Just joined the Zelos 36" club today

[vinnyp]

I am new to this hobby. I have been running a Motley Crew for a bit and found that I am hooked on this as you guys are. I was going to upgrade the Motley Crew, but decided to keep it as it is and go with the Zelos. I am also into fast full sized boats. I own a fast Checkmate and am a marine mechanic, do it for a living. I am finding this hobby very interesting.
I have been reading through all the threads here about the Zelos. I have PM'ed Raphael , he has answered me quickly and thoroughly. Not everyday you can actually talk to the guy who designed what you are about to spend your $$$ on. Impressive.
Today, I ordered a Zelos 36 from Horizon. Should be here mid next week. I am going to go over it as you guys have described, before it gets wet. I learned a lot here. My next acquisition will be lipos. I am looking at these...


http://www.smc-racing.net/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=399

Any experience good or bad with them? Looking to run 2 3s in series to each motor. As per Raphaels' advise, I have ordered the "Y" adapter from Horizon so as to run the batteries in series to get 6s for each motor.


Thanks for any advice.

[ChevyPrerunner]

Hello and Welcome to the Zelos 36" Club!
Great boat and Rafael is a great guy.
Have fun and enjoy.

Happy Boating,
Brian

[fweasel]

Personally, I choose to run 5000mAh 3S packs. Those 7200 might be physically too big to slide in under the deck, especially if you plan on running 4 packs. I'm a fan of the Revo graphene batteries (http://offshoreelectrics.com/proddetail.php?prod=rev-ys5000) and have had excellent results with them in my Zelos last summer. When you get your series harnesses, make sure they're wired properly. Many are shipped with incorrect polarity and need to be repinned. I also think the red grease that comes in the teflon liners is too thick. I would clean it out and replace with the Proboat blue marine grease.

Fun boat, enjoy!

[vinnyp]

Thanks for the replies. I am planning on running 4 packs. I looked at the specs for both the revo and the tru-spec. The revos are 7mm shorter. Not sure how much clearance there is under the deck. Possibly the tru-specs wont fit?

[mikiek]

Hey Vinny - welcome. Nice to have another "new kid" on the block. The space between where the batteries lay and the underside of the deck is about 37mm. I would figure on 34-35 just to be safe.

[vinnyp]

thanks mikiek

[vinnyp]

My new Zelos just arrived. I ordered 4 3s Lipos today, going to try these. I measured the clearance under the deck, they should fit ok.

http://www.smc-racing.net/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=399

It will be while before it gets wet. I want to go over the boat before using it. Its my busy time of the year at work, so time is a luxury I don't have right now.

I know you guys know what it looks like, but here are a few pics anyway.

[fweasel]

purdy

[mikiek]

Here's hoping you can keep yours in better shape than I have with mine :wink:

[vinnyp]

I'll try to keep it off the walls!! In my case, where I run, there are no walls. Only have to keep it off the beach.

[Mike Caruso]

Props and the running surface just like the full size boats is speed.
Best of luck and enjoy.
Mike

[vinnyp]

I made some time to work on the new Zelos today. First thing I would like to give a little advice to any new guys ( you more experienced guys most likely know to check this ). As was pointed out here on OSE, the water pick ups in the bottom of the hull were in fact partially blocked by paint. First I disconnected the water tube from the esc, so as not to get any paint chips in the motor or esc. Then, I used a small round file to clean out the pick ups. The first went well, the second pushed right through the hull. There was barely any glue holding it in place. I took them both out and epoxied them in place. I wouldn't like to think of what would have happened if the pickup popped out while running. Maybe the motor or esc would fry, or possibly the boat would sink? After going through the rest of the hull, I started to work the props. This is my first attempt to detounge , sharpen and balance props. I used clay to get the blades as close to even as possible. So, please take a look, be critical, let me know what you think. I am pretty sure they can be made thinner. I figure I can spend more time on them when I have some time.
BTW, I got the SMC lipos today. They fit without any issues. I will be running 6s to each ESC. Hoping to run it tomorrow.

[vinnyp]

One more picture...

[mikiek]

I filed down a set of props - or at least I thought I did. I think the consistency between them was good. Then I picked up the CNC replacement set from here at OSE. WOW! They feel paper thin. I have a good example to work towards now.

Good luck tomorrow and have fun. Watch out for walls and harnesses :blush:

[vinnyp]

I got to run the zelos today. It was a bit windy, wind coming from the left of the short video. While I should have known but I guess I had a brain fart. The short video will attest, I should not have been trying to run full throttle into the wind. Luckily, no damage after the flip. The rest of the run was incident free. For my first day running this boat, I was not only happy but impressed with the speed and handling. I don't have a gps yet. That will be coming soon. Maybe 60 mph or so??? Guessing...

https://youtu.be/kCbKO-9jBOw

[pistol18]

Sweet flip and she landed right side up which always helps! Glad you are enjoying the new boat, they are awesome.
When its windy, you can run downwind full throttle and I usally run half throttle into the wind with no issues.

Where did you run? Is that a stadium on the water? looks real neat!

[vinnyp]

That is in Zachs Bay, its part of Jones Beach. The bad part is that it is salt water. That arena in the background is actually an amphi-theatre. There are concerts there during the summer months. Pretty cool to go to, unless you get a bad day weather wise.
Yes, I figured out running slower into the wind and faster going with the wind.... after I flipped it!

[mikiek]

Good to hear you were incident free. Does it really count as a flip if you land right side up? ;)

Were you running with the 4 3S? If yes, where did you place them? Also wondering if the batteries were still in place afterwards?

[vinnyp]

Yes, I am running 4 3s lipos. These...
http://www.smc-racing.net/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=399
I have all 4 lipos pushed as far forward as possible. After the flip, the front lipos shifted around. The rears, stayed pretty good. Being that the front lipos are kind of stuffed under the deck, I cant get 2 hold down straps around them. I was thinking of using Velcro, but the lipos fit a bit tight under the deck, I don't know if I could get them out if they are held down with Velcro.

[mikiek]

Very reasonable price for those.

I suppose as long as you can keep the rear batteries in place the front ones can't do too much damage. I assume yours came with the pool noodles up in the hull. Just wondering - when I hit the wall one came loose. It must have slammed into the motor and knocked that out of alignment which then sheared the cable. I'm sure you probably did, but check the components and make sure they are screwed in tight.

I think having an incident like in your video or mine is not a totally bad thing. It keeps us honest :wink:

[REDLINE1]

Did the same thing last weekend wish I had a video lol. Perfect back flip lots of big air landed perfectly lol. Make sure u check your struts mine got knocked out of wack on the landing

As far as the batteries I use a Velcro strip as wide as the battery. For the front ones I have a thin plastic ruler which is the same width as the batteries Lay the ruler on top of the velcroed battery tray all the way forward under the hull , slide the battery in on top of the ruler then pull the ruler out. To remove the battery reverse the process by lifting up on the rear of the battery and working the ruler in under to separate the Velcro then slide the battery out

Even after my flip none of the batteries moved Velcro worked great

[TheShaughnessy]

Yes, I am running 4 3s lipos. These...
http://www.smc-racing.net/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=399
I have all 4 lipos pushed as far forward as possible. After the flip, the front lipos shifted around. The rears, stayed pretty good. Being that the front lipos are kind of stuffed under the deck, I cant get 2 hold down straps around them. I was thinking of using Velcro, but the lipos fit a bit tight under the deck, I don't know if I could get them out if they are held down with Velcro.
A little trick I learned somewhere along the way concerning Velcro and stuck batteries. Ill try to find a pic but for now i'll do my best to explain it. Get a flexible ruler, or any thin sheet of metal, place it on top of the Velcro in the boat, slide the battery in, slide the ruler out. To remove them you wiggle the ruler back in and it keeps the Velcro from re hooking everything.

[vinnyp]

Thanks for the tips on mounting the lipos. I'll look into that.

[vinnyp]

Yesterday, I finally got the time and had good weather to take my second run with the Zelos. I won a Garmin Forerunner on EBay as well, so I had some #'s to work with. Although I am definitely a novice, I was still expecting better #'s. Unfortunately, I have no videos, since I went alone. The water was as flat as its going to be here. Not like you lake guys, but flat enough. I had the struts set to 4mm, had 4 3S lipos as far forward as possible. The boat seemed to be running slightly wet, but I decided to leave it as it was and run it. With the exception of me detounging and sharpening the props, they are what came with the boat from Horizon. I haven't messed around with any ESC calibration or programming. They are as they came.
I see the speed #'s you guys are posting here. I am no where near that, even compared to the guys still running stock electronics. I am starting to think either I destroyed my props by me screwing around with them, or something is off with the ESC calibrations, or maybe I just suck and should stick to full sized boats. Am I expecting too much from my second run?

[MADRCER]

Yesterday, I finally got the time and had good weather to take my second run with the Zelos. I won a Garmin Forerunner on EBay as well, so I had some #'s to work with. Although I am definitely a novice, I was still expecting better #'s. Unfortunately, I have no videos, since I went alone. The water was as flat as its going to be here. Not like you lake guys, but flat enough. I had the struts set to 4mm, had 4 3S lipos as far forward as possible. The boat seemed to be running slightly wet, but I decided to leave it as it was and run it. With the exception of me detounging and sharpening the props, they are what came with the boat from Horizon. I haven't messed around with any ESC calibration or programming. They are as they came.
I see the speed #'s you guys are posting here. I am no where near that, even compared to the guys still running stock electronics. I am starting to think either I destroyed my props by me screwing around with them, or something is off with the ESC calibrations, or maybe I just suck and should stick to full sized boats. Am I expecting too much from my second run?


Sounds like you might have something amiss. Bring them batteries back some. Those 7200mah SMC'S are heavier than most 3s packs and they are probably holding the nose down too much, especially with 4 of them. I ran 62.2 mph with a stock boat virtually untouched, you should be able to get more than 54.

[mikiek]

Hey Vinny - seems like batteries are a mixed blessing. Do you have any other 3S batteries to compare the 7200mah to? Or can you weigh the 7200mah? I'm using 5000mah 3S and one of those is 15.75 oz. I have said before I wish they were a tad heavier. I have yet to totally pull the throttle because the z is in the air most of the time. The best placement I have found is 2 batteries forward as far as they will go and the other 2 as far back as they will go.

Is the 4mm strut at parallel or did you go up or down?

I know in general, when things are behaving the way you want, sometimes it's best to go back to the defaults - ctrl-alt-del so to speak. Find the best placement for your batteries before you start messing with the struts. Didn't we get 2 sets of props with the boat? Or maybe I bought an extra set. You might try going back to originals. If nothing else, then you'll have some backups.

Stay with it!

[vinnyp]

According to SMC's website, the 7200 MAH weigh in @ 16.47 oz. Not much more than 5000 MAH. I don't think that is my problem. The struts were @ 4mm. As I look at more You-Tube videos of these boats running, the water they are running is much flatter than what I have here. The boats in the videos are running bow high, packing air, not bouncing around at all. Don't think mine will ever be able to run like that, unless I find another place to run. I am sure the bumps are costing me considerable amounts of speed.
Since I attempted to work my props myself, it is totally possible that they are not right. My boat didn't come with any other props. I am trying to get a set of ABC 1814-17-45(2) from OSE. However, the left hand prop is out of stock.
Like the full sized boats I work on, trial and error is the only way to make performance gains. Only I have been doing that for 30 years, only messing with RC boats for 30 DAYS!!!!

[fweasel]

Vinny - If your water is as rough as you say it is, the 1814 props might be too aggressive, and hard on the electronics. You might try a set of x447's or even 447's cut down to 45mm. A professionally prepped set will do wonders compared to the stock 442's. Hit up Dasboata for a set.

[dasboata]

According to SMC's website, the 7200 MAH weigh in @ 16.47 oz. Not much more than 5000 MAH. I don't think that is my problem. The struts were @ 4mm. As I look at more You-Tube videos of these boats running, the water they are running is much flatter than what I have here. The boats in the videos are running bow high, packing air, not bouncing around at all. Don't think mine will ever be able to run like that, unless I find another place to run. I am sure the bumps are costing me considerable amounts of speed.
Since I attempted to work my props myself, it is totally possible that they are not right. My boat didn't come with any other props. I am trying to get a set of ABC 1814-17-45(2) from OSE. However, the left hand prop is out of stock.
Like the full sized boats I work on, trial and error is the only way to make performance gains. Only I have been doing that for 30 years, only messing with RC boats for 30 DAYS!!!!

I have a set of 1814 I can race prep for you ,,,,,,,and thanks Ryan

[vinnyp]

Thanks for the replies..
Dasboata... what do you think about running a set of 1814 in less than ideal water? If you think they would work, can you p.m. a price and an estimate of how long it would take.

[dasboata]

Do you mean ruff ?


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[MADRCER]

Depends on what you call not ideal conditions. Small amounts of chop is ok, but with significant chop you might want to get yourself a fiberglass repair kit and spare motors. I have ran my x447's from Dasboata on rough stuff and with no issues at all and got 71.2 out of them in pretty much any water I put my boat in. Got have a good balance with the 1814's or you could be like cheek and chong...

[vinnyp]

This video I posted a while ago will give a pretty good idea of what the water is like here on a good day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCbKO-9jBOw&feature=youtu.be

[fweasel]

This video I posted a while ago will give a pretty good idea of what the water is like here on a good day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCbKO-9jBOw&feature=youtu.be
That water is fine. I was expecting white caps! :bounce:

[mikiek]

So given the water shown in the video what would be the prop recommendation?

[MADRCER]

x447...Hit Dasboata up I bet he has some.

[vinnyp]

I ordered a pair of x447's from OSE. I also ordered an 1814-17-45(2) clr. The cll is on backorder. I was thinking of going for a set of props done by someone from OSE, but decided against it. I want to learn how to do this myself. Having more experienced guys lead me in the right direction is great and appreciated. However, having someone do the custom work for me is not the way I learned how to make full sized boats faster and wont be the way I learn how to make these boats faster.

[Keagan-Z06]

Hope to see you on the Zelos Fast List soon. You can get a pretty good idea what props works well in that thread.

[Erroneous]

151714. Getting ready to start.

[MADRCER]

According to SMC's website, the 7200 MAH weigh in @ 16.47 oz. Not much more than 5000 MAH. I don't think that is my problem. The struts were @ 4mm. As I look at more You-Tube videos of these boats running, the water they are running is much flatter than what I have here. The boats in the videos are running bow high, packing air, not bouncing around at all. Don't think mine will ever be able to run like that, unless I find another place to run. I am sure the bumps are costing me considerable amounts of speed.
Since I attempted to work my props myself, it is totally possible that they are not right. My boat didn't come with any other props. I am trying to get a set of ABC 1814-17-45(2) from OSE. However, the left hand prop is out of stock.
Like the full sized boats I work on, trial and error is the only way to make performance gains. Only I have been doing that for 30 years, only messing with RC boats for 30 DAYS!!!!

For what it's worth....The weight of your 4 batteries combined are 10oz heavier than the 4 batteries I ran 77mph stock with.


I ordered a pair of x447's from OSE. I also ordered an 1814-17-45(2) clr. The cll is on backorder. I was thinking of going for a set of props done by someone from OSE, but decided against it. I want to learn how to do this myself. Having more experienced guys lead me in the right direction is great and appreciated. However, having someone do the custom work for me is not the way I learned how to make full sized boats faster and wont be the way I learn how to make these boats faster.

I didn't have a clue on what to do to a prop when I started in this hobby and most Pros that work on props that is their livelihood and some don't want to give away their secrets or they could risk seeing a decline in business. So I look around for cheap props that have been balanced and sharpened people sell very cheap from time to time to compare to my stock props if I find a prop that works a significantly better than my stock prop I will try to mimic detail of that one on to one of mine myself and see what happens. If I want to eliminate all possibilities of esc/motor, or set up issues, I fork out the bucks for a professionally prepped prop. Good luck, and let us know how your speeds turn out.

[vinnyp]

151714. Getting ready to start.

I am looking into doing the same thing, particularly since you guys think my batteries are on the heavy side.

[vinnyp]

For what it's worth....The weight of your 4 batteries combined are 10oz heavier than the 4 batteries I ran 77mph stock with.



I didn't have a clue on what to do to a prop when I started in this hobby and most Pros that work on props that is their livelihood and some don't want to give away their secrets or they could risk seeing a decline in business. So I look around for cheap props that have been balanced and sharpened people sell very cheap from time to time to compare to my stock props if I find a prop that works a significantly better than my stock prop I will try to mimic detail of that one on to one of mine myself and see what happens. If I want to eliminate all possibilities of esc/motor, or set up issues, I fork out the bucks for a professionally prepped prop. Good luck, and let us know how your speeds turn out.

I hear you madrcer. Trial and error is the plan. Most times, error!!! Spending the $$ on a set of pro props is not the issue, as it will probably cost me more to screw up several props myself.

[MADRCER]

I hear you madrcer. Trail and error is the plan. Most times, error!!! Spending the $$ on a set of pro props is not the issue, as it will probably cost me more to screw up several props myself.

Me too!! LOL..

[mikiek]

Aawwh man! - More $$$ - just what I need :glare:

[vinnyp]

I got to take the Zelos out for a run today. Did better, still room for improvement. The water was pretty flat. Had the packs as far back as possible, struts at 4mm. Running Octuro x447 that I sharpened, thinned and balanced myself. Boat ran well. Seemed to be running on the rear 2 pads like it should be. Decent speed#, at least for me so far. Didn't flip it, no other crash at all. However, when I came back in, I noticed 1 blade on stb prop must have hit something. Don't know when it happened. could have been in the beginning of the run, maybe at the end. Not sure if it hurt speed #'s or not. I am sure it will, but not sure if the GPS recorded top speed before or after it was damaged. No big deal as far as the prop goes, I was planning to detongue them anyway.
There was an issue that bugs me. When I came back in, the hull had a lot of water in it. I found that the inner forward edge of the stb sponson, right where the 2 halves of the hull meet is cracked and letting water in. Must have happened last time I ran it, but I didn't notice it. This prompted me to expedite my plan of re-enforcing the hull. I stripped the hull down. Got it ready for some carbon fiber laminate to be installed under the battery tray, between the sponsons. Once the battery tray was out, I found the hull to be real soft there. Easily pushed it down with 1 finger. Got the carbon fiber cut out and ready to go, but didn't glue it in. I just want to make sure the hull is 100% dried out, before attempting this. BTW, the flotation that the boat comes with, was saturated with water. That crack must open up under load and allow water to spray in.
I am pretty sure I know how to handle the carbon fiber under the battery tray. What is the best option to strengthen the forward part of the hull, under the deck. I can get my hands under the deck a bit to lay down some carbon fiber between the sponsons, but no way to reach where the crack is. I can fix the crack from the outside, but I want to strengthen that area. I have read that some guys pour a few ounces or resin in , others say fill the entire bow with non expanding foam. I am not liking the foam idea. What if it gets wet? Will it dry out? What is the best way to go with this.

[Erroneous]

Looks like the prop warped. Thinned too much?..

[vinnyp]

Good thought, it may have, I thinned that area quite a bit.

[dasboata]

Zacks bay ?


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[vinnyp]

Yes, I was in Zachs Bay this morning.

[mikiek]

Vinny - if you are referring to the joint where the hull & deck meet, an option is epoxy. You might check out the thread where I had to fix that area after a run in with a cement wall. Seems to be a weak spot in the design if you ask me. Lot's of people with similar cracks.

I'm not talking about the 2 tube stuff from HD. I mean WEST marine epoxy. It starts thin like syrup and you thicken it as required for the application. For the hull I mixed it barely runny.

It's ridiculously hard to get any kind of applicator in there. I used a small brush taped to the end of a dowel. I knew there would be no way to accurately apply the epoxy in there, so the plan (and thus the slightly runny epoxy) was to turn the boat upside down and just slather the joint as best I could, front to rear. Then leave the hull on edge with that joint being lower than anything else. Gravity will pull the epoxy down and into the joint area. Prop up the hull so it stays like that overnight to let the epoxy set. The joint will be hard as a rock in the morning.

There are other fixatives that you could use to do the same thing, the point is just to let gravity help you fill the joint. I have a lot of experience with WEST epoxy so that's what I used.

I am quickly finding out, in this hobby if nothing broke on an outing then you had a good day :smile:

[vinnyp]

Thanks Mike. Yes, I am using West Marine system as well.

[Keagan-Z06]

I got to take the Zelos out for a run today. Did better, still room for improvement. The water was pretty flat. Had the packs as far back as possible, struts at 4mm. Running Octuro x447 that I sharpened, thinned and balanced myself. Boat ran well. Seemed to be running on the rear 2 pads like it should be. Decent speed#, at least for me so far. Didn't flip it, no other crash at all. However, when I came back in, I noticed 1 blade on stb prop must have hit something. Don't know when it happened. could have been in the beginning of the run, maybe at the end. Not sure if it hurt speed #'s or not. I am sure it will, but not sure if the GPS recorded top speed before or after it was damaged. No big deal as far as the prop goes, I was planning to detongue them anyway.
There was an issue that bugs me. When I came back in, the hull had a lot of water in it. I found that the inner forward edge of the stb sponson, right where the 2 halves of the hull meet is cracked and letting water in. Must have happened last time I ran it, but I didn't notice it. This prompted me to expedite my plan of re-enforcing the hull. I stripped the hull down. Got it ready for some carbon fiber laminate to be installed under the battery tray, between the sponsons. Once the battery tray was out, I found the hull to be real soft there. Easily pushed it down with 1 finger. Got the carbon fiber cut out and ready to go, but didn't glue it in. I just want to make sure the hull is 100% dried out, before attempting this. BTW, the flotation that the boat comes with, was saturated with water. That crack must open up under load and allow water to spray in.
I am pretty sure I know how to handle the carbon fiber under the battery tray. What is the best option to strengthen the forward part of the hull, under the deck. I can get my hands under the deck a bit to lay down some carbon fiber between the sponsons, but no way to reach where the crack is. I can fix the crack from the outside, but I want to strengthen that area. I have read that some guys pour a few ounces or resin in , others say fill the entire bow with non expanding foam. I am not liking the foam idea. What if it gets wet? Will it dry out? What is the best way to go with this.

I added you to the Zelos fast list. Good Job, that mph is about what I got with x447s on my first couple tries and topped out around 69mph. What packs are you running?

[Keagan-Z06]

I am quickly finding out, in this hobby if nothing broke on an outing then you had a good day :smile:

Ain't that the truth, Ruth!

[vinnyp]

I added you to the Zelos fast list. Good Job, that mph is about what I got with x447s on my first couple tries and topped out around 69mph. What packs are you running?

I am running SMC 3s, 7200 mah, 131 amps, 90 c

Thanks Keagan

[Erroneous]

Are your SMCs the 3s2p hardcase?

[vinnyp]

Are your SMCs the 3s2p hardcase?

Yes they are the 3s2p. Here is the link for them.

http://www.smc-racing.net/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=399

[vinnyp]

Does anyone know what the thread size of the battery tray screws are?

[Erroneous]

Not sure about the thread count/ designation but I get these. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00HQ6OHAA/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1496929312&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=stainless+rc+screws&dpPl=1&dpID=41gUOyi%2BdyL&ref=plSrch

[Erroneous]

80% of the rc screws you will ever need are in this kit. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B002USD2KK/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1496932472&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=vorza+screws&dpPl=1&dpID=51JW%2BfwB3jL&ref=plSrch

[vinnyp]

Thanks....just ordered the kit.

[James klimowicz]

Hi my name is James and I just purchased a zelos 36. Had it out a few times very impressed with the performance. I want to get some baseline fastest mile per hour runs. Can anyone recommend a garmin gps that would log or hold the fastest run?

Thanks James

[vinnyp]

Most seem to using this unit. However, as far as I know, Garmin has discontinued them. I found mine on EBay.
https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/230

[MADRCER]

Congrats on the new boat! Below are some gps devices that I have or have used in the past. They all three work great.The Dynamite and the Sky Rc one will log the telemetry in the internal memory and you can view it on your computer. The Garmin will only save the fastest speed in the memory. Get one and put it in your boat then head over to the Zelos Fast list thread on this forum and Keagan will put you in the mix.

Dynamite GPS
https://www.amazon.com/Dynamite-DYN4401-GPS-Speed-Meter/dp/B00BIBZUGO

Sky Rc GPS
https://www.amazon.com/SkyRC-SK-500002-Multirotor-Quadcopter-Helicopter/dp/B017UBT0X4

Here are a couple links to the older Garmin Forerunners that a lot of people use as well.(if you search well you will might find a bargain on these)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BRAND-NEW-GARMIN-Forerunner-201-Running-GPS-sports-training-watch-/142420631252?_trksid=p2349526.m2548.l4275
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GARMIN-FORERUNNER-101-GPS-RUNNERS-PERSONAL-FITNESS-TRAINER-/322552844062?hash=item4b19a5cf1e:g:UWsAAOSw-29ZP2gm

[ChevyPrerunner]

Congrats and welcome, as stated above they all work great. I picked up a second hand Garmin Forerunner 201 and works perfectly, is water resistant and holds charge well. Have fun and be safe.

Best,
Brian

[Keagan-Z06]

Garmin Forerunner 201

[James klimowicz]

Brian, Just received my four runner 201 today and was wondering if you could give me a crash corse on just the basics. The instructions are unclear and I've never used one of these? Really how to get the unit to store or show me the mph on each run. Any light on this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks james

[vinnyp]

I was able to get mine set up by playing around with it. It took a while. Maybe this will help.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-bWX_Y_xbo

[Prodrvr]

Garmin Edge 200

[MADRCER]

Make sure you put it in bicycle mode so it will show mph. Make a custom screen and add a section to record the fastest mph.

[ChevyPrerunner]

Brian, Just received my four runner 201 today and was wondering if you could give me a crash corse on just the basics. The instructions are unclear and I've never used one of these? Really how to get the unit to store or show me the mph on each run. Any light on this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks james

Hi James,

sorry for my delayed response. I also checked out the You Tube Vids on this unit online for detailed instructions on how to setup for our type of use. Its quite easy once you set up the custom screens as noted above. Sorry I don't remember off the top of my head how to setup. Let us know if you figure it out and if not I can hop on mine to help out..

Best,
Brian C.

[jch1171]

I am trying to join the 36 club...Ugh! I have not had a very good experience yet. I purchased my Zelos a few weeks ago. The first one I was sent had 2 of the same direction flex shaft and the left drive was completely destroyed within 2 minutes. I was sent a new boat which was great!!! Well........I tightened everything down as I have read on the other forums is necessary. I took her out and she ran great on one set of batteries. I brought her back in and upon inspection the right motor was loose again. I could not get one of the screws to stop turning. I took the motor out and this is what I discovered. I can only think this could have happened during manufacture. The other screw was tight and there is no damage to the teflon. Thank goodness I discovered this now. If that motor came loose it would have been bad! I am very dissapointed. 152640152641152642152643152644

[Keagan-Z06]

I am trying to join the 36 club...Ugh! I have not had a very good experience yet. I purchased my Zelos a few weeks ago. The first one I was sent had 2 of the same direction flex shaft and the left drive was completely destroyed within 2 minutes. I was sent a new boat which was great!!! Well........I tightened everything down as I have read on the other forums is necessary. I took her out and she ran great on one set of batteries. I brought her back in and upon inspection the right motor was loose again. I could not get one of the screws to stop turning. I took the motor out and this is what I discovered. I can only think this could have happened during manufacture. The other screw was tight and there is no damage to the teflon. Thank goodness I discovered this now. If that motor came loose it would have been bad! I am very dissapointed. 152640152641152642152643152644

Sorry to see that, contact Horizon Hobby and see if they will get you sorted out. I know waiting sucks but give it a shot?

[vinnyp]

Wow, that sucks... Sorry to hear about the trouble you have been having. Hopefully, Horizon will step up again. If not, I am wondering how you would go about repairing that? Not easy to cut the entire mount out. From what I have seen, Horizon doesn't list a replacement mount. If you could get it out, might not be too difficult to come up with a good repair. If you cant get it out, maybe its possible to epoxy in a new locknut in the same hole. Don't know if that would hold for long.

[mikiek]

That white stuff they use to mount things in is a joke. A lot of us have had to redo the battery tray because of the same problem. I have not seen a motor mount come loose but it doesn't surprise me.

Unless you can get a replacement you might as well fix it yourself. Don't know what your experience level is for "home repairs" but you'll find you're almost always fixing something with these boats. And to be fair, it's not just ProBoat - stuff breaks! And that doesn't even include mods you might make.

I'd be willing to bet the mount bracket will pop right out with a little prodding. You could epoxy that nut back in place, remove the white stuff and reset the bracket also with epoxy or JB Weld. What stinks is you will probably want to remove everything from the hull so you have better access.

Let's hope you get a replacement. If not, you might want to start your own thread. There's a lot of knowledgeable people here and you should be able to work thru it.

[jch1171]

I have to Say Horizon is standing behind the product. Without any hesitation or question they took responsibility and offered me a new hull but because they are backordered until Sept. They offered to return the boat and either give me my money back or a 3rd new boat. Of course being the junky I am, I opted for the new boat. I hope 3rd time is the charm. The 4-5minutes I got to run, it was a really sweet boat. Fingers crossed!
On a side note...Anyone have any tricks for getting to the screws under the lip. My hands and an allen wrench are too big.

Thanks for the responses!!!

[vinnyp]

If you are referring to the 2 screws that hold the motor mounts together, I use a 1/4" drive swivel head ratchet, with a 2.5 mm allen socket. Works well....

[MADRCER]

I posted pictures of this back in April. See post #1879 in the below link.

https://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/showthread.php?54356-The-official-36-quot-zelos-twin-modding-thread/page63

[jch1171]

Thanks Guys!