Motor question for my proboat Blackjack 29

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  • jsturess
    Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 38

    #1

    Motor question for my proboat Blackjack 29

    Hi

    I have decided to upgrade the esc to Hobby Wing "SeaKing" 180 Amp V3.

    But dont know which motor to choose.

    I want a setup that could run on 4s and 6s and on 6s (dingoy 65C 6000mha) it should run as fast as possible :-)

    The motors i choose between is leopard-4074 and 4082.

    What is the main difference between these motors?

    And which kv should i choose?

    Regards Johan
  • mtbenjamin77
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 761

    #2
    Originally posted by jsturess
    Hi

    I have decided to upgrade the esc to Hobby Wing "SeaKing" 180 Amp V3.

    But dont know which motor to choose.

    I want a setup that could run on 4s and 6s and on 6s (dingoy 65C 6000mha) it should run as fast as possible :-)

    The motors i choose between is leopard-4074 and 4082.

    What is the main difference between these motors?

    And which kv should i choose?

    Regards Johan
    You should choose 4S OR 6S. Build your setup according to the batteries. I've had problems with running different voltage batteries on the same ESC, especially the T180. KV ratings 2200 for 4S and 1600 for 6S.

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    • stadiumyamaha
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Apr 2011
      • 1284

      #3
      Yep. No good 4s and 6s setup. Plus keep in mind that without seriously re-enforcing the hull it will break at speeds over 50 and in some cases less.
      white geico w/2200kv 3674 leopard 53.5mph 4s2p, geico w/ 1800kv outrunner 52mph on 4s2p, genesis w/2200kv castle 53.8 on 4s2p, impulse 31 w/2200kv castle, stock p1 and ul-1

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      • mtbenjamin77
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2010
        • 761

        #4
        Originally posted by stadiumyamaha
        Yep. No good 4s and 6s setup. Plus keep in mind that without seriously re-enforcing the hull it will break at speeds over 50 and in some cases less.
        Yes the proboat hulls are notorious for cracking at the bow seam. I have a blackjack 29 build thread that shoes how I reinforced the inside of the hull with CF. I'm also considering using expanding foam in the bow to make it more rigid. I'm researching the best way to control how the foam expands once I come up with an idea I'll post it on my thread

        http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...ild&highlight=

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        • jsturess
          Member
          • Jan 2013
          • 38

          #5
          Originally posted by mtbenjamin77
          You should choose 4S OR 6S. Build your setup according to the batteries. I've had problems with running different voltage batteries on the same ESC, especially the T180. KV ratings 2200 for 4S and 1600 for 6S.
          Ok, if I choose the 2200 leopard (4S) do I have to change the original esc?

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          • MAMBA2200
            I need a scooby snack
            • Jul 2012
            • 1202

            #6
            Ok, if I choose the 2200 leopard (4S) do I have to change the original esc?
            i would still change the esc
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            • jsturess
              Member
              • Jan 2013
              • 38

              #7
              Originally posted by MAMBA2200
              i would still change the esc
              Ok. what will i gain if choose the leopard 2200 and the 180 esc instead of the original setup?
              more speed?
              4074 or the 4082?

              Regards Johan

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              • MAMBA2200
                I need a scooby snack
                • Jul 2012
                • 1202

                #8
                More speed more efficient much easier programming just all around better setup

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                • mtbenjamin77
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 761

                  #9
                  4082 2200 SK180 60+ easy. The 4082 holds significantly more watts than the 4074

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                  • jsturess
                    Member
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 38

                    #10
                    Originally posted by mtbenjamin77
                    4082 2200 SK180 60+ easy. The 4082 holds significantly more watts than the 4074
                    60+ with 4S or 6S?

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                    • TheShaughnessy
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 1431

                      #11
                      4s 4082 2200 kv and right prop, 60 plus

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                      • jsturess
                        Member
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 38

                        #12
                        I ve got a m445 fixed by Andy Brown (balanced and sharpened)

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                        • lomdel
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 708

                          #13
                          The 4082 would be an extremely tight fit under the sub-hatch, I have a 4074 and it fits under the sub-hatch with mere millimeters to spare. The longer 4082 would probably also require a mount swop to support the back end. The puny stock motor mount would flex a lot under these big cans.

                          Also remember that low volts and high kv run a lot hotter than high volts and low kv. My own set-up is 6S with a 1400kv 4074 motor with a 180A ESC and it runs fast and cool... Not being prescriptive, just sharing my experience with this boat.

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                          • MAMBA2200
                            I need a scooby snack
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 1202

                            #14
                            The 4082 would be an extremely tight fit under the sub-hatch, I have a 4074 and it fits under the sub-hatch with mere millimeters to spare
                            I must agree with lomdel my 4074 just barley fit under the sub hatch but at 2150kv on 4s it was fast
                            Im Only Responsible For What I Say Not For What You Understand

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                            • jsturess
                              Member
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 38

                              #15
                              Ok, to late I just bought the 4082 :-( any one having this motor on the blackjack 29?

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