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  • sailr
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Nov 2007
    • 6927

    #466
    Confused? YOU are the one that's confused! He is referring to the right wing idealogues that you voted for...not the current administration! Just how much more crap can you righties make up trying to excuse the egregious behavior of the GOP? Give it up. Your party is dieing. After 2010 there won't be enough of them to write a Leave The Room Slip to go take a crap!

    Originally posted by AndyKunz
    Is he referring to the gullible voters who elected the current administration? If so, why were the right-wing propagandists trying to get these clowns elected? Why weren't they trying to get their own people elected?

    Are the gullible voters who elected Obama et al the same people who are now protesting his health-(un)care plan at the town hall meetings?

    Seems this guy is more than a little confused.

    To help clear up some of the confusion, try this 1934 political cartoon link.

    Andy
    Mini Cat Racing USA
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    • sailr
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Nov 2007
      • 6927

      #467
      It should also be the government's job to protect the people from crooks, liars and thieves...eg, the insurance industry and the financial industry! Deregulation that the right wing favors ... in other word free markets, has proven immeasurably that it doesn't work. The people get the shaft and the rich and their cronies in congress get the bucks. It is beyond me how anyone who is sitting here on the outside of government can't see how bad things are because of the GOP and yet still support their miserably failed policies!

      In the case of health care, the industry has been allowed to trample on the people until we are all bloodied! Reduce them to a commodity? Hell yes and regulate the hell of it!

      You are delusional if you think economics and politics are two separate topics!


      Originally posted by domwilson
      In general, free market does work. But it hasn't/doesn't work in this case. Healthcare should not be reduced to a commodity. And yes there is collusion between big companies and politicians. What do you think some of the lobbyist do? Finally, the government's job is to govern the people. To protect the people from the people. Economics and Politics are two separate topics. The problem is reducing the value of life to dollars and cents.
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      • domwilson
        Moderator
        • Apr 2007
        • 4408

        #468
        Originally posted by sailr
        It should also be the government's job to protect the people from crooks, liars and thieves...eg, the insurance industry and the financial industry! Deregulation that the right wing favors ... in other word free markets, has proven immeasurably that it doesn't work. The people get the shaft and the rich and their cronies in congress get the bucks. It is beyond me how anyone who is sitting here on the outside of government can't see how bad things are because of the GOP and yet still support their miserably failed policies!

        In the case of health care, the industry has been allowed to trample on the people until we are all bloodied! Reduce them to a commodity? Hell yes and regulate the hell of it!

        You are delusional if you think economics and politics are two separate topics!
        They are two separate topics. One drives the other. However, the powers that be, have interchangeably used both to further their own personal agendas. Big business should not govern the people. We are being converted from a nation of "free spirits" to consumerist slaves. "To protect the people from the people" I think would cover liars, crooks and thieves.
        Government Moto:
        "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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        • domwilson
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          • Apr 2007
          • 4408

          #469
          Interesting.... http://newt.org/tabid/102/articleTyp...-Regroups.aspx
          Government Moto:
          "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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          • AndyKunz
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            • Sep 2008
            • 1437

            #470
            Originally posted by sailr
            Confused? YOU are the one that's confused! He is referring to the right wing idealogues that you voted for...not the current administration! Just how much more crap can you righties make up trying to excuse the egregious behavior of the GOP? Give it up. Your party is dieing. After 2010 there won't be enough of them to write a Leave The Room Slip to go take a crap!
            To whom were you directing that?

            I don't have a party. I'm independent. Not even a Libertarian (although they have some great ideas). Some here apparently equate "Republican" with "Conservative" or "Right wing" (vs. Democrat = Wrong Wing), but that's not the case. There are Conservative Democrats and Liberal Republicans. Look at Christy Whitman - she was as Democrat in principle as Jim McGreevy and Jon Corzine.

            Please, if you're going to make stereotypes, at least make sure they have some basis in fact first.

            I think you're way underestimating the Republicans, though. They might be fewer in numbers when you look at registrations, but why do they keep electing such a large percentage? Is it perhaps because there are Party Democrats and Thinking Democrats, and the Thinking type realizes that sometimes he has to cross Party Lines to get the better candidate?!?!?

            Andy
            Spektrum Development Team

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