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sjslhill
01-04-2009, 02:26 PM
Reviewing the potential climate temperature scenarios. Temperatures get colder as you go down the list.

1) A cooling similar to that from 1945 to 1978.
2) A cooling similar to that of 1879 to 1916
3) A Dalton minimum type event
4) A Maunder minimum type event

In brief and not all inclusive statements this is how I see those potentials.

1] Due to the way Solar Cycle 24 is behaving and the state of the PDO and the ENSO I think we will be colder than the 1945 - 1978 cooling.

2] If Cycle 24 pans out to be a cycle of moderate or greater activity then the cooling may be similar to this period. However, I think we will be colder. Over one year ago I said that 2008 would be a year of historic numbers of spotless days. I have also stated that 24 will be very weak. Some predict an amplitude as low as 75. I feel that 40- 45 is more realistic.

3] Although not a certainty, a Dalton type event is more and more becoming the most likely scenario. It is uncanny how close the activity of Cycles 22 and 23 have mimicked Cycles 3 and 4 just prior to the Dalton. I currently feel the activity of Solar Cycle 24 will be much like that of Cycle 5.

4] The only way I see us coming close to a Maunder type event is if 24 comes as a total dud and and then Cycle 25 is almost totally inactive as well. Then we might come close to a Maunder type event but would be slightly warmer unless another influence (major volcanic eruption, etc) occurred during the same period.

andym
01-04-2009, 04:18 PM
What the ???????????????????????????????

Doby
01-04-2009, 04:38 PM
What the ???????????????????????????????

:iagree::iagree:

What happened to Solar Cycle 1 through 23????

I didn't know the USA had 2 extra states; PDO and ENSO. Its time to update all the globes and maps I suppose.........

Dalton?? Who is he and what did he do to have an event named after him??

Ditto for Maunder.......

I just confused myself even more now:rofl:

egneg
01-04-2009, 04:47 PM
Have you been reading "My Climate Buzz"?

The next ice age is on the way!

sjslhill
01-04-2009, 09:11 PM
No way, CO2 is going to burn up the planet. everyone needs a sod house and bicycle

AndyKunz
01-05-2009, 08:52 AM
Steve,

CO2?!?!? What about methane? I thought the new kick is cow exhaust, not car exhaust.

Andy

sjslhill
01-05-2009, 09:00 AM
Yes, Cow farts.....you got it. I wonder why God did this to us? LOL

AndyKunz
01-05-2009, 09:55 AM
That's easy: Romans 1:26a and Galations 6:7.

Andy

sjslhill
01-05-2009, 09:59 AM
Very good Andy! I agree

sjslhill
01-05-2009, 10:00 AM
Solar Geomagnetic Ap Index now at lowest point in its record

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/01/04/solar-geomagnetic-ap-index-now-at-lowest-point-in-its-history/#more-4817

Dr. Jet
01-05-2009, 11:22 AM
The sky is falling and we're all going to die. Time to give the government more of our money and allow them more intrusion in our lives in order to solve our climate crisis for us.

:sarcasm1:


Name one thing the government does better than the private sector (other than stealing our money before we ever see it)? And you think this bunch of clowns can fix the weather for us?

:doh:

Put your seatbelts on boys and girls, we are headed for some change (and it will probably take all your change, spare or otherwise).

:glare: