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worthing3104
11-27-2017, 12:17 AM
Is running 1/8th scale (FE) a dying breed, am about to finish mine up in the next couple of weeks but want to race it next year. I live out here in Las Vegas but figure I'll have to travel to arizona or california to compete. They race gassers out here at sunset park so that's out. I don't have a problem with traveling to race but after reading some threads, doesn't seem like there's but a few people who show up to races with FE's. Any info would be greatly appreciated as I'd like to run a full season next year.

T.S.Davis
11-27-2017, 10:58 AM
I believe there is a group up in Seattle that is really into 1/8 scale.

Other than that, the only other place I know of that runs actual heats is the Michigan Cup. I'd love to hear that there are more out there too.

leonard feeback
11-27-2017, 04:30 PM
Mike, I sent you a PM. Call me about 1/8th scale races.
Leonard

worthing3104
11-27-2017, 11:15 PM
Appreciate that TS Davis, Seattle would be quite the trip but wouldn't mind making the trip to meet new racers. Leonard reached out today, I had a great conversation with him and sounds like running with their club would be a great time. Thanks again

CircusCircus
11-28-2017, 08:00 AM
RC Unlimiteds
http://www.rcunlimiteds.com/

CircusCircus
11-28-2017, 08:01 AM
Unlimiteds NW
http://www.unlimitedsnw.org/

T.S.Davis
11-28-2017, 08:30 AM
RC Unlimiteds
http://www.rcunlimiteds.com/

These guys build some beautiful boats.

jevmax
11-28-2017, 11:24 AM
:glare:
I believe there is a group up in Seattle that is really into 1/8 scale.

Other than that, the only other place I know of that runs actual heats is the Michigan Cup. I'd love to hear that there are more out there too.

FE 1/8th Scales have raced several times here in Texas this year. The Dallas RC Thunderboats are quite involved now, and the HOTMBC members have some too.

jaike5
11-28-2017, 12:19 PM
There is at least two solid FE 1/8 scale sanctioned races in the North East, IMPBA,Michigan Cup and the CanAm, you can get 8 boats if everybody shows, 4-6 if its rainy !!

Cheers, Jay.

T.S.Davis
11-28-2017, 02:02 PM
Jay, I doubt scale will make the cut this year. We'll see though. Stranger things have happened. Did FE scale run at the CanAm this year? Memory is fading......... I remember running just can't remember which year. We ended up with some heats in Atlanta. That sure was a fun to watch.

That's good news Jim. Maybe there are more of them out there than I think. The cool factor is high on these.

It's tough. They're a heck of a commitment. Doesn't help that the rules are different for each organization. Maybe someday they'll be the same but I doubt it.

jaike5
11-28-2017, 04:15 PM
Terry, I here yuh on the fading memory thing ! I think there has got to be 12 FE 1/8 scales in the 2 districts, not including the weird wired guy's like myself who have two or more 1/8 scales!! We are all fortunate we can drive the beasts to races. Imagine if you had to ship one ....Bahaha!! 6 boats for a class , tough times for T- mono and cat. Hopefully you will put them on the roster and let the chips fall where they may. you might get 10 for each !! you just don't know till the dust settles.
Cheers, Jay

T.S.Davis
11-28-2017, 04:47 PM
I counted 9 from D1 and D2. 10 if you count Smock. 10 boats across three districts. If our race was today, only 3 of them would be allowed to race.

We usually do know where the dust will settle Jay. That's how we come up with the list and schedule every year. We know what our list of usual suspects own. To a degree at least. If the other classes don't appear to be making it we'll throw something in on top of our list. The big boats rarely get raced. All too many times we've seen 5 sign up, one guy cancels last minute, one melts down during open water, a third breaks in the first heat. Now we all watch some two boat heats. woo.........hoo.

T.S.Davis
11-28-2017, 04:59 PM
If our race was today, only 3 of them would be allowed to race. .

Actually, that's not fair. I don't know that. 3 of them for sure aren't legal. On of those guys doesn't race anymore anyway. The other 4 I "think" are not registered. However, I can't verify that as there is no list of registered IMPBA boats on planet earth. It's up to the racer to prove to any contest official that his boat is registered. Can't prove it. Can't race it.

Todd Fleury
11-29-2017, 09:34 AM
I know of 3 scales registered in District 2155203155204155205

T.S.Davis
11-29-2017, 09:52 AM
haha Bind them all to the same radio. Should be a scream.

T.S.Davis
11-29-2017, 09:53 AM
Just noticed. References the NAMBA roster. Weird.

Todd Fleury
11-29-2017, 09:54 AM
Yep, They use the NAMBA MHR for their record

Todd Fleury
11-29-2017, 09:55 AM
One is nitro, so guess I need to enter more races

Doby
11-29-2017, 11:13 AM
I still think 6S and open motors would be viable...

jevmax
11-29-2017, 11:25 AM
Is running 1/8th scale (FE) a dying breed, am about to finish mine up in the next couple of weeks but want to race it next year. I live out here in Las Vegas but figure I'll have to travel to arizona or california to compete. They race gassers out here at sunset park so that's out. I don't have a problem with traveling to race but after reading some threads, doesn't seem like there's but a few people who show up to races with FE's. Any info would be greatly appreciated as I'd like to run a full season next year.

There were 4 entries in FE 1/8th Scale at the 2017 NAMBA Nats in Las Vegas. By comparison, there were 5 entries in Gas Scale, and only 4 in Nitro 1/8th Scale.

K.R.Joye
01-24-2018, 10:29 AM
I'm building another 8th scale almost halfway done w/construction. I need to get a build thread going! Debut scheduled for Mi Cup so count me in!

We need to get word out if they need to be IMPBA registered!!!!!!!!!!:wink:

Todd Fleury
01-24-2018, 10:34 AM
Ken,
Reach out to Terry. I sent him the registration form for 1/8 scale in our district.

T.S.Davis
01-24-2018, 11:12 AM
Yeah, it's the wrong form though according to Joe. Haven't seen the new one yet. I'll probably just make the form myself so we can use it in the future. Get it to Joe after. It ain't rocket science.

It's an IMPBA national event. They must be registered. There's no "if". They also must have one of the motors from the list. Also not negotiable.

Ken makes 4 for the Cup. 2 more to go.

Anybody heard from Baffer? His scale is stupid fast too.
Didn't see Smock on there yet either. Hope he can make it.
Missing Snaer too. Just texted him. He's running. Just hasn't registered yet. That boat is so pretty.

Should make the bubble.

Todd Fleury
01-24-2018, 11:40 AM
I will change it. Going to use last years form and change it to 2018.

T.S.Davis
01-24-2018, 12:31 PM
Cool beans Todd. Already forwarded it to the guys I knew were looking for it.

Todd Fleury
01-24-2018, 04:58 PM
Sent my 3 forms

rayzerdesigns
01-25-2018, 07:38 PM
Leonard in la at Legg Lake has a scale club.. not sure how many they get.. I’m actually building one but prob won’t race it until nats in Dallas if I go..

Doby
01-25-2018, 08:13 PM
What exactly is the point of the registration?

worthing3104
01-26-2018, 12:49 AM
Been talking to Leonard, they have I think 3 fulltime racers with a 4th here and there, I'll be going to the club's 1st race on March 24th I believe at Legg Lake

T.S.Davis
01-26-2018, 08:25 AM
What exactly is the point of the registration?

Nobody knows. I think once upon a time the idea was to keep from having multiple copies of the same boat in the same district. Some think its to ensure that the boats are truly scale. However, the national chair nor the district chair inspects the boat in person. You just send the form and a pic of the real boat so it can't be that.

I do know this. If you want to piss off the fuel scale guys......just suggest the registration serves no purpose.

Bp9145
01-26-2018, 08:36 AM
RC Unlimiteds
http://www.rcunlimiteds.com/
absolutely some beautiful boats and 1/8th scale are just so awesome screaming across the water. . .again you guys have some gorgeous boats

Todd Fleury
01-26-2018, 08:44 AM
Terry,
I believe Joe told me he was going to stop by the Nationals to look at the registered boats. But I might be wrong

longballlumber
01-26-2018, 12:21 PM
You guys crack me up…

By having your 1/8 boat registered gives the CD the confidence your boat meets the rules required. A registration card eliminates the need for the CD to go around measuring each scale at every event thru the year/s. That is why you're supposed to show your card at the event.

If there is a concern the boat has been modified after registration then you would need to file a formal protest and I am sure that would initiate the hull being measured again.

It clearly states in the rule book the registration fee is used to “cover registration printing costs & postage fees”. You guys just spent thousands on a boat and now you’re worried about $5-$10??? Really??? Actually, its my understanding that Joe W. has been waiving the fee for those registering FE 1/8 boats recently.

NOW, if a boat is being registered and the care hasn’t been taken to make sure the model fits inside of the published rules… That responsibility falls back on whoever processed the registration; whether or not if that is Joe W. or the District Director. I am unsure how Joe approaches this process. Perhaps he is giving boaters the benefit of the doubt or honor system. Is that right or wrong; don’t know. However, if I know Joe W. well enough, you jerk him over one time and that will be the end of any “I trust ya” moments.

At the end of the day there are MANY 1/8 boats in our district and surrounding districts. They are registered, they are legal, and fill racing events. It must not be broken too bad. I would suggest take a step back and ask the right questions, to the right people. We are all on the same team now (IMPBA), we need to play like we are on the same team.

Todd Fleury
01-26-2018, 12:40 PM
Joe is currently waiving the fees. The fees are actually for a high points trophy etc.

longballlumber
01-26-2018, 01:05 PM
The fees are actually for a high points trophy etc.

In addition too...

Taken directly from the book...

VII. $5.00 initial registration fee and a $3.00 annual renewal fee due by March 1. The
registrant will receive a District Chairman approved form verifying current registration.
Approved form must be brought to all contests. Purpose of fee-monies will be used for
high point district trophy, postage, printing costs, and other expenses incurred.

K.R.Joye
01-26-2018, 01:14 PM
You guys crack me up…

By having your 1/8 boat registered gives the CD the confidence your boat meets the rules required. A registration card eliminates the need for the CD to go around measuring each scale at every event thru the year/s. That is why you're supposed to show your card at the event.

If there is a concern the boat has been modified after registration then you would need to file a formal protest and I am sure that would initiate the hull being measured again.

It clearly states in the rule book the registration fee is used to “cover registration printing costs & postage fees”. You guys just spent thousands on a boat and now you’re worried about $5-$10??? Really??? Actually, its my understanding that Joe W. has been waiving the fee for those registering FE 1/8 boats recently.

NOW, if a boat is being registered and the care hasn’t been taken to make sure the model fits inside of the published rules… That responsibility falls back on whoever processed the registration; whether or not if that is Joe W. or the District Director. I am unsure how Joe approaches this process. Perhaps he is giving boaters the benefit of the doubt or honor system. Is that right or wrong; don’t know. However, if I know Joe W. well enough, you jerk him over one time and that will be the end of any “I trust ya” moments.

At the end of the day there are MANY 1/8 boats in our district and surrounding districts. They are registered, they are legal, and fill racing events. It must not be broken too bad. I would suggest take a step back and ask the right questions, to the right people. We are all on the same team now (IMPBA), we need to play like we are on the same team.

Hey Mike, your preaching to the choir...

Todd Fleury
01-26-2018, 02:51 PM
I'm not trying to argue with you Mike, but read the registration form on the first page. The $10 registration fee is for the high points trophy. I actually support this registration. That is why I filled mine out and sent them in already.

longballlumber
01-26-2018, 03:09 PM
I'm not trying to argue with you Mike, but read the registration form on the first page. The $10 registration fee is for the high points trophy. I actually support this registration. That is why I filled mine out and sent them in already.

Understood; nor am I trying to argue with you. I am simply trying to fill in the gaps so those reading this can see the entire picture. It does sound like some commonization of wording could be cleaned up. Although, at the end of the day, it won't change the process.

Later,
Ball

T.S.Davis
01-26-2018, 05:20 PM
By having your 1/8 boat registered gives the CD the confidence your boat meets the rules required. A registration card eliminates the need for the CD to go around measuring each scale at every event thru the year/s. That is why you're supposed to show your card at the event.

No offense Mike but you're absolutely wrong on this one. I've CD'd a couple races. The registration gives the CD absolutely zero confidence that a boat is correct. The form/card provided verifies that the boat is registered. That's all. There are no provisions in the rule book that a boat be inspected by a district or national chairman to verify a boats accuracy. It's up to the venue to verify it should a boat be protested. If the "intent" of the registration is to verify a boats compliance with the rules then it needs to be re-written. It doesn't currently. Done a few of those re-writes too. You register via email. You don't even have to have the boat built. Todd has three registered. Only one has ever had paint on it.

The registration provides no benefit other than to pay for a district trophy and to print the card itself. The fact that a boat cost $1500 to start so what's a couple more bucks is irrelevant. If the rule called for me to actually light some money on fire it would have the same benefit. "Oh come on Terry! What's 15 more bucks?" I was thinking about adding a diamond coating to my next boat. Not because it helps but what's a few more bucks right?

Make no mistake though. The registration is going no where.

Doug Smock
01-27-2018, 12:51 AM
SMH..........seriously!

K.R.Joye
06-25-2018, 08:30 AM
Sounds like having your IMPBA Scale registered doesn't hold any weight for upcoming FE Nats. Anything go's as usual then...