Smokin Joe's

[pescador]

Just picked up a gorgeous Smokin Joe's 1/8 scale from a club member. It's Duck's nitro boat he converted to FE it was in a little mishap and needs the windshield replaced (new one came with it), and there was a repair on the sponson that should be repainted. Came with all the hardware, Neu 1527, esc and an extra set of decals.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170414/b7906a31d92a16b6952338e825657c03.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170414/405cdd43daedd92895fdd568822d16c2.jpg


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[TRUCKPULL]

Look's very nice Brian.

Larry

[meangenesracing]

SWEET what did you have to give for that?

[pescador]

Settled on $850 CAN that's like $100 US lol. The second wing in the front is servo controlled, I have a gyro from a drift car I might have to try on it.


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[srislash]

That is very nice. Where in Alberta are you guys running? The wife would like to do an RV journey out there and I would love to check it out.
Shawn

[meangenesracing]

Settled on $850 CAN that's like $100 US lol. The second wing in the front is servo controlled, I have a gyro from a drift car I might have to try on it.


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that's a SWEET deal there

[pescador]

We race in Calgary and Edmonton, our schedule right now is
May 6-7 Calgary
May 20-21 Edmonton
June 3-4 Calgary
June 17-18 Edmonton
July 1-2 Edmonton
Sept. 2-3 Edmonton
Sept. 16-17 Calgary
Nats Oct. 21-28 Las Vegas
You can check our Facebook for updates
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[T.S.Davis]

Very cool. Always been one of my favorite schemes.

Do you guys have enough electric scales to make heats up there?

[pescador]

This boat was #2 and the Executone I'm building will be the third boat. Guess I'll have to hire a driver now lol.


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[don ferrette]

You need my Smokin' Joe's cat to go with that. :bounce:

[fweasel]

You need my Smokin' Joe's cat to go with that. :bounce:
That's what I thought as soon as I saw the post. :rockon2:

[pescador]

Duck has a mono and a rigger painted the same, it would be quite a fleet. :)


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[Moonie]

:ohmy:

[pescador]

You need my Smokin' Joe's cat to go with that. :bounce:

I just realized this is one of your boats :)
Had my first test run on 10s with a X450, it ran great, temps were fine, maxed out at 140 amps.

And happy birthday [emoji512]

[don ferrette]

I just realized this is one of your boats :)
Had my first test run on 10s with a X450, it ran great, temps were fine, maxed out at 140 amps.

And happy birthday [emoji512]
Very cool and thanks!

[chevelledude]

Great looking boat and a super find. Iam still looking for the same hull if you hear of one. Enjoy your new hydro.

[jevmax]

I've got one of those hulls, if you are interested. Shipping is very expensive on these big boats though

[chevelledude]

Please send pics to me at 69ragtopman@att.net and I will let you know. Thanks and what are you looking to get for it? Rich

[JimClark]

Please take it to the FS forum

[f41stryker]

Can you send me a price for the hull also? f41stryker@yahoo.com

[jevmax]

To conform to the rules of the forum, I need to take and post some photos over on the Swap Shop section. Please stand by.

QUOTE=f41stryker;694152]Can you send me a price for the hull also? f41stryker@yahoo.com[/QUOTE]

[f41stryker]

To conform to the rules of the forum, I need to take and post some photos over on the Swap Shop section. Please stand by.

QUOTE=f41stryker;694152]Can you send me a price for the hull also? f41stryker@yahoo.com[/QUOTE]
Who is the hull manufacturer?

[Beaux]

Damn! that's a good lookin boat.

[jevmax]

Damn! that's a good lookin boat.

It could be yours!

[pescador]

Resurrecting my old thread, the Smokin Joes needed a major rebuild after discovering the sealed off area of the transom in the rear winglet was rotten and there big cracks around the winglet. (Where the rudder was attached).
This boat was raced hard as a nitro boat before its FE conversion and there were a number of previous repairs and areas that needed attention. Plus there was a ton of paint to sand, I discovered the cowl was once painted in Winston orange.
I changed the motor mount to a top loader, the old mount was built in before it?s conversion making it impossible to change the motor. Also made a box for the rudder servo that is attached to the back of the main compartment.
Everything is now in primer and pretty much sanded, just need a bit of warmer weather to start putting some colour on.

