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  • Doug Smock
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    • Apr 2007
    • 5272

    #91
    Originally posted by oscarel
    Contact John at Revo if you don't think the packs are holding up, the HV packs do have a warranty .
    They should serve me well in my 1/8 scale. I posted because I was asked, I'm not worried. I have spent more money on less. LOL
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    • keithbradley
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      • Jul 2010
      • 3663

      #92
      Originally posted by Doug Smock
      They should serve me well in my 1/8 scale. I posted because I was asked, I'm not worried. I have spent more money on less. LOL
      I wonder how your charger compares to others in regards to testing resistance. Something tells me that your charger is using a different method than any of mine to determine IR.
      You interested in sending me one to stick on my charger and test, and then I'll send it back? Or, I'll send you one of mine to stick on your charger and see what it says, and you can send it back. I'll pay shipping.

      Something is off here. It would be easy to understand if you had ONE CELL that read that way, but you're getting consistent readings from multiple lipos right?
      I have hundreds of cells from Revolectrix, and they are (and started) around 2mO or less. I've owned a number of Dinogy lipos and didn't have readings as high as yours either. I would assume that it's just a matter of calibration, but since you're getting sub 2mO readings from your Hyperion, it can't be that.


      "Just in case"... I will be clear that I believe you're getting the readings you say you're getting, I'd just like to know why. My best guess is it has something to do with how your charger "reads" IR vs. the two chargers I have here. I don't know why it would favor one battery brand so much more than the others but I suppose it could.
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      • jcald2000
        Senior Member
        • May 2008
        • 774

        #93
        What chargers are both of you using? 4 or 5 years ago there was a major difference between the Powerlab and I charger.

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        • Doug Smock
          Moderator
          • Apr 2007
          • 5272

          #94
          While I appreciate the offer Keith, I really do. I am confident I have a very good handle on my equipment and racing program. Otherwise I wouldn't have posted.

          I have made my living troubleshooting commercial equipment of all types for 30 years. There are few mysteries.

          I'm not the first guy to be less than thrilled with the LNEs and imagine I'm not the first nor last to be less than thrilled with the Revos.
          Hyperion has had their issues as well so I'm told. That's not been my experience. Doesn't mean they are the best either. That's why I continue to look, it is what it is.

          When 5000 45c packs take you places you haven't been able to match with higher capacity and or C rated cells the problem is not with the chargers IR readings, and the temp gun confirms that.

          When you have 12000 mah 65C in a heat racer and it falls on it's face after the third lap something is wrong with the power supply. Go back to 10,000mah 45C all else being equal and run a 23 sec. 1/3rd and a 18 sec.1/4 two lap you don't have to be a genius to figure that out. A detective would call that a clue.

          I'm not a sponsored racer, not a salesman, I've got no axes to grind. I'm just a guy that has been around the course a time or two and is looking for, and willing to pay for the best battery available. I'm glad you're convinced you've found them.

          I'll keep rolling the dice.
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          • jim82
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            • Jan 2013
            • 1358

            #95
            I think Revolectrix has a bright future that is going to blow minds

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            • Doug Smock
              Moderator
              • Apr 2007
              • 5272

              #96
              Originally posted by jim82
              I think Revolectrix has a bright future that is going to blow minds
              That was enlightening. Is this based on something, or you just have a feeling?

              A good start would be to have the labels on the cells match the label on the pack.

              Ya know, Max Amps has been making that claim for years.

              Did you know they have 8000mah "True 150c" batteries with a lifetime warranty?

              Seriously, I do hope you're right.

              Man, two more weeks in the immobilizer. Pretty good chance I'm gonna get banned.


              It's been fun fellas.......................
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              • keithbradley
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                • Jul 2010
                • 3663

                #97
                Originally posted by Doug Smock
                While I appreciate the offer Keith, I really do. I am confident I have a very good handle on my equipment and racing program. Otherwise I wouldn't have posted.

                I have made my living troubleshooting commercial equipment of all types for 30 years. There are few mysteries.

                I'm not the first guy to be less than thrilled with the LNEs and imagine I'm not the first nor last to be less than thrilled with the Revos.
                Hyperion has had their issues as well so I'm told. That's not been my experience. Doesn't mean they are the best either. That's why I continue to look, it is what it is.

                When 5000 45c packs take you places you haven't been able to match with higher capacity and or C rated cells the problem is not with the chargers IR readings, and the temp gun confirms that.

                When you have 12000 mah 65C in a heat racer and it falls on it's face after the third lap something is wrong with the power supply. Go back to 10,000mah 45C all else being equal and run a 23 sec. 1/3rd and a 18 sec.1/4 two lap you don't have to be a genius to figure that out. A detective would call that a clue.

                I'm not a sponsored racer, not a salesman, I've got no axes to grind. I'm just a guy that has been around the course a time or two and is looking for, and willing to pay for the best battery available. I'm glad you're convinced you've found them.

                I'll keep rolling the dice.
                Hmm...
                Well, I have taken readings from icharger and powerlab chargers, results are the same. Hundreds of Revo 70C cells, none are even 3mO, never mind the 7mO you're getting from your equipment. Last year I tested Dinogy and Hyperion 45C and found an average of 2.6mO with the Hyperion cells and 1.8mO with Dinogy cells. I'll be the first to admit that the Dinogys degraded quickly, but my results still don't reflect what yours measured new.

                At our last records event in Flint, I did 6+ laps around the 1/3 mile course with a GPS in the boat that read 101mph when I returned, and there were plenty of people there that saw me do it...I had a total of 8000mah in the boat. The lipos came in at 3.7v/cell and were definitely warmer than they get during shorter runs but there was no "falling on it's face" by any means.

                I'm surprised you're not the least bit curious to find out why our results are so different. You're plugging in the red wire to the red wire, and the black to the black, right?

                PS: I'm not convinced that I've found the best batteries...these are just the best batteries I have found. There is a difference.
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                • Doug Smock
                  Moderator
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 5272

                  #98
                  Originally posted by keithbradley

                  I'm surprised you're not the least bit curious to find out why our results are so different.
                  I don't know how else to say it. Hmmm..................
                  I'm not racing IR #s Keith, honestly don't care why our #s don't jive. Not interested in your numbers, they don't have anything to do with my program.
                  The real testing happens at the pond, with my boats, & my equipment.
                  Twin cats and single monos, apples and oranges.

                  Or perhaps it's geographical.
                  The Cats with Dinogys that are quick to degrade are clearly faster on the west coast than anything that we've seen on this side of the states.

                  Driving on now Keith. I've got better things to do with my time today than play verbal gymnastics with you.

                  Have a nice day............
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                  • keithbradley
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                    • Jul 2010
                    • 3663

                    #99
                    Originally posted by Doug Smock
                    How's the IR looking on your Revos fellas? Mine started life at 4m and continued to rise. Last charge cycle the measured 7m.
                    Originally posted by Doug Smock
                    I'm not racing IR #s Keith, honestly don't care why our #s don't jive.
                    I'm not sure what "verbal gymnastics" are, but I guess this must be the dismount?

                    Take it easy Doug. I'm trying to be friendly...no need for the defensive attitude. I apologize if I unknowingly offended you, it wasn't my intention. You asked for input in regards to the IR readings others are getting, and you expressed concern about the numbers you're posting. My posts were in made in the spirit of helping.

                    A number of people have tested Hyperion/Dinogy/Revolectrix lipos as well as many others, and I can't find any results that reflect your experience. If I were in your position I would wonder why everyone else got a different product than I did. But, of course I'm not and you've stated your position...that's fine--> moving on.
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                    • Doug Smock
                      Moderator
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 5272

                      #100
                      No defensive attitude Keith. And I don't respect you enough to be offended by you. It's all good.

                      Originally posted by Doug Smock
                      I don't know how else to say it.
                      The real testing happens at the pond, with my boats, & my equipment.
                      Have a great weekend--> moving on.
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                      • Gary
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 1105

                        #101
                        Originally posted by Gary
                        My 6s packs will be here by Friday and Sunday I will test. I know exactly what the boat does so this will be interesting to find out if they perform like they have been talked about. Will let you guys know Sunday night hopefully.
                        Ok this is what I found.I am sure I will get beat up for this but here goes. On average about 1,800 --2,000 rpm more than my Thunder Powers...46,500rpm and is more than I have ever seen. Voltage drop was one volt less and ripple about 1.8 max for what ever thats worth. Batteries warmed to 90* as I always do with lake about perfect as always. Boat picked up 6 mph over its average and tested many times.
                        At half the cost of Thunders I am sold on them for my boat. Only have old vid for some viewing fun and with the guy fishing it killed my day after one pass!
                        Last edited by Gary; 10-26-2014, 07:54 PM.
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                        • kfxguy
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Oct 2013
                          • 8746

                          #102
                          Originally posted by Gary
                          Ok this is what I found. On average about 1,800 --2,000 rpm more than my Thunder Powers...46,500rpm and is more than I have ever seen. Voltage drop was one volt less and ripple about 1.8 max for what ever thats worth. Batteries warmed to 90* as I always do with lake about perfect as always. Boat picked up 6 mph over its average and tested many times.
                          At half the cost of Thunders I am sold on them for my boat. Only have old vid for some viewing fun and the guy fishing killed my day after one pass!
                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkKN...ature=youtu.be
                          Yep. I picked up 6 mph too. I know someone who picked up 8 but he wasn't running a high dollar battery. For the money, you CANNOT beat these. Period.
                          32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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                          • TheShaughnessy
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 1431

                            #103
                            I just got some used ones from kieth. I was a little concerned at first cause a cell was low and they didnt want to charge all the way up to 4.2 I went ahead and ran them. Can't say any thing about speed as I testing props. What I will say is sag was less then any of my other packs. The ripple was much less too, not sure what that means but that's what It showed

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                            • jim82
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 1358

                              #104
                              What charger are you using?

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                              • grsboats
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2012
                                • 975

                                #105
                                Good info guys...I can't say too much from now as running riggers there are different factors that lead to improved speed but there is no doubt that the Revo's are doing their job for some of us.Thanks Gill
                                GO FAST AND TURN RIGHT !
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