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Steven Vaccaro
11-08-2008, 12:03 PM
As requested by several members/customers, I bought a bunch of the etti esc's. Quite an impressive looking esc. I will post the specs and pictures tonight.

Ub Hauled
11-08-2008, 04:23 PM
AWESOME STEVEN!
I can't wait to see those ESCs in action and see some solid numbers...

Jeff Wohlt
11-08-2008, 06:39 PM
They are awesome....I am told. I have one but have not tested it yet. Hope to before the water is hard here. There are many that have run these and say they rock.

I would grab them while he has them....you won't be sorry.

Doug Smock
11-08-2008, 07:11 PM
I saw a Etti 150 make several passes at the SAWs in a N-2 hydro:thumbup:, it replaced a new Hydra 240 that didn't survive a mill with the same setup.:eek:

Doug

Raydee
11-08-2008, 07:18 PM
If they make one that is High voltage I may have to dump my HV180.

JimClark
11-08-2008, 07:41 PM
So the Etti's work with wheel radios no problem?

Doug Smock
11-08-2008, 08:00 PM
So the Etti's work with wheel radios no problem?

I know this one does Jim,

ETTI 150A Water-cooled Brushless Navy ESC 2-7S Lipo OPTO
SKU: ETTI29

Doug

Raydee
11-08-2008, 10:34 PM
That is the one that may replace my HV180 if Castle doesn't do something about the 1.4 firmware before next season starts.

RayR
11-09-2008, 01:29 AM
Ray,

It handles 6S no problem.

All the best,

Ray

Bill-SOCAL
11-09-2008, 01:41 AM
As requested by several members/customers, I bought a bunch of the etti esc's. Quite an impressive looking esc. I will post the specs and pictures tonight.


Don't tease us Steven!! Info please

Steven Vaccaro
11-09-2008, 08:10 AM
http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/proddetail.php?prod=etti-esc-race-150

Raydee
11-09-2008, 09:00 AM
Nice price, I hope they are still around come spring time.

Jeff Wohlt
11-09-2008, 09:36 AM
Mine has dual signal inputs so you can run bec or without and you just plug the other wire in :)

Doug Smock
11-09-2008, 09:42 AM
http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/proddetail.php?prod=etti-esc-race-150


That's her, I was impressed with this control.:thumbup1:
And the price......sweet!!!!!!!!!

Doug

Raydee
11-09-2008, 11:28 AM
So the Etti has the Smock seal of approval ;)

I will def have to give one a shot.

SJFE
11-09-2008, 11:57 AM
All the latest product additions & continuing excellent service prove OSE is the Premier FE store bar none. Thanks for your hard work Steven.

Flying Scotsman
11-09-2008, 12:19 PM
Can you purchase a progammer for this or does it have to done via the radio?
Impressive looking ESC

Douggie

focused
11-09-2008, 02:00 PM
Using the ETTI 125amp for over a year now with no problems , it even got wet and it still works fine. The price for the 150 in the shop is amazingly low , steven :w00t:.

ETTI got a lot of good stuff for sale and has his own website now http://www.etti.com.hk/ besides selling on ebay.


grtz

Michiel.

Steven Vaccaro
11-09-2008, 04:23 PM
[quote=focused;62063]Using the ETTI 125amp for over a year now with no problems , it even got wet and it still works fine. The price for the 150 in the shop is amazingly low , steven :w00t:.

[quote]

$150 is a introductory price. I want to get them out there to prove themselves.

focused
11-09-2008, 04:50 PM
[quote=focused;62063]Using the ETTI 125amp for over a year now with no problems , it even got wet and it still works fine. The price for the 150 in the shop is amazingly low , steven :w00t:.

[quote]

$150 is a introductory price. I want to get them out there to prove themselves.


That wont be a problem , we use them a lot in the netherlands and in belgium too but the germans still thinking that the china stuff is crap or copied so it cant be good if it inst from germany :sarcasm1:

highndry
11-09-2008, 06:49 PM
I have one, havent tried it yet. It looks very robust and well made, not to mention easier to prep than a CC, but with the x-rate and shipping, came to ~ $ 200+ US. Propnut used one in establishing a new Saws record. Dont recall the set-up

highndry
11-09-2008, 06:53 PM
If you can get them out there for that price, I think you will have a winner

Doug Smock
11-09-2008, 07:14 PM
[QUOTE=highndry;62102] Propnut used one in establishing a new Saws record. Dont recall the set-up[/QUOTE

That was the Q Sport ( 6s) Hydro record.:cool:

Doug

Bill-SOCAL
11-09-2008, 07:40 PM
Well, I am going to take one for the team. I have one on the way for my new 32" DF CyberStorm.

4S2P - 1521/1.5D


I had planned on a CC Hydra 180. I'll let you know how it goes.

raptor347
11-09-2008, 10:16 PM
If it will really hold up to 6S, I'll have to try them in a new project.

Not to poke at the sore spot of escs but is there a warranty?

Bill-SOCAL
11-10-2008, 12:31 AM
To paraphrase a great movie:

Warranties?? We don't need no stinkin' warranties!!

Hopefully my little mono won't be too much for it!!

If it is, well screw it, I'll put a pop-tart in and be done with it!!

Ub Hauled
11-10-2008, 12:36 AM
For those of you that speak Castellano... there is a joke that goes for these kinda products...
once you buy it and then ask about warranties, the seller goes... "la garantia soy jo" (the warranty is me), implying that it does not need a warranty.:spy:
I always liked that one... if it makes no sense, I guess it does not translate the same.:sorry:
I know there are lots of people using Ettis and they are recommended, but a warranty is always welcome.
BTW, I am not trying to imply that Etty is a bad product, it's just the warranty thing...

Bill-SOCAL
11-10-2008, 01:06 AM
I have not been overly impressed with warranties so far.

I have 2 burnt up motors lost in limbo with a well known US motor maker (sorry, we have no record of receiving them), 2 other motors sitting in the Fatherland waiting for a decision and a Pop-Tart waiting on some kind of development in the case.

So I now look at a warranty as worth a grain of salt. I'll give the Etti a try even though Yoda says try I should not, but try it I will. If it burns up. Oh well.

Avanti
11-10-2008, 01:16 AM
You can give a POS a warranty, but that will not make it a good product.

I have seen highndry's etti and it looks like a quality unit.

Bill-SOCAL
11-10-2008, 01:30 AM
And you can give well known and top rated products a warranty which in my experience have turned out to be pretty much meaningless.

Like I said, I don't put much stock in them any more. So I am not worried in the least about what kind of warranty the Etti has, or does not have.

Avanti
11-10-2008, 01:37 AM
very true Bill

and then your well know company can change the rules as they go

Flying Scotsman
11-10-2008, 01:00 PM
This ESC uses capacitors that are very different in design to what Schulze and Castle use. I would love an electronic guru to chime in as to whether ETTI's design offers any perceived advantage?

Douggie

Ub Hauled
11-10-2008, 01:45 PM
one advantage in my book is the fact that you don't have to worry about breaking one of their legs... now one disadvantage is the fac that one cannot easily add capacitors since they are surface mount.

focused
11-10-2008, 01:59 PM
now one disadvantage is the fac that one cannot easily add capacitors since they are surface mount.


ETTI has made a print with 10 capacitors , no disadvantage, LINK (http://www.etti.com.hk/product_info.php?cPath=3&products_id=186) :banana:


Michiel.

raptor347
11-10-2008, 02:07 PM
ETTI has made a print with 10 capacitors , no disadvantage, LINK (http://www.etti.com.hk/product_info.php?cPath=3&products_id=186) :banana:


Michiel.

OK! Now I'm seriously interested. This is the first time a company has taken the use of extra capacitors seriously.

I know it's made a huge difference in the lifespan of my Castles. I add 4x470's to all my LV castles escs.

focused
11-10-2008, 02:18 PM
OK! Now I'm seriously interested. This is the first time a company has taken the use of extra capacitors seriously.

I know it's made a huge difference in the lifespan of my Castles. I add 4x470's to all my LV castles escs.

No ETTI is not the first , the German Company YGE made also huge capacitators for there esc , LINK (http://www.yge.de/artikel.php?search=ygecaps9) .

Michiel.

Ub Hauled
11-10-2008, 02:33 PM
I find it great that they have capacitor banks for the Ettis as well... like Brian stated, this is getting to be a really interesting ESC, it's not just a product slapped together, it seems they have things thought out.

Meniscus
11-10-2008, 02:52 PM
No ETTI is not the first , the German Company YGE made also huge capacitators for there esc , LINK (http://www.yge.de/artikel.php?search=ygecaps9) .

Michiel.

That looks like a pretty good shock! (wondering where the tubes are, LOL)

raptor347
11-10-2008, 03:16 PM
No ETTI is not the first , the German Company YGE made also huge capacitators for there esc , LINK (http://www.yge.de/artikel.php?search=ygecaps9) .

Michiel.

I stand corrected. I haven't looked at the YGE line or any german esc in about 3 years.

ghostofpf1
11-10-2008, 08:58 PM
I have been running one of these in a 4s 8xl 33" mono this summer and it has held up just fine. At the price Steven is selling them I couldn't pass up the chance to buy another

ghost

hkusp45
11-11-2008, 03:32 PM
These look very good! Steven, any chance of you getting the cap banks too?

Steven Vaccaro
11-12-2008, 07:29 AM
I will pick up the banks on the next order. These are almost sold out at this price, thanks guys!

JimClark
11-12-2008, 01:39 PM
Steve any thought of ordering the rest of the line of marine esc's?

Jim

focused
11-12-2008, 03:00 PM
Steve any thought of ordering the rest of the line of marine esc's?

Jim

Good suggestion , maybe the 125amp which can handle the 6s lipo :rockon2: .


Michiel.

Bill-SOCAL
11-12-2008, 03:24 PM
The 200 amp and the cap board. Umm, tasty!!!!

RayR
11-12-2008, 05:09 PM
Careful what you wish for, most of the rest of the line are stacked boards like the Castle's.

The 200 amp ETTI appears to be the same as the HiModel 200 amp you can buy for $62.50.

All the best,

Ray

Bill-SOCAL
11-12-2008, 05:46 PM
FWIW I got my ETTI 150 today from Steven. Sure I ordered it late Sunday night and Tuesday was a mail holiday, so I am not going to get all impressed about getting out here in SOCAL today (Wednesday). Any Whooooooo...

First, it is larger than you get the impression from the photos. It's about 1/2 inch longer and wider than a CC Hydra 120. Feels good, nice heft and looks to be very well made. It also appears to have a conformal coating on it.

Nice piece of work, even if I did have to wait "so" long to get it from OSE. Typical. I hate waiting. Probably use the fact that the PO was closed Tuesday to explain why it took 3 days to get here!!! :roflol:

Eodman
11-13-2008, 09:49 AM
Yeah Bill I know what you mean I ordered mine on Sunday and didn't get it till Wednesday and I'm in NJ! But what you gonna do!

I'm going to use mine in a MM build this winter! Hoping to run in "P" Offshore class with a 9 XL. We'll see!

Steven Vaccaro
11-13-2008, 11:15 AM
Sorry for the shipping delays. Dam them post men for taking a day off!!! :huh:


Steve any thought of ordering the rest of the line of marine esc's?

Jim


Ray is correct. Plus the rest of the line is nice, but there are a bunch of things that would overlap my current offerings.

Meniscus
11-13-2008, 11:27 AM
I am glad to see that the products everyone is suggesting are being purchased. I'd hate to see Steven have to sit on the inventory. :( As it stands, it looks like JIT mentality.

or maybe just mental, LOL!

Eodman
11-13-2008, 11:39 AM
In my former life I was told many times I was mental! Does that count for anything????

Meniscus
11-13-2008, 11:49 AM
Are you sure that wasn't someone at home telling you that? LOL! I know I hear that from time to time (in denial that its not all the time).

Eodman
11-13-2008, 11:59 AM
No Meniscus it was usaully the guys in my outfit! They said that about all us EOD guys!

cacofonix
11-26-2008, 04:25 AM
hi folks

one question about voltage, it's written 30v but only 7S ...(7x3.7=25.9 and 8S=29.6 v)
i'm looking for an ESC than can run 8S .....

thanks

cacofonix
11-26-2008, 04:26 AM
hi folks

one question about voltage, it's written 30v but only 7S ...(7x3.7=25.9 and 8S=29.6 v)
i'm looking for an ESC than can run 8S .....

thanks

focused
11-26-2008, 05:17 AM
hi folks

one question about voltage, it's written 30v but only 7S ...(7x3.7=25.9 and 8S=29.6 v)
i'm looking for an ESC than can run 8S .....

thanks


No , one lipo cell gives more voltage right from the charger then 3,7v its 4,2v if you put a full charged 8s lipo you get 33,2v then it will malfuntion or whatever it will do :flashfire:.

