Veles Fast List!!!

[MADRCER]

I thought the Fast List that Keagan created for the Zelos 36 is a great reference tool for us, so I figured I would copy his lead and create one for the Veles 29. I am pretty sure some info has changed or may be incorrect but this is to start with and I can update as the info comes along. If any members want to post their MPH and props here I will add you to the list. I can add a metric for Mods such as motors, esc, etc. For those missing props on this list is because I can't confirm if it was stock or another prop. Let me know and I'll add them. The list will be sorted by the fastest. Also I'm sure this boat will see twin motors or upgraded Motors down the road, so I have added a Modified section as well.

The trophy ________ has is the modded trophy (no longer stock motors or ESCs) The trophy MADRCER holds is the stock configuration trophy (ESCs & Motors remain factory). It is pretty obvious why _______ holds that coveted shiny trophy. I would of loved to get these trophies to the right side of the info for each member but the forum ain't having it.

A few rules and comments are below.
1. Must show proof. Either GPS or Data Log
2. In the event of a tie (same speeds ran) the person who has the most documented run (video, Datalogs, etc.) would be the one that holds that spot.
3. Must be a OSE Member.
4. I'm sure the ones that view this would want this to be good useful information for reference and a lot of newcomers will indeed view this so I would think that most hobbyist would like to see speeds from a practical setup that one can run safely in a SAW type run with without risk of burning their stuff up.
5. I don't check the fast list daily but I'm pretty active on the forums still. If you want me to add you, post here. If I don't within 2 days, PM me please!
6. Disclaimer I have requested that people give practical setup information, so with that being said, myself or OSE can not be held accountable or responsible if you try any of the below setups and something happens to you or your boat. If you elect to try these setups on your boat you are doing it at your own risk!



MODIFIED VELES 29! (Who needs stock Motors & ESC's?)

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Member: :popcorn2:
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Prop:
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Member: :popcorn2:
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STOCK VELES 29 on 6s! (The way it was delivered from the factory)

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Member: MADRCER
MPH: 80.15mph (129kmh)
Prop: ABC 1716-17-45
ESC: Stock
Motor: Stock
Batteries: 2x3s Revo
Mods: NONE
Video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlpdo0DxJ7w&t=2s

Member: Brushman
MPH: 78.29mph (126kmh)
Prop: ABC 1616-17-45
ESC: Stock
Motor: Stock
Batteries:2x3s EPS 75c
Mods: Aftermarket rudder, Oversized ESC Cap Banks installed, and Larger bullet battery connectors.
Video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcwUG4wjOjk

Member: rcboone2000
MPH: 70
Prop: ABC 1714 (Dasboata)
ESC: Stock
Motor: Stock
Batteries:2x3s Turnigy
Mods: NONE
Video link:


Member: MADRCER
MPH: 70
Prop: stock Pro Boat prop
ESC: Stock
Motor: Stock
Batteries: 2x3s Revo
Mods: NONE
Video link:

Member: Nemesis17592
MPH:68
Prop: Dasboata 1715
ESC: Stock
Motors: Stock
Batteries: (2) 3s REVO 70c

Member: Berdeman
MPH: 66.5
Prop: ABC 1716-17-45 (Dasboata)
ESC: stock
Motor: stock
Batteries: 2x3s SMC 7200mah
Mods: NONE
Video link:


Member: vinnyp
MPH: 65.9
Prop: stock Pro Boat prop (s&b by vinnyp)
ESC: stock
Motor: stock
Batteries: SMC 3s 5200 lipos
Mods: NONE
Video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSE60P_LeaY&t=3s


Member: Team kfxguy,Tinman and Ricky
MPH: 64
Prop: stock Pro Boat prop (s&b by kfxguy)
ESC: stock
Motor: stock
Batteries:
Mods: NONE
Video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi08ElP4Hzc&t=1s


STOCK VELES 29 on 4s! (The way it was delivered from the factory)


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Member: MADRCER
MPH: 57.16 (92kmh)
Prop: ABC 1816
ESC: Stock
Motor: Stock
Batteries: 2x2s SMC 5200mah 90c
Video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9PPfggFmsw&t=3s


Member: rcboone2000
MPH: 55
Prop: ABC 2214-10-50 (NOTE: electronics very hot)
ESC: Stock
Motor: Stock
Batteries: 2x2s Turnigy
Video link:

Member: :popcorn2:
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[MADRCER]

Since I am a big fan of the Dynamite 3831 motor I have created an addition to this thread below I have added some other notable speeds that I have found on the forums from a Veles 29 and or a 3831 equipped boat such as its predecessor Miss Geico 29 or Black Jack 29. I didn't add any Zelos 36 speeds with 3831's since there is already is a Zelos fast list that covers them already. If anyone wants to be added please post and let me know your numbers. Thanks and I hope this reference list helps someone down the road with their setup.

