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  • domwilson
    Moderator
    • Apr 2007
    • 4408

    #16
    Originally posted by Steven Vaccaro
    Perception is not and should not have been an issue for the Professor.
    Oh really? If it wasn't an issue, we wouldn't be having this discussion right now. I wasn't there. I do not know what really happened. The professor perceived racism, whether there was or not. There are two sides to this story. Maybe the police officer's actions weren't racially motivated. But something did occur that made the professor think they were. We just don't know.
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    • Bill-SOCAL
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Nov 2007
      • 1404

      #17
      Originally posted by Steven Vaccaro
      It would have helped Gates, instead of now being another Cambridge pompous Jackass.
      So apparently even you fall prey to the use of stereotypes. This is not nearly as cut and dried as those of us who were not involved seem to want to think it is. Is it not possible that the cop felt the same way you did? Irrespective of color? Just that the guy was a pompous ass and that perhaps that effected his reactions??
      Don't get me started

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      • ghostofpf1
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2008
        • 392

        #18
        I'm confused....some of you are saying that the professor acted out of line...was there video or something to back this up or are you simply parroting what you've been told to??
        thanks
        Steve

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        • Steven Vaccaro
          Administrator
          • Apr 2007
          • 8720

          #19
          Dom I agree that in the back of the Officers mind, he "could have" been a racist. But again, in the end if the Professor gave the id when asked, we wouldn't be talking about this.

          Bill I said "another", not "all". There is a difference.
          Steven Vaccaro

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          • domwilson
            Moderator
            • Apr 2007
            • 4408

            #20
            Sometimes we see things that aren't there. Other times we don't see things that are there. It's all relevant to our point of focus.
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            • RMZDADDY
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2007
              • 379

              #21
              Originally posted by ghostofpf1
              I'm confused....some of you are saying that the professor acted out of line...was there video or something to back this up or are you simply parroting what you've been told to??
              thanks
              Steve
              Very good point. so what about OUR president claiming the officer acted "stupidly"?

              Does he have some video evidence we're not aware of?

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              • ghostofpf1
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2008
                • 392

                #22
                Originally posted by RMZDADDY
                Very good point. so what about OUR president claiming the officer acted "stupidly"?

                Does he have some video evidence we're not aware of?
                I asked first ....

                Steve

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                • NorthernBoater
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 811

                  #23
                  His house was also broken into recently. So it is not that outrageous to think that when a neighbor saw a man trying to pry the door open. I hope if any of my neighbors see someone trying to pry the door open they also call the cops.

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                  • domwilson
                    Moderator
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 4408

                    #24
                    Originally posted by NorthernBoater
                    His house was also broken into recently. So it is not that outrageous to think that when a neighbor saw a man trying to pry the door open. I hope if any of my neighbors see someone trying to pry the door open they also call the cops.
                    My question is this...Didn't the neighbor recognize this man? After all, they are neighbors.
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                    • Steven Vaccaro
                      Administrator
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 8720

                      #25
                      Obama's attempt to get back onto the good side of the police unions.
                      In a White House press conference, President Obama weighed in on the case of prominent Harvard University professor Henry Louis Gates Jr., who was arrested and charged with disorderly conduct after an incident with police responding to a call about someone apparently trying to break into his Cambridge, Mass., home. Gates, who according to his attorney had been trying to force open a jammed door, was inside the house when the Cambridge police officer got there. Gates allegedly responded to the officer's request for identification by shouting, "Why, because I am a black man in America?" and calling him a racist. Cambridge police are likely to drop the charges against him later today, according to The Associated Press.
                      Steven Vaccaro

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                      • Steven Vaccaro
                        Administrator
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 8720

                        #26
                        Originally posted by domwilson
                        My question is this...Didn't the neighbor recognize this man? After all, they are neighbors.
                        Here we go, lets blame the neighbor!
                        She's probably a racist that didn't like Gates.
                        Steven Vaccaro

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                        • domwilson
                          Moderator
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 4408

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Steven Vaccaro
                          Here we go, lets blame the neighbor!
                          She's probably a racist that didn't like Gates.
                          Not blaming the neighbor. I think it was a valid question. I'm just trying to get the facts. Not placing any blame here.
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                          • Steven Vaccaro
                            Administrator
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 8720

                            #28
                            I've recently "heard" she was visiting and not a neighbor.
                            Steven Vaccaro

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                            • domwilson
                              Moderator
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 4408

                              #29
                              That makes a difference and is understandable.
                              Government Moto:
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                              • Steven Vaccaro
                                Administrator
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 8720

                                #30
                                Gates side of the story. This is great reading


                                I can't believe they put him in a small cell after he told them he was claustrophobic.
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