New Geico 36 zelos

[Zzoom]

Thoughts on new Geico zelos, are the upgrades worth the extra price

[Chevoholic]

Wicked looking boat!Also has a different canopy than the Zelos. ( no scoop on the top) Ordered mine today! Says it will do 75+mh on 6s. Looks to be very stable.165364 mine arrived yesterday !

[1coopgt]

Looks great . The Hull looks Identical to the Twin 36. Wonder if they made any changes to the hull . Looks like a few upgrades, Extra water pickup, new motors and new strut mounts . 2 thumbs up.

[fweasel]

Looks great . The Hull looks Identical to the Twin 36. Wonder if they made any changes to the hull . Looks like a few upgrades, Extra water pickup, new motors and new strut mounts . 2 thumbs up.

The hull seam has been reinforced around the entire perimeter. Rafael Lopez ran his onto shore at full speed and only suffered a hairline crack across the front bridge. That hull was a preproduction model that did not have as much reinforcement as the production hull does.

Modifications and upgrades include:
MR4000 receiver for longer range
Extended motor mounts with rear support that can also accept 40mm motors
Revised ESC's with larger cap banks & better cooling
ABC 1716 style Props
Water exits now out the top
Sonicwake 3674 motors
Extended struts with support brackets, makes the boat much more stable at speed
"Lots and lots of hull reinforcement too"

[1coopgt]

Nice .

[4343]

I have a question about this new geico 36 inch boat. you can use 2 packs in series than paralled out to both motors, but what will the 2nd set of 2 packs give, you , more run time, so packs total??

[prepered]

You can run 2x3 s but it will not give you full power and runtime will be about half of if you run 4x3s. So 4x3s will be recommend .

[4343]

hi, so you mean by running 4, 3s packs, say the 4 are 5000 mah each, does that mean you will get 6s 10000 mah??

[Bulldog21]

No he is saying run 2x 3s to each motor for 6s 5000mah ln each side. If you want 10000mah you can do 2x 6s 5000mah in parallel to each side but is not recommended

[Erroneous]

Cant wait to hear some feedback on this new setup.

[4343]

what would be the connections for this, if using 2 3s you hook a series up to both packs than parallel to esc, how about the next 2 packs??

[fweasel]

what would be the connections for this, if using 2 3s you hook a series up to both packs than parallel to esc, how about the next 2 packs??

Using the included series/parallel harness, two 3S packs are connected together in series to create 6S voltage, which is then split with the parallel portion of the harness to feed both ESC's 6S voltage. This is not the optimal way to run this boat, but that harness is provided so that those with only two lipo packs are able to run the boat.

The preferred method is to removed the series/parallel harness and run two 6S packs, one to each ESC, or use four 3S packs, connecting two packs together using the option series harness.

[RC Freak 69]

Im new here not sure if this is right place but got my Miss G Zel;os this afternoon one of the drives is all messed up. Need help.

[4343]

so if you connect first 2 packs in series, how is the second set of packs connected than parralled out??

[Bulldog21]

so if you connect first 2 packs in series, how is the second set of packs connected than parralled out??
It’s a cheaper 2 pack setup only useing 2x 3s packs in series then paralleled out to the esc so the both esc receive 6s power without loads of batts. It’s less weight and easier on the wallet but not as good of a set up and the weight of a 4 pack setup helps keep it on the water

[Bulldog21]

Im new here not sure if this is right place but got my Miss G Zel;os this afternoon one of the drives is all messed up. Need help.


What’s wrong with it?

[gohan]

Here ya go...

https://youtu.be/yxKhCWo6NVY

[E36racer]

I just ordered one tonight.

[1coopgt]

Congrates . I've got the 36 twin and the Geico 36 looks bad ass. Post pic's and video when you can.

[prepered]

what went wrong, show some picture it makes it easier to help

[E36racer]

Congrates . I've got the 36 twin and the Geico 36 looks bad ass. Post pic's and video when you can.

Tracking says it will be delivered Thursday.


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[prepered]

Im new here not sure if this is right place but got my Miss G Zel;os this afternoon one of the drives is all messed up. Need help.
What happed to your drive :confused2:

[gohan]

Pulled the trigger. Will be here 6/10/19 Woo Hoo!!

[Chevoholic]

Mine came yesterday, will be running it today. 165392

[fweasel]

And the carnage has begun... (not my boat)

165384

[Chevoholic]

What the heck happened??? 😳

[E36racer]

That’s not a good start for a new boat. Hopefully it was a result of a epic crash and not a manufacturing defect.


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[gohan]

Excellent WARRANTY....Horizon has got this one handled...

[prepered]

And the carnage has begun... (not my boat)

165384

that looks like some pretty pure reinforcement . :Sinking: Does not look any better than the old Zelos :ThumbsDown01:

[1coopgt]

And the carnage has begun... (not my boat)

165384

Damn that sucks .

[gohan]

Video of hull strengthening tips from new geico owner. Very good!

https://youtu.be/4BCDO_oHPMU

[Zzoom]

https://youtu.be/tcJR6DmZ0tc
Not good so far, another video shows more flex in the new one compared to the old one

[Zzoom]

https://youtu.be/zenfDtuOwcY

[jhurlbert]

Just got this boat and so far its sweet. Only thing i have noticed is the same thing that’s happening to my sonicwake, the wires from the esc to motor heat up enough to make the shrink wrap stick together. Im running both boats on 6s. Four batteries in the geico

Also just ordered a couple of sets of some new doctor props 643/3 props

[Zzoom]

It's a sweet boat, can't wait to see some videos

[jhurlbert]

Destroyed my hull today. Hit a parked boat at like 40. Saved it before it sank. Theres 350 down the drain

[Chevoholic]

Destroyed my hull today. Hit a parked boat at like 40. Saved it before it sank. Theres 350 down the drain

Any Pictures, or a video .Just want to see how the hull held up , sorry... 😕

[jhurlbert]

165657 LF impact. whole nose just caved right in. no fixing that

[E36racer]

Crashes suck for sure. Happens sometimes in congested areas.

Here is a mediocre vid of mine today. Not a bad boat, given my current battery situation.

https://youtu.be/iXOg1VxyCVY


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[Chevoholic]

Jhurlbert
Wow! That sucks! I hope U get her back running !

[danthem]

Ran mine today,bone stock-got 81 mph.Excellent and beginner friendly boat.
Had a very relaxing driving experience-good job Proboat+Mr Lopez!

https://youtu.be/rXThMlcLY1o

[jhurlbert]

Taped it all up today. Took her for a couple runs and flipped it. I then noticed my batterie tray came loose. Idk if it was from the accident or from when i flipped it.

It looks like this tray is glued and screwed. I wonder what kind of glue and when do you screw it when installing a new one? I have a new hull on order... i should prob order a new battery tray. Idk if i can get the old glue off the old one or just leave it on and epoxy the remaining glue down ehh... i would like to know how to properly install a battery tray to one of these hulls

[danthem]

The tray for electronics and batts is one piece fixed with 8 screws to the hull,if not cracked you can reuse it in the new hull.

[jhurlbert]

There definitely is like at least an 1/8” thick layer of glue between the hull and tray.The screws dont go into the hull they only go into the glue.

I dont think im going to be able to get the old glue off the bottom of the tray so i ordered a new tray for my new hull.

Now i wonder whats the process of installing a new tray?

[danthem]

Strange,4 metal plates are glued into that hull-check this vid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcJR6DmZ0tc

maybe yours became loose due to the crash ..

[jhurlbert]

Ok cool. Ya i didn't know about the metal plates because i haven't taken it apart yet. I was just looking with the tray still in the boat. 3 out of the 4 plates came un glued.

[jhurlbert]

So i was running my boat today and my rudder stuck hard to one side. I have been getting water in my broken hull when i run the boat. I have it drying out right now to see if that makes a difference. Somethings probably shorting.

Any clue what?

[EddieM41]

The one and only time I had this situation (not this boat)...I was getting water in my receiver. When i placed a balloon over the receiver it fixed the situation. Good luck.

[jhurlbert]

Just swapped receivers with my sonicwake. The problem didn't follow. So its the servo that is the problem.

[E36racer]

I spray everything with CorrosionX and never have issues. It’s great stuff. Back in my nitro days the fuel would eat balloons so I had to get another solution. Been using that stuff ever since.


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[jhurlbert]

Does anyone recommend an upgrade servo? I have no clue what to get other than the stock one witch i guess isn't the greatest. What size and connector type, i guess the stock one in analog..

[E36racer]

Does anyone recommend an upgrade servo? I have no clue what to get other than the stock one witch i guess isn't the greatest. What size and connector type, i guess the stock one in analog..

Anything with metal gears that has the same torque spec as the stock servo. Preferably waterproof so you don’t have to waterproof it yourself


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[jhurlbert]

Would this work?

https://www.offshoreelectrics.com/proddetail.php?prod=hh-hs-646wp

Ose product id hh-hs-646wp

Or this
https://www.offshoreelectrics.com/proddetail.php?prod=pow-dw-25lv

Ose product id pow-dw-25lv

[E36racer]

Either one should be fine


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[Bulldog21]

How did the 643/3 props do? I have a set of abc 2016/3 cut to 43mm by Chris imma try with my zelos when I get the inlay in

[Dalley]

Just purchased Sunday. New Geico 36. (2) 6s1p 45c

Boat was incredibly fast. 2nd run. Flipped at full throttle. Got it to shore and the right flex shaft was broken.

Brought home and put it on the bench to measure and order replacement. I then noticed the deck and hull seam damage, also the chipped sponson. I think torque broke the flex shaft causing the boat to flip at ~75mph
causing the 6S batts to stress break boat at impact. I did not upload pic but the opposite sponson is cracked also.

I will call Horizon tomorrow but I am afraid they will claim I hit something. I do not think I did as there are no visible signs of impact. Either the prop,sponson or rudder. Anyone have an opinion as to the cause? I think the flex shaft broke causing it to flip.

Thanks

[fweasel]

A number of these initial run hulls have already been replaced under warranty for damage very similar to yours. I don't think you have much to worry about.

[Dalley]

Ok thanks I go with Horizon on alot of models because their customer service is excellent. Another question is that as I am new to current FE's capable of +75mph. Should I expect regardless of of make if it flips at speed should I expect to have major damage?

I am very interested in a Zonda also, will it be an issue?

[Revolt Flash]

Ok thanks I go with Horizon on alot of models because their customer service is excellent. Another question is that as I am new to current FE's capable of +75mph. Should I expect regardless of of make if it flips at speed should I expect to have major damage?

I am very interested in a Zonda also, will it be an issue?

Yes, Anything running that speed is very capable of sustaining damage.

[fweasel]

Agreed, things get real when you start flipping and crashing at 70+ MPH. TFL builds a nice hull. The carbon Zonda's are light, but thin and benefit from some reinforcement if all out speed is your goal. The fiberglass version with the carbon/kevlar inlay can still split at the seams. I've seen pictures of that particular hull with air pressure blowout type damage and the inlay just pulled away from the split seam. If you want to go fast, repeatedly, build your boat accordingly.

[Dalley]

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[Dalley]

Update on Geico 36 - Horizon has approved a full warranty replacement!!

Absolutely incredible customer service. Boat is in stock at the local Hobbytown all I have to do is pick up the replacement.

I have purposely tried to support my last standing Hobbyshop in the area vs online and I think they appreciate that.

I'm still not sure sure what caused the failure but believe the flex shaft failed causing the crash. I will lube the new shafts before the next maiden.

[Cinnabun]

Horizon definitely has great customer service. I had an issue with one of the struts on my zelos 36 that caused the boat to hook left hard at wide open throttle and smash into the shore. The zelos 36 is now out of stock so they replaced the boat with the geico version for a $100 fee. I wanted the original model back and requested they rebuild it with a new hull, but apparently the original bulls are not available either.