Other speed reporting's from a "stock" Veles 29, UL-19 or any "other" 3831 equipped boat if anyone is interested. I'm not saying that I recommend all of these props but just wanted to pass some info.

4s Veles
50mph ABC 1914 (rcboone2000) temps were good
54.2mph ABC 1816 s&b on a single 4s Revo (MADRCER) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MSV2-_3ZKE&t=2s
55mph ABC 2214-10-50 (rcboone2000) NOTE: electronics very hot
55.4mph ABC 1815 (MADRCER) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BAQNjM98sA
57mph ABC 1816 (MADRCER) temps were in the 140° and 145°


6s Veles
55mph stock prop Raw (rcboone2000)
59.3mph stock prop Raw (Pro Boat Development team)
61mph stock prop s&b (rcboone2000)
64mph stock prop s&b by kfxguy (kfxguy.Ricky and TinMan)
65.9mph stock prop s&b (vinnyp) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSE60P_LeaY
68.8mph (MADRCER) running vinnyp's Veles 1716 prop
70mph stock prop s&b (MADRCER)
70mph ABC 1714 (rcboone2000)
77mph ABC 1716 (MADRCER) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGK2aj9RAKw&t=1s
78.5mph ABC 1715 (MADRCER) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm00mOvz8fg&t=21s
79mph ABC 1715 (MADRCER) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWH62jNz5u8&t=7s
80mph ABC 1716 (MADRCER) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlpdo0DxJ7w&t=52s


4s UL-19 and "other" 3831 equipped boats
48mph (PB) 1.7x1.6 ss s&b BHChieftain UL-19
50.1mph (PB) 1.7x1.6 ss UL-19 stock (MADRCER)
51mph ABC 1716 s&b BHChieftain UL-19 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIQ8eGhszAE&t=30s
52.4mph ABC 1716 s&b UL-19 (MADRCER) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pBAuOVWJTA
53.2mph ABC 1814 S&b by Brian Buaas MG29v3 (flattrack)
60mph ABC 1815-17-45 Black Pearl - Spec Sport Hydro on 4S (TRUCKPULL)


5s UL-19 and "other" 3831 equipped boats
59.3mph ABC 1716 s&b UL-19 (MADRCER) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8aRT9Y5Cd4


6s UL-19 and "other" 3831 equipped boats
63.5mph x440/3 MG29v3 (fweasel)
64mph x440/3 BJ29 (REDLINE1)
68.1mph ABC 1715 s&b by dasboata MG29v3 (fweasel)
68.5mph ABC 1716 s&b by dasboata MG29v3 (fweasel)
70mph Pro Boat 1.7x1.6 ss s&b UL-19 (MADRCER)
75mph ABC 1716 s&b UL-19 (MADRCER)
76mph ABC 1716 BJ29 (REDLINE1)
78mph ABC 1716 s&b MG29v3 (MADRCER) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC8XH6b_UZg&t=1s
83.5mph ABC 1716 s&b MG29v3 (MADRCER) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILaRY_6eWIs

[vinnyp]

Mark,
Nice job on the fast list. If I can ever get mine to make a lap, I may get a speed # out of it.

[MADRCER]

Below is my 75mph run.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy5dFlhiSgo&t=5s

Below are links to my 77mph, 79mph and 80mph runs for any interested.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlpdo0DxJ7w&t=180s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWH62jNz5u8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGK2aj9RAKw&t=130s

[vinnyp]

I finally got a run in with the Veles today. Had real good conditions, no wind, calm water. Unfortunately, my run didn't last very long. The steering servo gears stripped out rather quickly. I know that I could have gotten more out of it today had the gears not failed. Anyway, this is what I got..Sorry but I don't have a video. GoPro is in the works. 154165
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Stock electronics
Stock s.s. prop balanced and sharpened by myself
SMC 3s 5200 lipos

[fweasel]

Nice run Vinny. If you didn't have bad luck, you'd have none at all... :sinking-guy: At least it didn't sink!

[vinnyp]

Yeah thanks Ryan.

Hence my nickname..... blackcloud

[MADRCER]

Good Run VP! I got your info posted.

[MADRCER]

I finally took the Veles out today for a 4s run. The speeds were 56.3mph and 57mph from the GPS devices. I ran several laps on this run with this setup and the temps were 140° ESC and 145° motor. Batteries used were SMC 2x2s 5200mah 7.4 volt 90c.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9PPfggFmsw&t=38s

[MADRCER]

A couple of runs today with the Veles on a windy day. The first run I was running 4s 2x2s 5200mah SMC 90c 100% all stock (prop and all) and got 42mph. In these conditions the boat ran pretty wet running 4s and strut adjustments could be made to gain a few more mph if I was more into 4s running. The next run was a 6s run with a 1716 using 2x3s SMC 5200 90c lipos and got 72mph. However in all fairness the conditions weren't the greatest for the SMC's for matching apples to apples. I will give them another shot one day in better conditions and see if they can do any better, but I would say they perform pretty close to my Gens Ace packs in this boat. The 6s video will be posted below in the next post due to the one video limit on each post.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZZdMaxqM3M

[MADRCER]

The 6s run is here.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-LqdcCUbbs&feature=youtu.be

[vinnyp]

Another nice clean run. The difference between 4s and 6s is astounding. Tough to beat those SMC's for the money.

[MADRCER]

For anyone looking for touch up paint for the Veles I have found a combination that looks decent. It's not an exact match but close enough for me. I mixed some Testors Sublime green with Gloss Bright lime and It blends in and matches where I have to really look for the spot in order to find it, so I am ok with it until something better is found. I believe this could be made an exact match if one wanted to keep mixing until you mixed the exact shade. In the below picture with me holding the two bottles together you can see the spot that I touched up with it.

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[vinnyp]

I had the opportunity to run the Veles today. Ran it on my SMC 5200's 3S lipos, ABC 1716 prepped by myself. I had an issue with the lipos. I just got a new charger and think I may not have had it set properly. Don't think I got a full charge. Damn thing was cutting out and sputtering on me during a full throttle pass. In any case, this is the run today. Had flat water, no wind, cool air temps. Ran 63.5 mph. Getting there, but not there yet. Video is a bit grainy, not sure why. I should have just kept it recording while I unscrewed the hatch. I uploaded 2 videos instead.


https://youtu.be/N2lua9m6w6s

[vinnyp]

Verification of speed...Update me Mark... Thanks...


https://youtu.be/J00szSsY7dY

[MADRCER]

Updated. Good Job Vinny! I was planning a 6s and a 4s run today with my single Revo 4s pack but forgot my jumper plug to bypass the second EC5 connector on my ESC. So, I was only able to get a 6s run in and I only got 73.2mph. I believe I can Hit 60mph or get very close with my Revo 4s pack. Oh well maybe next time.

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[vinnyp]

Another nice 6s run Mark. :thumbup1: I wouldn't think that a 4s pack would fit in the Veles tray.

[MADRCER]

Another nice 6s run Mark. :thumbup1: I wouldn't think that a 4s pack would fit in the Veles tray.

Thanks. Yes the 4s pack fits but I had to remove the Velcro from the bottom of it that I had on it for my other boats. but will fit perfect. Here is the video of my run today. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRy7RiLCd70


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRy7RiLCd70&feature=youtu.be

[vinnyp]

I just watched your video. I noticed something very unusual. I had flatter water than you did today. Must have been a shift in Earths gravity. :noidea:

[MADRCER]

I just ran my 4s comparison run today of my Revo 435 series vs my 2x2s SMC's. Water was glass and no wind, perfect conditions for 4s or 6s.....Well the 2x2s 5200mAh SMC packs win in the shootout 56.3mph/57mph vs 54.2/54mph for the Revo. Below is the video of the Revo test scroll up in this thread for the SMC run. When the boat was taking off and trying to get on plane it looked like it had Hydraulics and "three wheeling" on water...lol! But when it got on plane it handled very well with the single 4s Revo "house brick" on the left side and offsetting the torque twist nicely... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MSV2-_3ZKE

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MSV2-_3ZKE&feature=youtu.be

[MADRCER]

...and some question it's ability to turn.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BOjJXq9rwk


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BOjJXq9rwk

[vinnyp]

You are lucky that thing turned as well as it did. Came real close to that pier on your first turn.:flashfire: I feel mine turns well also. Hooked a few hard turns here and there.

[MADRCER]

Yea, yours looked pretty sporty as well.... :popcorn2:

[vinnyp]

Yeah... I think I have to move the packs around some to go any faster. Considering how this boat started out, its come a long way.

[Berdeman]

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[Berdeman]

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[MADRCER]

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Berdeman added. Awesome Job!

[flattrack]

Wanted to post my 3831 equipped MGV3 with a Buaas 1814 on 4S (Revos). 53.2 mph.
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[MADRCER]

Great info flattrack and Awesome job!! I created a 4s section in the "other section" of this thread. This is good info that we can all put to use.

[MADRCER]

I ran the Veles today and got 55.4 mph with my 1815 on 4s. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BAQNjM98sA

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BAQNjM98sA&t=4s

[vinnyp]

Nice run on 4s. Looks like the weather was good for you today. May not last much longer.

[MADRCER]

Weather was good just hard to find extra play time. If it works for my schedule tomorrow Ole yeller and the veles both might get some play time. If not the next time the Veles gets in the water it will have the good 3s batteries in it along with an ABC 1716 s&b NON Dasboata prop that a member is sending me and wanting to compare it against the best in the business prop work. Stay tuned.....

[vinnyp]

NON[/B] Dasboata prop that a member is sending me and wanting to compare it against the best in the business prop work. Stay tuned.....

For anyone who is interested, that member is me. While I have not been in the game of fast electrics for more than 8 months, I feel in that short time, my prop prep work has improved significantly. Not claiming to be the best by any means. Just want to see how fast my prop would run with someone who has more experience with setting up one of these boats than me. Bottom line..... I have the same boats as does Mark. In fact my Zelos is supposed to have more power than his. Still, I have not been able to come anywhere near the speed he runs. Is it my props or my set up? Maybe this little test will tell the tale.

:popcorn2:

[MADRCER]

Vinny, With all fairness it was windy and I soaked a poor handicapped boy in his wheelchair trying to run in a strong sidewind, he was a good sport though and I let him drive my tug boat around to make up for getting him wet... but test #1 of Vinnyp's ABC 1716 prop that he s&b himself. The wind was strong blowing into my face which was pushing the boat very close to the dock and I may have left a few mph on the table. I will have a follow up test in the coming days to verify if this is all his prop has in it.

[dasboata]

Wow Mark 10 MPH difference Oh well Vinny back to the grind stone,, In all fairness 10 MPH is a big difference could be a mislabeled prop some where ???

[vinnyp]

Thanks for testing it out. Was hoping for better numbers, but it is what it is. As you said, maybe a few mph left with better conditions. You have to admit the prop looks good. Maybe better than it performed. You are a brave man to touch that prop with the lipos plugged in. If I did that, the radio would blow over, land on the throttle trigger and the prop would cut my fingers off.

[MADRCER]

VP did you send me to a gun fight with a knife...LOL!

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[vinnyp]

VP did you send me to a gun fight with a knife...

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No not intentionally. The pictures sure make my prop look like a 1715. Need a pitch gauge to be certain. I was going to invest in one, but don't have it yet. Wonder if it was mismarked at ABC??? Has this been noted before? That prop came from Bonzi. At the time OSE didn't have any stock.
That 1716 on the right certainly appears to have more blade than the one in the middle. Maybe if time allows, a test would be to run your 1715 and my 1716 back to back. Blackcloud strikes again.

[vinnyp]

Fair enough for me. Thanks for taking the time to test.

[vinnyp]

Mark,
I had a thought. When you first looked at my prop, you said it felt sharper than yours. Then you weighed it to compare to your 1716. Mine weighed 1 1/2 grams lighter than yours, a considerable amount. I have seen variations in the weight of these props when they arrive from ABC, but not to that extreme. In the case of my zelos, I make every effort to get the weight of the 2 props as even as possible. In this case, I had no other 1716 to compare to. I know how much I take off each blade as I work with a scale. It shouldn't be that much. When you have the time, I would like you to weigh my prop to compare to your 1715, that may give us some more information.

[vinnyp]

That was a nice looking run, right up to the point where it took flight for what maybe 75 feet or so. It had to have hit a partially submerged branch or debris of some kind. Are there any turtles in that pond? There are 2 nice fresh water ponds right near my house that I don't run in because they are loaded with turtles. If it was a turtle, that turtle just had a real bad day. No worries about if the prop gets damaged. That's part of the game. Remember when I told you I wrecked a pair of 1817's on my zelos 2 weeks ago in very similar manor. Only I wasnt up to speed when I hit something. Your Veles seemed to be humming right along when it hit. If nothing else, it made for a real cool video. Thanks for testing it out.
Getting to the prep work I did. I know I took .5 grams from each blade. Then a small amount to get the balance right. I cant see how it got so much lighter and thinner than yours, but the scale doesn't lie. Is the jury still out on whether this prop is a 1715 or a 1716? I know I am confused about it. I don't have the knowledge of how to harden props yet. Its a skill I hope to learn soon. I don't think the hardening process that was done to your props would make the prop any heavier but not certain.

[MADRCER]

Very seldom do I see a turtle in this water. As for the prop I think it is a 1716 but I think you have manipulated it just enough that's it is hard for me to tell. I for sure thought it was until I put it right beside mine. It is stamped as a 1716 and it's probably very rare for it to be stamped wrong so I would say it is and 5 mph or so has been my findings from a Pro prepped prop and a non Pro prepped. Obviously the gap is closer on a Pro prepped vs. Pro prepped, but I like to put my mind at ease, so I let one "Pro" handle mine and he always comes through for me.

[vinnyp]

I can live with that.

[vinnyp]

Excellent comparison, conditions look very similar. Except without the unexpected flight at the end. I saw your post on YouTube. Sounds possible that the breakaway bolt just failed. You would think if it hit something, there would be some damage on either the rudder or prop.
I learned a few things from this. I may not lean on " the grind stone" so much on my next prop. No hurry in sending it back to me. I think I am done for the winter.

[vinnyp]

Ok you talked me into it. Just remember, I am on Long Island New York with the ocean on one side and the Long Island Sound on the other. Its gets cold here. On the other hand, I do believe there is a 70 in that prop with ideal conditions. If I can, I will try to run again. Soon that bay I run in may freeze up. Salt water or not, it does freeze. In the mornings, there has already been skim ice covering the canal at work. But there is a good amount of fresh water run off there from the streets. No run off at the bay I run.

[dasboata]

Ok you talked me into it. Just remember, I am on Long Island New York with the ocean on one side and the Long Island Sound on the other. Its gets cold here. On the other hand, I do believe there is a 70 in that prop with ideal conditions. If I can, I will try to run again. Soon that bay I run in may freeze up. Salt water or not, it does freeze. In the mornings, there has already been skim ice covering the canal at work. But there is a good amount of fresh water run off there from the streets. No run off at the bay I run.

Vin I ran for years in the winter at the old Baldwin boat ramp when the fresh water was hard

[vinnyp]

Thanks Chris.. I have run at the Freeport ramp a few times, but its best to go at slack tide. The water can rip in that little canal.

[MADRCER]

Horrible weather for the past few days, nothing but wind (perfect weather for flying a kite). However all these goodies will make up for it welll! That prop in the top right 2nd row is the one that I'll be looking to break my record with. You know you got something special when your prop guy gives the prop a born on date! It looks like Santa is coming early this year! :wink:

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[vinnyp]

Hopefully your weather will improve soon. Its not looking good here for a while.

[MADRCER]

The best I can get is 68.8mph with Vinny's prop in my boat with my setup. The water was glass and perfect no wind at all. I almost didn't make it to the lake in time before it got too dark. But just enough time for one two pass run. No video because the big rush out the door and I didn't get time to check the battery in the camera and of course it was dead when I got it out at the lake. It was getting dark quickly and I'm not sure it would have been a very good video anyways. Below are a couple of pictures.

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[vinnyp]

Once again.... Thanks for taking the time to test it out. Now I need to be able to duplicate that speed myself. While I didn't get to test very much, my best run was 5.5 mph off from yours. :beerchug:

[Bp9145]

[QUOTE=MADRCER;705944] "The best I can get is 68.8mph with Vinny's prop in my boat with my setup." Too bad Vinny didn't set the speed with his boat and him driving it because then he would have bested his own personal record and would have moved up on the ladder. . .maybe still give him credit. .LOL

[MADRCER]

[QUOTE=MADRCER;705944] "The best I can get is 68.8mph with Vinny's prop in my boat with my setup." Too bad Vinny didn't set the speed with his boat and him driving it because then he would have bested his own personal record and would have moved up on the ladder. . .maybe still give him credit. .LOL

LOL! Decent weather next Thursday, Friday, and Saturday vp! You may have to circle one of them days on your calendar and let her rip.

[vinnyp]

Yes, I am hoping the weather breaks here. Its been ridiculously cold and windy. We should be finishing up at work next week. May have some time off to play if the weather allows. Along with a ton of other projects, gonna work on the Zelos motor mounts when I am off.

[MADRCER]

I know my batteries have some wear and have to be getting weaker but still not too bad for the Green Machine to still get 74mph... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3idxy2ryrEk

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3idxy2ryrEk&feature=youtu.be

[vinnyp]

Another nice run with the " Green Machine " . Hope to run mine this week. The weather is supposed to change for the better around here soon. I need the water to turn into a liquid again.

[MADRCER]

Thanks Vinny! I really appreciate the comment. I want to share my NEW BEST run to date video with everyone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGK2aj9RAKw

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGK2aj9RAKw

[vinnyp]

And the anti goes up again. Congrats!! :thumbup1:

[Keagan-Z06]

Wow! MADRCER! Great Job with this. Didn't realize its been this long since you created this. Great work!

[MADRCER]

Thanks Keagan!

[vinnyp]

It will be a while before I can run anything here. Its been ridiculously cold here. Although its supposed to warm up this week, the damage has been done. I hate the winter.

[MADRCER]

I had time to run the Veles again and got a new best speed of 80mph!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlpdo0DxJ7w&t=170s

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlpdo0DxJ7w&t=8s

[MADRCER]

Here, Veles, Veles, Veles...

This run I actually duplicated my previous best to the exact mph....So I wanted to add this video since I have added "other 3831 equipped boats" to this thread. Sorry to dig up an old thread and double post, I only did it for reference and verification since the doubters are always lurking...:spy: I'm still mad at myself because I ran this close to the dock AGAIN and had to let out early due to the bank and fisherman. I'm not done with this boat yet...:popcorn2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC8XH6b_UZg&t=2s

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC8XH6b_UZg&feature=youtu.be

[dasboata]

I would of laughed my azz off if that fishing pole went flying in the water nice run boat looks planted

[rw442]

Just picked up my new Veles today wanted to ask about prop strut and other setup tips before first run. Have also purchased upgraded drive cable and couple from OSE store and pair of evoletric 2s 70 c 5000 mah batteries plan on sharpening and balancing stock prop for starters any other help would be greatly appreciated I currently own 2 Blackjack 29 cats one is all stock and the other is modded with 150 Esc and leopard 2200 kv 4074 also have a Impulse 28 modded with dynamite 120 Esc and leopard 4074 2000kv. Thanks I just realize that I might be posting in wrong section sorry

[MADRCER]

Miss Geico 29 says....Gotcha VELES 29!!!

I knew that I left some on the table in my last run due to running too close to the bank and having to let off early. Today's run the speed was 81mph by the logger and 80mph by the Dynamite gps. Thanks to Travis (kfxguy) for some of the best and FASTEST flex shafts that I have ran...Lol! Please see the end of the video for shout-outs and for the data-logger speeds explained for anyone doubting this run this will show you how long the boat held 81mph. It clearly shows that the boat hit 81mph for several steps in this run. For those who can't see this video in internet explorer (for some reason) here is a direct link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILaRY_6eWIs

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[Steven Vaccaro]

Nice work.

[kfxguy]

Nice! I bet that lady fishing was glad to see you lol.

You need to ditch the tape and install a hatch seal setup like I use. Much less hassle.

[rw442]

Wow that thing is hooked up nice run I could only get 59- 61 mph with my Blackjack and then it was very close to a blow over with the stock electronics and a Dasboata custom 642 wanted to ask you when you set your prop strut height how many millimeters high is it from the top of the mount? I have always have mine set at 3 mm above the and seems to be the best I can get any higher it wants to cavitation any lower and it keeps the nose down and slows too speed . Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[MADRCER]

Nice work.

Thanks Steve!


Nice! I bet that lady fishing was glad to see you lol.

You need to ditch the tape and install a hatch seal setup like I use. Much less hassle.

Thanks Travis! I was there first but if you would have been there on my run right before this one I bet you would have had a smile on your face from the NICE lady... Too bad my second run was the faster of the two or all would have got to see that interaction on the video.... :laugh: Yea, Hatch seal all the way!


Wow that thing is hooked up nice run I could only get 59- 61 mph with my Blackjack and then it was very close to a blow over with the stock electronics and a Dasboata custom 642 wanted to ask you when you set your prop strut height how many millimeters high is it from the top of the mount? I have always have mine set at 3 mm above the and seems to be the best I can get any higher it wants to cavitation any lower and it keeps the nose down and slows too speed . Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks Ronald! I run an OSE strut and If I remember right it is slightly taller than the OEM Geico strut....but I haven't ever measured the distance above the top mount. I always measure the strut distance up from a level surface since I like to run a certain degree of + or - to my setups depending on the conditions and it would be a nightmare to measure 2 or 3 places on top of the mount (for me anyways) since on my setups the top of the strut is rarely ever perfectly level. My setup running an abc prop is totally different than yours with a x642 prop, but with that prop "ballpark" should be somewhere around 1/8" up from the bottom of the sponsons and level. Good luck with it!

[vinnyp]

Man, how the hell are you going that fast. Maybe that pond is down hill!!! :tt2:
Seriously, I tip my hat.....:tiphat::tiphat: another great run.

[MADRCER]

Man, how the hell are you going that fast. Maybe that pond is down hill!!! :tt2:
Seriously, I tip my hat.....:tiphat::tiphat: another great run.

Thanks VP! Hmmm...Just luck I guess... I do try to keep my head tilted so you can't see the 45° slope of the lake. ..:wink:

[vinnyp]

I do try to keep my head tilted so you can't see the 45° slope of the lake. ..:wink:

So, that's how you make the pond look level. Trick camera work. :bounce:

[MADRCER]

100% all stock Pro Boat Veles 29 (prop and all). The stock prop was prepped by Chris Hoffmann (Dasboata). I ran this prop again because I wanted to see what the boat would do now sine it's dialed in pretty decent. The gps devices recorded the boat at 68.2mph and the gps logger got the boat at 69mph. Big thanks to my prop smith Chris Hoffmann (dasboata) for the awesome prop work!

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[kfxguy]

Nice! now me and my buddy have some work to do!

[dasboata]

100% all stock Pro Boat Veles 29 (prop and all). The stock prop was prepped by Chris Hoffmann (Dasboata). I ran this prop again because I wanted to see what the boat would do now sine it's dialed in pretty decent. The gps devices recorded the boat at 68.2mph and the gps logger got the boat at 69mph. Big thanks to my prop smith Chris Hoffmann (dasboata) for the awesome prop work! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYXXPxlMar8&feature=youtu.be

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I'll get the next stock prop going for you Mark !!!

[MADRCER]

I'll get the next stock prop going for you Mark !!! Thanks Chris! I know you got my back!

Nice! now me and my buddy have some work to do! Thanks Travis! Plenty of room left on the front page. BTW I found the Veles you are working on with your partners. Nice run, 64mph not bad! Take it easy on me...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi08ElP4Hzc&t=181s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi08ElP4Hzc&t=181s

[kfxguy]

Thanks for posting that video! He asked me to post it yesterday but I forgot. :)

[vinnyp]

I got to run my veles today. The boat is all stock, including the stock s.s. prop that I prepped myself. not as fast as Mark, but I hit my personal best today of 65.9 mph. Update me Mark!!


https://youtu.be/HSE60P_LeaY

[vinnyp]

Video of gps


https://youtu.be/-xnxqYt0How

[MADRCER]

Congrats! Fantastic run Vinny!! Your numbers have been updated. 65.9mph great speed with the Veles on the stock prop. Good job man!

For those who may be using an older version of ie and can't see Vinny's videos in the above post the links are below to his runs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSE60P_LeaY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xnxqYt0How

[dasboata]

I got to run my veles today. The boat is all stock, including the stock s.s. prop that I prepped myself. not as fast as Mark, but I hit my personal best today of 65.9 mph. Update me Mark!!


https://youtu.be/HSE60P_LeaY

good job Vin you will get faster speeds in salt water where do you park over there in field 10 long walk ??

[MADRCER]

good job Vin you will get faster speeds in salt water
I hate that because i'm always at a disadvanrage running my boats in my freash water lakes.....Maybe you need to really rub on my next prop cause I'm counting on you to make up the differences.:wink:

[kfxguy]

That’s all I ever run in, freshwater. What’s the speed difference??

[MADRCER]

That’s all I ever run in, freshwater. What’s the speed difference??
I'm not sure. Less prop slip they say i've never tried salt water. Maybe I'll chuck a few deer salt licks out and transform mine and test...lol

[vinnyp]

I am no expert in rc boats but i have run offshore power boats in both salt and fresh waters and have seen no noticeable speed differences . Maybe there is a difference in these little hulls we play with, don't know for certain. I don't have any real testing to back up it up either way. In any case, I am not here to try to outrun anybody but myself.

[dasboata]

So the salt water has more buoyancy we found the nitro boat were a few MPH faster

[MADRCER]

In any case, I am not here to try to outrun anybody but myself. That's roughly a 4 mph improvement in this run with both runs being on salt water so you are doing something right. Keep twisting on things and you will improve even more.

[vinnyp]

Thanks mark. You have pointed me in the right direction on a few occasions . It wont be forgotten . After sending you that 1716 to test, i have learned not to take as much off the blades as i was. I think that was key .

