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PiroSteel
09-27-2019, 04:46 AM
Hi,


We had the last FE Naviga World Championships in Italy on 01-10.08.2019.



You can see some pictures about here:
​https://photos.app.goo.gl/EuU8UYan2y9t23xC7



It's very important in 2020. we can run in all FE categories only with Limiter Electronics. :olleyes:




Mini Eco, Mini Mono, Mini Hydro with 21 Wh

Mono-1, Hydro-1, Eco Expert with 60 Wh

Mono-2, Hydro-2 with 120 Wh

FSR-E with 180 Wh


The Mono-2 is similar with P-Mono category but the running time is here 6 Min with 120 Wh (about 5400 mAh from your bigger LiPo)



Thanks

PiroSteel
10-01-2019, 04:41 AM
Hi,

Here is my Mini Mono with the mlm Limiter in the inside of the boat.

Thanks

NativePaul
10-02-2019, 06:35 PM
Limiters are still optional for the mini classes, and it is just as well, I'm jealous of the room you have in your Mini Mono, I can barely fit a MLM limiter in my mini hydro with shortened wires and 3.5mm connectors, I think if they pick any other limiter/connector combination for the hat system I will have to run a limiter for local races and buy underweight batteries for Naviga races.
166675
You might be interested in this Mini Mono, it is barely recognisable now as it has been cut and shut so much, but it started off as one of your Joker Eco boats and runs beautifully as a stepped mini mono. It is pictured here running at a UK SAWs event but it is great on the oval too.

T.S.Davis
10-02-2019, 07:21 PM
Naviga doesn't race anything we race in IMPBA or NAMBA.

PiroSteel
10-03-2019, 03:27 AM
It's just information from Future


Yes with minis the limiter is still optional but it will come as well because it does't matter if you take with you 115g 1900mAh 20C or 175g 2200mAh 80C + 27g limiter. (at the top of this category you fight for every gramme in the build)


At the moment it's easier and thought for beginners.


I love your mini mono design It reminds me of some grotesque Englander cars at Goodwood

Thanks

NativePaul
10-03-2019, 01:01 PM
Not my design, just my photo. Design credit goes to you and James Bond.

PiroSteel
10-03-2019, 03:53 PM
Design credit goes to you and James Bond.

That's now the deep american style again, from you Paul

Doug Smock
10-03-2019, 09:43 PM
Where can a guy go check out the limiter?

dethow
10-03-2019, 10:09 PM
Where can a guy go check out the limiter?

http://www.mlmsolutions.biz/elim.php

PiroSteel
10-04-2019, 03:16 AM
Where can a guy go check out the limiter?

Hi Doug,

This info to read from Naviga homepage:

(It's from Walter Geens Section leader)

Time for some figures in regard to the last WC:
In total 248 people participated with 518 boats registered (not including the Team boats). In total 171 limiters were registered, divided into 76 eLim, 72 KLW, 17 MDLE-4 and 6 TSS limiters. 171 registered limiters were registered to 89 individuals (several people have more than 1 limiter in use) but also knowing that I made about 70 class changes for people who use the limiter in more than 1 class, and 79 boats of the 518 registered boats do not use a limiter (F1 and F3 classes) then the conclusion is that for the first highest-level competition almost half the boats (even slightly more than half) were equipped with a limiter. Hence off course the decision to go that way only in the future. A massive thanks to all who showed the trust and vision to go that route!
Not a single case of ‘trying to cheat the system’ took place, all seals were intact at all times, and all values remained correct at all times. Now off course comes the time to fine-tune the check-up system so that by the next big event the procedure of checking and sealing becomes a routine, and rules out any form of cheating to give everybody the same fighting chance!


Walter

HTVboats
10-04-2019, 09:53 AM
http://www.mlmsolutions.biz/elim.php

Good information. The price is 75 pounds sterling or $92.15 at todays exchange rate. I did not see a larger unit listed as this one is for 100 amps. One year warranty.
Mic

NativePaul
10-04-2019, 04:25 PM
All the racing we use limiters for is either racing for 6 minutes on 1p or 15 minutes on 2p so 100A is plenty, and any higher would be adding unnecessary size and weight, which is a big deal to us, as with limited power the boat's efficiency is very important.

Steve Neu and SM Modelbau make Power and energy limiters capable of higher amp draws for F5D pylon racers and F5B glider racers, that would be much more suitable for NAMBA/IMBRA/AMPBA sprint racing.

Joseph, there's nothing American about me or Jim, we are both from the south of England.

PiroSteel
10-09-2019, 04:14 AM
Hi,

Here is a movie about Eco Expert Finale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6LcAhY-VBI&feature=youtu.be




You can hesitate about, it's a technical sport to produce adrenaline or just toys for big boys.

(I mean after my experience that the water was clear, difficult and hard for all)

PiroSteel
10-11-2019, 04:36 AM
YOU can watch HERE (https://www.sportoutdoor.tv/tv/blu_sport/2019/1181_blu_sport_episodio_23?fbclid=IwAR0IdG2akEEviz _d4HyV85P9hkMBTAkxq_AqN3KFxknPVHksJafuUFZ7tts) also two reportage about this World Championship

:thumbup:

Brushless55
02-18-2020, 12:22 PM
Limiters are still optional for the mini classes, and it is just as well, I'm jealous of the room you have in your Mini Mono, I can barely fit a MLM limiter in my mini hydro with shortened wires and 3.5mm connectors, I think if they pick any other limiter/connector combination for the hat system I will have to run a limiter for local races and buy underweight batteries for Naviga races.
166675
You might be interested in this Mini Mono, it is barely recognisable now as it has been cut and shut so much, but it started off as one of your Joker Eco boats and runs beautifully as a stepped mini mono. It is pictured here running at a UK SAWs event but it is great on the oval too.

Why do you need a limiter?

PiroSteel
02-18-2020, 12:43 PM
Hi Caterpillar, That's very simple: finally, all you have the exactly same energy level to could run until 6 Min (at FSR-E class 15 Min).

1 pcs pack is enough for 3 seasons

PiroSteel
02-19-2020, 06:02 AM
Of course, it can be more simple still without limiter in the MINI classes for beginners and juniors

:wink: