Starting 1/8 scale T5 build, need critique of my proposed setup

[nichismo]

Potential Hydroplane Setup for ⅛ scale, 8s to 10s. Need prop recommendations and any other tips and information would be greatly appreciated. :)

Hardware:
http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...d=ros-spdr-012 -
http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...-SPDS-011-250R

ESC:

http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/proddetail.php?prod=hef-HB80200L

Motor:
http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...?prod=leo-5698 (910kv)


Other Potential ESC choices:
http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...king-130-hv-v3
http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...prod=etti-e064
http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...prod=etti-e065

I really only chose from what is available and in stock here at OSE, as I would like to purchase the motor and ESC in particular at the same time from one source, as I am hoping that I could have the soldering and watercooling setup for me so I can just "plug n play" when I receive them.

I am new to electrics and this is basically my first build. I dont really need alot of speed, I dont plan to race anytime soon, I basically would like to shoot for 45mph minimum, 50-55 being ideal. I just want it to be reliable and not too expensive at this point, as acquiring a good scale hull set me back much more than I woud have liked, but im pretty excited for it nonetheless. I have a scale T5 from Phil Thomas coming in the next couple weeks.

[JMSCARD]

How big is this boat length and width wise? If you're looking for a budget setup, you can also look towards large outrunners.... heli types as they are high speed (rpm) motors and work well in 1/8 projects, obviously coming to mind is the 4035/800 scorpion or hyperion motors... they will def achieve what you're looking for and more speed wise, in fact on 8s you should be in the 50mph range.... and reliable as well with low amp draw.. heck you can use a HV80 turnigy esc and be good to go! you can youtube 4035/800 1/8 scale and see lots of hydros in the 1/8 size using this very setup... long known reliable, low cost, and sounds great ta boot!

[nichismo]

How big is this boat length and width wise? If you're looking for a budget setup, you can also look towards large outrunners.... heli types as they are high speed (rpm) motors and work well in 1/8 projects, obviously coming to mind is the 4035/800 scorpion or hyperion motors... they will def achieve what you're looking for and more speed wise, in fact on 8s you should be in the 50mph range.... and reliable as well with low amp draw.. heck you can use a HV80 turnigy esc and be good to go! you can youtube 4035/800 1/8 scale and see lots of hydros in the 1/8 size using this very setup... long known reliable, low cost, and sounds great ta boot!

Well ive already paid and ordered the hull, it should be here late next week hopefully. Its 44 inches long, im not so sure about the width however. At this point, the build is pretty much long past the overall "budget" stage, the main reason I use the term budget at this point is that ive already got the general consensus of typical hardware for this caliber boat, however this boat by no means is constructed with the intention to race competitively (at least not right away), so I figured with a slightly lower standard I could save a little money. I wasnt intending on getting this specific hull (although I been dreaming of it for some time), and on top of that I wasn't ever planning on buying this size of hull if I did indeed acquire one (Ive been wanting a 1/10). But I caved.... lol

So most people I have seen with 1/8 scale modern hydros are usually utilizing Neu motors 1512 and up, and 240a ESCs on 10s lipo, I really dont need that much speed, and I cant afford that anyway. The hull and scale aesthetics were more important than the speed, that being said I would still like to get to 50mph. The components I just listed, vs the setup I suggested in my OP is probably a 250$ difference or more.

Im mainly concerned with the prop and ESC. I have no idea where or what kind of prop to purchase, and I also am not very wise to speed controls. If I just want 8s and a Leopard 5692, is a Hv swordfish 200amp like the one in my OP sufficient? I might as well just buy a more expensive and powerful ESC anyways, so I dont need to do as much work to upgrade my motor down the line.

[JimClark]

This link from RCU's site should be of help http://www.rcunlimiteds.com/#!fe/c1pdy
they for the past couple of years have run 1/18th scale electrics and this is their setup

[Make-a-Wake]

I built a 50 incher several years ago and ran it on 9s2p with a Castle 2028, hit 60 mph.

The 5698 on 8s2p will power it fine and should get you around 50 if that is enough for you.

If you haven't already ordered the motor you may want to consider the 56110 for a few bucks more

[nichismo]

I was actually considering the 5692 so that I could get a better quality ESC, ive been told by a few people that If possible to opt for an Etti or Seaking ESC rather than the swordfish ones.

I guess the prop I end up using will be a pretty influencing factor? I seriously dont know anything about props, should I buy a balancer and balance my own? so that I can perhaps fine tune my setups? or should I just buy a pre sharpened and balanced one from here on OSE?

