it's here!

[SweetZ28]

Added some paint and detail to bring her to life!!
Stuck with the red and black scheem

Well it looks great looks like they use a solid cable now ...only one thing is my esc receiver unit is flopping around and it did not stay stuck in place so now i don't know where it supposed to go!!

I am going to put deans connectors on it and try and see if i can run it later.
http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15889&d=1250018943
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[Ub Hauled]

WOW. look at this little bugger! Very nice!!!
How does she ride? Take some video for us please

[SweetZ28]

WOW. look at this little bugger! Very nice!!!
How does she ride? Take some video for us please
It is big it's 17.5IN long way nicer size than the other minis.
:cursing: I AM PISSED!!!
First off when i got this the speed controle wasl off flopping all around it supposed to be way up under in top of the hull! boy what a time getting it back up where it belongs...there crappy velcro came right off the esc!

Next i go to the pond to shoot a video and i put it in the water and go about 2 feet and zeeeeeeee the dumb jerks who put it together did not tighten the coupler to the drive shaft!!! No video and a big wast of time ...and just to think i was almost going to take my tools along but i decided not to!!\

O well at least i got to run my groupner manta!! I got a little vid of it going i will post it later... Had troubles with this also my motor ran at 95 Deg but my ESC was 165Deg!! I have to put water cooling on it some how....
Till next time!!

[racer1]

I just got one and everything was right. The stock motor and esc lasted one run. I am in the middle of modifying it to brushless. New flex shaft, stuffing tube, prop, and strut are in the mail. I will post some pix when I have it going.

[Brushless55]

It is big it's 17.5IN long way nicer size than the other minis.
:cursing: I AM PISSED!!!
First off when i got this the speed controle wasl off flopping all around it supposed to be way up under in top of the hull! boy what a time getting it back up where it belongs...there crappy velcro came right off the esc!

Next i go to the pond to shoot a video and i put it in the water and go about 2 feet and zeeeeeeee the dumb jerks who put it together did not tighten the coupler to the drive shaft!!! No video and a big wast of time ...and just to think i was almost going to take my tools along but i decided not to!!\
O well at least i got to run my groupner manta!! I got a little vid of it going i will post it later... Had troubles with this also my motor ran at 95 Deg but my ESC was 165Deg!! I have to put water cooling on it some how....
Till next time!!

this is why we go over all parts and make sure they are tight and where they need to be and check for leaks before making a run... :bounce:

[JimClark]

What brushless are you going to try?


I just got one and everything was right. The stock motor and esc lasted one run. I am in the middle of modifying it to brushless. New flex shaft, stuffing tube, prop, and strut are in the mail. I will post some pix when I have it going.

[racer1]

I am using the brushless motor and esc from the Helimax MX400 Pro


http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXLBS1&P=7

I would have some pictures posted by now but I can't figure out how to do it. I saved them to my profile but I don't know what to do from there. if U can help you will be able to see it.

[JimClark]

what did you do with the motor mount?
Is it a flex shaft now?

[racer1]

I left the stock motor mount the holes lined up perfect. I just wraped the strap with tape to make it tight on the motor. It comes with a solid piano wire shaft with a 3 or 4 mm drive. I put in a .91 flex shaft with a 1/8 drive. Do you know how to post pictures? sorry Im new.

[JimClark]

copy the location of the picture (the URL) and go to the message window. At the top there is a picture icon paste the URL into it.

http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/picture.php?albumid=95&pictureid=898

[racer1]

http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/picture.php?albumid=95&pictureid=899

[racer1]

http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/picture.php?albumid=95&pictureid=897

[racer1]

http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/picture.php?albumid=95&pictureid=896

[racer1]

thanks for the instrustions

[Rumdog]

have you ran it yet? I wonder if it's gonna try to plane on the turn fins at higher speed. 2 turn fins on a hydro?! wonder how she's gonna ride

[racer1]

i have run it with and without those fins. I put them there in hopes of holding the nose down. now no matter what I do and how I adjust the drive and weight at about 30+ it stuffs the nose. I'm clueless cause I have tried less weight in the front and the torque rolls it over and adjusting the drive to pitch the nose up and it skips all over the water and is completely un-controlable. If you have any insight it would be great.

[domwilson]

What prop is that?

[JimClark]

Never noticed the two turn fins why on earth did you do that? that would cause more problems in handling.



i have run it with and without those fins. I put them there in hopes of holding the nose down. now no matter what I do and how I adjust the drive and weight at about 30+ it stuffs the nose. I'm clueless cause I have tried less weight in the front and the torque rolls it over and adjusting the drive to pitch the nose up and it skips all over the water and is completely un-controlable. If you have any insight it would be great.

[JimClark]

Probably an x430

[Rumdog]

What's the "plate" near the front of the hull?

[racer1]

you can't tell in the picture bot the "plate" is actually stick on lead to add weight to the front. The prop is an octura X432 I'm gonna take off the two fins cause you're right it didn't help.

[SPISHAK]

http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/picture.php?albumid=95&pictureid=897

Should the prop be that far out back on this tiny little pond skimmer? I've been lurking around these mini thunder threads trying to decide whether this should be my first hydro. (I have access to a tiny pond, and can't go with anything much bigger or faster) TIA

[SPISHAK]

The stock motor and esc lasted one run.

They burned up on first run?

[SPISHAK]

how much water gets inside of these buggers?

[SPISHAK]

I am using the brushless motor and esc from the Helimax MX400 Pro

will that motor fit the stock coupler/shaft/whatever you call it that goes to the stock prop? The only mods I plan to do are BL conversion and bigger turn fin.....just want a bit more speed and better turn bite. TIA

[racer1]

it didn't burn up, it just wasnt fast enough for me. If you don't tape it up a considerable amount of water gets inside but everything is "waterproof" I tape mine and I only get a little from the stuffing tube. I don't know what motor will fit the adapter right except for what I put in but you have to make a spacer for the strap that holds the motor cause it's a little smaller diameter.

If you go brushless I recomend that you only run up to 3000 kv and a 2 cell lipo or you start running into major stability issues withous serious modification (as you can see by the pictures)

as for the turn fin, just drill new holes in the boat and lower it like 1/2 inch. if you havea vice you can also put like 20-30 degrees of hook in it to hold the side down when you corner.

Here is a link for the motor.....Hope I could help.

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXLBS1&P=7

[SweetZ28]

Mine feels pretty quick with the T-400 motor installed..... and it runs cool so i bet you can use a little bigger better prop and that to will make it a little faster.

[SPISHAK]

Mine feels pretty quick with the T-400 motor installed..... and it runs cool so i bet you can use a little bigger better prop and that to will make it a little faster.

What size is stock? What size would you suggest? I'm new and this is my first boat. TIA

[SweetZ28]

What size is stock? What size would you suggest? I'm new and this is my first boat. TIA

Go on aquacrafts web site and look at the mini thunder and at the bottom they list hop ups and the T-400 is shown ...I used it and it makes the boat a nice swift speed.

[SPISHAK]

What size is stock? What size would you suggest? I'm new and this is my first boat. TIA

I was talking about the prop! :doh: My mini was just delivered and it does not look like a bigger prop will fit under there. I will keep it stock but with the T400 motor and 1600mah bat from the upgrade list.....and a maybe a bigger turn fin. I will also start on a custom paint scheme. :rockon2:

[JimClark]

Mine had a 30mm prop

[SweetZ28]

:thumbup1:I got a nice 2200 20C lipo that i am going to try with mine with the T-400 motor it should come alive!!
That's if it ever stops raining here!!!:cursing:

[v-spec]

:thumbup1:I got a nice 2200 20C lipo that i am going to try with mine with the T-400 motor it should come alive!!
That's if it ever stops raining here!!!:cursing:

Boat's run good when they are wet! Go ahead at take it out!

[SweetZ28]

Well with the lipo it stunk...it felt like with the stock battery and T-400 this boat is at it's limit in stock form......with the lipo it just gives it that little more than the nimh battery and it cavitates and the rear stays pushed to the left side and it takes for ever to get on plane!!! what is it with this boat it always feels like air is under it in the prop and the bats rear always stays to the left side making it not go straight and get on plane...any help will be great.

[JimClark]

Did you leave it in the stock position? If you did the CG was way different

[SweetZ28]

what would be needed to do what way would i need to move it.... funny thing it does this with the stock battery also?

[JimClark]

Weigh the batteries to see how much difference in weight. My guess is you will need to move weight forward. Wonder where the cg is in the stock setup

[SweetZ28]

Weigh the batteries to see how much difference in weight. My guess is you will need to move weight forward. Wonder where the cg is in the stock setup

the batteries are like 20 grams lighter than the stock NIMH packs....but even with these it feels funny ... you give it gas and you see the rear pushing towards the left fighting it's self when you are going straight and it kind of sounds like there is air under the prop and the boat takes a very long time to get strai and on plane ?

[poobs]

Hi

I'm considering buying two of these little hydros or two of the Mini rios torace with my son. Hopefully I can make it faster later on.

Did anyone get the hydro running fast and stable with brushless and 2S Li- Po ?

What do you guys think of this set up ? http://cgi.ebay.com/1700-Outrunner-Brushless-RC-Motor-30A-ESC-y-/250662338379?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Radio_Control_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a5ca3bf4b

:confused2: