Diegoboy's Mini Budweiser

[Diegoboy]

Introducing Diegoboy's 17.5" Fiberglass Mini Bud Hydro.

I dedicate this build to my good Friend DIRTYSOUTH31 (http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/member.php?u=96) who has retired from the hobby.
I remember a time he used to love Riggers & Hydros
This Bud's for YOU Dirty!

She will be stripped down and dressed properly after the build, but 1st things 1st, I have to finish a Monster Hydro for a friend.
The mini Bud will have...


Motor: Feigao 380 8L brushless motor 3633 kV (http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/proddetail.php?prod=fei-380-L) - Already have
Drive line: .130 Flex cable (http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/proddetail.php?prod=oct-oc64pkg) - Already have
Prop Shaft: 3/16 reduced to 1/8 (http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/proddetail.php?prod=oct-oc64pkg) - Don't have
Rudder: Head of the river Mini series Rudder (http://cgi.ebay.com/aluminum-rudder-for-up-to-16-rc-boat-mini-series_W0QQitemZ290277169772QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRad io_Control_Vehicles?hash=item290277169772&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1262&_trkparms=%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A30) - Don't have
Strut: RCMK HSX Strut (http://www.rcmk.com/main.php?pg_ctrl=3product&sn=0802000011) - Don't have
Turn fin: Undetermined
Servo: Futaba Mini S-3115 (http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXNCV8) - Already Have
ESC: Mystery 80 (http://www.toysonics.com/mystery-80a-brushless-motor-electric-speed-controller-esc.html) - (Thank you Doby)


She will be run on a 3S Lipo
In the meantime, Here's a few teaser pics.

http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_3143-sm.jpg (http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_3143.jpg)

http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_3144-sm.jpg (http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_3144.jpg)

http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_3145-sm.jpg (http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_3145.jpg)

http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_3146-sm.jpg (http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_3146.jpg)

** NOTE: nothing is mounted as yet. All parts displayed are merely set in place. Stuffing tube is just inserted, not fixed to the hull yet. **

[Doby]

How long will we all have to wait to see this one run?????????????????????
I might have a Mystery 80 Amp controller somewhere that you could have as well as a cable. I'll check tonight.

[Meniscus]

I have the rudder for you!

[Meniscus]

Are you going with a prop wash water pickup?
And do you have a battery yet?

[Flying Scotsman]

That is a neat looking hull and great that you are going against the grain of building very expensive large FE boats. The power proposed should make that a rocket on calm water

Douggie

[Diegoboy]

How long will we all have to wait to see this one run?????????????????????
I might have a Mystery 80 Amp controller somewhere that you could have as well as a cable. I'll check tonight.

It shouldn't be too long Doby, Especially thanks to your kindness with the ESC. Thank you!


I have the rudder for you!

I know that you need that Rudder Meniscus!


Are you going with a prop wash water pickup?
And do you have a battery yet?

I haven't given much thought to the pickup yet.


That is a neat looking hull and great that you are going against the grain of building very expensive large FE boats. The power proposed should make that a rocket on calm water

Douggie

Thank you Doug, I love to go against the grain, but this is based more on budget. :lol:

[trepanned23]

Question from a newbie:
I have a 380 8L brushless Feigao that I will be putting in my first build (in progress Miss K vintage shovel 22.5X10 in.) I was thinking of running 2s, You are going to run 3s

Question: Advantages for 3s over 2s besides more power/longer run time. ?

Very nice looking boat btw. Thanks for your patience, guys. (So new to the sport, I'm almost completely clueless) I've always wanted to build a fast vintage rc hydro.

George

[Jesse J]

Joe makes a pretty cool turn fin. Great looking boat Diegoboy, keep it up! I'll be watching...

[Diegoboy]

Thank you George, & Welcome to OSE.

The mAh rating of the battery will determine run time. The higher the mAh, the longer your run. The advantage of 3S over 2S (using our motor) is speed.
2S (7.4V x 3633kV = 26,800 RPM) or 3S (11.1V x 3633kV = 40,300 RPM)
There are a lot of other considerations too like C rating, but that's another story.
You can increase the mAh by running packs in parallel. Voltage stays the same though.
or
You can increase the Voltage by running packs in series. mAh stays the same though.
I hope that helps.

Thanks for the comment Jesse J!!

Danny

[trepanned23]

Great, Thanks, Jesse. More speed is a very nice upgrade!

[Flying Scotsman]

The neat thing about this thread is I started off within this hobby building H&M small boats a Drifter Micro Cat and a No Step One mono. All powered with NI-Cad (6 and 7 cells)and brushed motors and they were and are still fun boats. I will not sell them as I still love taking them out for a spin and they can be demanding to run.

Douggie

[Doby]

Diego; PM me your address and I'll send out the controller this week.

