Capacitor banks, use? Or not worth it?

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  • OshkoshMono
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 207

    #16
    Originally posted by norbique
    Your install looks fine OshkoshMono. Wires between the motor and ESC doesn't matter. If the motor runs in the opposite direction you want, then simply switch any 2 wires out of the 3.
    Bill, the Novak capacitors are huge because they're 5000uF each, BUT they're only good up to 10 Volts. So be careful not to over volt them. They usually tolerate some over-voltage but it's not wise to play with them. They may swell or vent releasing the electrolyte, which is stinky acidic stuff.
    Great, thanks! I was nervous since I rarely solder.

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    • Gerwin Brommer
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2008
      • 918

      #17
      btw : make sure you insulate the capbank/esc from the carbon inlay in your hull.
      Carbon is an conductor !

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      • OshkoshMono
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2010
        • 207

        #18
        Originally posted by Gerwin Brommer
        btw : make sure you insulate the capbank/esc from the carbon inlay in your hull.
        Carbon is an conductor !
        Good to know! Will do. I am planning on having the ESC mounted about an inch off the bottom, plus coating over the connections with epoxy of some kind.

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        • Eric Bourlet
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2010
          • 104

          #19
          Originally posted by norbique
          Sure I can, they're prototypes so to say, no nice green PCB or silkscreen or whatever, but they do their job. Let me find a photo.

          Here's the board without the big electrolytic capacitors installed. The solder blobs are vias. I have the Low ESR caps ordered, but haven't received them yet.
          A set of schottky diodes and ceramic capacitors go on the other side of the PCB for the transients and for high frequency filtering.
          How about a schematic of the circuit including the shottkys and ceramics?
          Eric Bourlet
          Team Airtronics
          Team M&D Designs

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          • Ctonez
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2007
            • 404

            #20
            Originally posted by Eric Bourlet
            How about a schematic of the circuit including the shottkys and ceramics?

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            • norbique
              Senior Member
              • May 2009
              • 356

              #21
              Here are two pics of one of the ESCs with the cap bank installed.
              I don't have a schematic, it's in my head since it's very simple.
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              • Eric Bourlet
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2010
                • 104

                #22
                Originally posted by norbique
                Here are two pics of one of the ESCs with the cap bank installed.
                I don't have a schematic, it's in my head since it's very simple.
                So where in the circuit do you mount the diodes and the ceramics?
                Eric Bourlet
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                • norbique
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2009
                  • 356

                  #23
                  They go between the two poles on the other side of the PCB. You can see them on the second photo.
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                  • Brushless55
                    Creator
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 9488

                    #24
                    Originally posted by norbique
                    Here are two pics of one of the ESCs with the cap bank installed.
                    I don't have a schematic, it's in my head since it's very simple.
                    that looks nice a clean
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                    • Eric Bourlet
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 104

                      #25
                      Originally posted by norbique
                      They go between the two poles on the other side of the PCB. You can see them on the second photo.


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                      Eric Bourlet
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                      • norbique
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2009
                        • 356

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Eric Bourlet
                        Like this?
                        Yes.
                        Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.
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                        • bwells
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 842

                          #27
                          When using two capacitors, are they both wired in parallel to the bat leads or do you series them and then parallel them to the bat leads? Also, are they needed on small 4s setups or are the extra caps mainly for larger cell count? If I remember correctly, caps store and release real quick but can't understand why this is needed. Thanks
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                          • CornelP
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2009
                            • 745

                            #28
                            Capacitors are wired in parallel to the bat leads.
                            All sizes of ESC can benefit from this. The main idea is that a capacitor can deliver the juice much faster than a battery, creating sort of a buffer to take all short bursts. This way you will go easier on the battery and the FETs will stay cooler.
                            For small voltage and current ESC, even replacing the existing caps with a size bigger will be ok. I change all caps from the cheap ESCs, as they are way too small.

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                            • m4a1usr
                              Fast Electric Addict
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 2038

                              #29
                              When capacitors are wired in parallel, the circuit farad rating is the sum of all of them. Just the opposite of resistors. They are summed in series.


                              John
                              Change is the one Constant

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                              • Jeff Wohlt
                                Fast Electric Addict!
                                • Jan 2008
                                • 2716

                                #30
                                So if I want to add a couple inline can I get them at radioshack? If adding just 1 or two do you use the same ratings?
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