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Darin Jordan
03-07-2009, 08:24 AM
I'm getting ready to test a motor that looks like it is going to have some potential. It's a LOSI 1/8 Xcelorin Brushless Motor. The one I have here is 2100KV. They also make one in 1700KV and in 2400KV. The 2100KV version would be similiar to a Neu 1515 1Y. I'd like to try the 2400KV, but I'll be using this on an 3.5cc sized outboard, and I don't thing the .150 shaft would handle the RPMS of the 2400KV version for very long.

Very nicely made unit. Has an 8mm shaft that is turned down to 5mm at the output. Shaft is a little long and I had to cut it down by about 1/4" to get it to fit my other apps.

Endbells have two sets of mounting screws set at 1"... standard 3mm screws, and a set of 4mm screws. I ended up using the 4mm here to get the wire tabs to line-up correctly.

Motor is a 4-pole, 12-slot design, and it the same diameter as a Neu 1515, so the OSE water jackets for Neu fit fine. You have to take out one set of endbell screws to get them on, but they fit perfectly.

The mass of the motor is about 30grams less than the Neu (309g vs. 340), but after looking it over, I think that's due to the outter can construction, which is thinner on the LOSI. That MAY mean, however, that there is more room inside for magnets/windings???

I'm going to try it first on a 30" P-OPC Tunnel that I'll be racing at the Northwest Tunnel Championships in April in an Open class. I should be testing it on the water in a week or so. I'll report back once I have some data to report.


Here are the specs for the 2100KV version I have here:



Specifications for 2100 Kv Xcelorin Sensorless Motor (LOSB9422):
Sensorless Construction: Yes
Number of Poles: 4
Rotor Magnet: Sintered
RPM @ 11.1V: 23,310
RPM per Volt: 2100
Power (W): 1900
Efficiency: 86%
Weight: 10.8 oz (306 g)
Length: 2.64” (67mm) *less shaft length
Diameter: 1.54” (39mm)
Shaft: 0.197” (5mm)
Shaft length: 0.92” (23.4mm)
Precision Ball Bearings
Compatible with 2S - 5S LiPo batteries, 6 - 12 cells


Features
Powerful, 670-sized brushless motor
No motor maintenance required
Precision motor ball bearings for smoother operation
Sintered Neodymium rotor
Longer run times
Product Specifications
Type:Brushless

Size:670

RPM:23,310(@11.1V)

RPM/Volt (Kv):2100

Cells:2S-5S LiPo, 6-12 cells NiMh

Weight:10.8 oz (306 g)

Overall Diameter:1.54 in (39mm)

Shaft Diameter:0.197 in (5mm)

Shaft Length:0.92 in (23.4mm)

Overall Length:3.56 in (90.4mm)

Darin Jordan
03-07-2009, 08:25 AM
Here are a few more shots...

The first water jacket is the OSE 1512-1515 sized (2.20"), which JUST fits between the endbell screws. The one I am using on the tunnel is the 1506-1509 size, because the lower part of the motor doesn't have enough clearance on the outboard mount to fit the 1515 jacket. Not that big of a deal, since it's out there exposed to the spray anyhow...

This thing has HUGE bearings!

Can't wait to try it out.

calcagno45
03-07-2009, 09:09 AM
I'va heard of good success with these motors in the trucks, which is the intended market. They are a few bucks cheaper than Neu's as well.

I hope to hear good results Darin!

crrcboatz
03-07-2009, 02:15 PM
I have the 1700v in a losi 4wd truck and it is absolutely too much to handle on a softball field!! It is geared up a little but on 4c1p maxpowers it will scare you. I got it and another losi in a trade for a hpi baja and a bunch of maxpower lipos. Anyway it has the matching Losi high output esc too. Never thought about using it in a boat. This will be nice to watch!:buttrock:

Ub Hauled
03-07-2009, 04:32 PM
Everything was looking good until I read it's 86% efficiency... that is a bit low Darin, it probably heats up quite a bit... I have looked at that motor before, just didn't have an application for it at the time... will follow your results though.

Darin Jordan
03-07-2009, 05:05 PM
We'll see... Something tells me that, if other motors actually LISTED their efficiency, this would stack up just fine... Only one way to find out...

The Neu 1515 series are rated at 90+... All of the other smaller Neus are rated at 85-87%... This one is right in the ballpark... It's definately not going to build up too much heat hanging off the back of the boat with water cooling...

I'll get some real numbers and we'll see...

icelert
03-07-2009, 06:51 PM
I'll be interested in your results as well. 2400kv's in a 4S hydro sounds like a fantastic possibility!

Darin Jordan
03-07-2009, 06:53 PM
I'll be interested in your results as well. 2400kv's in a 4S hydro sounds like a fantastic possibility!

I agree and I would have tried it, but there is a limit to what a 3.5cc lower unit can handle, so I thought I'd back it down a hair.

If this works, I've already been getting a 7.5cc unit lined up, which will have a .187" shaft in it... Then we can turn some Rs... ;)

LuckyDuc
10-03-2009, 10:15 PM
Did you ever test this motor out? I've been contemplating the 2400kv version for a whiplash 20.