Prop Work

[egneg]

PROP WORK

I can sharpen, balance, detongue, and cup props in a variety of finishes to suit your needs. I will work with you on a one on one basis to deliver exactly what you need. My prices are fair and I ship priority mail all over the world unless other arrangements are made ahead of time. I have more pictures in my profile album under props and in the gallery.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a104/egneg/Props-ose.jpg

You can ask questions here or send me a PM if you like. Prices vary depending on the prop, size, number of blades, material, and all that you may want done to it. I am a premier PayPal verified member.

Chuck Genge


Edit: Photobucket did not allow my use of the Paypal verified logo.

[Jesse J]

I like the sound of this, I have a fair number of raw props and they ain't gettin sharper where they are. here is the list, how about a per prop and a group price for balance, sharpen and sport-grade polish (I am not a racer, nor will be soon)?

X432
X435
X437/3
X438
X442 - would like to detongue
X448
Y535
X637
X640 - would like to detongue
X646
1932

Thanks,
Jesse

[detox]

Do you harden props?

[egneg]

Do you harden props?

I am working on it but I am still in the testing stages so hopefully in the near future I will be able to offer this as well.

Chuck

[detox]

Powerful SAW boats will break and bend a non hardened prop. Here's a good post on prop hardening:

I've done it a couple ways.

#1. If you really want them HARD: Anneal them at 1225F for an hour and quench in water. Do all you prop work: sharpen, balance, thin, cup etc. Then 600F for 2 hours and turn off the kiln and just leave them to cool overnight. This yields very hard props, but you can no longer work them at all.

#2. Just do the 600F step after yo work the prop. Still very hard, but you canbend them a little if you really need to.

[egneg]

Powerful SAW boats will break and bend a non hardened prop. Here's a good post on prop hardening:


At the place I work they have heat treat ovens. They are heated to 820 C then quenched in oil. I think my mistake was to have them tempered after that which softened them up again. I will have another one run without the tempering and see how things go. I do thank you for the information as I will keep that in mind but I am limited to the processes that they have in place as they are run with steel gears.

[Apples1]

DO you sell props as well as prop works? i need a couple

[egneg]

Sorry I am not a supplier I order them from someone just as you do.

[Apples1]

Cheers, thought it was worth a shot...

[z400]

Ive got a Prather Stainless 220 im going to need to get balanced and sharpened.

[Jesse J]

Sent of my shipment today, 12 props that I don't have time to work on. Thanks Chuck, I was waiting for somebody to offer this great service.

Cheers,
Jesse

[egneg]

Ive got a Prather Stainless 220 im going to need to get balanced and sharpened.

I can do it and sent you a PM.

[egneg]

Sent of my shipment today, 12 props that I don't have time to work on. Thanks Chuck, I was waiting for somebody to offer this great service.

Cheers,
Jesse


I will let you know when they get here Jesse.

[Meniscus]

Just a recommendation here...

Egneg (Chuck) does great work and is great to deal with! If you're thinking of trying some of his services, I highly recommend. Don't delay! While he's offering his valuable time, take advantage and I guarantee you won't be disappointed! :thumbup1:

[Gerwin Brommer]

Not meant as critics , but : why do I never see the trailing-edge worked ?
(the only person I know of doing so is Andy Brown)
Don't they have to be very sharp aswell ?
Lots of tuned props have rounded trailing edges, due to the polishing............

Ps : I like the Octura 642 a lot ! , the edges on this one look great

[egneg]

I always sharpen the trailing edge as this is standard procedure. I guess that I should have mentioned it but it was an oversight on my part.Thanks for bringing that up Gerwin!

[Flying Scotsman]

Chuck (Evil Slade), what is your opinion on a highly polished finish??? As there seems to be no documented proof, pro or con?

Douggie

[egneg]

My opinion is that it is personal preference since the of use of BL motors are now the mainstream. At 30,000 rpm and up I don't see how the finish can make that much of a difference unless you are racing where milliseconds count. As to any proven documentation I have not seen any. I asked the very same question some time back with no valid response. Although I have noticed that all the gas/nitro guys I have watched all have have polished props.

Edit: After thinking about this a bit more I am sure that the rougher the finish the harder the motor/esc have to work to maintain the same rpm.

[Flying Scotsman]

Chuck, stop thinking. The gas boys are old school like me and we say it worked for me back in 1969 :unsure:

Douggie

[egneg]

Put a piece of glass next to a sheet of 600 grit paper. Sprits both with equal amounts of water. Now drag your finger across both and tell me in which case your finger moves easier. It depends on the application. Do you need the hole shot or do you need endurance.

[Flying Scotsman]

Put a piece of glass next to a sheet of 600 grit paper. Sprits both with equal amounts of water. Now drag your finger across both and tell me in which case your finger moves easier. It depends on the application. Do you need the hole shot or do you need endurance.

There lies the Catch 22 question

Douggie

[DISAR]

May I ask what do you use as balancer?

How much is the cost for
a) X648 - sharpen-balance-detongue
b) X447/3 - sharpen-balance-detongue

[egneg]

I have 2, the Dubro Tru-Spin and the Kintec magnetic balancers. I use the tru-spin to start and finish with the kintec. As for the prices on the props that depends on whether you send them or if I buy them for you. So I need a bit more info first.

[DISAR]

Ok, I will send them to you. The 648 is as bought, the 447/3 has a bit of sharpening and balancing but I'am not sure. You will know better. But for both of them, I want them detounged. Please also advise time required. Thanks

[egneg]

Disar I sent you a PM>

[sailr]

regarding polishing. There is a school of thought that NOT polished works better because there is less capillary action of the water to the prop (sticking). This is the same theory as roughing up the bottom of the hull so it doesn't "stick" to the water.

I have no idea if it's valid to apply the same theory to props but worth some more discussion.

[Jesse J]

Hey Chuck, does it cost the customer (us) more if you buy them or if we buy/ship them to you? or is the only difference the cost of double shipping if we send to you?
Thanks,
J

[Flying Scotsman]

regarding polishing. There is a school of thought that NOT polished works better because there is less capillary action of the water to the prop (sticking). This is the same theory as roughing up the bottom of the hull so it doesn't "stick" to the water.

I have no idea if it's valid to apply the same theory to props but worth some more discussion.

Jim, this question has come up many times and I recently asked for anyone who has documented proof for pro or con. No answer, it is still an interesting question, but as always there will be variables...water temperature, degree of polish or roughness..salt water or lake etc.

Douggie

[sailr]

No doubt Douggie! One of my best friends doesn't polish his props and he holds some records and has been a consistent winner over the years. BUT he maybe could have done better with polished. who knows. He always said he balances and sharpens and leaves it at that and that he could never tell any difference if polished or not. He's been known on the scene since the 60's/70's. He just set the Scale Hydro record in Valdosta last week.


Jim, this question has come up many times and I recently asked for anyone who has documented proof for pro or con. No answer, it is still an interesting question, but as always there will be variables...water temperature, degree of polish or roughness..salt water or lake etc.

Douggie

[Meniscus]

We may have a good answer once Egneg and I finally manage to have that meeting with my point of contact who has done props - full size for the military. ;)

[egneg]

Hey Chuck, does it cost the customer (us) more if you buy them or if we buy/ship them to you? or is the only difference the cost of double shipping if we send to you?
Thanks,
J

Jesse I only charge for the work I do. I have had a couple of folks ask if they can order from OSE and have them delivered to me, I have ordered props from OSE for folks, and some like you have sent me props they already have. I only add the actual cost of the prop and shipping. If I order the props sometimes I will add a couple of popular ones to have on hand then prorate the shipping.

Chuck

[Gary]

OK Chuck I need your address to send you a M645 prop. It will be cut down to size and i need more cup added. Let me know.

[riverside4]

Just received my props back from Chuck and must say they look great (cant wait to try them this weekend) All i can say is Chuck is very professional and great to work with would recommend to all in need of prop service A+++++ :beerchug:

Rick

[B-DAWG]

pm'ed

[egneg]

pm'ed


PM answered.

[Jesse J]

Chuck, I just got my 12 props back from your masterful attention and all I can say is GIVE ME WATER! can't wait to get them spinnin wet.

I will have another order for you soon, well worth the money for a superior job and very professional packing job; each prop in its own little envelope with its name on it then bubble wrapped, great job. I highly recommend your services.

Jesse

[knpc]

Sent PM

[egneg]

Sent PM

Kevin I replied to your PM

[bustitup]

got mine back today x645....awesome difference in appearance......its going on the 7xl Titan 40 for a rematch..cant wait

thanks

[egneg]

Glad you like it and I hope it performs as well as you want it to.

[GimpyGolden]

Do you have any X430 or X432's kickin around?
I'd like you to do one of each for the Velocity Mono I'm going to buy.
Thanks

[6S HYDRO]

How much for 2 s&b x640's you provide

[Jesse J]

Just got another batch back from the master, thanks Egneg!! Waaaait a minute, is your user name your last name backwards? or am I just slow to catch the boat?

Got all props, very professionally packaged in their original little baggies stapled back in, very cool! Can't wait to get em wet!

Thanks again,
J

[egneg]

Glad they got there ok Jesse.


abou the user name .. Sssssshhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!! :spy:

[egneg]

I am going on vacation. I will have access to the internet but will not be able to work on any props until I get back. Thanks to everyone for the business and I will be back in a week.

Chuck

[Jesse J]

Good to hear you aren't taking any props to work on, true vacations are hard to come by these days --- you deserve it Egneg Rm!

[egneg]

I am back and will respond to all prop requests tomorrow - 7/11/09.

[Christaphason]

We may have a good answer once Egneg and I finally manage to have that meeting with my point of contact who has done props - full size for the military. ;)

I know almost all propellers on ships/work boats are polished, we polish our props just to smooth them out, it may reduce the cavitation burn a prop will receive over time. I will find out at work Monday.

[Tunda]

I sent you a PM...............

[Diegoboy]

Egneg,
How much to S&B raw Prather 215 SS? PM me what you charge!

Thanks!

[Diegoboy]

Thanks for the quick reply Egneg, Sorry I didn't read it earlier!

[tth]

Chuck I have some x447's that I would like to send to you for some of your majik. Detongued and cut down to 45 if you can. You can pm me with further instruction.

Thanks
T. Hatch

[egneg]

Tracy I sent you a PM.

[tth]

Chuck if you don't mind please PM me your addy so I can send the props your way.

Thanks
Tracy Hatch

[spoke2570]

Two cents on the prop finish thing from an airplane freak: Stability of the boundary layer is basically what your talking about here.

At low pressure (front of the prop at during boat acceleration) a bit of roughness will help to stabilize flow. In the air it is so much that for high altitude turbines there is current research into micro-jets in that area of the blade to "recharge" the boundary layer and keep it stuck to the blade.

As the speed of the boat goes up, the pressure on the front of the blade will increase, negating the need for surface turbulence to keep the boundary stable. Good old parasite drag is the villain, and the shiny prop is favored.

