Phil Thomas Stealth 45 Q Sport Build

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  • Mike W
    Senior Member
    • May 2018
    • 348

    #1

    Phil Thomas Stealth 45 Q Sport Build

    Hi All,

    A search for build threads on this hydro didn't yield much so now that mine is complete I'll post it to share ideas with any future builders. Jim V and Jim S both run these at HOTMBC and although I started as a cat guy I have strayed into monos and now hydros for '22. I have a Pete's first BP LSH build and another full P BP in the works along with a classic N2 shovelnose.

    For starters I ordered the hull less hatch cover because I like a very minimal low-profile appearance. A thin ABS sheet was taped on top to duplicate the hatch curvature. Frecote is used for a release agent. Please excuse the bench mess. I am working on multiple projects between epoxy cure times, and on a scrap of plywood until the new hobby bench is set up.
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    Otto RC Marine
  • Mike W
    Senior Member
    • May 2018
    • 348

    #2
    Initial layup is 6oz. glass cloth, the shaped blue foam, and another layer of 6oz. glass.
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    Otto RC Marine

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    • Mike W
      Senior Member
      • May 2018
      • 348

      #3
      After removal and trimming to fit the foam was excavated with great difficulty and a layer of 3k CF applied inside for appearance and rigidity. Flotation block was added later.
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      • Mike W
        Senior Member
        • May 2018
        • 348

        #4
        The motor mount was dropped through the inner layer and foam to sit flush on the outer hull skin along with the end of the can and jacket. This lowered CG, allowed less shaft curvature, and yielded a stronger bond and hull.

        Aluminum water tubes were glued into the hull for less silicone tubing. Water jacket has had it's threaded holes filled with epoxy and alu tubing bonded in from the side for most direct flow possible and a full 4mmID after the rudder nipple.

        Batts are 4S4000 Rhinos. 5000s would have fit, but 4000s are cheaper, lighter, and fit better. I bought them at a great price a while back and they reviewed well in RCG testing. I skimp a little on my usual CNHL G+ pack preference with 2P because the current demands are shared by 2 packs. Less $$ and weight.
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        Otto RC Marine

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        • Mike W
          Senior Member
          • May 2018
          • 348

          #5
          When I mocked up all components I found I could not not quite achieve the full CG range provided on the build instructions with the lighter 4000 packs in the factory pockets slightly enlarged in height. The hull was a little tail-heavy. Therefore I opted to side-mount the servo more forward.

          RX mounted as near as possible to the antenna for maximum antenna height and range and mid-height in the top for greatest chance of staying dry should water intrude.
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          • Mike W
            Senior Member
            • May 2018
            • 348

            #6
            ESC is a converted Castle XLX. OSE 8mm connectors are my favorites. I use these as bullets as well less the housings.
            Water dumps immediately from flush hull exits. Bullets will get another layer of shrink tubing and all water connections will be reinforced like the ESC inlet nipple later.
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            • Mike W
              Senior Member
              • May 2018
              • 348

              #7
              The 5 leading edges were capped with 1/2 sections of the appropriate-sized CF tube for improved strength, appearance, and aero with minimal weight gain.

              The narrow-chord wing received a formed CF up-elevator for increased downforce up front.

              These will all be faired-in with epoxy filler. The up-angle looks more severe than it is and it smoothed nicely later when it was properly tapered at the trailing edge.
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              Last edited by Mike W; 01-28-2022, 06:05 PM.
              Otto RC Marine

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              • Mike W
                Senior Member
                • May 2018
                • 348

                #8
                Hull airspace was filled with cut foam both within the hull and within the tub. Hopefully if it ever does swamp it will float level and not nose-up.
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                • Mike W
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2018
                  • 348

                  #9
                  Filler work topside to smooth hull for primer. It looks like a lot but is still very thin even at the thickest points. This allowed some surfacing effect for a straighter finish and buried most of the plentiful pinholes always present in an epoxy-glass hull.
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                  Otto RC Marine

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                  • Mike W
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2018
                    • 348

                    #10
                    Filler work on the underside with ride surfaces trued and sharpened.
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                    • Mike W
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2018
                      • 348

                      #11
                      2K primer and spot putty over the pinholes that inevitable sneak by with epoxy-glass hulls. A few did still sneak by my old eyes. Paint will follow. Raceboat. A showboat would have needed one last coat of primer.
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                      Otto RC Marine

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                      • Mike W
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2018
                        • 348

                        #12
                        Added CF gussets for 3mm SS thread inserts and hatch cover screws.
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                        Otto RC Marine

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                        • Mike W
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2018
                          • 348

                          #13
                          Outboard rudder bracket holes were difficult to access and not flat enough for a nut on the inside so I added threaded inserts here also.
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                          Otto RC Marine

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                          • Mike W
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2018
                            • 348

                            #14
                            With the exception of a few more Orange Crush and Otto RC Marine decals on order with Callie the Stealth 45 is complete and ready for trial runs at the next HOTMBC meet.

                            Hardware is straightforward and per Phil's instructions with the exception of using the longer mono rudder stand-off since the shorter hydro version rudder was unavailable when I ordered. May as well test it since I lean toward greater rudder setbacks than most.

                            Motor is TP4060 1750 KV and I will run a X646 prop. I'm a high-RPM small-prop guy. Here's how my T Sniper runs at 350 amps 1000KV with a detongued X455:



                            So my experience says a 55mm is way to much for this little hydro. We shall see! Test reports and vids after the meet!
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                            Otto RC Marine

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                            • Moonie
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2014
                              • 325

                              #15
                              Nice!!
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