[JimClark]

Nicholas where do you plan on running your boat?

[leonard feeback]

Nicholas, pay attention to Jim's post and go the RCU web site. They give you a very good starting point for what you need without wasting money in the wrong parts. Their site also has people you can probably get in contact that live close to you

[Make-a-Wake]

I was actually considering the 5692 so that I could get a better quality ESC, ive been told by a few people that If possible to opt for an Etti or Seaking ESC rather than the swordfish ones.

There isn't a Seaking that will power that motor that I am aware of, the swordfish is a very good ESC, that's what I used in my Hydro, a 240 12s.

Ryan made this thread several years ago, I referred to it a lot when I was new to boats, very informative

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/speed-electric-109/9069147-new-fe-building-boat-whats-lipo-look-here-first.html

[nichismo]

Nicholas where do you plan on running your boat?

Well I live in NE tacoma, which is basically Federal Way. Locally, ill probably be stopping by Steel lake and 5 mile lake which is just a very short drive from my home, but I plan to make the drive up to Renton and Seattle as much as possible, I just love Lake Washington and Coulon beach :) So many memories growing up when my dad moored his boat near Rainier beach. Every time we drove over to Coulon to get Ivars and Kidd Valley, I always loved looking at the Hawai Kai III and Miss Bardahl boats hanging inside. Then Id always hope to see some people potentially driving their boats inside the square pier.... Finally I can be in the other shoes!! Im extremely excited for Seafair this year too!

I look forward to meeting as many other hydro drivers as I can

Nicholas, pay attention to Jim's post and go the RCU web site. They give you a very good starting point for what you need without wasting money in the wrong parts. Their site also has people you can probably get in contact that live close to you

Will do, Jim seems extremely experienced and educated with hydroplanes, Ive spent alot of time checking out his photos and gallery on Smugmug, all beautiful Jim

So perhaps Ill aim for a 240amp minimum for the ESC? Perhaps Ill spend a little more then so I have more headroom for upgrading the motor later.

I have no idea how to solder and do the wiring either.... So I really wanted to purchase everything from here on OSE so I can just basically strap everything in and get going!

Im going to actually change the hardware I had listed in the OP, and im going to opt for the 1/8 scale hydroplane hardware package from Accu-tech, minus the zenoah motor mount it comes with. I really like the scale strut they offer.

Im so excited to get this hull guys!! I really want to get my parts before the hull gets here so I can get to it. Im still trying to decide what paint and team Im going to choose. I was thinking the U-21 Miss Seattle/Beacon plumbing driven by Villwock. The yellow and red is pretty simple to replicate and wont require to many decals either. But im still tempted to just go for another Miss bud.... haha

[leonard feeback]

The T-5 hull you have coming won't do the U-21 Beacon Plumbing without changing the deck over the sponsons.

[JimClark]

Leonard it might work for one of the older Beacon Plumbing but not the current hull

[nichismo]

ill probably just make a 2001 Miss Bud then.....

Do you guys know of anything articles that have a full walkthrough of a boat assembly? Like I am still unfamiliar wiith alot of the smaller processes and details, like drilling a hole for the stuffing tube and flex shaft (I have a thread bookmarked for this one however so im not too concerned with that), and cutting a slot out inside the boat, near the transom for the strut, and proper placement of components.

I noticed OSE has rail motor mounts for NEU 1521+ size and up motors that are basically for mounting on nitro engine rails, My hull will have I believe speedmaster .67 mounts built in. Heres a picture of Phils most recent T5:

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Id like to maybe use something like these but I cant find one for the 5692.

Also, which ESC would be a better choice in the long run?

http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...-HBF1300L-lite - Swordfish Pro+ 300 amp Lite version
http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...prod=etti-e065 - Etti HV 220A Opto PRO II Navy Competition

[Agitator]

If this is going to be Electric, I don't think you need nitro motor mounts.

[nichismo]

If this is going to be Electric, I don't think you need nitro motor mounts.

of course not, I wasn't intending on only using nitro motor mounts. its more so that Phil has his T5 hulls usually equipped with speed master mounts for .67 glow engines, just like the picture I posted above. I just would like to possibly integrate those to mount my electric motor somehow if I could, just to perhaps keep the internals a little but cleaner.

Phil does known that I'm going to be building an FE however, so maybe he'll actually skip that part.