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[1coopgt]

Looking good. It's a shame that it needed that much work. Can't wait to see it repainted.

[Peter A]

We have a 6 foot version of this in our club. Powered with a Omen big game 35 (gasser).

If this link works here is a vid of it running.

https://www.facebook.com/BOPMPBC/videos/?ref=page_internal

[1coopgt]

We have a 6 foot version of this in our club. Powered with a Omen big game 35 (gasser).

If this link works here is a vid of it running.

https://www.facebook.com/BOPMPBC/videos/?ref=page_internal


Very Cool.

[pescador]

We have a 6 foot version of this in our club. Powered with a Omen big game 35 (gasser).

If this link works here is a vid of it running.

https://www.facebook.com/BOPMPBC/videos/?ref=page_internal

For sure that?s pretty cool. [emoji41]


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[pescador]

Update on my Smokin Joe?s, I finally painted it and finished the decals. Ready for clear and then can get it back together. It got delayed, I had to put together a new nitro scale and I also built a gas Whiplash over the winter. Plus the ML Executone FE 1/8 scale I started years ago is ready for paint.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210727/fe16717b3e553795bf518a19dd1ab72c.jpg
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[fweasel]

looks great

[klloyd67]

Beauties

[pescador]

Finally finished the Smokin Joe?s rebuild [emoji3]
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[pescador]

https://youtube.com/shorts/QlaXj_1IK9M?feature=shared

[MikeDunn]

Fantastic man! Sounds good and looks killer!

[Bande1]

looks really nice. and fast too! was that 10s?

[pescador]

That was 10s but I?m having trouble finding any more big high ?C? 5s packs that will work since Revolectrix closed, I have a bunch of 4s and 6s and they seem to be easier to source so I might have to change it up.
The motor kv is Namba legal for 8s but it sure rips on 10s. 😀

[Bande1]

I have a half dozen 4s packs I got on prime day for $60 a set. recently I picked up a half dozen of these to make 10s

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BRKG5FBH/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

just two 4s and a 2s. I push about 5500w @ 55-58mph with them. not the greatest im sure but they're $25 a set (or they were)

put them in my 6s rigger today for the first time and lapped 7 laps at 66mph they didnt even get warm.

[pescador]

That sounds promising, I have 4?s and 6?s but I was chicken to try a 10s combo with them 😀 Thanks

[Bande1]

That sounds promising, I have 4?s and 6?s but I was chicken to try a 10s combo with them  Thanks

oh dont be scared you totally can mix different cells in series. so long as they're close in mah.

[pescador]

oh dont be scared you totally can mix different cells in series. so long as they're close in mah.

Thanks man I?ll give it a try

[T.S.Davis]

oh dont be scared you totally can mix different cells in series. so long as they're close in mah.

That's terrible advice.

[Bande1]

That's terrible advice.

oh here we go...let me guess its going to catch a boat on fire :olleyes:

[T.S.Davis]

haha No, the battery fairy comes in and sucks yer soul out while yer sleeping.

An old battery supplier dude once told me that batteries with different mah will deliver different voltage under load. Basically the stronger cells will press voltage back into the lower mah cells in an effort to balance everything out. Might be minuscule but in theory would make for nasty ripple into your ESC. Ripple kills.

I honest to goodness have ZERO data to back that up but I had so much faith in the genius that told me that I never asked again. I asked about battery police coming after me at the time. He saw no humor in my question.

For the record.......I made up the battery fairy. Although.........how do they puff up when not running, not charging, nobody around? Battery fairy?

[ray schrauwen]

That's a beautiful rig Pescador. I would love one in 1/10 scale.

[Xrayted]

haha No, the battery fairy comes in and sucks yer soul out while yer sleeping.

An old battery supplier dude once told me that batteries with different mah will deliver different voltage under load. Basically the stronger cells will press voltage back into the lower mah cells in an effort to balance everything out. Might be minuscule but in theory would make for nasty ripple into your ESC. Ripple kills.

I honest to goodness have ZERO data to back that up but I had so much faith in the genius that told me that I never asked again. I asked about battery police coming after me at the time. He saw no humor in my question.

For the record.......I made up the battery fairy. Although.........how do they puff up when not running, not charging, nobody around? Battery fairy?
You are absolutely correct! Mixing different capacity cells is fine for parallel connections but NEVER in series!. Series connected packs must use the exact same capacity cells from the same brand packs and age, as lower capacity cells will naturally have a lower C rating than the bigger capacity cells will. All it takes is one weaker cell with higher IR in the series chain, and that one cell will drag down and damage the other cells that will get hotter having to carry the load it cant, causing their IR start to climb as well, eventually killing the entire pack.

That's how all of our lipos eventually die. It starts with one weaker cells IR starting to climb that slowly kills the others. Mixing different capacity or brand cells with potentially different IRs with each other in series is essentially creating that problem right out of the gate on purpose, which would be a really dumb thing to do

Safe ripple zone is less than 5-7% of the pack voltage at the same measure point, 7-10% means the pack is getting iffy and struggling, and more than 10%-12% means the lipo cannot handle what is being asked of it, and things are in the danger zone for the electronics and the caps ability to keep things from burning. Ripple from any pack is the worst at 50% PWM, and lowest at 100%

[pescador]

You are absolutely correct! Mixing different capacity cells is fine for parallel connections but NEVER in series!. Series connected packs must use the exact same capacity cells from the same brand packs and age, as lower capacity cells will naturally have a lower C rating than the bigger capacity cells will. All it takes is one weaker cell with higher IR in the series chain, and that one cell will drag down and damage the other cells that will get hotter having to carry the load it cant, causing their IR start to climb as well, eventually killing the entire pack.

That's how all of our lipos eventually die. It starts with one weaker cells IR starting to climb that slowly kills the others. Mixing different capacity or brand cells with potentially different IRs with each other in series is essentially creating that problem right out of the gate on purpose, which would be a really dumb thing to do

Safe ripple zone is less than 5-7% of the pack voltage at the same measure point, 7-10% means the pack is getting iffy and struggling, and more than 10%-12% means the lipo cannot handle what is being asked of it, and things are in the danger zone for the electronics and the caps ability to keep things from burning. Ripple from any pack is the worst at 50% PWM, and lowest at 100%

So if the packs are the same manufacturer and capacity but different voltages ie a 4s and a 6s can you run them in series for 10s?


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[Bande1]

You are absolutely correct! Mixing different capacity cells is fine for parallel connections but NEVER in series!. Series connected packs must use the exact same capacity cells from the same brand packs and age, as lower capacity cells will naturally have a lower C rating than the bigger capacity cells will. All it takes is one weaker cell with higher IR in the series chain, and that one cell will drag down and damage the other cells that will get hotter having to carry the load it cant, causing their IR start to climb as well, eventually killing the entire pack.

That's how all of our lipos eventually die. It starts with one weaker cells IR starting to climb that slowly kills the others. Mixing different capacity or brand cells with potentially different IRs with each other in series is essentially creating that problem right out of the gate on purpose, which would be a really dumb thing to do

Safe ripple zone is less than 5-7% of the pack voltage at the same measure point, 7-10% means the pack is getting iffy and struggling, and more than 10%-12% means the lipo cannot handle what is being asked of it, and things are in the danger zone for the electronics and the caps ability to keep things from burning. Ripple from any pack is the worst at 50% PWM, and lowest at 100%

that happens even within a single pack or in parallel. if a cell is weak and drops much faster than the others it happens no matter how you have them wired. in series you take your smallest pack as the nominal capacity. it is 100% fine to run a 4s and 6s combined to make 10s. even if the mah is different you simply go by the smallest pack.

the only way this can be dangerous is if you are running to LVC as if its an alarm to stop. one pack could be wayyy below 3.2v. you can have that happen with identical batteries and you have forgot to charge one. you should never run to LVC as common practice anyway. every ounce of your boat should be eased into starting with low runtimes and brought in. temps checked, cell voltages checked, systems familiarized, data logs and telemetry employed if possible.

[Bande1]

So if the packs are the same manufacturer and capacity but different voltages ie a 4s and a 6s can you run them in series for 10s?


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yes. lipos are just a bunch of single cells wired together anyway. they could make 10 cell packs as one battery if they wanted to. you can wire the packs externally no different than manufacturers wiring them internally. the main caveat is if the mah are way different or age. in that case you can still use them together but you need to check cell voltages closely. which you should be doing anyway even with new packs. one battery could be ran lower than 3.2v and cause it to gas. gassing or puffing a battery, if severe enough, can cause a lipo fire by rupturing a cell and exposing it to oxygen. in order for that to happen it has to be extremely severe over-discharging. far lower than even 2.8v.

you should never run any boat more than a minute or so without checking things. ever. you have to get to know the system slowly and safely so you dont burn up motors, esc, batteries.

[Xrayted]

No Bandel. You never want to wire different capacity cells in series with each other. The lower capacity cells, even if the exact same brand pack and actual C rating will automatically have higher IR and less ability to keep up with the higher capacity cells, because IR is a factor of capacity. A 5000 mAh pack with a theoretical C rating of 10 = 50A, but an identical 4000 mAh pack with the same 10C capability will only be able to deliver 40A under the exact same load, so you NEVER mix capacities into the series connection.

Its like purposely building a single pack with multiple "dying" cells compared to the others right out of the box, and it will cause the larger cells to overheat because they will have to be picking up the slack no differently than a single pack with a cell or two that starts to go bad that ultimately causes the pack to have to be replaced. Why would anyone do this on purpose? The classic "weakest link" of a chain applies always when connected in series. These are basic universal laws of electrical physics that govern this, and aren't open for debate.

Parallel is fine mixing capacities because the pack just becomes one big battery of the total capacities, and the IR of the pack goes down as the pack capacity gets bigger as IR is inversely proportional to capacity. The individual cells voltage will all normalize as the higher voltage from one cell flows into any lower voltage cells from one pack to the other.

Nothing like this is happening in series, so capacity must stay the same, and as already stated, ideally you dont want to mix different cells from different brands or different age packs, so that your final series connected packs have cells that are as close to each other performance wise as possible.

I also fly helis, and have one dedicated 150 MPH 14HP speed competition model where we run 12-16S packs using dual 3000-5000 mAh packs in series depending on the voltage used. You wouldn't find anyone that would ever mix capacities in a situation like this, no more than you will ever see any 12S boat guys that know what they doing running mixed capacity packs in series either

[ray schrauwen]

You mean you can't put say 2s and 4s together for 6s in series even if they are matched MAH?

That would explain my smokin' joes entry into Q mono over a decade ago at London pond. Toasted all 4 packs and a SF240. After that I went with 2-6s packs in parallel. 2 sets of 2s + 4S was a bad idea.

[Bande1]

A 5000 mAh pack with a theoretical C rating of 10 = 50A, but an identical 4000 mAh pack with the same 10C capability will only be able to deliver 40A under the exact same load, so you NEVER mix capacities into the series connection.

so first of all you can wild swings in IR in the same pack. or with the same set of packs. what you would do with a situation with one pack having a far lower C/higher IR is prop for the lowest common denominator. 40a would be your target load since it is your weakest battery. If the OP bought two 5s packs he could easily have a cell or two 2-6 milliohms different.

what you do with situations like this is monitor the packs. you do a few laps then check cells. if you see dramatically lower cell or pack you stop. You never run the boat below 20% or 30% even better due to this possibility of cell drop out.

you should be assuming that most lipos are about 15c anyway.


You mean you can't put say 2s and 4s together for 6s in series even if they are matched MAH?

been doing it for 20 years. doing now in my rigger. no different than 3s+3s for 6s, or 2s+2s for 4s. those 6s packs you have are just 1s cells wired in series.

[ray schrauwen]

With a lot less R from wire and 5.5mm bullets.

[Bande1]

With a lot less R from wire and 5.5mm bullets.

you dont use 8awg wire and 8mm bullets?

[ray schrauwen]

Not then I didn't. Batteries were not up to it either.

[Xrayted]

You mean you can't put say 2s and 4s together for 6s in series even if they are matched MAH?

That would explain my smokin' joes entry into Q mono over a decade ago at London pond. Toasted all 4 packs and a SF240. After that I went with 2-6s packs in parallel. 2 sets of 2s + 4S was a bad idea.Yes, you can wire any combo of packs together in series as long as the capacity is the same between the two packs. You cannot mix capacities when in series. This is electrical physics 101, and anyone claiming otherwise has no understanding of even the most basic principles and universal laws involved here.

[Xrayted]

so first of all you can wild swings in IR in the same pack. or with the same set of packs. what you would do with a situation with one pack having a far lower C/higher IR is prop for the lowest common denominator. 40a would be your target load since it is your weakest battery. If the OP bought two 5s packs he could easily have a cell or two 2-6 milliohms different.

what you do with situations like this is monitor the packs. you do a few laps then check cells. if you see dramatically lower cell or pack you stop. You never run the boat below 20% or 30% even better due to this possibility of cell drop out.

you should be assuming that most lipos are about 15c anyway.



been doing it for 20 years. doing now in my rigger. no different than 3s+3s for 6s, or 2s+2s for 4s. those 6s packs you have are just 1s cells wired in series.
Is is so painful for you to just admit that you might have something to learn? Everything you just wrote is nonsense. No, there aren't "wild swings" of IR within the same pack of 2-6 Mo. 6 Milliohms per cell on a 5000 mAh pack is a pack that needs to be thrown out, and you think a normal lipo has cells that are "swinging wildly" from each other by those amounts?

No such thing is happening in any healthy lipo when in use, and if so then that is a dud pack to begin with and needs to be thrown out. And of course, you use packs that are the same brand and bought at the same time when using two packs in series so that the cell quality and IR of the cells is similar, but YOU NEVER MIX CAPACITIES WHEN WIRING PACKS IN SERIES! IT WILL DAMAGE BOTH BATTERIES!

Your continued claims and rambling defense of doing so otherwise is just making you look foolish. Put your ego aside and do a little research. A simple google search on the subject "should" show you just how silly your constant claims otherwise are, but I feel this still may not matter with you. We are all ignorant of things we dont yet understand, but most will learn and move on. However, there are those that are shown the truth and will still never accept it despite all the evidence otherwise. Those types aren't ignorant, they are fools. Here, I will even help you with the search: https://www.google.com/search?q=can+you+mix+capacities+when+wiring+batter ies+in+series&sca_esv=564145755&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS998US998&sxsrf=AB5stBihGt0ZX5T9OEnS7cTOGaLOzy4ctQ%3A1694346 264992&ei=GKz9ZOyJPID2kPIPiuSkqAk&ved=0ahUKEwjs9YDa-5-BAxUAO0QIHQoyCZUQ4dUDCBA&oq=can+you+mix+capacities+when+wiring+batteries+in +series&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiNmNhbiB5b3UgbWl4IGNhcGFj aXRpZXMgd2hlbiB3aXJpbmcgYmF0dGVyaWVzIGluIHNlcmllcz IKEAAYRxjWBBiwAzIKEAAYRxjWBBiwAzIKEAAYRxjWBBiwAzIK EAAYRxjWBBiwAzIKEAAYRxjWBBiwAzIKEAAYRxjWBBiwAzIKEA AYRxjWBBiwAzIKEAAYRxjWBBiwA0jPZFC_BliVR3ABeAGQAQCY AV2gAbACqgEBNLgBDMgBAPgBAcICBRAAGKIEwgIKECEYoAEYww QYCuIDBBgAIEGIBgGQBgg&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Ive said enough hopefully prevent anyone new to all of this from following your terrible advise if they happen to come across this discussion, so I'm out

[fweasel]

Thank you Xrayted. Good link.