So dont use 8s lipo on a 30v Esc .

grtz
Michiel.

cacofonix
11-26-2008, 05:33 AM
hi

thanks for your answer, so my only solution is to use a HV esc, from CC or other......

Kfoss1
11-26-2008, 12:11 PM
Steven, when is the next batch of ETTI 150`s coming in? Same price?

Steven Vaccaro
11-26-2008, 12:48 PM
I should have the next batch in a few days, same price.

Kfoss1
11-26-2008, 01:31 PM
Thanks Steven!

westbeach
11-30-2008, 10:23 PM
I should have the next batch in a few days, same price.

Any ideas if these are on route or still a few weeks off? Would like one, and if possible put on hold for me as I will out of town from mid Dec till end of the year. Thanks Steve! :thumbup1:

Steven Vaccaro
12-01-2008, 06:33 AM
I just checked the tracking and its on a plane somewhere. I will hang on to one for ya, just send me an email on the ose contacts page.

Steven Vaccaro
12-01-2008, 06:33 AM
I just checked the tracking and its on a plane somewhere. I will hang on to one for ya, just send me an email on the ose contacts page.

westbeach
12-01-2008, 08:44 AM
I just checked the tracking and its on a plane somewhere. I will hang on to one for ya, just send me an email on the ose contacts page.

Steve,

email sent via OSE contact page. Cheers

Neal:thumbup:

planezero
12-03-2008, 08:25 PM
OK! Now I'm seriously interested. This is the first time a company has taken the use of extra capacitors seriously.

I know it's made a huge difference in the lifespan of my Castles. I add 4x470's to all my LV castles escs.

So if I wanted to beef up my CC Hydra 120, how many 35V 560mF capacitors would I solder in parallel ? 4?

BILL OXIDEAN
12-04-2008, 09:14 AM
I used an ETTI 125 to bump N-2 offshore SAWS record at the LA SAWS
I have sevral versions, many that I used at the 2008 nats, I took 2nd in LSH with the 70 amp and 2nd in N-2 hydro with the 200 amp version (discontinued)

ETTI makes LOTS of REALLY neat products, their struts propelled my micro hydro to 50mph with a 19-turn motor!!

Awesome water Jackets clear! GREAT prices on everything too..

They have a product that I REALLY want to try.. A SAWS capacitor bank to wire into your existing 150 to give it more "punch" for all out power!

Check it out!! http://www.etti.com.hk/index.php?language=en

BILL OXIDEAN
12-04-2008, 09:41 AM
For those of you that speak Castellano... there is a joke that goes for these kinda products...
once you buy it and then ask about warranties, the seller goes... "la garantia soy jo" (the warranty is me), implying that it does not need a warranty.:spy:
I always liked that one... if it makes no sense, I guess it does not translate the same.:sorry:
I know there are lots of people using Ettis and they are recommended, but a warranty is always welcome.
BTW, I am not trying to imply that Etty is a bad product, it's just the warranty thing...

Umm.. I've sent back 6 and have had ZERO problem with warranty..
Dee Chan over at ETTI is a WONDERFUL person very passionate about these little boats, and the end user.. And for the record communicates Quite well in english..

We must never SPECULATE how companies will respond..
These guys are good, and their products seldom fail.. The speedos that went out were from "shorted-out" motors, and user error (grossly over-amped):tiphat:

Steven Vaccaro
12-04-2008, 01:37 PM
Etti esc's are in. Cap banks are also in.

Darin Jordan
12-04-2008, 01:57 PM
Etti esc's are in. Cap banks are also in.

Steven,

Do these work with other ESCs besides the ETTI?? Do you have a shot of how they hook-up??

Diegoboy
12-04-2008, 01:59 PM
I must have been reading your mind Darin! :eek:

Darin Jordan
12-04-2008, 02:03 PM
I must have been reading your mind Darin! :eek:


That's a little frightening... :tongue_smilie:

http://baltimore.indymedia.org/usermedia/image/12/large/star_trek_vulcan_mind_meld.jpg

Flying Scotsman
12-04-2008, 02:10 PM
As requested Darin.

Douggie

Diegoboy
12-04-2008, 02:12 PM
Thanks Douggie

Steven Vaccaro
12-04-2008, 02:33 PM
Douggie is that your picture? If so can I have permission to use it on OSE products site?

Flying Scotsman
12-04-2008, 03:33 PM
Douggie is that your picture? If so can I have permission to use it on OSE products site?

Steven, it is from the ETTI site. You have a PM

Douggie

Bill-SOCAL
12-04-2008, 04:34 PM
I too am interested in how much "headroom" this board will give us. I have a couple coming to play with and will report any findings or fryings.

Flying Scotsman
12-04-2008, 04:48 PM
Bill, how will you determine this in a scientific method. Same boat, same setup, etc and then compare the results with an ESC with and one without the added cap protection, and the method of comparing results. Just currious, but way to go. We await your results

Douggie

Bill-SOCAL
12-04-2008, 06:03 PM
Bill, how will you determine this in a scientific method. Same boat, same setup, etc and then compare the results with an ESC with and one without the added cap protection, and the method of comparing results. Just currious, but way to go. We await your results

Douggie


Who said anything about "scientific"??

I'll just run bigger and bigger props until something blows!!! :rockon2:

Flying Scotsman
12-04-2008, 06:24 PM
Who said anything about "scientific"??

I'll just run bigger and bigger props until something blows!!! :rockon2:

I just bust a gut on that answer.:bowdown::bounce: It should have said documented method

Douggie

Bill-SOCAL
12-04-2008, 06:40 PM
And I know how to do it too. I have a fired 2280, fried 3060, TWO fried 1527s and a a pair of toasted 40.160s to prove it too!!!

Documentation will be in the form of "Holy Crap!! I guess that prop WAS too big after all"!!!

calcagno45
12-04-2008, 06:45 PM
And I know how to do it too. I have a fired 2280, fried 3060, TWO fried 1527s and a a pair of toasted 40.160s to prove it too!!!

Documentation will be in the form of "Holy Crap!! I guess that prop WAS too big after all"!!!


I surely wish I had that type of funding? I blew a $55 HiModel and almost died...

Flying Scotsman
12-04-2008, 06:45 PM
Bill, as usual you have supplied the goods. My God, I would not want to be your banker.
Thanks for taking so many for the team.:tiphat:

Douggie

Flying Scotsman
12-04-2008, 06:56 PM
Gentleman, Bill pushes the envelope on all his boats and also has an engineer's viewpoint on the process of what you can and can not do...WITHIN LIMITS.

Douggie

Bill-SOCAL
12-04-2008, 08:03 PM
Limits?? We don't need no steenking limits!!!!

As far as my BBQ collection goes, perhaps you can see why I race gas boats now!!!!

Steven Vaccaro
12-05-2008, 07:30 AM
IMPOPRTANT. I just realized they shipped me the 6-16 cell version, not the 6-20 cell. I will be trying to straighten this out asap.

calcagno45
12-05-2008, 08:10 AM
Good catch Steven!!

Steven Vaccaro
12-05-2008, 08:30 AM
Would have been a better catch if I did so before listing them for sale and selling a few! :doh:

Steven Vaccaro
12-05-2008, 09:41 AM
I just found out that when I asked for the race 150 WITH bec, that the max voltage is only 5s/16 nimh cells. It was my mistake to overlook that spec.
I will have the race 150 6s/20nimh with NO bec in about 2 weeks.

Bill-SOCAL
12-06-2008, 10:50 AM
double post

Bill-SOCAL
12-06-2008, 10:55 AM
I'm confused. The one I have here has a label on the top that reads:


Input Voltage 6-30V
Current 150A
NiMH 6-20 Cells
LiPo 2-7 Cells
Resistance 0.001 ohms

The instruction sheet has a table across the first page that says this:



Type: ETTI 150-6-20
Voltage: 6-30V
Amp (A): 150
FET: 30
IR (ohms) : 0.001
NiMH Cells: 6-20
LiPO Cells: 2-7
BEC: NO
Size (mm): 95x50x13

Doesn't matter to me, I will be running only 4S, but the label is not 5S or 6S as Steven in noting.

So which one do I have??

Steven Vaccaro
12-06-2008, 11:41 AM
Yours doesnt have a BEC. There is a lower voltage model that does have a bec, thats the one I have. I have more of the higher voltage NON-Bec coming in a week.

Bill-SOCAL
12-06-2008, 12:04 PM
So the first batch was correct and it was the second batch that was the lower voltage. Got it!!

Steven Vaccaro
12-06-2008, 12:37 PM
So the first batch was correct and it was the second batch that was the lower voltage. Got it!!


Yes.

What happened was when reordering I was told about the bec version. I jumped on it without looking at the max voltage. So I ended up with a bec version of less voltage. Which isnt a problem, since lots of people want a bec and only use 4s. But I will continue to stock both escs.

Bill-SOCAL
12-06-2008, 12:49 PM
Did they ever provide any specs on the Cap board? I snagged a couple for testing, etc. Adding 10 big caps has to make a difference, but it would still be good to know what the actual numbers are from them.

westbeach
12-06-2008, 08:24 PM
I just found out that when I asked for the race 150 WITH bec, that the max voltage is only 5s/16 nimh cells. It was my mistake to overlook that spec.
I will have the race 150 6s/20nimh with NO bec in about 2 weeks.

Hi Steve,

Placed my order for the ETTI, can I get the ETTI w/o BEC for 6S setup Please! Thanks.
Neal

Steven Vaccaro
12-06-2008, 08:29 PM
Bill I'm working on those specs. All I have now is the 35 volts. I "assume" its for 7s lipo max, but you know what happens when you assume.:biggrin:

Neal we spoke by email. I will have you an esc in a week or so.

Bill-SOCAL
12-06-2008, 08:50 PM
35 volts should get you up to 8S. The big caps on my ESC are all 35V.

The top is stamped

81L
470
35V

westbeach
12-06-2008, 09:08 PM
No rush on shipping the ESC Steve. I will be out of town in a weeks time till the end of the month. Just chimed in because of what I just read about the High/Low Bec/Non-Bec versions of the ETTI. :thumbup:

BILL OXIDEAN
12-06-2008, 10:55 PM
I just wanted to add that the 100a 6-16 is a reliable and suprisingly strong running speedo as well..

I changed the rotor in my 4.5 Novak, and the boat's running strong, I'll have vid in a few days..

I think the cooling plate works REALLY well.. The flat design allows superior cooling to the fets

Steven Vaccaro
12-09-2008, 09:55 AM
The Race 150 6-20 NiMh / 2s-7s lipo esc's are in stock now. Also more capacitor boards came in.

Bill-SOCAL
12-09-2008, 10:30 AM
I got the capacitor board yesterday. They are every bit as nicely done as the ESC. Sealed with a conformal coating just like the ESC.

BILL OXIDEAN
01-04-2009, 08:13 PM
My ETTI sponsons just landed, and can I say WOW!?

Straight lace SAWS sponsons, zero dihedral FIERCE hydro/arerodynamics the carbon work is better than anything I've seen on ANY market including imports!

I'm speechless about 'em.. They're so nice, I don't wanna' drill 'em out LoL..

Check 'em out on the ETTI site..

Scott T
01-04-2009, 10:06 PM
I just wanted to add that the 100a 6-16 is a reliable and suprisingly strong running speedo as well..



Bill,

You seem to have a bit of experience with the Etti controllers. Any chance you could could help me in my thread?

http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/showthread.php?t=5956&highlight=etti

Thanks,
Scott

Meniscus
01-08-2009, 05:22 PM
My ETTI sponsons just landed, and can I say WOW!?

Straight lace SAWS sponsons, zero dihedral FIERCE hydro/arerodynamics the carbon work is better than anything I've seen on ANY market including imports!

I'm speechless about 'em.. They're so nice, I don't wanna' drill 'em out LoL..

Check 'em out on the ETTI site..

Let me know when you do drill them, I'm headed there next with mine.

BILL OXIDEAN
01-08-2009, 05:34 PM
Let me know when you do drill them, I'm headed there next with mine.


Will do.. I spoke with Dee from ETTI and he showed me pics of his..
They're drilled all the way through with telescoping carbon booms and aluminum collars..
I'll try to post pics..

Is it just me, or do they look like an engeneering marvel? How did they mold 'em seamless like that but airtight and hollow? FEATHER light

Meniscus
01-13-2009, 10:58 AM
Yeah, I just wish they had foam in them. As I haven't drilled them yet, I cannot confirm that they don't have foam in them. In my opinion, all sponsons should have foam just in case, well you know what happens. It would be a shame to watch one go to the bottom of the lake!

And WOW! They are feather light! I haven't weighed them yet, but they weigh near nothing.

Why don't we take this to PM or a different thread in order not to clutter this thread with unrelated items, other than the manufacturer. Have you seen my build using these sponsons? You are welcome to post the pictures there.