NOTE: The back side of the prop is always subjected to higher pressure and will benefit from shininess in all but the slowest moving applications out there (like caving tugs).

pete b

[egneg]

Welcome to the forum Pete. I thank you for your input as I am still learning about fluid dynamics.

[Meniscus]

....

[Meniscus]

....I have a tool that I'm thinking about picking up that you may be interested in :thumbup1:

[blakybob]

I saw a guy roll the edges with the back side of a pair of pliers once. Worked like a charm.

Blake

[wolf IV]

egneg, the x442's r/l you sent me are awesome! can you give ma a price on a x447-r, and a x447- detounged & back cut please :)

[egneg]

I will send you a PM this afternoon - have to got to work now.

[wolf IV]

genge, i found these.. "H-1516/3 3 Blade Left 1.5 x 1.6 40 x 64 .187 $49.00
H-1516/3R 3 Blade Right 1.5 x 1.6 40 x 64 .187 $49.00 " their 40mm. are you familiar with them and isf so could you work them for my application?
http://www.highperformancemodels.com/abc%20props.htm

[wolf IV]

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[wolf IV]

sorry, i misread your post! My mistake! I'll delete my post. I'll delete this one too once you reply. cool, thanks..

[egneg]

genge, i found these.. "H-1516/3 3 Blade Left 1.5 x 1.6 40 x 64 .187 $49.00
H-1516/3R 3 Blade Right 1.5 x 1.6 40 x 64 .187 $49.00 " their 40mm. are you familiar with them and isf so could you work them for my application?
http://www.highperformancemodels.com/abc%20props.htm

Yes and Yes.

[wolf IV]

Cool! Ill order them and see if there ballanced. Ill run them if s/b and see how she does. I will contact you to maybe put a little more cup in them if my set up will handle it. Ill let you know asap. Thanks !!!!

[Colby]

PM you a request for quote.

[teddyboy]

I would like to open a converstation on some prop work. Do you do work to the SS props? How would I get a quote of work to be performed. I have plenty that need attention.

Thank you,

[egneg]

I would like to open a converstation on some prop work. Do you do work to the SS props? How would I get a quote of work to be performed. I have plenty that need attention.

Thank you,

Yes I work on SS props. You can either list them here or send me a PM with what you want done and I will PM you the cost of each prop and shipping.

[teddyboy]

Chuck, I will round up the props and sent you a pm on the types of props and work I would like to see.

Thanks Ted

[ice329]

Just noticed your thread.. your props look good. Reading threw the thread is see a few things... one is sharpning the trailing edge. I am no expert by any means but... most the props i have gotten have so much (swag)(flashing) or excess metal what ever you want to call it, there is no choice but to sharpen it. Some of these props are just really bad with swag/flashing and out of balance pretty bad out of the pack, Some sizes are much better then others. Now the discussion between polished and rough.. well i really do think.... and this comes from tryin it both ways... there pretty darn close.. for eye candy you cant beat the polished prop.. if there was some tool to measure which one had less drag or performed better i would give a slight edge to the polished prop..

[egneg]

Just noticed your thread.. your props look good. Reading threw the thread is see a few things... one is sharpning the trailing edge. I am no expert by any means but... most the props i have gotten have so much (swag)(flashing) or excess metal what ever you want to call it, there is no choice but to sharpen it. Some of these props are just really bad with swag/flashing and out of balance pretty bad out of the pack, Some sizes are much better then others. Now the discussion between polished and rough.. well i really do think.... and this comes from tryin it both ways... there pretty darn close.. for eye candy you cant beat the polished prop.. if there was some tool to measure which one had less drag or performed better i would give a slight edge to the polished prop..

You are totally correct - some props are a breeze while others will give you fits. Now as far as prop finish goes that has always been a controversial subject and more than likely will be for some time to come.

[Boatman]

Chuck, you able to do custom work on some big props yet? I need a set of 470's R&L pitched up and sharpened. Also would like them cut to 468mm as well. message me for details if you are able. Thanks.

Edit, should read... cut to 68mm.

[egneg]

Boatman I sent you a PM

[FE Wannabe]

Chuck I sent you a PM.
Thanks,
Brad

[egneg]

Chuck I sent you a PM.
Thanks,
Brad

Brad, I answered your PM.

[electric]

I need a quote for a x640, x642 and a x440. Purchased from you(meaning you are suppling the props plus finishing work). Thanks.

[egneg]

I need a quote for a x640, x642 and a x440. Purchased from you(meaning you are suppling the props plus finishing work). Thanks.

PM sent with quote.

[forescott]

I just wanted to post a quick reply to say how happy I am with the props I sent chuck to balance & sharpen for me. The props look flawless and work excellent! I am very happy with this service! :thumbup1:

[video200]

could you give me a price for 1 X 645, 1X Prather S215 and 1 X Prather S220
sharpend and balanced. shipped to norway 5914

wont be dooing my shopping til may 10 though

klaus

[ray schrauwen]

I just wanted to post a quick reply to say how happy I am with the props I sent chuck to balance & sharpen for me. The props look flawless and work excellent! I am very happy with this service! :thumbup1:

Is that a 29" cat??

What is in it?

I have an orange one.

[ray schrauwen]

Can I send you a pair of L&R 442's for B S & D/T ?

[egneg]

could you give me a price for 1 X 645, 1X Prather S215 and 1 X Prather S220
sharpend and balanced. shipped to norway 5914

wont be dooing my shopping til may 10 though

klaus

Are the Prather props SS?

[egneg]

Can I send you a pair of L&R 442's for B S & D/T ?

