If thine Data offends thee, throw it out....

[Fluid]

Strange, and 2009 is one of the coolest year on record for decades...or is it? Now no one will ever know.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,577746,00.html?loomia_ow=t0:s0:a16:g2:r4:c0.029661:b29114824:z10

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[RMZDADDY]

Here in the midwest, last winter was cold, spring was cool as well, and to top it off we had the coolest August EVER recorded in Cedar Rapids IA. (where I live).

I'm not making a broader judgment here, but, if global warming is occurring, it is certainly avoiding Iowa this year.

[Bill-SOCAL]

Here in the midwest, last winter was cold, spring was cool as well, and to top it off we had the coolest August EVER recorded in Cedar Rapids IA. (where I live).

I'm not making a broader judgment here, but, if global warming is occurring, it is certainly avoiding Iowa this year.

You, along with many others, confuse your local weather with global climate. And your weather is entirely consistent with the predicted results of global warming, weather instability. Colder than normal in some place, hotter others. Wetter or drier, etc. Out of the ordinary weather is one result of global warming.

To try to correct this confusion many climate scientists are now using the more accurate term "global climate change". Of course they then get attacked for that.

As far as the concern for data, all I can say Jay is that the (false) alarm is more the result of not understanding how scientists work than it is some nefarious plot to take your SUV away from you.

This is a pretty good summary of what climate is as opposed to weather.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate

[RMZDADDY]

Bill, I merely posted what the temperature has been like over the past year where I live.

I then said that I am not making any broader judgments based on that. (did you miss that part?) I wouldn't want to assume you are confused.

Now you claim I'm confused about the difference between local and global climate?

I thought my first post was pretty clear, so I guess other members should not post what their local weather has been like in 2009 so you don't assume they are confused as well

[Simon.O.]

I don't have the data at hand but I have seen a few reprts that show that we had one of the coldest winters ever here. I know it was cold.

[Jeff Wohlt]

There are facts from many scientist that say you can not judge one, two or even ten seasons to gain the info they have done on global warming. It does make sense as we are destroying our ozone layer.

Do I believe...well I do know we are putting more crap in the air than any other time of this planet's history. We do need to make changes but I am not worried in my lifetime, my kids or their kids' time.

Do I freak on this crap and Al Gore...no...they just need another stage to playout their performances.

[Darin Jordan]

I personally enjoyed seeing this:

http://www.costcoconnection.com/connection/200912#pg11

The wheels are falling off of all these myths very quickly... Hopefully, it's quicker than the current administration can pass more taxes based on them.

[Bill-SOCAL]

Bill, I merely posted what the temperature has been like over the past year where I live.

I then said that I am not making any broader judgments based on that. (did you miss that part?) I wouldn't want to assume you are confused.

Now you claim I'm confused about the difference between local and global climate?

I thought my first post was pretty clear, so I guess other members should not post what their local weather has been like in 2009 so you don't assume they are confused as well

I was using your post as an example of the type of confusion that is common to this subject.

[Rumdog]

Just another example of right vs. left politics. It shouldn't matter if global warming or not. Everyone should be doing thier part to reduce/re-use and recycle, because cutting down on pollution is a necessity to preserve nature.

[Jeff Wohlt]

Exactly, Rumdog. I could not agree more. We are destroying it there is no doubt about it.

Go see 2012 the movie...very cool.

[Darin Jordan]

Just another example of right vs. left politics. It shouldn't matter if global warming or not. Everyone should be doing thier part to reduce/re-use and recycle, because cutting down on pollution is a necessity to preserve nature.

It DOES freaking matter, when the LEFT keeps pushing this crap as a way to raise taxes senslessly on the American people, while the rest of the world bowls right over us...

I'm all for reducing polution, finding better energy sources, and preserving this planet... but it has to be done with some common sense, not the self-destructive suicidal path the current braintrust is heading us towards...

[Darin Jordan]

Go see 2012 the movie...very cool.

BUT just a HOLLYWOOD MOVIE! i.e.: NOT BASED IN REALITY!!

Just like Al Gore's little ditty...

[Diegoboy]

Anyone like to comment on THIS? ←


Last paragraph:

Cars produce the same type of gases that a volcano produces with each eruption. One volcanic eruption produces more of these polluted toxic gasses then man has produced since the invention of fire. But yet the volcano pollution created a clean and clear atmosphere that we now breathe? And cars, which have not produced even equal to one eruption, are killing us?

Volcano produces: carbon monoxide (CO), carbon dioxide (CO2), hydrochloric acid (HCl), methane (CH4), ammonia (NH3), nitrogen (N2), & sulfur gases

Cars emit: Hydrocarbons, Nitrogen oxides and Carbon monoxide.

[Darin Jordan]

Anyone like to comment on THIS? ←


Last paragraph:

EXACTLY, Diegoboy... I've been using that example for years...

In 1980, when Mt. St. Helens errupted, they TOLD us the weather would be affected dramatically for the next 10 years or so... How many have errupted since then???

Give me a freaking break, Al Gore!

[Diegoboy]

Mt. Pinatubo in the Philippines errupted in 1991. Science shows a 0.5 degree cooler global temp a year later.
I said COOLER!