2016 West Florida Model Boat Club

[HRC]

I guess its time to start a new thread for 2016

[RayR]

Thanks Dave!

Guys the first Test N' Tune of the year is scheduled for this coming Sunday the 10th.

Have you renewed your NAMBA membership yet?

[RayR]

Thank You Brian (RCKong)!

[HRC]

Wow, only took 6 days to get my NAMBA card...nice :)

[skater368]

Pro Marine RC will be in town Sunday to demo SKATERS and MTR RTW boats. can't wait to meet you guys. Who do i contact in Ft Myers?
Mike

[HRC]

Sunday looks like it may be doable to run. The rain should be over by then hopefully.

[HRC]

Pro Marine RC will be in town Sunday to demo SKATERS and MTR RTW boats. can't wait to meet you guys. Who do i contact in Ft Myers?
Mike

If weather holds out we should be running in Bradenton Sunday. Brian (RCKong) and Rich (Richard) are down that way. You could shoot them a PM.

[RayR]

Thank you, Hugh

[RayR]

Thank you, Richard T.

[RayR]

Weather is looking o.k. for Sunday so far.

Who is in and what are you bringing?

There are still several notable members who have yet to renew their NAMBA membership.

[HRC]

I plan on having P and T mono.

[RayR]

T mono? YeeHaa!

I Will have P-Mono and Q-Cat.

[HRC]

Oh Boy...winds are sure going to pick up by 1:00 PM.

[Pennstater]

Did you guys get a chance to run today (1/11)? What times do you normally run on the two Sunday's a month?

I just got back into RC boating. Been doing 1/10 off road for awhile (just bashing) and occasionally fly with my dad down off of 69th St. E near Buffalo Creek Middle School. I have been into RC since I was a kid. Back in September 2015 my dad got our old 40" Wardcraft Deep Vee down out of the attic. He was going to give it away but I grabbed it, repainted it and converted it from nitro to FE. It is no where near what you guys appear to be running, but on its maiden voyage it was fast enough for me on half throttle. It still needs some setup work done to it I'm sure but it was pretty exciting.

I live up in Tampa near downtown and will probably be running it in saltwater (I know, corrosive). It took awhile to get it cleaned up after the first run, but not too bad. I sprayed the heck out of the drive train with Corrosion X after rinsing everything in fresh water. Hopefully this will be enough to keep it clean.

Anyway, just been lurking on your threads trying to see what's up. The pics of your boats on your website are very impressive.

Take care,

Matt

[RayR]

We had a good Test n' Tune day yesterday, with lots of new folks hangin out. We normally get started around 10:00 on the 2nd and 4th Sundays of the month.

[skater368]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um5mXVUOJ-k

[TRUCKPULL]

I will see you guy's in a few weeks.

Larry

[ron1950]

well I am sure I am not notable but I have renewed just now:banana:

[RayR]

Everyone is noteable, thank you Ron. Rich and Chris have yet to renew.

[RayR]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um5mXVUOJ-k


Very cool!

[HRC]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um5mXVUOJ-k

Nice, thanks for posting Mike

[rdcracer]

I will be next week. How about club dues when are they due

[RayR]

I will be next week. How about club dues when are they due

Rich, I believe we need to have a club meeting to discuss club dues. I know it is difficult when everything is due at one time. As well, we didn't get to run a lot in the later half of last year, so most folks are wondering what they paid for last year. I think we should move club dues renewal to June, but we should discuss it as a group.

[ron1950]

you get my vote hell....ama namba and club dues all due at once...june would be good

[rdcracer]

you get my vote hell....ama namba and club dues all due at once...june would be good

Amen to that. Throw all the money spent on holidays and I am broke about now. I vote for June to break things up.

[RayR]

A bit of news for those willing to travel. The speed control restrictions for IMPBA D13 (Atlanta) have been eliminated for the P-Ltd classes. Any speedo is now permitted. Next D13 race is in southern Georgia (Sowega model boaters) the end of February.

[RCKong]

Quiet on here... any of you plan on running boats Sunday ? Looks like the weather may be favorable for a change

[ron1950]

wow that's good news ray....ive been after them to change that rule for a few years with a silent protest lol.....I raced in Atlanta a few years ago and hated the esc rule...

[flraptor07]

Quiet on here... any of you plan on running boats Sunday ? Looks like the weather may be favorable for a change

We're lookin at 50deg. or so and winds NNW @ 10-12mph.

[RayR]

I'm in for P-Mono and P-Sport Hydro. Gonna be a little chilly, but not too bad.

[RayR]

Who's in and what are ya bringin?

[richard]

ray I in .i bringin my p monoand sprint cat

[RCKong]

I'll be there with P Mono, P hydro, LSO and Q.

[bill34207]

If the forecast wind direction does not change between now and Sunday I'll most likely drop by. Wind speed doesn't look bad but the direction is not conducive to flying at SRQ.

[rdcracer]

I'm in for P-Mono and P-Sport Hydro. Gonna be a little chilly, but not too bad.

Ray what are the rules for p-Sport hydro. What motor.

[obrien]

I don't have anything to race but I might bring my tunnel down for a couple runs after the racing is done. I have a q boat but no batteries yet. My old ones died

[TRUCKPULL]

Ray what are the rules for p-Sport hydro. What motor.

Rich

"P" Sport Hydro has NO Motor rules

Now if you mean "P" Spec. Sport Hydro then you want the UL1 Motor.

Larry

[RayR]

Ray what are the rules for p-Sport hydro. What motor.

Rich,

What Larry said. I think this class is really going to take off. There are now motors and speedo's available for little more money than a P-Ltd setup allowing the use of a larger 34" boat. Faster, more reliable, fewer blow overs.

With one caveat: Unless it is overtaken by Q-Sport Hydro, which is even more reliable (less amp draw) and more stable (bigger boat).

[HRC]

I plan on being there with P mono and a couple laps with a rigger. Hope the forecast is right.

[Pennstater]

In order to run boats at your club, do you have to have a boat that fits into a certain "class?" Is one of the Sunday's a "race" day and the other a "test & tune" day? How serious are the races? I guess I'm asking about the culture of the club; is it a group of like-minded guys getting together to have fun running boats or is it really serious racing club with guys trying to qualify for district/regional/national type events?

I have a 40" deep vee running 10s with a Leopard 4092 930kv Motor. What "class" would this be in (if any)?

Thanks,
Matt

[bill34207]

In order to run boats at your club, do you have to have a boat that fits into a certain "class?" Is one of the Sunday's a "race" day and the other a "test & tune" day? How serious are the races? I guess I'm asking about the culture of the club; is it a group of like-minded guys getting together to have fun running boats or is it really serious racing club with guys trying to qualify for district/regional/national type events?

I have a 40" deep vee running 10s with a Leopard 4092 930kv Motor. What "class" would this be in (if any)?

Thanks,
Matt

With 10s that would be a "T mono" but your hull is actually more of a Q class in length. S/T boats can be up to 60"

[RayR]

In order to run boats at your club, do you have to have a boat that fits into a certain "class?" Is one of the Sunday's a "race" day and the other a "test & tune" day? How serious are the races? I guess I'm asking about the culture of the club; is it a group of like-minded guys getting together to have fun running boats or is it really serious racing club with guys trying to qualify for district/regional/national type events?

I have a 40" deep vee running 10s with a Leopard 4092 930kv Motor. What "class" would this be in (if any)?

Thanks,
Matt

Hi Matt,

we are mostly a group of like minded guys who get together to run for fun. Not too serious on race day, and yes, one weekend is fun running, the second sunday is for racing. A 10s boat will have a difficult time "stretching it's legs" on our smallish 1/8th mile course

please come on over and check it out!

[Pennstater]

Thanks all for the replies. I won't be able to make it tomorrow but I'll try for the next one (and if I'm correct, that should be 2/14 (second Sunday of February)).

[rdcracer]

Just paid for NAMBA but it gave me a new number and wouldnt let me pick my old one. Not very user friendly especially if you are computer challenged.

[richard]

rich just call them and there will give you your old number.i had the same problem rich

[rdcracer]

Thanks After I paid I sent an email to them. Have to see what happens. It would be a real pain to change the numbers on my boats.
Walked outside to walk the dog. 38 degrees and windy. Not my kind of boating weather. I think I will stay home and change my P-spec hydro to a p-sport hydro. I have a TP 2000kv. How does that sound for power?

[TRUCKPULL]

Thanks After I paid I sent an email to them. Have to see what happens. It would be a real pain to change the numbers on my boats.
Walked outside to walk the dog. 38 degrees and windy. Not my kind of boating weather. I think I will stay home and change my P-spec hydro to a p-sport hydro. I have a TP 2000kv. How does that sound for power?

Rich
Motor KV is in the ballpark - 4S-2P and you should be good to go.

Larry

[rdcracer]

Thanks Larry. I just heard back from NAMBA and they fixed it. Fast response. Man it is still cold and windy. Didnt break 50 here.

[RayR]

Thanks Larry. I just heard back from NAMBA and they fixed it. Fast response. Man it is still cold and windy. Didnt break 50 here.

Al Waters is a super guy! Fast response time to everything, even on the weekends.

[HRC]

Guys, here are the vids and photos Bill took today. Thanks Bill !!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkqUUYG1DA4&list=PLWp7KZlp7jBVw3-qnPyib2HVAtSPdC41W

[bill34207]

Thanks Dave. I meant to put that up earlier but got sidetracked and forgot about it. Good old CRS.

[HRC]

Thank YOU Bill for getting them :)

I thought the GPS was not on in my rigger but after cleaning off the nastiness after I got home it was on. It was reading 82.1 MPH. I don’t think it was that fast on the last back stretch but is what it was showing.

[rdcracer]

Wow you guys ran. It was freezing here.

[flraptor07]

Wow you guys ran. It was freezing here.

It wasn't too bad here rich, light wind maybe 5mph or so and it got up to around 53deg.. started out about 41deg.

[TRUCKPULL]

Hello Guy's
I will be in FL. on Monday Feb. 1th. and out to the race on Feb. 14th.
Is anyone interested in clear hockey tape??
These rolls are 1" wide and 30 Meters long (not 15M)
30 meters = 33 Yards

$1.75 per roll or $1.50 per roll for 4 or more.

I am going to buy it on Fri. so let me know please.


Larry

[RCKong]

Yea Larry I'm good for another bulk roll

[RayR]

Larry,

If this is "Renfrew" tape, I will take 4 rolls.

did you get the "Pearl" done?

[flraptor07]

Hello Guy's
I will be in FL. on Monday Feb. 1th. and out to the race on Feb. 14th.
Is anyone interested in clear hockey tape??
These rolls are 1" wide and 30 Meters long (not 15M)
30 meters = 33 Yards

$1.75 per roll or $1.50 per roll for 4 or more.

I am going to buy it on Fri. so let me know please.


Larry

Larry, I'll take a sleave, how many rolls in a sleave 10 or 12?

[richard]

larry I will take 4

[TRUCKPULL]

Larry,

If this is "Renfrew" tape, I will take 4 rolls.

did you get the "Pearl" done?

Hello Ray
Pearl is done, ready for paint and hardware.
It is called "R" Brand, made by "Renfrew" for Canadian Tire stores.

Larry

[TRUCKPULL]

Larry, I'll take a sleave, how many rolls in a sleave 10 or 12?

Chris - 12 in a sleeve.

Larry

[RayR]

Well, since Bill has abdicated the website throne, I had to learn how to maintain the website. Since I have no intention of learning HTML coding, I built a new one with one of the Drag and Drop Website builders called Weebly. It has some limitations on the number of pages allowed, but I did the best I could for a first try. Check it out and let me know what you think.

http://www.wfmbc.com/index.html

[Pennstater]

Nice job on the new site!!! The info on the boat classes is really appreciated. I really want to get down there soon, although I think Valentine's Day might be a tough one to make, so perhaps the 28th. I think I might go run the boat this morning after breakfast.

[flraptor07]

Awesome Job on the new web site Ray! It looks great!

[RayR]

Thanks Guys.

[RayR]

Join us on Facebook!

https://www.facebook.com/groups/529601763719875/

140698

[rdcracer]

Anyone have a TP 2200 or close motor

[RayR]

...sorry, error in interpretation.

[flraptor07]

Anyone have a TP 2200 or close motor

I'll have to look Rich, I think I have a TP4060 1860kv.

[rdcracer]

I am looking for one like I put in the BBY
I got from you It was like a 4060 2050kv or something but all the ones that size are sold out.

[RayR]

140718

Rich,

In stock at TP, Follow the link:

http://www.tppowerusa.com/motors/in-stock/tp-4050-2200-kv

[rdcracer]

Thanks Ray I was trying to find it on OSE and they were all out of stock. I appreciate it.

[TRUCKPULL]

Every body ready for Sun. the 14th.

Larry

[RayR]

We can tell Larry hasn't run a boat in while.

I plan on being there

[rdcracer]

I'll be there

[RayR]

So far, Larry, Rich and Me. Who else is coming?

[TRUCKPULL]

So far, Larry, Rich and Me. Who else is coming?

Dave is coming also.

Larry

[HRC]

Yes I plan on it

[TRUCKPULL]

Here are a few pic's from Feb. 14th.

#1 - Mark's Cat just after he hit something.
#2 - You can see the rudder kicked up
#3 - All aired out

Larry

[TRUCKPULL]

#1 - Kim & Mark
#2 - Dave and his BIG Mono

Larry

[RayR]

Good Pics!

[HRC]

Nice, thanks for posting Larry.

[ron1950]

what hull is that cat that hit something?

[flraptor07]

Ron, That's one of those new Pro Marine Skater hulls.

[rdcracer]

Hey guys I have one of the all black 2000kv TP motors I got from Scott when I first started with you guys. Does anyone know what size speed control I need for this. I want to put it in my Jersey skiff for now and have a Hobby Wing 120 amp speedo. Is that enough or do I need one with higher amp rating?

[Pennstater]

I am going to try and make it down to the lake on 2/28. Is 2/28 still a go (assuming good weather)? I think I remember the start time being around 10:00; is this correct?

I know the second Sunday of the month is "race day"; would it be okay if I brought my deep vee to run (this would be my first visit and I do not have a NAMBA membership)?

Thanks,

Matt

[TRUCKPULL]

Hey guys I have one of the all black 2000kv TP motors I got from Scott when I first started with you guys. Does anyone know what size speed control I need for this. I want to put it in my Jersey skiff for now and have a Hobby Wing 120 amp speedo. Is that enough or do I need one with higher amp rating?

Rich
What cell count and prop size are you looking at??

Larry

[rdcracer]

Rich
What cell count and prop size are you looking at??

Larry
Hey Larry I will be running 4s and around a 442 or 445 prop. I will downgrade to a Proboat 1800 for racing but for playing I thought I would motor up a bit.

[RayR]

Matt,

Assuming the weather holds, we will be there.



I am going to try and make it down to the lake on 2/28. Is 2/28 still a go (assuming good weather)? I think I remember the start time being around 10:00; is this correct?

I know the second Sunday of the month is "race day"; would it be okay if I brought my deep vee to run (this would be my first visit and I do not have a NAMBA membership)?

Thanks,

Matt

[TRUCKPULL]

Hey Larry I will be running 4s and around a 442 or 445 prop. I will downgrade to a Proboat 1800 for racing but for playing I thought I would motor up a bit.
Rich

I should have also asked what size is the motor? 3674? 4070? ETC.

Larry

[RCKong]

I plan on running this weekend at Encore. I'll bring
LSO
P-Hydro
P-Mono
Q

[TRUCKPULL]

I will be their Sun.

LSH
"P" Cat -Offshore or Oval

Larry

[rdcracer]

Rich

I should have also asked what size is the motor? 3674? 4070? ETC.