You sure can ... send me a PM with details and I will give you a quote.

[rchippie]

YGPM about a grim prop.

[tiqueman]

Just want to say 'THANKS" to Chuck for doing up 2 beautiful detunged and cupped L and R 442s. They look fantastic and worth every penny. I hope to have the boat back together by Monday or Tuesday.. in effort to break the 70mph mark.

Thanks again Chuck!
-Scott

[video200]

Are the Prather props SS?

Yes they are. I dont think steven have them in bronse but if you order from somewere else the B215 and B220 wil do the same job :smile:

The prathers have S+number for stainless and b+number for bronse.

klaus

[egneg]

All requests have been answered via PM

Video200, I didn't notice the "S" until after I posted.

[teddyboy]

My props arrived yesterday and they look great. I will have to see how they run on the rigger this weekend.

Thank you,

[wizard122]

Hi can any one please tell me about M props also ABC has Chopper and Clever props ?
I'm building a Vac-U-Pickle and will run an Ammo 2300 or a UL-1 motor on 2S2P please help.

[tiqueman]

M props are similar to X series but slightly detongued... Not sure about ABC props. I think Cleaver props generally have more of a rake and a straighter trailing edge, similar to the x or m series.. but I could be completely wrong. Also in the real world of boating, I know that chopper will lift the bow more and cleavers will lift the transom more. Choppers also have more of a rounded tip rather than a point

[wizard122]

Thanks so if I have a motor that doesn't make a lot of torque like a Ammo 2300 maybe a M440 would be a good choice?

[egneg]

The M are detunged X props. The choppers are like 16xx props and the cleavers are like 17xx props. A Prather 215 would be a good choice for the ammo and a M445 for the UL-1 motor.

[wizard122]

Thanks very much

[RXL250]

Chuck-
Thank-you for the prop work. Excellent work, fast shipping and great packaging.

RXL250

[Desert Concrete]

Thank Charles!!! Prop came in yesterday, looks great. Can't wait to get on the water!

[egneg]

Thank Charles!!! Prop came in yesterday, looks great. Can't wait to get on the water!

You are more than welcome and please call me Chuck - Charles sounds way to formal.

[Desert Concrete]

You got it Chuck. I looked at the label on the box to make sure of your name, then after I wrote you I looked at other posts and noticed everyone else called you Chuck. Anyway, thanks again and have a great day.............

[bigwaveohs]

You have a PM

[egneg]

You have a PM

Got it and sent an email.

[bigwaveohs]

You have another PM

[video200]

Props came in today.
looks great and the packaging was terrific. a pleshure dooing business with you chuck :)

[D&D]

OK, my $1.50 on the polish or not to polish a prop. Anyone here know more than the Mercury Racing Team (or any other racing team)? You could shave looking into the mirror finish on their racing props. A smooth surface causes water adherson, just like a glass or, as an example, slicks on a drag car. A rough surface causes areation of the water and that is why we rough up the bottom of the boats. a rounded edge causes water to roll and cause a suction, a sharp corner edge (on the back of a boat, boat step, releases the water cleanly without suction.

If you can still find it, read up on the 3Ms work with Dennis Conor's Americas Cup boat that he won with in Australia.

[D&D]

Opps. I left out a couple of works on this statement "a rounded edge causes water to roll and cause a suction, a sharp corner edge (on the back of a boat, boat step, or the trailing edge of a prop)releases the water cleanly without suction.

[egneg]

Props came in today.
looks great and the packaging was terrific. a pleshure dooing business with you chuck :)

Glad to hear that they got there ok and thank you for the business.

[video200]

with work like that it is my pleshure.
you havent seen the last of me yet ;)

[egneg]

I am sorry if folks think things have been a bit slow lately ... but my daughter is graduating from high school in 2 weeks and I have been inundated with honey-do lists. My wife wants the place to look pristine when the relatives arrive. Thank you for your patience during this time.

Chuck

[chummer]

PM sent for mailing adddress.

[egneg]

Roger I gave you my address in a PM

[FighterCat57]

PM on its way. =)

[Brushless55]

What about some work on my 65x100 Rio 51z prop?

[DINO7]

Hi Chuck.my 440/3 came today...excellent work.will try her tomorrow...thanks again..
Dino..

[egneg]

Hi Chuck.my 440/3 came today...excellent work.will try her tomorrow...thanks again..
Dino..

Glad to hear it got there ok .... enjoy. :biggrin:

[egneg]

What about some work on my 65x100 Rio 51z prop?


No problem ... what do you want done?

[Brushless55]

No problem ... what do you want done?

what about adding pitch to this prop?

[scubasteve95]

what about adding pitch to this prop?
how about adding pitch if poosible to a x440?
OR MAYBE MAKING UP A X640 IN A CR?
maybe asking alot ..... but if it can be done i hear your the
man that can do it.

[egneg]

how about adding pitch if poosible to a x440?
OR MAYBE MAKING UP A X640 IN A CR?
maybe asking alot ..... but if it can be done i hear your the
man that can do it.

I sent you a pm.

[JMSCARD]

Hello.. I am needing a L & R Octura 457's for my boat.... can you give me a quote on a pair of sharpened and balanced counter rotating 457's.... thanks in advance

[egneg]

Hello.. I am needing a L & R Octura 457's for my boat.... can you give me a quote on a pair of sharpened and balanced counter rotating 457's.... thanks in advance

PM sent.

[Prop Nut]

Hi Chuck,

I have 3 Octura props / x447 / x448 / x450. for Fast Electric, that need sharpening and
balancing. would you PM the cost of each prop and shipping ?

Thank You.

-D

[egneg]

Hi Chuck,

I have 3 Octura props / x447 / x448 / x450. for Fast Electric, that need sharpening and
balancing. would you PM the cost of each prop and shipping ?

Thank You.

-D

PM sent

[Prop Nut]

Hi Chuck,
I would like you to do the work. would you PM me with your ship to address and PayPal info. what is the total $ ? do I need to add a PayPal fee ? I will ship the props to you priority mail the day after I receive your reply, if this is OK with you ?

Thank You for the Fast reply.

PS ; egneg has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space. :huh: :doh:

[Tangmo1]

Hi Chuck,

Could you please send me the tracking number?
Thanks,
Tangmo

[scubasteve95]

HAY CHUCK,
just wondering if your back from va-ca?

[egneg]

HAY CHUCK,
just wondering if your back from va-ca?

Yes I am back - sorry I didn't let you know.

[Prop Nut]

Hi Chuck,
I would like you to do the work. would you PM me with your ship to address and PayPal info. what is the total $ ? do I need to add a PayPal fee ? I will ship the props to you priority mail the day after I receive your reply, if this is OK with you ?

Thank You for the Fast reply.

-D

[egneg]

Hi Chuck,
I would like you to do the work. would you PM me with your ship to address and PayPal info. what is the total $ ? do I need to add a PayPal fee ? I will ship the props to you priority mail the day after I receive your reply, if this is OK with you ?

Thank You for the Fast reply.

-D

Sending PM now with info.

[ron1950]

need ya to work some magic on a x642....sharpen ballance general clean up etc.....rates please..pm here or

louville50@aol.com

[ray schrauwen]

I sent a pair of L&R 442's and an extra 442L that was already sharp & bal.

I left instructions inside on prop packages.

Please do your thing to them for Ekos, the extra L442, do same, I want to experiment on a Whiplash, etc...

thanks Chuck

[z400]

Hey Chuck

Have you quit your daytime job yet?
LOL, Keep up the great work man!

[osprey21]

Has anyone heard from Chuck this week? I sent him a message on the 18th and have yet to receive a reply? :confused2:

Maybe he's just swamped with work.

[egneg]

Sorry for the delay in responding but yes, I am swamped in a way. When I started at my current place of employment 3 years ago there were 5 people in my department ... now there is just me.

Chuck

[osprey21]

Understood. Thanks.

[domp444]

When will you be back in business? Or are you already? :)

[egneg]

When will you be back in business? Or are you already? :)

I may have slowed down a bit but I never stopped. I don't have as much time to work on them because of job requirements.

:sorry:

[domp444]

Oh I see! I wasn't sure since there wasn't much activity on the thread.

I would like to know if you could order and S&B a GrimRacer 42x55 prop for me?

[Tangmo1]

Sorry for the delay in responding but yes, I am swamped in a way. When I started at my current place of employment 3 years ago there were 5 people in my department ... now there is just me.

Chuck

That's good news. Your props are great.Thanks

[Dangerous_Toys]

Hey Chuck, send me a price and timeframe of when you can S&B two props, x442 & Y535.

[egneg]

Oh I see! I wasn't sure since there wasn't much activity on the thread.

I would like to know if you could order and S&B a GrimRacer 42x55 prop for me?

Yes, I can do all of the above - PM sent with info.

[egneg]

Hey Chuck, send me a price and timeframe of when you can S&B two props, x442 & Y535.

PM sent with info.

[domp444]

Hi Chuck. I sent you an email but maybe you didn't get it. I would like an x445 prop ordered and S&B, can you please PM me with info?

And I got the 42x55 prop, looks great thanks a lot :)

[ray schrauwen]

Received my props today, very nice work, thank you so much. I hope they can handle 40,000 rpm, :) I might heat treat them.

[tunnelvision]

Hello Chuck,

I have a grim racer 36 x 55 that I need sharpened and balanced. If you have the time please pm me your info on price and shipping. Thank you!

Rob

[tunnelvision]

Chuck,

Got my prop the other day and its awesome!! Thank you for your help!

Rob:rockon2:

[egneg]

Chuck,

Got my prop the other day and its awesome!! Thank you for your help!

Rob:rockon2:

Glad to hear you are satisfied with my work.

Chuck

[nomobux]

Chuck ... sent you a email

[egneg]

Chuck ... sent you a email

Sent a reply.

[nomobux]

Sent a reply.

Thanx ... PP sent

[MOSQUITO6717]

Hello
I would like you to buy Octura x452 and S&B . Can you pleas pm me the info for total price. Thanks

[egneg]

Hello
I would like you to buy Octura x452 and S&B . Can you pleas pm me the info for total price. Thanks

PM sent.

[RIPFENCE]

hi chuck,

i have 2 abc 58.8mm 3 blades on order..can i get a price on b&s including shipping back to me? my zip code is 04210..i should have the blades by the end of next week and then i can ship them to you:thumbup1:

thanks
aaron

[ron1950]

hey chuck i have a v967/3 that is too long for my stubshaft on my 1/8 hydro....do u think u could take a 1/4 inch off the shaft of my prop...maybe have to backcut whatever!!!! let me know ...i pmed you also thanks ron

[syncronized77]

I've got an X642, and a GR L40x57 3 blade that need a good BnS...I'm also currently looking for an M445 and M545. Should I get those first so all can be done in one shot?

[egneg]

I've got an X642, and a GR L40x57 3 blade that need a good BnS...I'm also currently looking for an M445 and M545. Should I get those first so all can be done in one shot?

I would get the others and do them all at the same time as shipping will be the same.

[syncronized77]

Quote:
Originally Posted by syncronized77
I've got an X642, and a GR L40x57 3 blade that need a good BnS...I'm also currently looking for an M445 and M545. Should I get those first so all can be done in one shot


I would get the others and do them all at the same time as shipping will be the same.

Hey,

I actually got the M445 sorted out so I don't need it BnS....but I still have an X640, X642 and the GR L40x57 /3 blade prop that need a good BnS. Can you shoot me a quote on all 3?

Thanks in advance!

[jmsask]

Hi I'm looking for props for a 53" Cat with a little Screamer motor with a 1/4 drive I was told the X455 X457 and a X460 are what Screamers like to run but I cant find them in 1/4 drive. I would like 3 blades do you have any 1/4 drive?
Let me know.
Thanks.
Joe
P.S. I'm in Canada

[egneg]

Hi I'm looking for props for a 53" Cat with a little Screamer motor with a 1/4 drive I was told the X455 X457 and a X460 are what Screamers like to run but I cant find them in 1/4 drive. I would like 3 blades do you have any 1/4 drive?
Let me know.
Thanks.
Joe
P.S. I'm in Canada

The smallest X series 3 blade prop in 1/4 drive is a X470/3. Either you will need to switch to a 3/16 drive or have them cut down quite a bit which will about double the cost - it's your call.

[jmsask]

Do you know if it will work on my boat or is it to much prop? I'm new to boats.
Joe

[Chilli]

How about one of these?

http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/proddetail.php?prod=hug-b8666sp

[jmsask]

I don't know if it will stand up to a screamer?

[egneg]

I think what Chilli suggests is probably your best bet.

[jmsask]

I could turn the one I have down to fit. I have access to a lathe and know how to use it. It would save looking for 1/4 props??
Joe

[egneg]

I could turn the one I have down to fit. I have access to a lathe and know how to use it. It would save looking for 1/4 props??
Joe

yes - but you would also have to rethread the drive shaft to a 10-32.

[jmsask]

yes - but you would also have to rethread the drive shaft to a 10-32.

That would be no problem. I should have thought about it before.......doh:confused1:
I can use everything I need at our shop.

[egneg]

That would be no problem. I should have thought about it before.......doh:confused1:
I can use everything I need at our shop.

Sounds like you have things covered. I will send you a PM with a break down on costs.

[jmsask]

Sounds like you have things covered. I will send you a PM with a break down on costs.

I have a few props now X440/3 X450 1455/3 and a ABC H31. I know that the H31 I cant use but could I use the 1455? If I can use any in place of the ones I asked about it would save me some $?
Joe:confused2:
I am new to boats.... you most likely figured that out buy my questions...Lol

[video200]

hi chuck.
if i have undestood this right a M prop is only a X prop with the tunge cut off.
if so. how much to make a s\b M642 for me ?
klaus

[egneg]

hi chuck.
if i have undestood this right a M prop is only a X prop with the tunge cut off.
if so. how much to make a s\b M642 for me ?
klaus

Klaus you are right I will PM you a price including IFR.

[jmsask]

Hi Chuck. I'm in need of twin props R/LHR X447 or K45 or any three blade props I can get. It's for a 32" Skunk Cat with twin CC1520's 6S. Do you have any for sale? If there is something else you think will work or work better can you let me know.
I still need X455 ,7, 60.
Thanks Joe
:thumbup::beerchug:

[dreamland s4]

are there any videos on how to sharpen and balance props? i think twisted liquid had some posted on youtube till he started having a bad reputation something about liking little boys and robbing people etc :/

anyways i really do not want to pay someone else to sharpen and balance my prop cuz that takes the fun away from rc boating.....i have the prop and balancer.......i just want to see how someone does it.....i couldnt find not ONE video on how to do this work.....if someone has a link that teaches or atleast shows a liitle on doing a prop PLZZZZ shoot me the link.....

thanks......

[egneg]

are there any videos on how to sharpen and balance props? i think twisted liquid had some posted on youtube till he started having a bad reputation something about liking little boys and robbing people etc :/

anyways i really do not want to pay someone else to sharpen and balance my prop cuz that takes the fun away from rc boating.....i have the prop and balancer.......i just want to see how someone does it.....i couldnt find not ONE video on how to do this work.....if someone has a link that teaches or atleast shows a liitle on doing a prop PLZZZZ shoot me the link.....

thanks......

Here is a good place to start for information ...
http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/info.php#Propeller_Tips_&_Info_
There is a lot more information out there and I will more than happy to to PM you the links. But you are right about the videos ... I don't think I have ever heard of one.

Chuck

[dreamland s4]

Here is a good place to start for information ...
http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/info.php#Propeller_Tips_&_Info_
There is a lot more information out there and I will more than happy to to PM you the links. But you are right about the videos ... I don't think I have ever heard of one.

Chuck

its crazy how there are tooonssss of airplane videos but not ONE video that truly sheds light on how to do rc boat prop work......:confused2:

there are a few videos of guys just spinning the prop on the balancing shaft. ooooh how preeetttyyy lol.....thanks for the link ill be on my way....:beerchug:

[jmsask]

Hi Chuck. I'm in need of twin props R/LHR X447 or K45 or any three blade props I can get. It's for a 32" Skunk Cat with twin CC1520's. Do you have any for sale? If there is something else you think will work or work better can you let me know.
I still need X455 ,7, 60.
Thanks Joe
:thumbup::beerchug:

??????????

[egneg]

??????????

