So this is what hes going to do if he gets in

[sjslhill]

Your Bush and McCain comparsion is pathetic....McCain has been a thorn in Bush's side except for Iraq which he was correct on. Troop reductions are starting now and Iraq's government is taking control. Obama voted to move out and surrender and hand the country over to radical Al-Qaeda, wow, what a plan that was. I don't exactly like McCain that much but he has more than 145 days of experience.

Let's review....
Obama voted to surrender
Obama wants the ban on drilling to continue which makes certain that we will buy oil from the Saudi's

McCain wants to drill for the future
McCain helped us win the war in Iraq.

[Darin Jordan]

Curious conversation going on here... Seems like there is a lot of info out there... hard to tell which is correct.

The more conservative radio shows have been claiming that it's a "fact" that the US holds more oil in reserves (proven? Unproven???) than a "majority of the middle-east combined"... A "30-year supply at current consumption levels".

I guess I'd better go do some fact finding because figuring out who to believe is going to be tough...

What's more... the US Oil reserves are supposedly the more "gas friendly" "sweet" crude that is desired for gas production...

I disagree that getting our own oil production going wouldn't help... Recently, just the TALK of us drilling our own reserves lowered prices per barrel... I disagree that taking the silver spoon away from the Middle East wouldn't help to fix things to some degree...

BUT, I DO agree that we need to find a better source of power... The high prices currently are prompting some interesting research and development... One can only hope this continues...

[sjslhill]

Welcome Darin,

Fire away......

If we wanted oil we could have it in less than a year in the Government decided to do so. All one has to do is look at WWII and see what this country can do.

I agree that we need to look at a better source, in fact, let's do it and sell the technology!

Sell grain to the middle east for $120 a bushel.

[sjslhill]

Well....

Most of it is correct....some kinda harsh. It's never going to happen in your life, the country will go broke and fold at this rate. Bush broke the country going to Iraq and now oil is killing us.....both these guys running don't look that good, Obama being the least of two.

What? No comment on the Jet Manifesto??

I thought that would raise your ire just a bit. I was certain you would want to shoot some holes in my Right-Wing-Extremist Agenda.

[sjslhill]

this just in....

The great Obama says....

tune your car and add air to your tires and suck it up.

Obama must not know that gun packing, church going, middle class America's do this already.....

[Dr. Jet]

Sell grain to the middle east for $120 a bushel.

Now there's an idea that should be part of the Jet Manifesto with one "slight" revision. Tie it to the price of oil. Say 1.5 times the price of a barrel of oil. Consider that a modification of Manifesto Item "Domestic: M: Oil:"

[Dr. Jet]

....some kinda harsh.

Yep.

[sjslhill]

The Geological Survey and Congressional Research Service say it's 95 percent likely that there are 15.6 billion barrels of oil beneath ANWR. With today's prices and technology, 60 percent of that is recoverable. At $135 a barrel, that represents $1.3 trillion that we would not have to send to Iran, Russia, Saudi Arabia and Venezuela. It means lower prices and reduced risks of oil spills from tankers carrying foreign crude.

[sjslhill]

It is production that matters – and the United States has locked up vast energy resources. Not just an estimated 169 billion barrels of oil in the Outer Continental Shelf, Rockies, Great Lakes, Southwest and ANWR – but also natural gas, coal, uranium and hydroelectric resources.

[sjslhill]

While Washington dithers over exploiting oil and gas reserves off the coast of Florida, China has seized the opportunity to gobble up these deposits, which run throughout Latin America, the Caribbean and along the U.S. Gulf coast.

The Chinese have forged a deal with Cuban leader Fidel Castro to explore and tap into massive oil reserves almost within sight of Key West, Florida. At the same time, Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, who controls the largest oil reserves in the Western Hemisphere, is making deals to sell his country�s oil to China, oil that is currently coming to the United States.

[Darin Jordan]

The Geological Survey and Congressional Research Service say it's 95 percent likely that there are 15.6 billion barrels of oil beneath ANWR.

And that's ONLY ANWR... That doesn't include the coasts and shale oil, etc. that are available as well...

Actually... the US has been "smart" to hold off on drilling our own... let the others run out first, then we'll be in their shoes next...

[sjslhill]

The Democrat Party along with the MSM rejected this energy proposal as soon as the President was finished talking. this rejection came from Democrats like Sen. Harry Reid, and Rep. Nancy Pelosi. The Democrat party has blocked drilling, nuclear, solar, wind or creating new refineries for over 30 years! Most of the alternatives were blocked by the Democrat enviromarzists. Even wind projects were blocked due to migratory bird patterns.

Sen. Barack Obama is totally against this energy plan as well. He contends that it will only help a few pennies. His plan? Tax the oil companies profits by 25%. Tell the oil companies to drill somewhere else. Sen Obama if 8.5c per gallon of gas is too much profit how about the 18c a gallon that federal taxes take? And that does not include state taxes. By your standards the Government is making more than twice the profits that the oil companies do!

[sjslhill]

And just so everyone here knows...
We have

New energy star rated windows
Energy star rated furnace
Thermostat
28 mpg gallon highway van....5 family members or we would drive something smaller
All new bulbs in the house that do not last 5 years like they stated and we have saved energy but lost money on those.
We have driven 75% less in 2008 ytd vs 2007
Looking into windmill to charge batteries for lighting

We are doing our part and not just slinging words here.

[Bill-SOCAL]

The Geological Survey and Congressional Research Service say it's 95 percent likely that there are 15.6 billion barrels of oil beneath ANWR. With today's prices and technology, 60 percent of that is recoverable. .

Can you please cite the source for this information??

[sjslhill]

I saw it here amoung other places

http://www.speroforum.com/site/article.asp?id=15611

Paul Driessen is senior policy advisor for the Committee For A Constructive Tomorrow and Congress of Racial Equality and, and author of Eco-Imperialism: Green power -- Black death.