[MADRCER]

NEW BEST SPEED! 83.5mph by the gps and 83.26mph (134kmh) by the logger. The boat held 5 steps of 83mph by the logger then It finally blew over. Not bad for a RTR boat on stock electronics running 6s..... Thanks for watching! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrxX6tZRNh8&feature=youtu.be

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[kfxguy]

Congrats! Good job! Do you have an air dam on it?

[MADRCER]

Congrats! Good job! Do you have an air dam on it?

Thank You ! No air dam on it. I might try one next go around.

[danthem]

thanks for the add, Mr.Mad!

[Roman]

Hello!!! I’m planning on upgrade the motor and esc on my veles!! Any recommendations??? I have 1716 not from dasboata but from bonzi. I would like to keep my prop but I want a bigger and faster motor. Appreciate all help.

[danthem]

Hello!!! I’m planning on upgrade the motor and esc on my veles!! Any recommendations??? I have 1716 not from dasboata but from bonzi. I would like to keep my prop but I want a bigger and faster motor. Appreciate all help.

Hull and motor mount are solid on the veles;as for the motor:up to 40x82 will fit easily-additional motor support-plate recommended on the heavy ones though.
Is your veles already fine tuned and maxed out with the stock motor/esc combo?Madrcer has demonstrated more than one time of what the boat is capable if it is well prepped. Also think of runtime as your are limited on that narrow hull to use 3s in series-i once tested 2x 3800 mah 6s in parallel and that was a mess.Good luck.

[TRUCKPULL]

4s UL-19 and "other" 3831 equipped boats

4S - Black Pearl - Spec Sport Hydro- ABC 1815-17-45
59MPH - 60MPH
Setup for racing.

In the list on the right - it says Max speed - 60MPH

I could not find it on the map.

Larry

[Roman]

Yeah!! I saw his videos but I want something that I don’t have to look constantly for temp. I was thinking to use TP 3640 or 3650 with 180 amp esc 2080kv or 2400 kv on 6s

[MADRCER]

Yeah!! I saw his videos but I want something that I don’t have to look constantly for temp. I was thinking to use TP 3640 or 3650 with 180 amp esc 2080kv or 2400 kv on 6s

2400kv is too high for 6s in this boat or any other single equipped boat. Get you a Prather 220 or a x642 prop from dasboata and on 6s temps won't be an issue on with the stock 3831 motor. Speeds will be in low 60's running laps with a decent setup.

[MADRCER]

4s UL-19 and "other" 3831 equipped boats

4S - Black Pearl - Spec Sport Hydro- ABC 1815-17-45
59MPH - 60MPH
Setup for racing.

In the list on the right - it says Max speed - 60MPH

I could not find it on the map.

Larry

Nice Larry! Black Pearl Hydro has been added to the front page.

[Laoki]

O , can i use in veles 29 stock lipo 3s 6000mah 65c ?

[MADRCER]

Yes, Assuming they will fit in the battery tray. Be careful running this boat on 6s (2x3s lipos) with the stock prop will overheat your electronics. If you want to run 6s you will need an Octura x442 prop to safely do so.

[Laoki]

ok tks, for stock set, best battery combo cells?

[MADRCER]

5s is the best option for decent speed and low heat while running the stock prop. (1)-3s pack and (1)-2 s pack of the same mAh and c rating. 5s 5,000mAh will get you around 4min of playtime.

[Laoki]

can i use a rhino 3s 50c 5000mah as 2s 50c 5000mah nano-tech?

[MADRCER]

You could, but by them being made from different companies you could potentially have issues if one was weaker than the other. I would only recommend using the same c rated packs that have the same mAh and that are manufactured by the same company. Those 50c rated nano-tech's I believe are rated at 25-50c, meaning 50c is the max output of the pack. You need a pack that can tolerate at least a 50c discharge such as the nano tech 65-130c rated packs. This forum has a lot of threads on batteries and if you do a search I'm sure you can find answers to all your questions about batteries.

[Laoki]

ok, thanks , what is de bigger dimension lipo i can use in veles 29?

what type issues i can have with diferent companys?

[Nemesis17592]

Is this page still a thing? I am a little late to the party.

I would really like to see strut setups!
Member: Nemesis17592
MPH:68MPH
Prop:Dasboata 1715
ESC: Stock
Motors: Stock
Batteries: (2) 3s REVO 70c

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[MADRCER]

I added you to the front page. It's been pretty quiet on this list for a while. Nice job.