[Dalley]

Got the replacement. 66.5mph with batteries (6s1p) 90C 2/3 forward. I'm about out of lake but I think I will still get upgraded props.
Temp about 115 on the motors and esc's.

[Mr Zelos]

The hull seam has been reinforced around the entire perimeter. Rafael Lopez ran his onto shore at full speed and only suffered a hairline crack across the front bridge. That hull was a preproduction model that did not have as much reinforcement as the production hull does.

Modifications and upgrades include:
MR4000 receiver for longer range
Extended motor mounts with rear support that can also accept 40mm motors
Revised ESC's with larger cap banks & better cooling
ABC 1716 style Props
Water exits now out the top
Sonicwake 3674 motors
Extended struts with support brackets, makes the boat much more stable at speed
"Lots and lots of hull reinforcement too"

What did you use for the extended struts?

[fweasel]

What did you use for the extended struts?

I didn't use anything. That was a list of improvements/changes made by Proboat between the original Zelos 36 Twin and the new Miss Geico Twin

[prepered]

I didn't use anything. That was a list of improvements/changes made by Proboat between the original Zelos 36 Twin and the new Miss Geico Twin


Lots and lots of hull reinforcement too. :roflol::roflol::roflol:

[fweasel]

Lots and lots of hull reinforcement too. :roflol::roflol::roflol:

That was a direct quote from the manufacturer at the time of release. The initial shipment of hulls seemed to prove otherwise.

[Mr Zelos]

I didn't use anything. That was a list of improvements/changes made by Proboat between the original Zelos 36 Twin and the new Miss Geico Twin

I see. Is there any video you recommend for a carbon /kev inlay? I have started reinforcements. As you can see a battery tray mount failed https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200120/990e177abd45eb4fc0efdc11e213e58f.jpg

[fweasel]

At the very least, drill holes in the middle of that loose tab, and chip away the old epoxy around the edges. You'll get more surface area and a stronger bond when you reattach it to the hull with new epoxy

[Mr Zelos]

At the very least, drill holes in the middle of that loose tab, and chip away the old epoxy around the edges. You'll get more surface area and a stronger bond when you reattach it to the hull with new epoxy

Thanks for the reply

[Screamin Creedmoor]

Just got this boat and so far its sweet. Only thing i have noticed is the same thing that’s happening to my sonicwake, the wires from the esc to motor heat up enough to make the shrink wrap stick together. Im running both boats on 6s. Four batteries in the geico

Also just ordered a couple of sets of some new doctor props 643/3 props

How do those DrProps 643/3's work with your Miss G boat? I have same boat. I am eyeing them as a set, but worry about size, motor/battery heat and etc...please let me know good or bad. Thanks, Mike

[jhurlbert]

Well i like them so far after about 3 runs. I have not made to many top speed passes because i flipped it to many times with stock props (i then trimmed it all the way down and haven't trimmed it back up at all sense. Im a little scared.) i don't think you will be disappointed. Just makes a month or two to get the props. But they are sweet. Mirror finish!

[Panther6834]

Call me crazy, but now I'm thinking about getting one. My first FE was a 'debate' between the ProBoat SonicWake, and the TFL Pursuit. Since the SonicWake was immediately available, that's what I ordered (from Steve). It's a fantastic boat to learn on, and now I'm ready for my second FE (preferably something that's racing-capable. For this, it's been between the Pursuit, and the ProMarine Phantom SV33...unfortunately, neither is currently available, with the SV33 being a "who knows when it'll be available" situation.

Anyway, I'm visiting family in Vegas right now, and, before leaving the SF Bay Area, I found out about an RC lake near the airport, so, I thought I'd stop there before heading to my parents house. When I arrived, there was a guy running his Miss Geico...and, it was running very nicely. When he brought it in, I checked it out. Come to find out, he had just picked it up the day before, and this was his first time running it...and, he couldn't have been happier.

While it probably won't be my 2nd FE (tho, if obtaining either the Pursuit, or SV33, proves 'impossible', that could change), but I'm fairly confident it'll be my 3rd, or 4th.

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