Hi Joe, Sorry I missed this post the first time. I can get the X447's L/R and work them for you. I am not sure what you mean by a X455,7,60 :confused1:

[Chilli]

I think he means X455, X457, X460

I order some props from Steve. I'll let you know when they arrive.

[egneg]

I think he means X455, X457, X460

I order some props from Steve. I'll let you know when they arrive.

That could very well be Mike ... I seem to make things much harder than they are. :confused1:

[Chilli]

Well apparently you were'nt the only one.:beerchug:

[jmsask]

I think he means X455, X457, X460

I order some props from Steve. I'll let you know when they arrive.

Correct.. I had asked about them in a early post.
Joe

[jmsask]

Correct.. I had asked about them in a early post.
Joe

Do you have any of them if not OSE has them I will order there?
Joe:beerchug:

[egneg]

Yes I can get them and do the work. I am just a regular guy doing this on the side so I don't keep raw blades on hand.

[jmsask]

Yes I can get them and do the work. I am just a regular guy doing this on the side so I don't keep raw blades on hand.

No problem let me know how much to send you PP to get started.
Joe:thumbup:

[jmsask]

PP sent for props. I ate the PP fee's.
J

[egneg]

PP sent for props. I ate the PP fee's.
J

Payment received and props have been ordered.

Chuck

[LaMoparPower]

just out of curiosity, whats the turn around time approximately.....

Thanks!

[egneg]

just out of curiosity, whats the turn around time approximately.....

Thanks!

Due to the holidays and cold weather (I do props in the garage) I have been a bit backed up. Rest assured props will be sent out in the next week.

Chuck

[ron1950]

chuck i need a price on a left and a right hand x442...u get em....thanks ron

[johnson22456]

Hi chuck, can you give me a price on a set of x447's left and right. I need them s&b, detounged, cupped, and polished. There for a 115 hpr. Wanting this set for speed runs.

[egneg]

Hi chuck, can you give me a price on a set of x447's left and right. I need them s&b, detounged, cupped, and polished. There for a 115 hpr. Wanting this set for speed runs.

I will get figures and send you a PM.

Chuck

[johnson22456]

Pp sent.

[egneg]

Payment received and I will order the props - thanks.

Chuck

[jmsask]

PP sent for props. I ate the PP fee's.
J

Any news on my props?
Joe:thumbup:

[LaMoparPower]

Any news on my props?
Joe:thumbup:

I was wondering the same on mine... paid 1/4/11... Also, may need another 445 since im building a twin... opposite rotation...

[egneg]

Any news on my props?
Joe:thumbup:

The props will go out this week. Sorry for the delay but I had an order for 16 props and first come first done.

Chuck

[egneg]

I was wondering the same on mine... paid 1/4/11... Also, may need another 445 since im building a twin... opposite rotation...

The props will be done this week. I had a large order for 16 props and first come first done. 445's only come left handed.

[egneg]

At my day job more time will be required of me in the near future due to the fact they will be re-arranging all the machines in the plant. I will no longer be accepting new prop work for the next few months. I appreciate all the business that I have had and plan to do more as time allows. Thanks for the support and I hope you all are happy with the work I have done to date.

Chuck

[johnson22456]

Well that sucks.

Glad I got my order in.

Good luck with all the ot at your real job, better busy then slow.

[seedoobob3]

hey sailr, scuffing to bottum of a hull retains little bubbles of air so to speak, water flows easier over air than solid serface, air bubbles on prop at speed causes boiling(cavatation)not good, or so I've been told

[LaMoparPower]

The props will be done this week. I had a large order for 16 props and first come first done. 445's only come left handed.

cool deal... just was keeping track!:thumbup1:

[video200]

prop came in today. looks great as usual :)
thank you chuck

[forescott]

Chuck, the pic in your avatar and the signature under your username doesn't instill much confidence in your abilities. :laugh:

[egneg]

Chuck, the pic in your avatar and the signature under your username doesn't instill much confidence in your abilities. :laugh:

The prop looks much worse in real life! :doh:

It was sent to me to see if it could be saved - I said only if it was cut down to a much smaller size.

[jmsask]

The props will go out this week. Sorry for the delay but I had an order for 16 props and first come first done.

Chuck

No news yet? It has been awhile.
Joe

[egneg]

No news yet? It has been awhile.
Joe

I am sorry for the delay but I have very little free time as of late. You are next in line but I will give you the option of getting the raw props which I have already purchased ( what you paid for). I can send you the raw props or I can do the work - the choice is yours.

Again I am sorry for the delay.

Chuck

[jmsask]

I am sorry for the delay but I have very little free time as of late. You are next in line but I will give you the option of getting the raw props which I have already purchased ( what you paid for). I can send you the raw props or I can do the work - the choice is yours.

Again I am sorry for the delay.

Chuck

I understand your very busy. I will wait for you to get to them. Thanks for letting me know that I'm next in line.
Joe:beerchug:

[jmsask]

I am sorry for the delay but I have very little free time as of late. You are next in line but I will give you the option of getting the raw props which I have already purchased ( what you paid for). I can send you the raw props or I can do the work - the choice is yours.

Again I am sorry for the delay.

Chuck

Payment sent for your hard work...
I look forward to spring...........BS.... I CANT WAIT FOR SPRING!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Winter up here is to long Nov to April and it's been -25 to -45 for two weeks.
WILL IT EVER END??????????:crying::unsure:

Thanks again... I will get more later:beerchug:
Joe Musty
Annaheim,SK
Canada

[Chilli]

Recieved my props from you today. Chuck well worth the wait!!!! :bowdown:

I'm really itching to get on the water now!!!