[6S HYDRO]

what is the make of the hull

[Diegoboy]

The neat thing about this thread is I started off within this hobby building H&M small boats a Drifter Micro Cat and a No Step One mono. All powered with NI-Cad (6 and 7 cells)and brushed motors and they were and are still fun boats. I will not sell them as I still love taking them out for a spin and they can be demanding to run.

Douggie

I like the little boats because they are more cost saving to build and run. Plus they are fun, harder to see at a distance, but still very fun!


Diego; PM me your address and I'll send out the controller this week.

PM sent! Thank you VERY much Doby


what is the make of the hull

It's Chinese. From the "Head of the river (http://cgi.ebay.com/17-1-2-long-fibre-glass-hydro-plane-hull-for-electric_W0QQitemZ290280349918QQihZ019QQcategoryZ2 564QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZ p1638Q2em118Q2el1247)" guy.

[Meniscus]

Diego, it looks like I may have a strut for you as well, LOL!

[bustitup]

very nice...man its tight in there...lol



Introducing Diegoboy's 17.5" Fiberglass Mini Bud Hydro.
She will be stripped down and dressed properly after the build, but 1st things 1st, I have to finish a Monster Hydro for a friend.
The mini Bud will have...


Motor: Feigao 380 8L brushless motor 3633 kV - Already have
Drive line: .130 Flex cable - Already have
Prop Shaft: 3/16 reduced to 1/8 - Don't have
Rudder: Solinger mini rudder - Don't have
Strut: Undetermined
Turn fin: Undetermined
Servo: Futaba Mini S-3115 - Already Have
ESC: Undetermined


She will be run on a 3S Lipo
In the meantime, Here's a few teaser pics.

http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_3143-sm.jpg (http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_3143.jpg)

http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_3144-sm.jpg (http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_3144.jpg)

http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_3145-sm.jpg (http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_3145.jpg)

http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_3146-sm.jpg (http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_3146.jpg)

** NOTE: nothing is mounted as yet. All parts displayed are merely set in place. Stuffing tube is just inserted, not fixed to the hull yet. **

[Diegoboy]

I like to think of it more like "Snug" :tongue_smilie:

[bustitup]

I like to think of it more like "Snug" :tongue_smilie:

you have to power that rig with AAA's?:ohmy:

[Diegoboy]

:lol: Na, my 3S fits perfectly in the nose. No fighting to get it in there either, believe it or not. It just slides right in.

[Doby]

Diego; Controller in the mail 1 hour ago, should be there sometime in August!!!!

This now gives me the right to harrass you as much as I want until a vid is posted !

[Diegoboy]

Many thanks to you Doby.

After much deliberation, I have decided to change my strut & rudder choices due to the 11/16" high transom she has.




Rudder: Solinger mini rudder - Don't have
Strut: Undetermined



Change:

Rudder: Head of the river Mini series Rudder (http://cgi.ebay.com/aluminum-rudder-for-up-to-16-rc-boat-mini-series_W0QQitemZ290277169772QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRad io_Control_Vehicles?hash=item290277169772&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1262&_trkparms=%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A30) - Don't have
Strut: RCMK HSX Strut (http://www.rcmk.com/main.php?pg_ctrl=3product&sn=0802000011) - Don't have


Changes made to OP

[Diegoboy]

Build dedication also added to the OP (original post)




I dedicate this build to my good Friend DIRTYSOUTH31 (http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/member.php?u=96) who has retired from the hobby.
I remember a time he used to love Riggers & Hydros
This Bud's for YOU Dirty!

[tylerm]

Good choice on the strut, ive seen a couple there a nice unit.

[Meniscus]

Oh well, I'll keep my stuff then...unless you want to put it on something else!

I'm glad to see that you are dedicated this one to dirty. We all miss him!

[IONY]

Many thanks to you Doby.

After much deliberation, I have decided to change my strut & rudder choices due to the 11/16" high transom she has.



Change:

Rudder: Head of the river Mini series Rudder (http://cgi.ebay.com/aluminum-rudder-for-up-to-16-rc-boat-mini-series_W0QQitemZ290277169772QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRad io_Control_Vehicles?hash=item290277169772&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1262&_trkparms=%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A30) - Don't have
Strut: RCMK HSX Strut (http://www.rcmk.com/main.php?pg_ctrl=3product&sn=0802000011) - Don't have


Changes made to OP

look here diego but take care that rudder is to smal for that boat i have it on my minihidro and it didnt turn so well

[IONY]

http://cgi.ebay.com/aluminum-strut-and-rudder-combo-set-mini-series_W0QQitemZ300256641799QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRad io_Control_Vehicles?hash=item300256641799&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1262&_trkparms=%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A30

[IONY]

another photo

[IONY]

i think that the mini hidro usa rudder it that you need there i wil upgrade to that my mini
http://www.azmodels.ro/produs.php?Produs=340
this one

[Diegoboy]

Good choice on the strut, ive seen a couple there a nice unit.

Thanks!



Oh well, I'll keep my stuff then...unless you want to put it on something else!

I'm glad to see that you are dedicated this one to dirty. We all miss him!


Ya, I miss talking to him. We all miss his company @ the pond.


i think that the mini hidro usa rudder it that you need there i wil upgrade to that my mini
http://www.azmodels.ro/produs.php?Produs=340
this one

I have thought about the rudder length, but I intend to mount it to the left instead, which brings up another good question. "rudder placement on a hydro"
also, that rudder mount is too high. my transom is only 11/16" high. How long is your hydro? What servo are you using in your hydro? maybe not enough torque @ speed

[Diegoboy]

Iony, I'm almost sure that your servo is simply too weak to overcome the forces your speed is applying on the rudder.

[IONY]

well i use this servo and yes it is a smole one

[IONY]

i want to change with this micro
http://www.mcsportrc.ro/Radiocomenzi-Servomecanisme%20Digitale.html

[Diegoboy]

well i use this servo and yes it is a smole one

*Dimensions: 20.9mmX11.4mmX22mm
*Operating Speed (4.8V no load): 0.10sec/60 degrees
*Stall Torque (4.8V): 10.2 oz/in (0.7 kg/cm)
*Temperature Range: -30 to +60 Degree C
*Dead Band Width: 7usec
*Operating Voltage:4.0-7.0 Volt

Ya. I'm sure you need a new servo, not a new rudder.
My servo (http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXNCV8) has 39 oz-in (2.8 kg/cm). as opposed to your (http://www.nesail.com/detail.php?productID=3404) 10.2 oz/in (0.7 kg/cm)
Want to sell your old rudder? :smile:

[IONY]

Nop i will try with the new servo

[Meniscus]

Lol!

[HOTWATER]

*Dimensions: 20.9mmX11.4mmX22mm
*Operating Speed (4.8V no load): 0.10sec/60 degrees
*Stall Torque (4.8V): 10.2 oz/in (0.7 kg/cm)
*Temperature Range: -30 to +60 Degree C
*Dead Band Width: 7usec
*Operating Voltage:4.0-7.0 Volt

Ya. I'm sure you need a new servo, not a new rudder.
My servo (http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXNCV8) has 39 oz-in (2.8 kg/cm). as opposed to your (http://www.nesail.com/detail.php?productID=3404) 10.2 oz/in (0.7 kg/cm)
Want to sell your old rudder? :smile:


Diego, you are hillarious!!:rofl:

Very cool Mini Bud! I love it!!:beerchug:

-Kent

[Diegoboy]

I'm going to have a hard time with the current decals. They are under the clear coat. :cursing:

[egneg]

Diego I was thinking (no it didn't hurt). If the plastic hull is red all the way through. Try some citrus strip and it may remove the clear and the decals leaving you with a red hull.

[Diegoboy]

It's Fiberglass. :o

[egneg]

Well then it sounds like a repaint - bummer.

[Diegoboy]

Maybe just the upper half :confused2:

[tylerm]

Watch those fibreglass hydros like that- i have seen the big ones split open and all the hull was was a vac-formed plastic shell with a layer of fibreglass inside:doh:

[Diegoboy]

Tylerm I can assure you that this hull is Fiberglass (except for the cowl exhaust part)

[domwilson]

You'll have video of this before you post it in the swap shop, right?:sarcasm1:

[Diegoboy]

:sold: To Domwilson (after a video run) :just-kidding:
:laugh:

[Meniscus]

After seeing this boat in person last week, my first impression was the great size. Not too large, not too small and I'm sure that, despite the size, it will still be capable of some impressive speeds.

Just wanted to say, it's a great size! :smile:

[Doby]

Does size really matter?

[Meniscus]

I hope that was a rhetorical question! Are you asking us? or yourself?

LOL ;)

[Diegoboy]

Can anyone tell me how tall the Solinger hydro HW's footprint is on the transom Please?

[egneg]

20mm

[Diegoboy]

Thanks Egneg. My transom is 18mm tall :mad:

[Diegoboy]

How tall from the top of the upper hole to the bottom of the lower hole? Do you see where I'm going with this? :o

[egneg]

The top to bottom is a tad over 15mm - but do you have enough room for nuts, blind nuts, or the backing plate?

[Meniscus]

Why not put a larger rudder (blade) on the micro Solinger rudder assembly I offered you? Measures 13mm from top to bottom.

[Diegoboy]

Then I'd have to concern myself with a water pickup. I know what you're going to reply with, but let me just say that I want it to look good too!