Larry

4070

[TRUCKPULL]

4070

Rich

With that motor and your setup.
The 120 may be right at the small limit.
It will be OK for the Limited setup.
For the 4070 you may need a 180A.

Larry

[HRC]

I will be there but ran out of time to get any boats ready.

[Pennstater]

Fun day today. Nice to meet everyone. Thanks for letting me run out there. Glad the wind died down.

[RayR]

Glad to have had you there. Come on back anytime.

[HRC]

Some vids from today. Not as good as Mr. Bill but......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAQ9QhmnM1A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00iSKQSDVog
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMWQXYEErA0

[richard]

looking good dave.thanks

[HRC]

Last 2 of the day, thanks Richard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OEmuFI7eEQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlpbEYirooo

[TRUCKPULL]

Thank You very much Dave
Now I can get a better look of how my hull is running.

Larry

[RayR]

Thanks Dave!

[rdcracer]

Sorry I missed it All these charged batts and no where to run. Had to bail at the last min. See you guys next time

[rdcracer]

Hey I was looking at a for sale ad and in it they were selling Hyperian HV 4s 15.2V batteries. They showed 4.35 V per cell.
Are these legal to use?

[bill34207]

Hey I was looking at a for sale ad and in it they were selling Hyperian HV 4s 15.2V batteries. They showed 4.35 V per cell.
Are these legal to use?

If you don't charge above 4.2 per cell nobody should complain. Unless you happen to be at a NAMBA event, then it might get you a DQ.

[RayR]

What Bill said, even at a NAMBA event there is no problem if you do not charge over 4.2V.

[TRUCKPULL]

You have to have a charger that is able to adjust the MAX voltage.

Most chargers when set to 4S will max out a 16.8 Volts

At the NAMBA race in MI. last year, they were periodically checking max voltage per cell when people were getting ready to tape up.

Larry

[RCKong]

Larry, what bearings did you get for those leopard motors you have ?

[TRUCKPULL]

Brian

I got mine here from OSE;
http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/proddetail.php?prod=boc-ceramic-hyb

I took one apart first and measured it to make sure I ordered the right ones.

I believe that they were 5 X 11 X 5

Larry

[rdcracer]

I was wondering because at Car races before you race you have to go through tech and if each cell is above 4.2 you are a DQ.

[TRUCKPULL]

I was wondering because at Car races before you race you have to go through tech and if each cell is above 4.2 you are a DQ.

In the new righting of the NAMBA rules;
MAX for any individual cell is 4.230 volts

If any cell in your pack measures 4.231 you are DQ.

Larry

[HRC]

Looking like the winds will be a bit strong for Sunday guys. 18 MPH by 1 PM.

[RayR]

Who's coming on Sunday? Weather looks like this:
http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=141473&stc=1

[bill34207]

Well... I won't be flying planes this Sunday for sure. I'll wait and see who's coming before I decide on a trip to Encore.

[TRUCKPULL]

If it stays like it says, I may pass on this SUN.

Lets see what is says tomorrow??

Larry

[klbo]

So let me ask you guys a question. I have a 58 inch V bottom hull with steps running A single motor with 10s 2p batteries what namba class would the boat fallen under I thought offshore ?

[TRUCKPULL]

So let me ask you guys a question. I have a 58 inch V bottom hull with steps running A single motor with 10s 2p batteries what namba class would the boat fallen under I thought offshore ?

NAMBA rules-

That Hull would have to run Offshore seeing that the hull is stepped.
With 10s 2p onboard it would run is "T" class

A lot of race clubs run "S" & "T" together or call it open Offshore.

Offshore is a 4 min. race with a full lap mill so plan on running at least 4 1/2 min.

"S" & "T" class boats are allowed 12,000 m Amps on board.

NO boat will be more than 35lb. ready to run, or over 60" in hull length.

Larry

[RCKong]

If it doesn't rain we are going to run down here this weekend. We have cover from the wind.

[klbo]

Thanks for the great Answer kinda hard to find in the namba rulebook

[HRC]

If anyone wants to brave the wind I will be a spectator but no boats for me.

[RayR]

Forecast is actual worse than yesterday.

[TRUCKPULL]

Maybe next Sat. or Sun. will be better??

Larry

[TRUCKPULL]

Anybody go to the pond today??

Larry

[HRC]

Hey Larry,
Mark and Dan (new club member) did some LSO testing. Several flips but landed right side up with the wind. I think Ray only had to use the rescue boat 3 times.

[TRUCKPULL]

Rich

I sent you a PM

Larry

[RayR]

Mark has had these trophies made up for a P-Limited Cat/Mono Race on April 17th. More details on the Facebook page. Please let me know if you plan to enter a boat for the race.
http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=141774&stc=1

[richard]

ray I will enter a boat.

[RayR]

Thanks Rich. That makes five that I know of Rich T, Brian, Mark, Rich C. and Dan so far.

[RayR]

Guys,

The 14 lap final heat for Mark's race has been changed to a 4 minute heat.

[RayR]

This Sunday.

I have had a number of people asking if we are running this Sunday (Easter). Mark, Dan, Larry and Doc all want to run, who else wants to run?

[richard]

ray I will not be there going to new York sunday.

[HRC]

I will not be there. Prior commitments.

[RCKong]

I cant make it either.

[majorpat]

Hi Racers, been down south this winter, but am in Bradenton now. Will you guys be running this Sunday at Encore about 10am? I have some boats and equipment to unload and want to offer it to you guys first. I can email pictures ,mostly 30-32 inches monos and cats including 2 twin cats. All boats are RTR.

[RayR]

We plan on being there. Who all,is planning on coming?

[HRC]

I plan on being there.

[RCKong]

I'll plan on making it up there, Rich said he is going too.

[HRC]

Anyone wanting to go to the pond Sunday?

[RayR]

Yes!

[bill34207]

I have a prior commitment for this weekend. http://sarasotarc.com/4_events_awards_dwt/air_fair_2016/srq_air_fair_2016.html

[RayR]

Mother's Day this weekend. I will not be running. If anyone wants to run we need to make arrangements for pickup of the trolling motor and battery.

[HRC]

I will not be there.

[RayR]

Guys, need a head count for Sunday. And what classes you will be running.

[HRC]

I plan on being there but no boats.

[HRC]

Looking like a good turnout for tomorrow :)

[RayR]

2016-2017 Club Dues

Ok Folks, it’s time to replenish the club kitty. As we discussed in January, we have moved the club dues date to June 30, so it’s time for everyone to kick in their share. $40 is due by June 30th. After purchasing a new battery for the retrieve boat last Sunday, the current balance in the club account is $566.75

As well, we would like to update all of your contact information i.e. address, e-mail and cell phone number. Please shoot me an e-mail or PM with your current info. If you are not planning on renewing, we would like to know that as well.

Currently members who are already paid through June of 2017 are:

Mark Neimann
Dan Lawerence
Doc Craig
Ed Goebel
Michael Stancombe

Fair Winds and Following Seas,

Ray

[RayR]

http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=146916&stc=1

[HRC]

Video of my twin cat running today in rough water.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwWcWO9-NB0

[RayR]

Omar's Avenger 36 Q Twin

https://youtu.be/gUJtkdDCnXk

It is fast, but I am unsure whether it make 6 laps in that configuration.

[bill34207]

Not sure of what he is running for motors & props but mine was fast and could run a full 4 minutes as a twin.

[RayR]

Test N' Tune this weekend Dec 11.

[RayR]

Just so anybody not on Facebook knows, the club has jumped on the bandwagon with a one year trial of the 36x61 motor rule for P-Ltd.

[sailr]

The wfmbc website isn't working? I get a strange page with all chinese on it?

[obrien]

I think all of the club info has moved to Facebook now

[RayR]

The wfmbc website isn't working? I get a strange page with all chinese on it?
When the cost for the website exceed $125/yr several years ago, we gave it up.

[sailr]

When the cost for the website exceed $125/yr several years ago, we gave it up.

Thanks Ray. I was trying to refer someone to the club and the website didn't work. I'll direct them to the facebook page.