Please Help me recovering mine boat...alll ideas are welcomed...

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  • floatn turd
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2011
    • 267

    #31
    Drax21

    "I recently seen this. Similar to the buoy idea.
    http://www.water-buoy.com/index.php"


    That thing is bad-a$$, looks like a cool idea, attached to some high test line. I think there will be a lot less sunk boats out there. I am going to try one out.


    Here is a link to a demo video: http://www.waterbuoy.net/waterbuoy-videodemo.html

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    • Drax21
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Jul 2011
      • 1021

      #32
      Originally posted by floatn turd
      Drax21

      I recently seen this. Similar to the buoy idea.


      That thing is bad-a$$, looks like a cool idea, attached to some high test line. I think there will be a lot less sunk boats out there. I am going to try one out.
      At only around $15 they are soo cheap and could save you hundreds of $$$ worth of stuff.
      Everything that has a beginning, has an End

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      • floatn turd
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2011
        • 267

        #33
        hell ya you can, it would be stupid NOT to throw one in, It could not hurt.

        Thanks for that post. this is a great thread that can help out in a bad situation.

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        • ice_spy
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 122

          #34
          If the above advice fails, sounds like she might under the mud.

          Drax 21, thats a great idead, but what if say a hose came off, or a small amount of water got in, that device under a sealed hatch may just well Blow Up your boat !
          I like floatin turds idea better, Its not JD, but cheer's

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          • Drax21
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Jul 2011
            • 1021

            #35
            Originally posted by ice_spy
            If the above advice fails, sounds like she might under the mud.

            Drax 21, thats a great idead, but what if say a hose came off, or a small amount of water got in, that device under a sealed hatch may just well Blow Up your boat !
            I like floatin turds idea better, Its not JD, but cheer's
            The device needs to be completely submerged before it inflates. I would not put in under the hatch but on the outside.
            Everything that has a beginning, has an End

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            • Drax21
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Jul 2011
              • 1021

              #36
              Heres a vid I found
              Everything that has a beginning, has an End

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              • JIM MARCUM
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2011
                • 773

                #37
                This sounds good, if your boat weighs < 1 1/2#. A variation of FT's fishing line & bouy is a better way to go for my larger cats, with the bouy mounted on the transom. If the system fails, I'll keep my dive gear nearby. JIM
                JIM MARCUM: NAMBA 777; EX? SoCal FE Racers Club; D-19; Official 2012 NAMBA FE Nationals Rescue Diver; Purple Heart Viet Nam Vet; Professional SCUBA/HOOKA Diver, KELCO, 1973-1978; BBA 1978, Magna Cum Laude; MBA 1980 w/honors; Retired DOD GS1102-12 Contract Specialist

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                • gerardobrandao
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 164

                  #38
                  After all trying didn´t managed to find the boat...rakes.....drivers..nothing.......
                  I have tried all the methods that everyone recommend, but unfortunately didn´t manage to get it...2300 USD underwater....

                  Best Regards and thank you for your help....

                  :D

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                  • Drax21
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 1021

                    #39
                    Originally posted by gerardobrandao
                    After all trying didn´t managed to find the boat...rakes.....drivers..nothing.......
                    I have tried all the methods that everyone recommend, but unfortunately didn´t manage to get it...2300 USD underwater....

                    Best Regards and thank you for your help....

                    :D
                    That must be some lake. If the mud at the bottom was soft I could understand that maybe in got suck in and buried but in my mind I have to think that while you left the lake the boat might have re-surfaced and someone else has took it. They may have even dived down and got it. I have seen it done at my old lake. This is a whole different idea to it still being stuck there but you never know.
                    Does the lake ever get flushed?
                    Everything that has a beginning, has an End

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                    • gerardobrandao
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 164

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Drax21
                      That must be some lake. If the mud at the bottom was soft I could understand that maybe in got suck in and buried but in my mind I have to think that while you left the lake the boat might have re-surfaced and someone else has took it. They may have even dived down and got it. I have seen it done at my old lake. This is a whole different idea to it still being stuck there but you never know.
                      Does the lake ever get flushed?

                      Hello

                      The problem might be that when the the boat dived , since i thought it could be stuck in the bottom, i have give full throttle a lot of times, expecting it to release it....
                      But since the hatch broken, my assumption because it sunk(something have to broke in order to water come in), the boat become a submarine and might have traveled some meters under water , getting out of the sunk point...we are talking about 48000 more or less square yard...


                      Mine hope, has you said is that when summer comes here, juin, july , august, since it only gets water from rain, it goes to 40 inch deep water and i could put mine foot on it....Would only recover the fiberglass hull....and the schulze 32 200 of course


                      best regards and thank you everyone for your help..

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                      • Drax21
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 1021

                        #41
                        So I got my Waterbuoy today. Probably need 2 though to pull a boat back up right?
                        Now I'm wondering how I can keep it attached to the Hull(33"Mono).
                        Everything that has a beginning, has an End

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                        • Drax21
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 1021

                          #42
                          I just realized how many months ago the boat was lost. 2 months.. that's a long time. If you ever do get it back it would be quite a story
                          Everything that has a beginning, has an End

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                          • graill
                            Retired
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 389

                            #43
                            I guess i will be the one to step up and play devils advocate.

                            To bad about your rig being lost, on that note, hope you get it back if it really means life and death to you. Nothing is worth you risking your life over or the life of someone else trying to recover your rig, especially a toy boat, regardless of what we like to call them or think they deserve to be called. From what you have described the water is pretty much no visibility and has a muddy bottom. Is what you have lost worth the time and effort and possible loss of life (it has to be stated) ?

                            I do not know your financial situation so i cannot comment on whether this totally busts you for another rig or you are just to emotionally attached, in either case think about the resources you have expended thus far and what you are asking of yourself and others for this toy. My rigs are also toys, expensive, but if they sink i wont attempt to recover them unless i can wade over to them. We have to many news reports of folks attempting to recover boats and dying over it.

                            I am not saying dont try, i am simply stating another thought proccess to consider.

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                            • JIM MARCUM
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 773

                              #44
                              If your boat in stuck in the muddy bottom for this long the electronics are probably shot. But it would save you some money to retrieve it & re-use the hardware. I think you tried using a SCUBA diver to find it with no luck. If you used my weight & 100' line method starting at the weight & ever increasing circles the diver should have found it, IF the boat is where you thought it is within 100'.

                              As I said before, Ihave been a certified SCUBA diver for 52 years - five years as a professional. Many dives made working at 65' and 1-2' visability or less.

                              Grail makes valid points about safety. Assuming the water is less that 20' deep, here is what I would do:
                              1. Get an experienced diver, a couple of other friends, and a boat.
                              2. Attach two suitable lines to a 10# weight (an anchor or two 5# dive weights). One line - the marker - only needs to be 5-10' longer than the depth of the lake. Polyprop anchor or ski line is good. The other (the divers line) should smaller - 1/8" Nylon cord or 30# fishing test, etc. - and be about 100' long - giving you a 200' circle.
                              3. Attach a large bouy to the short line, and optionaly, attach the end of the long line to the weight with a couple of fishing swivels (so the divers line dosen't get wrapped up withe the marker line).
                              4. Put the weight, lines, bouys in boat with a buddy.
                              5. From shore, you direct the boat to where you think your FE is & have boat buddy drop the weight on that spot.
                              6. Diver buddy snorkles out to the large bouy and follows the line to the bottom. Diver should clip a nylon dive bag or laundry bag to his weight belt to hold boat/pieces when he finds them.
                              7. Diver locates small line on weight, pays out arms length of line and starts swimming in ever increasing circles to locate your FE boat. If visability is >2' diver should inflate their BC vest and float above the bottom & not stir up the mud, and locate by sight. If <1', use cotton gardening gloves to protect hands from any broken bottles etc. and feel his way around.
                              8. As the diver moves toward the end of his line, he may have trouble telling if he has completed a full circle. Two ways to know: a. wear a compass and start the circle at any heading, i.e. North. As he circles and returns to the "North" again, he lets out the line. Repeat till line end is reached. b. Attach a third polyprop line 100' long to the weight/anchor, with a 5# weight on the far end. Diver then swims away with the 5# weight in hand until line is taught and drop the weight. That will give the diver a referance point for each circle as he passes over the third line.

                              If the diver dosen't find your boat at first, direct the boat guy to move the anchor/weight about 100' from the first spot and repeat - or make the diver's line 200' long. If the lake is less than 33' deep the diver has no bottom time limits for decompression.

                              It's not as hard as it sounds. I've attached some drawings to clarify my method. Good luck. JIM
                              JIM MARCUM: NAMBA 777; EX? SoCal FE Racers Club; D-19; Official 2012 NAMBA FE Nationals Rescue Diver; Purple Heart Viet Nam Vet; Professional SCUBA/HOOKA Diver, KELCO, 1973-1978; BBA 1978, Magna Cum Laude; MBA 1980 w/honors; Retired DOD GS1102-12 Contract Specialist

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                              • gerardobrandao
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 164

                                #45
                                ...After 8 months ...the boat appeared.......!!!?!?!??!!?!!!!!




                                I will see what i can do for it....



                                Best Regards, and thank for all the help!
                                Last edited by gerardobrandao; 07-16-2012, 12:58 PM. Reason: bad link

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