[Accordnut]

Are you still doing props I'm wondering for a x646/3 cut down to 642 s&b?

[egneg]

Yes I am still doing props but I am backed up and it will be at least 4 weeks before I get to it. I do them in the order that I get the props or payment to buy them.

Chuck

[Meniscus]

If you decide to go with Chuck, I have an aluminum X646/3 cut down, measuring 42mm. However, I would need it back once you receive yours from Chuck. Please note that mine is aluminum and would likely bend under extreme load if it is a large hull or a lot of weight.

Once Chuck has confirmed your order, I can get this prop out to you as a "loaner"

[johnson22456]

Nevermind...

[srislash]

Are you still pretty backed up?I'm looking to have a few props done for the MG.

[egneg]

Are you still pretty backed up?I'm looking to have a few props done for the MG.

Yes, I have customers that have been patiently waiting for quite some time now. I am not taking any new business until I get these folks taken care of.

Chuck

[srislash]

Cool no rush,I'll keep an eye on the thread.Thanks,Shawn

[ecoovert]

I know what it means to remove the flashing, to sharpen and polish a prop but what does it mean to detongue and back cut? I've been running rc boats for a while and I sharpen and balance my own props but this question always eludes me.

[G-UNIT]

Just my 2cents worth, check this out.
http://www.rcprops.com/TechNotes/rcprop_tech_info.htm.

As far as rounding the trailing edge I've haven't seen this in any reserch I've done so far, all I read is to leave the trailing edge square, this helps to throw the water off the prop.
if you want to change the the rake of the prop then this is done on the trailing edge but still left square.
JMO.

[egneg]

Detongue means to remove the forward section of the prop. Back cut means to remove a bit of the trailing edge near the hub and taper it to the leading edge. This diagram should help ...

http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/info-pages/propeller-diagram.php

[ecoovert]

Thanks egneg,

If that's so wouldn't detounging the prop reduce the pitch? How would this make the boat go faster? Is this only the case if the motor you are using is having trouble swinging that size of a prop or a prop with that much pitch? If your motor can swing the prop at close to its kv rating for the amount of cells you are using minus the efficiancy loss of the motor is detounging needed? Is back cutting done for the same reason? I'm not trying to say you are wrong but rather want to know before I go detounging or back cutting my props.

Thanks again.

[egneg]

Thanks egneg,

If that's so wouldn't detounging the prop reduce the pitch? How would this make the boat go faster? Is this only the case if the motor you are using is having trouble swinging that size of a prop or a prop with that much pitch? If your motor can swing the prop at close to its kv rating for the amount of cells you are using minus the efficiancy loss of the motor is detounging needed? Is back cutting done for the same reason? I'm not trying to say you are wrong but rather want to know before I go detounging or back cutting my props.

Thanks again.

Detongueing adds pitch as this area has the lowest pitch on average. This will help with maximum speed. Pitch is progressive from the tongue to the trailing edge. The tongue being the lowest and the trailing edge being the highest. Back cutting will lower the overall pitch by removing some of the area with the highest pitch. This will help to unload the motor. Hope this helps.

Chuck

[ecoovert]

Detongueing adds pitch as this area has the lowest pitch on average. This will help with maximum speed. Pitch is progressive from the tongue to the trailing edge. The tongue being the lowest and the trailing edge being the highest. Back cutting will lower the overall pitch by removing some of the area with the highest pitch. This will help to unload the motor. Hope this helps.

Chuck

Thanks Chuck,

[ecoovert]

Thanks for your help.

[JPriami]

I sent you a PM about a prop pair last night. let me know

[ecoovert]

Sorry Justin but for the life of me I can't seem to figure out how to read my PMs. I'm still having problems navigating this site.

[JPriami]

That post was in regards to a PM I sent egneg about some prop stuff.

[ecoovert]

The info was helpful but what gets me is why they put tongues on props in the first place of this makes a prop slower.

[tiqueman]

If my education on the subject was correct, tongue is for the lower part of your rpm band, holeshot etc. May even help get you out of a corner faster and from my most recent discovery, detonged props aren't always faster. I lost speed on a twin I did... maybe the size or design of the boat needed that blade area?

[ecoovert]

Thanks tiqueman, I guess until I get two of the same prop I won't detongue any of my props. I did manage to get around 65mph. with a 4042 prop using a Tacon 4074 2150kv motor on 6s. All I did was balance, sharpen and polish my prop. I think I had the boat well dialed in and did a 600' measured distance from a standing start in 6.5 seconds. Taking the standing start into account I'm sure my max. speed must have been 65mph.

[ENCORE MAN]

Yes, I have customers that have been patiently waiting for quite some time now. I am not taking any new business until I get these folks taken care of.

Chuck
Hi Chuck, I am wanting to purchase 2 ABC H5 props S/B. Please contact me with price and approximate delivery date. Thanks BG

[egneg]

Hi Chuck, I am wanting to purchase 2 ABC H5 props S/B. Please contact me with price and approximate delivery date. Thanks BG

PM sent

[Scamp73]

I have a Prather B220 that needs S&B. Can you give me an idea of price? TKS

[Diegoboy]

Guys,
I just left Chucks house (Egneg) At his request, I am closing his thread. His new employment has taken so much of his free time, that the only way to keep up with the demand is to cut into his sleep time. Those of you that still have orders with him will still have your orders completed, but he can no longer accept any new orders.

Please do not send him PM's asking for prop work.

Thank you Chuck for the years of quality service you've provided us.