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  • jfrancisco892
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 546

    #16
    Originally posted by ray schrauwen
    The Cheetah is too heavy at 3+ lbs empty. Otherwise it would be a knockout!!
    What would you recommend for a p-limited offshore cat?

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    • ray schrauwen
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Apr 2007
      • 9471

      #17
      The Mean Machine is a good LSO boat too. Handles well but, some say the finish on the hulls are not so great.

      They still sell the empty nitro version in the clearence section for about $60... You can't beat that with a pool noodle!!
      Nortavlag Bulc

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      • ray schrauwen
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Apr 2007
        • 9471

        #18
        You could wait for the BlackJack 29 to come out. It is the latest, greatest version of a Geico.

        I run a Geico hull modified for LSO, lots of fun. The Mean Machine may be a tad better In some peoples opinion.
        Nortavlag Bulc

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        • jfrancisco892
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2012
          • 546

          #19
          ok. Build one or rtr?

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          • ray schrauwen
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Apr 2007
            • 9471

            #20
            The mean machine you have to build but, the BlackJack29 is rtr.
            Nortavlag Bulc

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            • jfrancisco892
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2012
              • 546

              #21
              Right. Would you recommend building a boat or buying a rtr

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              • Doby
                KANADA RULES!
                • Apr 2007
                • 7280

                #22
                Originally posted by jfrancisco892
                Right. Would you recommend building a boat or buying a rtr
                Only you can answer that.
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                • madmikepags
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 1359

                  #23
                  I'm still running my 7 year old titan 29 and just built 2 more for my daughters to run, not as flashy or new as the others but still a very capable hull, it's been outdated as a P-mono because of the power we have for P and the lift the hull has but they run great with p-spec power. Just my 2cents.
                  We call ourselves the "Q"

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                  • longballlumber
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 3132

                    #24
                    James,

                    I would suggest a mono as your next boat. This is just my opinion, but I feel you will find success (FUN) quicker by buying a RTR mono or building a mono. CATs are great, but they are difficult to set up to turn well. Also CATs at speed are more susceptible to blowing over than a mono.

                    Let’s face it, if you’re looking to run a boat in P-Limited Offshore the keys to success are a boat that can handle ANY water conditions, a good handling boat, and a consistent finisher. Notice that I didn’t put in SPEED. I did that for a reason, the fastest boat doesn’t always win. That is especially true for the P-Limited Offshore class.

                    Suggestions (all that have already been stated)

                    RTR – Aqua Revolt – I won’t say this is the “BEST” hull, but it sure is a great way at a great price to get into the offshore class. BEST VALUE between $$$$ and performance.

                    Build

                    Bling Rocket – I am pretty sure this boat is a little longer than the others making it a more stable/consistent boat compared to the others. But, it will be a little tougher to get the speed out of it.

                    Delta Force 29 – Happy medium between size, handling, and speed

                    Titan 29 – Another solid performer that is and has been proven over the years.

                    Later,
                    Mike

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                    • jfrancisco892
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 546

                      #25
                      Mike all i can say is "Amen". You are reading my mind, since i am at school though i am probably gonna go the rtr route revolt. It seems to be a good boat and i just dont have the time to build a boat. I agree with everything you said regarding cats vs. monos. Also finishing is no.1 in offshore no doubt about it. Thanks for the tips.

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                      • T.S.Davis
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 6221

                        #26
                        James, you've seen my P spec cat run. It doesn't get any faster than that. I've run them for two seasons now. How many times have you seen it floating on it's lid? More often than not. haha I did recently change props and slow down a tick. Makes for a better boat for sure. I do love cats. They can be a lot of fun and the straight line speed is awesome but I still think in race water, especially on our puddle, the monos have an advantage.
                        Noisy person

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                        • jfrancisco892
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 546

                          #27
                          Puddle lol. Your cat was quite fast just flipped all the time like you said.

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                          • steveo
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 1454

                            #28
                            bby racing has abs and fiber glass hulls that r good performers with p-spec power and the price is right

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                            • Fluid
                              Fast and Furious
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 8012

                              #29
                              Not all cats will flip over all the time. Setup is key as is tunnel design, but driving skill is probably the most important factor in staying upright. Once you know how your cat handles wind and waves you can learn to drive it on the edge with less time spent upside down. It's called a throttle, not an on-off switch. As for monos not flipping as much as cats do - Our typical P-Limited Offshore heats with a mix of hull types has just as many monos over as cats. Of course we run in rougher water than most do....




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                              • Darin Jordan
                                Fast Electric Addict!
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 8335

                                #30
                                After running the Miss Geico and the Mystic a LOT at the Nationals... I'm still not convinced that a Cat isn't just as competitive in Offshore as a Mono... I was certainly as fast, or faster, then most of the monos... It it was the tight turns that were the issue, and I think I've figured out why.

                                If you have the RPMs to run a smaller prop, then the MG/Mystic won't "trip" nearly as much, if at all. I was trying to run a 1500KV setup with a HUGE wheel, and the boat worked perfectly, about 80% of the time... It would be going along just fine, running in the lead, or battling at the front, and then, almost instantly, it would just grab and roll-over in the turns.

                                When I ran my shortened Mystic in N2-Hydro, I put on a much smaller prop and jammed the RPMs... The boat was not only a rocket, but flew through the turns without much of a hint of grabbing or rolling over. Finished 4 out of 4 heats, running hard.

                                Like Jay said, it's all going to come down to setup and driving.

                                OH, and I still wouldn't count out the Impulse 31 Mono... With the right setup, this boat handles GREAT.
                                Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
                                "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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