[bigpapa]

great looking boat, cannot wait to see completed pic, great job so far...........

[Meniscus]

Sponson pickup maybe? http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/proddetail.php?prod=gnd-4191 or similar.

[Meniscus]

...I want it to look good too!

Looks, looks, looks....how shallow ;) Are you implying my latest hardware doesn't look good? :just-kidding:

[Diegoboy]

great looking boat, cannot wait to see completed pic, great job so far...........

Thank you!

Meniscus, I love the Solinger mini rudder. I wish I could use it, but I really need a pickup in the rudder. :o (You out there Joe?)

[HOTWATER]

Hi Diego!

Have you seen the Vacupickle site? I think they use Fullers hardware on the Vac. Not sure if THAT will work for you or not? Just thought I would try to help...

P.S. Just went through some old Xtals I have...will try to post them on your "Great American Xtal exchange" thread...:biggrin:

-Kent

[Diegoboy]

That hw for the pickle is 1" high on the transom. too big for this hull :sad:

[egneg]

Can it be cut down and the holes redrilled?

[Diegoboy]

Yes, but I don't want it to look "rigged"

[lonewolf]

Oh it will be rigged alright........................Lonewolf rigged.......Fear no more the hardware is taken care of...

[Diegoboy]

Lonewolf Custom Hardware to the rescue again!
Thank you Lonewolf! :rockon2:

[Rumdog]

why not just go with the minicat stuff?

[Diegoboy]

The rudder bracket is too high on the transom, and the strut doesn't allow for as much adjustment as I'd like

[Rumdog]

ahhhh. I remember having to slot out the strut to get more adjustment myself. do they offer any options in the chinese stores on ebay?

[Diegoboy]

Well the micro HW I got from OSE will not work. In my excitement to het HW, I failed to realize the strut is for 1/8 .098. I need 3/16 .130. The rudder blade is too short. On a good note, Both mounts to the transom fit perfectly! :o

[lonewolf]

Well hopefully real soon here you will have some new shiney custom hardware for her!!!

[Diegoboy]

Thank you again Lonewolf. I'm excited to see your next masterpiece.

[Diegoboy]

...and here it is!
Thank you VERY much to Lonewolf for producing another custom HW set where the mass produced veriety just will not fit.

http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_3545-sm.jpg (http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_3545.jpg)

http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_3546-sm.jpg (http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_3546.jpg)

:bowdown: LONEWOLF :bowdown:

[Diegoboy]

Clicking on either pic will make it larger. :thumbup:

[screwball]

lonewolf your hardware is so amazing that wors cant even describe it lol

[6S HYDRO]

looks like its gonna be a hard one to tape

[domwilson]

When do you plan to get 'er wet?

[Diegoboy]

looks like its gonna be a hard one to tape

Sub hatch my friend...


When do you plan to get 'er wet?

As soon as I finish Duncanjerry's hydro

[Jesse J]

Impressive work, I love to see these group builds. Ain't nuthin like puttin heads together to solve these pesky problems - everybodys got something to contribute.

Ready to see her boogie. Oh, Danny check to see that you have your rudder servo going the right way BEFORE you get to the pond...

[Diegoboy]

Jesse, thanks for reminding me. I always seem to forget that for some reason... :o

[bigpapa]

one awsome little boat you got there danny

[Diegoboy]

Thanks BP

[Doby]

And the wait for the video begins .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ...................................

[Diegoboy]

Not this time Doby.

Here's (http://www.diegoboy.com/media/mini-bud-00.wmv) the first video (just for you)

[domwilson]

That's funny...What kind of speeds are you getting? GPS? I think the pond is too small to get a good run.:just-kidding:

[sailr]

Haaar! That's a riot!!

[Tom M]

Damn, I was really happy to see that boat run.

[IONY]

me too, i like very much the boat and the hardware :]]]

[Doby]

Half an hour of credits and nothing happens!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Talk about falling for it "hook, line and sinker"


.................and the wait continues......................................... ................................

[egneg]

Hahahaha ... Diego you really sucked Doby into that one!!!

[Diegoboy]

Sorry guys, but the post DID say (just for you "Doby")


http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/smiley/hah.gif Doby
Sorry, I just couldn't resist. :banana:

[ace028]

Your builds are just too cool. Looks great!!!

[screwball]

hahaha that thing was really movin out!!!!! lol

[Diegoboy]

Don't worry guys, real video will be posted soon.

[lonewolf]

It looks eal nice Danny!!!:thumbup1: When did the package arrive???

Well looks like it fit........lol...Hey whats up with the rudder on the left????
The rudder length can be cut down if needed also. I tend to make them longer than nessicery to allow the modeler to cut as needed. Can always take more off but putting it back on is a bit of a challenge. lol