[Bande1]

Is is so painful for you to just admit that you might have something to learn? Everything you just wrote is nonsense. No, there aren't "wild swings" of IR within the same pack of 2-6 Mo. 6 Milliohms per cell on a 5000 mAh pack is a pack that needs to be thrown out, and you think a normal lipo has cells that are "swinging wildly" from each other by those amounts?

No such thing is happening in any healthy lipo when in use, and if so then that is a dud pack to begin with and needs to be thrown out. And of course, you use packs that are the same brand and bought at the same time when using two packs in series so that the cell quality and IR of the cells is similar, but YOU NEVER MIX CAPACITIES WHEN WIRING PACKS IN SERIES! IT WILL DAMAGE BOTH BATTERIES!

Your continued claims and rambling defense of doing so otherwise is just making you look foolish. Put your ego aside and do a little research. A simple google search on the subject "should" show you just how silly your constant claims otherwise are, but I feel this still may not matter with you. We are all ignorant of things we dont yet understand, but most will learn and move on. However, there are those that are shown the truth and will still never accept it despite all the evidence otherwise. Those types aren't ignorant, they are fools. Here, I will even help you with the search: https://www.google.com/search?q=can+you+mix+capacities+when+wiring+batter ies+in+series&sca_esv=564145755&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS998US998&sxsrf=AB5stBihGt0ZX5T9OEnS7cTOGaLOzy4ctQ%3A1694346 264992&ei=GKz9ZOyJPID2kPIPiuSkqAk&ved=0ahUKEwjs9YDa-5-BAxUAO0QIHQoyCZUQ4dUDCBA&oq=can+you+mix+capacities+when+wiring+batteries+in +series&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiNmNhbiB5b3UgbWl4IGNhcGFj aXRpZXMgd2hlbiB3aXJpbmcgYmF0dGVyaWVzIGluIHNlcmllcz IKEAAYRxjWBBiwAzIKEAAYRxjWBBiwAzIKEAAYRxjWBBiwAzIK EAAYRxjWBBiwAzIKEAAYRxjWBBiwAzIKEAAYRxjWBBiwAzIKEA AYRxjWBBiwAzIKEAAYRxjWBBiwA0jPZFC_BliVR3ABeAGQAQCY AV2gAbACqgEBNLgBDMgBAPgBAcICBRAAGKIEwgIKECEYoAEYww QYCuIDBBgAIEGIBgGQBgg&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Ive said enough hopefully prevent anyone new to all of this from following your terrible advise if they happen to come across this discussion, so I'm out


you're right, series wiring is bad.


I only do 100 laps a week
177863

[Bande1]

Yes, you can wire any combo of packs together in series as long as the capacity is the same between the two packs. You cannot mix capacities when in series. This is electrical physics 101, and anyone claiming otherwise has no understanding of even the most basic principles and universal laws involved here.

now its mah being different. cool story.

[Xrayted]

you're right, series wiring is bad.


I only do 100 laps a week

177863Of course wiring in series is fine. That was never the point of any of my replies to you. It was the incorrect claim by you that using different capacities was OK when using packs in series that me and other members were telling you was a terrible idea, starting with TS Davis in post #42.

Everyone here reading this knows what we were talking about and so do you, so dont waste your time now trying to change the narrative around to something it never was now that you are stuck with nowhere else to go

[Bande1]

Of course wiring in series is fine. That was never the point of any of my replies to you. It was the incorrect claim by you that using different capacities was OK when using packs in series that me and other members were telling you was a terrible idea, starting with TS Davis in post #42.

Everyone here reading this knows what we were talking about and so do you, so dont waste your time now trying to change the narrative around to something it never was now that you are stuck with nowhere else to go

what happens exactly if you run different size packs?

[ray schrauwen]

The reason why my series setup smoked was because the cells were not up to the task. I went cheap and used 5.5mm plugs with 4" of wire per pack. The motor was asking too much of them.

[MikeDunn]

Which yellow and purple from House of Colors did you use? The paint codes is what I am after.

Mike

[pescador]

Here?s what I used
178040

[pescador]

From the plans

178041

[MikeDunn]

Thank you! I have a 1/8th currently.

Mike

[MikeDunn]

Are you interested in selling your build plans/ paint decal plan sheet?