How to Identify a TP Power motor

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  • Crash
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2015
    • 313

    #1

    How to Identify a TP Power motor

    Is there anyway to identify a TP motors KV?

    its 92mm long
    8mm shaft
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  • Crash
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2015
    • 313

    #2
    so I did a bench test to see if I could get a real time rpm measurement

    with the prop and flex shaft disconnected from the motor I am only getting 17900 rpm on 5S that seems really low unless this motor is a 1050kv its suppose to be a 1650kv

    did I do the math rite?

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    • Prodrvr
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2015
      • 701

      #3
      It should be written on the can at the wire end. That's how mine are.

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      • Prodrvr
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2015
        • 701

        #4
        1050Kv on 5s should be 19,425 rpm.

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        • srislash
          Not there yet
          • Mar 2011
          • 7673

          #5
          I get closer to 18,200 for the 1050 but then that would be loaded with good packs. Most of my TP’s do have a KV on them but it is just a small sticker. Perhaps one of those little Watt meters would help

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          • srislash
            Not there yet
            • Mar 2011
            • 7673

            #6
            Originally posted by Crash
            so I did a bench test to see if I could get a real time rpm measurement

            with the prop and flex shaft disconnected from the motor I am only getting 17900 rpm on 5S that seems really low unless this motor is a 1050kv its suppose to be a 1650kv

            did I do the math rite?
            Do you have a voltage for that exact 17,900 time frame? 17,900 divided by voltage should give KV. I assume you are using the ESC to get data?

            And if it is 1650 I’d be using like a 3s pack for full throttle.

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            • fweasel
              master of some
              • Jul 2016
              • 4285

              #7
              The kV is written in pen on a sticker near the end bell and is pretty useless after about a season. I take the stickers off. Which reminds me, I want to start engraving that kV number into the end cap on mine.
              Vac-U-Tug Jr (13mph)

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              • donhuff
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2014
                • 561

                #8
                Here is the setup that I use to check the actual Kv.

                DSC_5833.jpg
                AmpDaddy
                don huff

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                • golfito
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 296

                  #9
                  I am very interested.
                  I ask, disarming the motor to determine if it is a motor with configuration Y (star) or with configuration D (delta). And then you get the internal resistance between two stator terminals. (using the method of circulating a current through the winding under test) R = V / A. Obtain the internal resistance in that way and then compare that value with the manufacturer's RI tables. Can it be viable?

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                  • golfito
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 296

                    #10
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                    Motor Resistance Measurements.jpg


                    If you follow Bruce at RC Model Reviews on youtube, you might have seen this before: I have 4 motors I bought at Flite Fest and when I went down in the beans and forgot to disarm I smoked the ESCs (actually my quad caught fire, it was awesome!) Anyway, I replaced the ESCs at home and fired...

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                    • Speedfreek
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2018
                      • 276

                      #11
                      Originally posted by golfito
                      [ATTACH=CONFIG]162243[/ATTACH]
                      [ATTACH=CONFIG]162242[/ATTACH]
                      [ATTACH=CONFIG]162244[/ATTACH]


                      https://forum.flitetest.com/index.ph...-motors.20346/
                      Stupid question for you, lets say you can have a identical kv in Y and D which one would be better ?
                      MYSTIC 138 119 MPH so far

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                      • golfito
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 296

                        #12
                        I think I understand. Excuse my English.
                        I am a beginner in these subjects. And for what I am reading:
                        I think you should not worry about the type of configuration D or Y to choose an engine to the same KV. Both are very effecient. But you should know what kind of time or progress to use in each type of configuration.

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                        • Speedfreek
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2018
                          • 276

                          #13
                          Originally posted by golfito
                          I think I understand. Excuse my English.
                          I am a beginner in these subjects. And for what I am reading:
                          I think you should not worry about the type of configuration D or Y to choose an engine to the same KV. Both are very effecient. But you should know what kind of time or progress to use in each type of configuration.
                          Ok thanks, so your saying just chose what kv you want and don't worry about if it is a Y or D wind, yes ?
                          MYSTIC 138 119 MPH so far

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                          • golfito
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 296

                            #14
                            Yes.
                            I choose the kv that I consider appropriate.
                            I only take precautions when choosing the timing or progress.
                            I have 7D engines where I use 0 timing. And other 1.5Y engines where I use 11.25 timing.
                            Perhaps the most advanced runners can notice some difference between the Y and the D engines at the same KV number.

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                            • Speedfreek
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2018
                              • 276

                              #15
                              Originally posted by golfito
                              Yes.
                              I choose the kv that I consider appropriate.
                              I only take precautions when choosing the timing or progress.
                              I have 7D engines where I use 0 timing. And other 1.5Y engines where I use 11.25 timing.
                              Perhaps the most advanced runners can notice some difference between the Y and the D engines at the same KV number.
                              Thanks for your input
                              Sorry for the hijacking
                              MYSTIC 138 119 MPH so far

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