Aeromarine Conquest FE Open Cat 10S Build

[Rumdog]

Yep, he's special alright.

[Xfactor]

anyway mr Mechanix if you can get back to me id appreciate it im not going back to this with this kid.Im talking tech I dont know what there talking about.The only thing destructive is an inability to accept others opinions or get mad when they dont accept yours.Using student status to discredit me wont work think about it the knowledge is fresh in my head some have never even been exposed to the knowledge plus the whole point of ME telling people I was in school was so I could get some help from full fledged ee's something this kid is not but Im mecp certified, 12 volt certified, and 20 plus years of experience . You got silly people that just run around trying to discredit me cause to me it was obvious that they were no experts and I didnt take their advice on a motor. Thats all it is .Ignore me? ha I dont pm these guys they cant help me get anything accomplished I only pm gurus.Lastly hows someone gonna talk about destroying threads when they make a point to comment on my every comment. The boy is more responsible than I am cause he has to feed his ego and always be rite then when you go tech on him its " since you know so much why you ask?" like a kid rightfully.They ran A guy clean off this forum over a kb motor.They think this is there forum i dont know why.Ask yourself I asked the man who owns this boat a question why are yall talking? Pm me 99z286spd please so your thread can live in peace lol.Check the technique they talk junk to me on my own threads lol when if im so dumb why are you reading them in the first place? Puzzling.

[RaceMechaniX]

Anyway Mr mechanix I know some of the shulze escs have a closed loop option. Does yours? If so does the manual give you an idea of what the motor needs in terms of sensors for implementing the closed loop function on the esc? Thank you MR. Mechanix.Ill just pm you any further questions cause you got people on here who dont even know the basics, I mean they need help on motor choice but they think theyre ready to chime in on discussion about closed loop esc function. They will just get in the way of a technical discussion.Thanks X

By closed loop do you mean the speed sensor option? Yes my esc does have this option, but its really designed for use with gliders and other planes with folding props. Its more a position sensor then speed sensor. From reading, the position option uses a hall sensor and a magnet in the spinner. When you let off the throttle in an aerobatic mode the esc looks for the correct position and stops the rotor so that a folding props tucks in the correct position.

The esc's already have RPM measurement through the back EMF and timing advance calculation.

Does this answer your question?

Tyler

[Xfactor]

No sir closed loop the abilty to have a locked rotor. Do you know what im saying?Let me re ask you this way. Will a schulze run a sensored motor?I undersatnd motor speed and how to impliment I was curious if the esc could run a sensored motor and if this was done via hall sensors. Did they include any info in the manual on sensored motors/ Can you give me a link if so?Sorry guys i guess he thinks its a valid question.Thank you very much sir.


hate on haters you are the village people!lol
X

[RaceMechaniX]

Schulze can run sensored or sensorless motors, but they do not use the hall cables like a novak brushless motor/esc combo does. If you want to run a sensored motor with a Schulze you can just leave the hall wires disconnected. The ESC uses back EMF to calculate position and adjust advance automatically. It's mentioned on Page 1 and page 4 in the manual for the l, XL and XXL controllers.

[Xfactor]

Im confused cause that in itself is no big deal all sensorless escs do that. I saw something that said closed loop. Thats not closed loop. So Im lost with that.

[RaceMechaniX]

I just searched for "closed loop" in the PDF and didn't find anything. Where did you see closed loop mentioned?

[Xfactor]

TYLER,
I mean what you described just means you can run a sensored motor sensorless on the schultz esc. I dont doubt you I just though I saw that somewhere. If they dont have that feature what do these expensive esc's offer over say a swordfish to justify all the cost I mean they fail too?

[Xfactor]

It seems if the esc will run with a hall sensored setup then u can impliment the closed loop through firmware. I just cant believe a hybrid car would have a sensorless setup (much less low speed driveability) the only reason for sensorless is cheper to build less to fail but its inferior to a closed loop design

[Xfactor]

Hit me up later. $$$$$WEET build.If you get a new motor I want dibbs.

[RaceMechaniX]

You are paying for quality, actual current ratings not inflated ones and a better design.

How often do you hear of the Chinese made esc's just crapping out on the same set-up used day after day? Pretty often. If you have ever taken the shrink off one of these you can see the difference. Cold solder points, poorly placed components, poor cooling and the list goes on.

I have nothing against the Chinese made esc's, but you get what you pay for. I do have a gripe when I pay for a $450 esc made in China and it goes poof on the bench with no load and no user error. This happens must less frequently with Schulze's. The guys who do blow up Schulze's are usually pushing the limits and expect such risks. Otherwise, most of us who run them are pretty happy and you don't hear anything becuase the just keep running.

It's like buying a Snap-On versus a bargin bin special. The Snap-on has a high investment cost, but you'll keep it for a long time and it will hold up as such. The bargin bin special is a throw away item.

The Castle's, Turnigy's, Swordfishes, etc are all excellent values but at some point you'll be tired of cooking them and replacing them and you'll want the Cadillac.

[Xfactor]

THE BENZ you mean. aint nothing more ragedy than an old cadillac lol. I got you on the quality though.

[Diegoboy]

I love this feature!

Today, 07:52 AM

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[Xfactor]

Thank you very much sir I appreciate that.

[Xfactor]

Tyler pm me on the mongoose I didnt really get to see what you got.