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  • rearwheelin
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Oct 2008
    • 1941

    #76
    I can make a mount for any of them , if you have coin I have time
    "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction."
    --Albert Einstein

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    • Make-a-Wake
      FE Rules!
      • Nov 2009
      • 5557

      #77
      HRC is who i have been racking my brain to think of, thanks. I got a couple mounts from him in the past, nice stuff!
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      • TheShaddix
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2013
        • 759

        #78
        How many layers did you use to make your hatch feel strong like that? And do you trim the edges before it's fully cured or after? And how do you make cf stick to fiberglass? I find that it still doesn't bond as well as it does to carbon fiber. If you don't mind, could you please share your inlay process for the hatch step by step? Your cf work looks great!

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        • flraptor07
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Aug 2013
          • 2451

          #79
          Originally posted by Make-a-Wake
          HRC is who i have been racking my brain to think of, thanks. I got a couple mounts from him in the past, nice stuff!
          Yes he really does some nice stuff and he will do custom work if he's not busy doing orders for vendors. It's easy for me to get stuff from him, he's in our club and only lives about 7 or 8 miles from me.

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          • Savage Skidoo
            Senior Member
            • May 2011
            • 332

            #80
            Looking good , i love my 35" DFP , west systems is the only way to go .I have the 4092-1480kv with the T180 . IMGA0522.jpgIMGA0225.jpgIMGA0267.jpg
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            • rickwess
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2013
              • 777

              #81
              Originally posted by flraptor07
              Yes he really does some nice stuff and he will do custom work if he's not busy doing orders for vendors. It's easy for me to get stuff from him, he's in our club and only lives about 7 or 8 miles from me.
              I have 4 mounts from Dave now. Each was tweaked or completely custom based on what I was looking for. Two of my coolers were also first off's as he hadn't spec'd them yet for some TP motors. Great guy to deal with and his work is top notch.

              I might sound like Dave's Marketing department, but I really believe we need to sustain the people who perform this type of Service for us RC'ers with a viable business.

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              • Luck as a Constant
                Make Total Destroy
                • Mar 2014
                • 1952

                #82
                Originally posted by rearwheelin
                I can make a mount for any of them , if you have coin I have time
                Got any pics of stuff you've done?


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                • Luck as a Constant
                  Make Total Destroy
                  • Mar 2014
                  • 1952

                  #83
                  Originally posted by TheShaddix
                  How many layers did you use to make your hatch feel strong like that? And do you trim the edges before it's fully cured or after? And how do you make cf stick to fiberglass? I find that it still doesn't bond as well as it does to carbon fiber. If you don't mind, could you please share your inlay process for the hatch step by step? Your cf work looks great!
                  Read this.

                  The biggest thing is using the west system.
                  I did a comparison of it with zpoxy on two pieces. I just costed some cf cloth in each and let it dry.
                  The zpoxy actually broke fairly easily. I could actually pull the fabric apart like sheets of paper... Way to brittle. the west system you cannot even barely bend let alone break or delaminate it.
                  I would never use anything else at this point.


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                  • Luck as a Constant
                    Make Total Destroy
                    • Mar 2014
                    • 1952

                    #84
                    Originally posted by Savage Skidoo
                    Looking good , i love my 35" DFP , west systems is the only way to go .I have the 4092-1480kv with the T180 . [ATTACH=CONFIG]128401[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]128402[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]128403[/ATTACH]
                    Nice one!
                    I have all the same hardware except I bought the dual speed master rudder.
                    Was wondering how space would be cause I am still waiting on hardware, but looks like I'll be ok


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                    • TheShaddix
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 759

                      #85
                      Thanks, will definitely give the west system another try! I used it before but found the price a bit too high for the 207 hardener. Where do you get yours?

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                      • Luck as a Constant
                        Make Total Destroy
                        • Mar 2014
                        • 1952

                        #86
                        I bought it locally at west marine.
                        Yes it is very expensive I agree. 41 for the 207, almost 50 for the 105
                        Then another 18 for pump system.
                        I'm sure online it can be had for much cheaper but whatever..
                        I'm so happy with its performance the cost doesn't bother me anymore


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                        • TheShaddix
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 759

                          #87
                          Actually online it's more expensive. The shipping is what kills it. I've been using this resin from composite envisions which I found really good! I got a gallon for about $80 which is a steal. Compared to west system it's nearly identical in its properties. It's very thin once you mix it so it wets the fabric out quickly, especially if warmed up, and i use the fast hardener (which is still slow...) which gives more rigidity vs slow ones, that's what I was told and so far I've noticed the difference. I like that it's rock solid but still has enough flex that it doesn't just crack if bent excessively. I agree, the cheap zpoxy is very brittle and should be avoided at all cost for lamination or any serious cf work. That stuff is good for clear coating and cosmetic work where strength isn't a priority. A good way to see the quality of resin is when you peel it off of a squeegie once done laminating. The cheap stuff just cracks. Good resin is the one that has a bit of flex but feels as solid as metal when fully cured. I'm pretty happy with mine, not sure why I want to try west system again, maybe i just like the name of it! I find that most marine grade resins of this level are essentially the same when used properly.

                          Also, i don't trust those pumps. I use a scale to measure mine. I'm paranoid about wrong ratios, like if there is some resin already inside of the pump and then you pump more through, it just seems too easy to mess it up. With a scale you get 100% each time.

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                          • rickwess
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2013
                            • 777

                            #88
                            Originally posted by TheShaddix
                            Also, i don't trust those pumps. I use a scale to measure mine. I'm paranoid about wrong ratios, like if there is some resin already inside of the pump and then you pump more through, it just seems too easy to mess it up. With a scale you get 100% each time.
                            +1
                            Get a 100g scale. It'll pay for itself in wasted epoxy. You can also easily seal the tin back up and avoid it thickening. Few of us, if any, use enough epoxy for it to make sense to use the pumps.

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                            • Luck as a Constant
                              Make Total Destroy
                              • Mar 2014
                              • 1952

                              #89
                              DF pirate 35 build

                              I'm sure what you have is good stuff.
                              As far as getting it to stick , I sanded the cowl with 80 grit automotive sandpaper. Really rough it up good.
                              I find that sandpaper for wood is just terrible for fiberglass, the automotive stuff will cut it up nice for a solid bond


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                              • Luck as a Constant
                                Make Total Destroy
                                • Mar 2014
                                • 1952

                                #90
                                As for the west system pump, as long as you pay attention to the directions that come with them on setting them up for the product and size can you have, there no mess no question.


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