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Raydee
08-18-2018, 08:25 AM
My old respirator that I used to paint boat and for prop work is getting a bit old so I am looking for new one. What do you guys think of this one with the filters?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IF7RBS4/?coliid=I1QRIBQ3RDTJR6&colid=2JEAZTELGEOGZ&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009POHH94/?coliid=I2X4VFUUHZDVZM&colid=2JEAZTELGEOGZ&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

ray schrauwen
08-19-2018, 02:33 PM
I use a similar one. My mask needs new filters.

Stillwet
08-19-2018, 05:29 PM
how many people do their work under water?
i know eventually you have to handle it on dry land.
i use a shallow bowl of water for a few strokes and any burrs and the masks i use were from Home Pimple and HF and filters from local body shop. i usually do this outside with my misters on.

Mask # N95
Beryllium and
compounds (as Be)

https://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/639110O/3m-respirator-selection-guide.pdf
https://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/565214O/3m-cartridge-filter-guide-and-brochure.pdf
https://materion.com/-/media/files/corporate/besafetyfacts/sf7-respiratoryprotectionforprocessingberyllium-containingmaterials.pdf
https://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/general/mask-machining-beryllium-copper-246857/
Raydee you'll live forever. i'd double check on the Cartridge filter though.

30nitro
08-19-2018, 07:06 PM
I have always done all my prop work..(Berylium) under water... According to a friend who is a metalurgic...Berylium is very toxic when inhaled as a dust...not so much as a solid....poses no real threat when wet sanded...as long as you have no open wounds on your fingers to allow absorption.....

Hawcer
10-08-2018, 05:24 PM
how many people do their work under water?
i know eventually you have to handle it on dry land.
i use a shallow bowl of water for a few strokes and any burrs and the masks i use were from Home Pimple and HF and filters from local body shop. i usually do this outside with my misters on.



Mask # N95
Beryllium and
compounds (as Be)

https://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/639110O/3m-respirator-selection-guide.pdf
https://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/565214O/3m-cartridge-filter-guide-and-brochure.pdf
https://materion.com/-/media/files/corporate/besafetyfacts/sf7-respiratoryprotectionforprocessingberyllium-containingmaterials.pdf
https://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/general/mask-machining-beryllium-copper-246857/
Raydee you'll live forever. i'd double check on the Cartridge filter though.

What I was thinking. A shop sink or wash pan. I’ve done my fair share of wet sanding and polishing firearms. Doing it right in a sink is less messy than on a bench.

Johnc
10-08-2018, 06:23 PM
No open wounds on hands please (11 days in hospital, 6 in ICU on a breathing machine, beryllium/copper poisoning) I only wet sanded, but in doing so got a few little cuts (enough to bleed a bit, not much but enough). Lung Doctor said it infected my lungs through the blood stream. Was in the hospital less than 6hrs after finishing for the night not being able to breath. He also said, just like lead poisoning, it never leaves your body. Although you can build up a tolerance, just takes longer for your lungs to start failing.

Hawcer
10-08-2018, 06:51 PM
No open wounds on hands please (11 days in hospital, 6 in ICU on a breathing machine, beryllium/copper poisoning) I only wet sanded, but in doing so got a few little cuts (enough to bleed a bit, not much but enough). Lung Doctor said it infected my lungs through the blood stream. Was in the hospital less than 6hrs after finishing for the night not being able to breath. He also said, just like lead poisoning, it never leaves your body. Although you can build up a tolerance, just takes longer for your lungs to start failing.

That’s enough info to stop me. I can’t go a day without taking skin off my hands. Heck, the last time I had my boat out, I sliced my palm open on the turn fin when wiping down the hull when packing up for the day.

I’ll have to get out the welding gloves and scuba gear when prepping poisonous props....or just pay someone else to do it.

fweasel
10-08-2018, 06:56 PM
.or just pay someone else to do it.That's where I'm at. I've got lung issues to begin with, but health aside, the work the pros do is no where near what I could ever do myself and the price is well worth it when you consider the time involved.

Fluid
10-08-2018, 07:12 PM
I spoke with a major supplier of berylliun copper years ago at a trade show. They told me that the major health problem is the intake of copper, not so much beryllium. I always use a good respirator, not the worthless paper paint masks. Those do not form a seal against the face and allow plenty of contaminants into the lungs. Spend an extra $20 and invest in a healthy future rather than save $18 and experience lung problems.

Example: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00079FOK0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_oq-UBbPTRZYXW


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Hawcer
10-08-2018, 07:19 PM
That's where I'm at. I've got lung issues to begin with, but health aside, the work the pros do is no where near what I could ever do myself and the price is well worth it when you consider the time involved.

Yep. I just ordered a prepped and ready prop from OSE. About $50. Seems expensive up front until you break it down. Prop is roughly $20, so $30 for labor and supplies to do the work.

That’s a bargain. I sharpened and balanced my stock stainless prop. That job isn’t something I’d like to do for $30.

I usually prefer to do any work needed myself. It doesn’t matter what the task is. But I’m learning, someone does this stuff as a profession, it’s their job. Just as I have my own profession and it’s my job. I need work to get payed, they need work to get payed....so I’m more willing now to let someone else do work they are probably better and more efficient at than I am.

When all of the prop preppers are gone....then what?

dasboata
10-11-2018, 10:00 AM
Yep. I just ordered a prepped and ready prop from OSE. About $50. Seems expensive up front until you break it down. Prop is roughly $20, so $30 for labor and supplies to do the work.

That’s a bargain. I sharpened and balanced my stock stainless prop. That job isn’t something I’d like to do for $30.

I usually prefer to do any work needed myself. It doesn’t matter what the task is. But I’m learning, someone does this stuff as a profession, it’s their job. Just as I have my own profession and it’s my job. I need work to get payed, they need work to get payed....so I’m more willing now to let someone else do work they are probably better and more efficient at than I am.

When all of the prop preppers are gone....then what?

I have no plans of Dying LOL,, I would love to teach my trade to a worthy kid !!!

Hawcer
10-11-2018, 10:19 AM
I have no plans of Dying LOL,, I would love to teach my trade to a worthy kid !!!

I've heard rave reviews on your prop work.
Before you hang it up and retire. maybe make a vid series and put em on Patreon or youtube. make some extra $$ for your knowledge. It's not the same as hands on training, but it could be a good start for some folks.

Finding a kid these days willing to learn a trade is like trying to win the lottery. but it is possible.

dasboata
10-11-2018, 10:58 AM
I've heard rave reviews on your prop work.
Before you hang it up and retire. maybe make a vid series and put em on Patreon or youtube. make some extra $$ for your knowledge. It's not the same as hands on training, but it could be a good start for some folks.

Finding a kid these days willing to learn a trade is like trying to win the lottery. but it is possible.

I will never retire unless my health will not let me do props any more thanks man

T.S.Davis
10-11-2018, 12:31 PM
Too bad we don't live closer Chris. My kid is a boating super freak.

dasboata
10-11-2018, 05:28 PM
Too bad we don't live closer Chris. My kid is a boating super freak.

To Bad is correct Terry,,, I think I have a pretty safe set up also !!! My grandson was by my side boating and running cars till he discovered girls so good luck with that

Raydee
10-11-2018, 05:35 PM
I think I am done doing my own props and will leaving it up to the pros from now on.

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T.S.Davis
10-12-2018, 10:20 AM
I think I am done doing my own props and will leaving it up to the pros from now on.

When yer guessing on props it's hard to invest in having someone else do them for you. These guys don't work fer free.

I use a respirator. Hard to work under water when I'm on the belt thinning a blade. That's what we need. A water cooled narrow belt.

TheShaughnessy
10-15-2018, 03:41 AM
I'd look into lapidary tools, I'm sure they have something like that.

I found this guy, a little overkill but what more could you want:laugh: https://www.riogrande.com/product/CabKingLapidaryUnit6/203302?gclid=Cj0KCQjw9ZDeBRD9ARIsAMbAmobr56bv5MGCL W6YLfy_BCmwcv4AqqFTqi3DfhCiDXWOZ9pjw3uYoZkaAhbaEAL w_wcB