2015 West Florida Model boat club, Sarasota, FL

[bill34207]

It's a new year and time for a new thread.

While I'm in here, there's a good possibility that I won't be at the lake this Sunday.
We have been dismantling as much of the office (work thing) as possible to get it ready for new carpet. I already know I'll be working late on Friday (along with everyone else in sales) to remove whatever is left. And' we'll likely be in there Saturday & Sunday putting things back in place to be ready to start back to work on Monday. :crying:

[RayR]

I'm in!

[ron1950]

iam out its 10 degrees here and I only posted to get mail when everyone else posts

[TRUCKPULL]

Bill
What is the weather at the pond for Sunday morning??

Larry

[RCKong]

Here we go !

[bill34207]

Bill
What is the weather at the pond for Sunday morning??

Larry

Early morning doesn't look too bad. That's as far as the report goes so far. http://www.usairnet.com/cgi-bin/launch/code.cgi?Submit=Go&sta=KSRQ&state=FL

[Vin-m]

:popcorn2:

[rdcracer]

iam out its 10 degrees here and I only posted to get mail when everyone else posts

Man up and put some skates on that boat. I am planning on being there Sunday.

[tiqueman]

As long as its not blowing I plan to be there. Im showing 7mph NNE in the am shifting to E. But its howling out here now. 18mph, NNE

Thanks for starting the new thread Bill.

EDIT Is anyone else having nothing but problems with this site lately????

[rdcracer]

Hey Ray I just tried to look at the Rumrunner build again and it still looks like this the same as it was before
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When I click on the photo I get that error message that I sent before. I am using Windows 7 and Google Chrome. Anyone have any ideas?

[bill34207]

As long as its not blowing I plan to be there. Im showing 7mph NNE in the am shifting to E. But its howling out here now. 18mph, NNE

Thanks for starting the new thread Bill.

EDIT Is anyone else having nothing but problems with this site lately????

No problem Scott. I figured you were busy.
I wound up having to update my profile a couple of weeks ago. (a new field that had been added and was empty) but has been fine since.
I'm pretty sure I won't make it tomorrow. Have to go back in to work in a few hours and have spent the morning trying to catch up on housework. Even if I don't have to work still won't have tme to get anything ready to run.

[hebner]

I'll be there boats four boats are prepped and batteries are charged.
2 - 1/8 Scales
1 - P-Mono
1 - Q - Sprintcat

[bill34207]

I for sure won't be making it tomorrow. Just have got home and have to go back in around 8:30 in the morning. :cursing: (if I can get out of bed)
At least most of the heavy work is done. Tomorrow should just be getting all the computers hooked back up and making sure they are operational.

[TRUCKPULL]

I will be there
A friend is coming also.

Larry

[rdcracer]

I still cant view anything on the TC build on Rumrunner.com. Anyone have any ideas on how to link it to me. All photos are still locked..

[RayR]

I still cant view anything on the TC build on Rumrunner.com. Anyone have any ideas on how to link it to me. All photos are still locked..

Rich,

You have a PM.

[ron1950]

how ya like the 8th scale?

[RayR]

ray hows the hand? ive one the same thing with a couple 4s you only do it once lol

My hand is just fine. And yes I mess up once in a while like all humans.

[rdcracer]

Still cant get my profile to work on Rumrunner. Is that site not used. Most posts look to be a couple of years old.

[RayR]

Still cant get my profile to work on Rumrunner. Is that site not used. Most posts look to be a couple of years old.

The site was the victim of multiple vicious hacker attacks a few years ago and was down for months at a time, so most folks just migrated away. It also didn't help that the webmaster grew up, got married, had kids and doesn't monitor the site anymore.

[rdcracer]

The site was the victim of multiple vicious hacker attacks a few years ago and was down for months at a time, so most folks just migrated away. It also didn't help that the webmaster grew up, got married, had kids and doesn't monitor the site anymore.

That explains alot. Too bad there is some good stuff there. Thanks for you login. It helps being able to see the build. The engine build is awesome.

[flraptor07]

Our next meeting Jan 25th I will be out of town, we need someone to volunteer to pick up the rescue boat and trailer for that weekend you can call me @ 941-737-0197 you either need a 2" ball or a reg. size reese receiver and the standard flat four light plug. We're going to Colorado to check out our possible new vacation house.

[ron1950]

Chris just buy a place on the water in central fla and all is settled lol besides co has high taxes and expensive marawana....lol

[flraptor07]

Chris just buy a place on the water in central fla and all is settled lol

Actually, this house we're looking at in Colorado has a lake down the road about 1/4 mile. :thumbup1:

[tiqueman]

Chris just buy a place on the water in central fla and all is settled lol besides co has high taxes and expensive marawana....lol

Dont be jealous :roflol:

[ron1950]

ya I cant afford 300 bucks a oz lol

[rdcracer]

I drove out to Graves Hobbies today and picked up most of the parts I needed for the shovelnose. The only thing they didnt have was the reverse flex drive and the right handed prop. What size props are you guys using on yours? And stupid me I got my kit today and was surprised to see no plans. I guess I totally missed that one. Cut plane kits come with plans and I guess I expected the boats to also. :confused2: Anyway I ordered them from Newton and I guess I have to reduce them 80% right. God I hate being a Newbe.
This is the one I am doing;
126817

[ron1950]

id start with a x447r or a cnc45 and 48mm might get a 45mm cnc just for playing

[flraptor07]

ya I cant afford 300 bucks a oz lol

Property taxes are fairly cheap, the place we're looking at was $423.00 last year 3 bed, 2 bath, 3/4 acre, detached 2 car plus work shop garage, and a view of Pikes Peak from every window in the front of the house.

[rdcracer]

id start with a x447r or a cnc45 and 48mm might get a 45mm cnc just for playing

What is a cnc45?

[ron1950]

its a cnc 45mm prop

[bill34207]

What is a cnc45?

http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/proddetail.php?prod=cnc-4514251-R

[rdcracer]

its a cnc 45mm prop

Ask a stupid question......

[rdcracer]

So the CNC prop is machined do you need to thin it at all or is it ready to go in all aspects. Do you mod it at all? That price is about the same as a raw octura prop.

[bill34207]

I don't really care for the CNC props myself. They are supposed to be "good to go" when you get them but my own personal experience has been that they don't perform as well as a S/B Octura.
I tried a set of CNC 45 mm C/R on my Cheetah once and they were slower than a set of Octura C/R 442's.

[RayR]

I don't really care for the CNC props myself. They are supposed to be "good to go" when you get them but my own personal experience has been that they don't perform as well as a S/B Octura.
I tried a set of CNC 45 mm C/R on my Cheetah once and they were slower than a set of Octura C/R 442's.

Agreed!

[rdcracer]

Ok scratch the cnc:w00t:

Ive always used Octura and had good results. Just a little more work.

[RayR]

Ok scratch the cnc:w00t:

Ive always used Octura and had good results. Just a little more work.

Rich,

The issue with Octura and LEFT turn racing is there are very few reverse rotation props to pick from in the Octura line-up.

[flraptor07]

What I use the CnC props for is to figure out what's gonna work on the boat, then I'll S&B a Octura or two when I get close with the CnC props.

[TRUCKPULL]

The CNC props are good- if you B&C them.
Also less rotating weight.
I do use them.

Larry

[rdcracer]

YIKES:hornets_nest:
Its been my experience with boats ya gotta ask around and try different props to see what works and end up with a whole box of worthless ones that you never use. Part of the game. On my gas mono I had about 6-7 props and used one. I guess that is why they call it a hobby...... or a hole in the water you throw money into just on a smaller scale.

[rdcracer]

Just got my driver figure and kit for the engine. It'l give me something to do while I wait for my plans.

[osprey21]

Scott,
I got your email last Sunday - did you get my reply?

[bill34207]

Our next meeting Jan 25th I will be out of town, we need someone to volunteer to pick up the rescue boat and trailer for that weekend you can call me @ 941-737-0197 you either need a 2" ball or a reg. size reese receiver and the standard flat four light plug. We're going to Colorado to check out our possible new vacation house.

I'm curious as to whether anyone has made arrangements for transporting the rescue boat for the coming weekend? My minivan has no hitch so I for sure can't do it.
If given adequate notice I can cancel the run listing for the 25th on the website though.
Oh, another thought. Unless Scott is going to be there you might want to grab the key for the gate too.

[flraptor07]

I'm curious as to whether anyone has made arrangements for transporting the rescue boat for the coming weekend? My minivan has no hitch so I for sure can't do it.
If given adequate notice I can cancel the run listing for the 25th on the website though.
Oh, another thought. Unless Scott is going to be there you might want to grab the key for the gate too.

No Bill, No one has stepped up to volunteer for it yet, I was gonna post it again so this will be the post. If any body wants to haul the rescue boat out this weekend get with me by Friday, I'm leaving early Saturday morning my flight leaves Tampa @ 6:00am so I'm leaving my house @ 3:00am. My Phone # is 737-0197 you need a 2" ball or a Reese receiver and a standard flat 4 light plug. Bill I guess give it till Thursday and if no one has stepped up then call it for the weekend.

[rdcracer]

Sorry no hitch on the VW
I got my plans today. Not what I expected. They look more like bad washed out blueprints. Not very visible. I dont know if this is the way they look but I wished I would have saved my money. I could build it just as good without it. Does anyone know if they improve when you get them reduced?

[RCKong]

I am wanting to run this weekend and can bring my boat if need be - still need to get in the gate...

[flraptor07]

Bill, Didn't Scott give you back a key a month or so ago?

[rdcracer]

I agree I want to run also. I want to beat up on Scott with my new BJ29 motor. I think he is SCAAARRRD:scared:

Saturday they are having a big Nitro race at Brandon. I am going to head over and check that out also.
First Annual Nitro Winter Shootout Jan 24th -25th

[flraptor07]

I'm pretty sure Scott's not going to be there either, Somebody can come get my key for the weekend.

[RayR]

I agree I want to run also. I want to beat up on Scott with my new BJ29 motor. I think he is SCAAARRRD:scared:

Saturday they are having a big Nitro race at Brandon. I am going to head over and check that out also.
First Annual Nitro Winter Shootout Jan 24th -25th

I am going to go up to Brandon on Saturday as well. Haven't seen Smock in ages. They will have some amazing scales in attendance.

[bill34207]

Bill, Didn't Scott give you back a key a month or so ago?

No, I got a key from Chris (osprey21) but it must have been the wrong one. It wouldn't fit the lock.

[RayR]

I will get the key from Chris and open the gate, but I can't stay.

[flraptor07]

No, I got a key from Chris (osprey21) but it must have been the wrong one. It wouldn't fit the lock.
Oh ok I thought you had gotten one, probably should get one made for you, for occaisions like this.

I will get the key from Chris and open the gate, but I can't stay.
Thank You Ray

[hebner]

I'm planning on being there.

[RCKong]

I'll plan on being there and I think Rich is going as well. I'll have
P Mono
LSH
LSO
Q

[flraptor07]

I'll plan on being there and I think Rich is going as well. I'll have
P Mono
LSH
LSO
Q

Brian, plan on bringing your boat, cause nobody has made plans to pick up the club boat as of yet.

[RCKong]

Yea I was.

[klbo]

what lake in fl are you racing on. i want to move to a warmer place is it bad to look around lakes that have my faverit hobby

[bill34207]

what lake in fl are you racing on. i want to move to a warmer place is it bad to look around lakes that have my faverit hobby

We run the small man made lake at Ackerman park in Sarasota. More details here: http://www.wfmbc.com/WFMBC/Contact.html

[rdcracer]

I am going to go up to Brandon on Saturday as well. Haven't seen Smock in ages. They will have some amazing scales in attendance.

What time are you going up there Ray

[Doug Smock]

I am going to go up to Brandon on Saturday as well. Haven't seen Smock in ages. They will have some amazing scales in attendance.

Sweet! It will be great to see you Ray! Looking forward to meeting some new folks as well.

My intention is to try to stay out of trouble with Rick's boats and have some fun!
Kind of looking forward to having Jerry Crowther, Tom Foley & co. hand me my butt in F Mono, I've never raced the class!:laugh: May or may not have a shot at Scale & Sport 40, but gonna have fun trying!:buttrock:

See you guys at the pond!!

Smock :smile:

[flraptor07]

I am going to go up to Brandon on Saturday as well. Haven't seen Smock in ages. They will have some amazing scales in attendance.

I wish I was gonna be here, I'd go on Saturday. But I'll be on the flight to Denver, then a rental car to Florissant. It was 11deg. there yesterday morning with almost 4ft of snow on the ground!!:laugh:

[bill34207]

I hope Brandon is better sheltered from the winds than Ackerman is. It may be more about surviving than racing otherwise. http://www.usairnet.com/cgi-bin/launch/code.cgi?Submit=Go&sta=KSRQ&state=FL

[TRUCKPULL]

I plan on being there, with a guest.

Bill - I hope it looks better for us on Sunday.

Larry

[Doug Smock]

I hope Brandon is better sheltered from the winds than Ackerman is. It may be more about surviving than racing otherwise. http://www.usairnet.com/cgi-bin/launch/code.cgi?Submit=Go&sta=KSRQ&state=FL
Hey Bill,

Man I hope that isn't the case. I've never been to this pond so I don't know what to expect.

Larry, looking forward to meeting you.

D.

[RayR]

Guys,

The folks running the Atlanta Spring Nats have now opened up a couple more classes for electric. P-Mono, P-Ltd Sport Hydro and the Open Offshore classes.

Thread here: http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/showthread.php?50216-IMPBA-2015-Spring-Nationals-April-18th-amp-19th-Atlanta-Ga&p=610670#post610670

[RayR]

I hope Brandon is better sheltered from the winds than Ackerman is. It may be more about surviving than racing otherwise. http://www.usairnet.com/cgi-bin/launch/code.cgi?Submit=Go&sta=KSRQ&state=FL

The Brandon pond is much better protected than Ackerman, but with 25mph winds, even that pond is going to be nasty.

[bill34207]

Bill - I hope it looks better for us on Sunday.

Larry

I just checked again and it shows dropping off to around 9 mph at 1:00 AM Sunday morning. That's as far as the chert goes right now.

[rdcracer]

Their pond is north- south and pretty much protected from wind on all sides. Ive raced there when it was blowing pretty good and it stays drivable.

[RayR]

What time are you going up there Ray

Rich,

I was planning to get there around 10:00.

[RCKong]

The weather doesn't look too bad for Sun. It'll be chilly with wind 5 to 10 mph until afternoon. http://www.wunderground.com/weather-forecast/zmw:34230.1.99999

[rdcracer]

Ok Ray I was planning on getting there about 8:00. I will probably be hanging out with Rod Hedricks and The Guys from the Tampa club. See ya there.

[bill34207]

The aviation site pretty much agrees Brian. Sunday is looking totally do-able. I'm hoping I'll have time to prep and charge packs for at least one boat (gotta make a trip to Lakeland on Saturday) but will be there to socialize regardless.
Let's see... where did I put my thermals.... :laugh:

[TRUCKPULL]

Sun. morning says 4 to 7 mph. from 7:00 AM to noon

Looks OK

Larry

[TRUCKPULL]

Sorry Doug
When I said I would be there, I meant at our pond on Sun.

Larry


Hey Bill,

Man I hope that isn't the case. I've never been to this pond so I don't know what to expect.

Larry, looking forward to meeting you.

D.

[bill34207]

Hey Bill,

Man I hope that isn't the case. I've never been to this pond so I don't know what to expect.


D.


If you get blown out on Saturday you can always run with us on Sunday. :thumbup1:

[bill34207]

Somebody remind me to tighten my collets before tossing in tomorrow. :laugh: Finished greasing the cables a little while ago, then remembered I'd already stowed my pit box in the van.

[tiqueman]

Bill tighten your collet.

Also your key should work. There has only ever been one lock and one set of keys. As long as you got it in the correct lock.. not the counties it should work.

[tiqueman]

I agree I want to run also. I want to beat up on Scott with my new BJ29 motor. I think he is SCAAARRRD:scared:


Nope just broke and no boat to run which is why Im not traveling the 90 minutes to get there. I subbed my LSO in the chop last run and popped the esc. Ive got no race boats in order at the moment. So Im staying home and probably gunna throw a gasser in.

Have fun

[RayR]

Nope just broke and no boat to run which is why Im not traveling the 90 minutes to get there. I subbed my LSO in the chop last run and popped the esc. Ive got no race boats in order at the moment. So Im staying home and probably gunna throw a gasser in.

Have fun

dial up Proboat and have them send ya one of the them new superwhamadyne 120 amp speedo's!

[Doug Smock]

I am going to go up to Brandon on Saturday as well. Haven't seen Smock in ages. They will have some amazing scales in attendance.

Ray, it was great seeing you and Ole Reed again. Rich, it was nice to meet you.

Well I left Atlanta a FE Racer and returned a "Nitro Champion".:thumbup1:

1st Scale Hydro
2nd Sport 40
3rd X Mono - Hit #3 in the last heat while running 2nd. behind Jerry Crowther.:doh:

The Tampa and Brandon clubs put on a great race.

Hope to see some of you guys in Atlanta in April!!


Doug

[RayR]

congrats Doug! That is a great accomplishment based on the talent present at that race!

[tiqueman]

Congrats on your victories Doug. :beerchug:

[TRUCKPULL]

Who is all in for this Sun. Feb. 8th.

This will be my last time out with all of you for this year, I am heading home on Feb.24th.

Larry

[RayR]

Who is all in for this Sun. Feb. 8th.

This will be my last time out with all of you for this year, I am heading home on Feb.24th.

Larry

feb 24th, you like the sub zero?

i will be there.

[tiqueman]

Im there

[hebner]

Can't make it this weekend, headed North for a week Burrr!!!

[bill34207]

Can't make it this weekend, headed North for a week Burrr!!!

Better you than me Hugh. I'd rather be heading further south
I'll probably show up around 10:00 or so. Going to take advantage of the early morning light east wind a couple miles south of the lake.

[bill34207]

For those that might be interested, The Green Bridge between Bradenton and Palmetto will be closed all day tomorrow. Saturday 2/7/15 Full scale Formula boat race
http://www.mysuncoast.com/news/local/bradenton-approves-new-boat-race-event-on-manatee-river/article_ef163458-f240-11e3-bb95-001a4bcf6878.html

[RCKong]

weather looks decent for Sunday, I'll be there.

[tiqueman]

Wish I coulda made the races Bill. Wifes Bday is today, although shes working but spending time with her tomorrow and gettn to Ackerman for Sunday. Just cant do it all....

Also got an interesting email and invite to go run on a lake but its on the east coast. ill fill you all in at the meeting Sunday.

[flraptor07]

I'm Back and there, Ray I need my Keys...

[bill34207]

The guys who were at the lake today already know but, I was a RC pilot long before becoming a RC boater and seems I've gone full circle back to flying being my passion. I'm finding it harder and harder to get myself to the lake when winds are favorable for flying. And, I recently bought a turbine airframe that I need to raise some funds for the engine on.

This mostly a heads up to club members that I'm going to be listing quite a few things for sale later on after shooting some photos. Most of the complete boats will be local pickup only so pretty much gives club members 1st shot there. I do have some smaller items though that I'm willing to ship so listing them here ahead of time. If you want something speak up.
Low use Castle Hydra Ice 240 (6 or maybe 8 runs in my Avenger cat before I converted it to twins) $150.00 cash to fellow members.
Neu 1530/1Y with 8mm shaft that I put about 4 runs on in the Avenger before deciding it's kv was just too low for 6s use. Should be a killer 8-10s motor though. $200.00 cash to fellow members.
That's enough for now. I have a couple of vids from today that I need to get processed so going to work on that for a while.

[RayR]

Bill,

That is not good news.

[bill34207]

I'll still be around Ray. Just not as active (committed) as in the past. I'll be keeping at least two of my boats.
If the breeze is from the north or south, I'll show up at the lake but days when it's coming east or west I'll be a couple miles further south.

[tiqueman]

Hey guys,
I got some good news today. Thank you to Chris Ds contacts within the county and his persistence with them, we have authorization to run at Bennet Park which is off the SR64 exit and the lake actually sits right next to the interstate. Basically you go down the road next to the Walmart and follow it back. Apparently there are new bodies in at parks n rec and they are excited to bring entertainment to Bennet Park. They are looking for ways to draw people in and Im sure we can do that and perhaps have a new and better place to call home.

A few things to discuss and figure out if we want to use it.
The county, just as Sarasota did, wants us to prove we have them listed as insured, however, I do not want to do that until we have all had a look at it and discuss the pros and cons.

A few cons:
1. Access to the lake. parking is a bit away so carting of some sort will be necessary as well as those who do not have them, investing in some sort of table to pit off of.
2. We will probably be standing a bit lower than we are now. there is a small dock located there but haven't been on it, but Im pretty certain it is not as high as our bank. Perhaps we could clear with the county that we can drive one vehicle with a trailer/ drivers stand down to the lake side on our run days. I haven't been there since the park was still under construction so cant recall exactly how far parking is but its not lake side for sure.

Pros:
1. There are BATHROOMS!!!!!
2. As mentioned above, the lake parallels I-75. We will be noticed instead of hidden.
3. It is a smaller lake than Ackerman, it runs North and South and is a bit more protected. Chances are we will have more of the better condition days than we have at Ackerman. Although I have seen it blown out on strong North winds.
4. Did I mention Bathrooms?

I propose as many of us as possible meet there either a run day morning or we go there on an off week Sunday to scope it out. And those that can and want to we can hit Ackerman afterwards for some running. I know if I drive that far I want to get a boat wet.

Let me know what you all think

And a big thanks to Chris for having an in. When I talked to the county about two years ago they wanted nothing to do with us. So Im glad theyre getting their head out of.... and new people are in there realizing we could in fact be good for them.

[flraptor07]

There is also a nice pavillion where we could have cook outs and we'll probably be able to host bigger events on a annual or semi annual basis. I propose we hold a meeting there in the near future so we can walk the grounds and plan out a way to get everybodies equipment to the lakeside. The distance from parking to the lake is the biggest con but I'm sure we can come up with a way to make it easy for all.

[tiqueman]

Im not familiar how far the pavlion is, but the club i went up to Ocala to run with takes over a large pavlion. They rope it off to keep others out and walk their boats about 40yards or so to the water.

[flraptor07]

Im not familiar how far the pavlion is, but the club i went up to Ocala to run with takes over a large pavlion. They rope it off to keep others out and walk their boats about 40yards or so to the water.

The Pavillion is where the restrooms are, it's not that far to the south end of the lake. But I don't think that would be the ideal end to setup the course. https://www.google.com/maps/place/Tom+Bennett+Park+%26+Playground+Pavilion/@27.5017229,-82.4835905,16z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x88c33c9a625ce5bd:0xb51d79d03a738 a1?hl=en

[ron1950]

so is this closer to tampa then akkerman?

[flraptor07]

so is this closer to tampa then akkerman?

Yes, by about 20 mins.

[rdcracer]

I look at this lake every time I come down and nobody is ever there. I think us running will draw some attention as it is totally visible from the interstate. Im game. Let me know when.

[flraptor07]

I look at this lake every time I come down and nobody is ever there. I think us running will draw some attention as it is totally visible from the interstate. Im game. Let me know when.

Cool Rich, it'll deffinetly be a little closer for you and most everybody else in the club. Except for the guys that come from way south but it's only about 15-20 mins more and it's easy to get to directly off the interstate by about the same as Ackerman.

[flraptor07]

The dock is about 3ft off the water and I'm sure I could come up with some sort of portable platform to put on the dock for run/race days they also have a fenced in lot that is all but empty that we could possibly store equipment in. But this is all stuff we would have to work out with Parks and Rec. when we get to that point. The possibilities are almost endless at Bennett park if we get the copperation I think we can get.

[RayR]

Guys,

Here is pic of Bennet Park with the course layout. I have been there several times, and I can tell you it is a very, very, very long trek from the parking lot to the dock.

[flraptor07]

Guys,

Here is pic of Bennet Park with the course layout. I have been there several times, and I can tell you it is a very, very, very long trek from the parking lot to the dock.

That's why we need to have a meeting there so everybody can see how the place is laid out. and like I said we would need to figure out a way to get everybodies equipment down to lakeside, via Golfcart with a wagon of some kind or something like that but I think it's doable. And granted lakeside access will not be as easy as Ackerman but the lake, grounds, and facilities are way nicer than Ackerman and IMO that more than makes up for it.

[ron1950]

is that white path/road usable? if it is but not parking then if allowed we could drive down it and unload then drive back to parking....maybe co will work something out

[flraptor07]

is that white path/road usable? if it is but not parking then if allowed we could drive down it and unload then drive back to parking....maybe co will work something out

Yes Ron, it's a nice shell path/road wide enough to drive down and there is a area at the dock on each side of the path to set up tables and canopies. That's just stuff we'll have to work out if we all decide to move there.

[rdcracer]

Cool Rich, it'll deffinetly be a little closer for you and most everybody else in the club. Except for the guys that come from way south but it's only about 15-20 mins more and it's easy to get to directly off the interstate by about the same as Ackerman.
I dont think it is really that much farther from them. I would say about 10 min

[rdcracer]

What is the grassy area that is central to the lake? Why do we need the course by the dock. By the photo if we set up the course centered it would be closer to the parking. How about this for a drivers stand 127951

[flraptor07]

The grassy area is Scoccer fields, the thinking was that the dock could double as the drivers stand.

[HRC]

Man...I am behind the ball here. When you guys go please let me know when. Lets have a look see.

[flraptor07]

Man...I am behind the ball here. When you guys go please let me know when. Lets have a look see.

For sure Dave, we're gonna plan a day real soon for everybody to meet at Bennett and check the place out.

[bill34207]

I still haven't gotten around to shooting any pix of stuff to sell yet (but have been making progress on my Rookie II build and the turbine is scheduled to arrive on Tuesday)
Here's something that might be of interest to someone looking for a STD class boat.
Aeromarine Mean Machine hull, & hardware with a pair of T120 ESC's and Hitec HS225MG sterring servo installed. Speemaster .187 stingers, .150 flex cables etc. $200.00 cash, local pickup.

[bill34207]

Ahem http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/showthread.php?50614-Priority-Change-House-Cleaning

[ron1950]

glad someone bought that twin cheata bill ... I might have pulled the trigger on that one lol

[bill34207]

Careful Ron. It's not gone yet. :roflol: I'm still waiting to see the paypal transfer.

[tiqueman]

IMPORTANT PLEASE READ

I spoke with Parks and Rec and want to get the ball rolling on possibly using Bennet park in Bradenton.

Lets all meet at 9:30 at Bennet Sunday morning. We will not be running there, only to have a look so we can discuss options and see what it has to offer. We will then proceed to Ackerman for our normal run.

the address is
400 Kay Road, Bradenton 34208

It is off exit 220 which is SR 64 in Bradenton. You will go west of I 75 and I believe Cypress Creek Blvd runs on the west side of walmart. you will turn North. Follow that back and it turns into Kay and the park will be on your left.

Bill, if you wouldn't mind, please make a note on the website

Gracias

[tiqueman]

Please respond to all that read the above to let me know whos planning and who is not planning to attend.

[RayR]

I will be at both.

[bill34207]

IMPORTANT PLEASE READ

Bill, if you wouldn't mind, please make a note on the website

Gracias

Done, but it probably won't show until tomorrow.

[flraptor07]

I'll be at Bennett about 8:30 or so for anybody that wants to show up early..

[tiqueman]

Dont stress yourself being early Chris. I set the time as is since a lot of folks dont show up until around then anyway. Lets keep it easy and give folks time to show. Plan to be there between 9 and 9:15. We will make it a goal to leave there by 10:15 to head to ackerman.

[flraptor07]

Dont stress yourself being early Chris. I set the time as is since a lot of folks dont show up until around then anyway. Lets keep it easy and give folks time to show. Plan to be there between 9 and 9:15. We will make it a goal to leave there by 10:15 to head to ackerman.

No problem, I was just gonna do some looking at different areas to get some more ideas and I figured I could cover more ground early by myself and write some stuff down to bring up.

[HRC]

Ill be at Bennett but prob. not to Ackerman.

[bill34207]

I'll more than likely swing by Ackerman after 10:00 but wanting to get a few early morning flights while the breeze is still coming from the east.

[rdcracer]

I am supposed to go to Gainesville to watch my son race his bicycle but havn't heard from him. If it falls through I'll be there.

[RCKong]

I'm not going to make it up there, having tire issues.

[ron1950]

so what happened today? at Bennett or akkerman

[tiqueman]

I'm going to try and meet with somebody from the County this week and if we can work out some details we are moving to Bennett

[ron1950]

will the move be nomater what happens or if the county gives a few bennies like a way to get to the water

[tiqueman]

will the move be nomater what happens or if the county gives a few bennies like a way to get to the water

If we can get access by some means of transport, that's are biggest concern. If we can get it we will have a meeting about it all and as for those present at the meeting yesterday it is a no brainer vote to go.

[TRUCKPULL]

Hello Guys

Get that new pond all setup, I will be back next Jan. or Feb.
Tonight we are in Macon GA. We may see SNOW tomorrow:doh:

Larry & Mary Lou

[rdcracer]

Hey Chris. Doctors Appt took longer than expected so I didnt make it down to check out the lake today. What happened to your phone number you posted.

[flraptor07]

Hey Chris. Doctors Appt took longer than expected so I didnt make it down to check out the lake today. What happened to your phone number you posted.

Don't know, the message you posted about coming down on Monday is gone too.. That's wierd... I'll pm it to you.

[sailr]

Hey guys. FANTASTIC full scale racing video!!!

https://vimeo.com/120709275

[sailr]

Where is Bennet lake?

[bill34207]

Bennett Park is just north of Hwy 64 on the west side of I-75

[sailr]

Got it. Found it on the yahoo map. Looks good! Manatee County Park? Any hope of them helping out?

[flraptor07]

Got it. Found it on the yahoo map. Looks good! Manatee County Park? Any hope of them helping out?

That's what we're shootin' for.

[rdcracer]

Anything new on the Bennett Park Lake?

[tiqueman]

Nope. And havent had time this week and wont the remaining to deal w the county. Wont b out Sunday either. Ill let you all know when I have news. Until then PLEASE STOP THE PHONE CALLS AND PMS AND EMAILS!!!!!!!!

[TRUCKPULL]

This is a question for all the guy's running twin Cat's.

I bought Bills twin Mean Machine

I want to run it in The Michigan Cup race Two different classes, I know that I will need a motor change and probably a prop change for the two classes.

Class (1) "P" Offshore 4 Min race 4S -2P - 5000 Max each (10,000 mA Total)
Class (2) "P" Cat 6 lap oval 4S-2P -5000 Max each (10,000 mA Total)

What are your suggestions for motors and props??????????????

Larry

[bill34207]

I'm hoping that 4s-2p 5000 Max is max per pack and not the total. :w00t:

I'd go somewhere in the 1900-2000 kv range Larry. 442's (maybe 445;s) will probably work well in the 6 lap race and maybe even the 4 minute as well. If you run 3674 size cans you'll ne able to reuse the cooling jackets that are there.

[TRUCKPULL]

Bill
4S-2P of 5000,s = 10,000mA total on board is all you are allowed.

For the 4 min. race you will need to have the AMP draw at 65 to70 AMP Max per motor.

Larry

[RCKong]

Larry you could run a pair of 3660's with some 442's and it will be fast with low enough amp draw to last 4 min and not puff the packs. Hugh had the twin he picked up from Ray running very nicely on a pair of TP motors.

[TRUCKPULL]

Brian

Who makes the 3660 motor

A "Y" whined is less Amp draw then a "D" whined

What about a Leo 3674 1700Kv 2Y whined
Props 438/3 or 440/3 Back cut and DE-tongued.

To get 4 Min. I need about 65 to 70Amp. MAX on each motor
Do you think this would give me 4 Min.?????

Larry

[flraptor07]

Larry, that 3660 1950kv is a TP. I sold ray the two motors that are in that cat of Hugh's

[TRUCKPULL]

Are we talking about the same hull?
I bought this boat from Bill.( Red Bull on the deck)
The motors that were in it are Tacon 3674 1700Kv -2Y

TP Power Brushless 3630
These motors are 36mm X (58mm on the OSC site)
1950 KV 4 pole 11D Whined (AMP HOG with lots of grunt)
This is why I would like to stay with the "Y" Whined (lower AMP draw)

1950KV may be a little high for a 4 MIN race with a full mill start.
I have to keep my AMP draw to about 65Amp MAX.

Larry

[RayR]

Larry,

The boat you have is the Aeromarine Mean Machine. With a full lap mill you likely will not make 4 minutes with 1950kv motors. The 1700kv motors would be a much better choice.

[HRC]

WOW..tomorrow is 2nd Sunday already. Anyone going to the pond?

[flraptor07]

Are we talking about the same hull?
I bought this boat from Bill.( Red Bull on the deck)
The motors that were in it are Tacon 3674 1700Kv -2Y

TP Power Brushless 3630
These motors are 36mm X (58mm on the OSC site)
1950 KV 4 pole 11D Whined (AMP HOG with lots of grunt)
This is why I would like to stay with the "Y" Whined (lower AMP draw)

1950KV may be a little high for a 4 MIN race with a full mill start.
I have to keep my AMP draw to about 65Amp MAX.

Larry

Not sure about the amp draw on those TP 3660 1950kv but you might get Hugh to check the ones he has set up in a cat hull. I'm not sure what hull it is, he bought it from Ray about a month or so ago and it runs awsome. They are trying to get this TP 3660 motor approved as a spec motor in NAMBA and IMPBA. Whoops I didn't see Rays post till after I posted.......:doh: Ray, What hull is the one you sold Hugh?

[flraptor07]

WOW..tomorrow is 2nd Sunday already. Anyone going to the pond?

I'll be there Dave, Who else is coming?

[RayR]

I will be there, not sure i,ll time to charge batteries though! Busy day today with non boat commitments.

[RayR]

Not sure about the amp draw on those TP 3660 1950kv but you might get Hugh to check the ones he has set up in a cat hull. I'm not sure what hull it is, he bought it from Ray about a month or so ago and it runs awsome. They are trying to get this TP 3660 motor approved as a spec motor in NAMBA and IMPBA. Whoops I didn't see Rays post till after I posted.......:doh: Ray, What hull is the one you sold Hugh?

The boat is the 32" tfl/rivercat

[flraptor07]

I will be there, not sure i,ll time to charge batteries though! Busy day today with non boat commitments.

Cool, I got the Ariane back together and put my Neu 1527 in the GP400.

[HRC]

Ill be there.

[bill34207]

I don't think I'll make it. Weather is calling for 9-12 almost due east and I'm hoping to make my 1st "real" turbine flight.
BTW, I took a day off work and went to Florida Jets yesterday to spectate and shoot some video. YouTube playlist is here.
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWp7KZlp7jBVLVLD6RJNli7RDc8cX6EPs

[ron1950]

You figure out how to start that beast bill? From what ive seen you should bring a big fire extingusher lol

[bill34207]

Glad you said that Ron. I need to put that in the van now so I don't forget it in the morning. (required for turbine startups at the field)

[flraptor07]

Bill, you got your turbine all ready to fly?

[RayR]

I don't think I'll make it. Weather is calling for 9-12 almost due east and I'm hoping to make my 1st "real" turbine flight.

What time is this flight expected to happen, I would definetely like to see that!

[flraptor07]

OK guys I just caught what Bill said, 9-12 mph winds out of the East. What do Ya'll think?

[RayR]

OK guys I just caught what Bill said, 9-12 mph winds out of the East. What do Ya'll think?
Chris,

i think what bill was Saying is taht is a good wind direction for the flightpath at the flying field. Eqst winds shouldn,t be a problem at the pond. Bill will likely make that flight before we get to the pond, so i,d like to see that.

[flraptor07]

Chris,

i think what bill was Saying is taht is a good wind direction for the flightpath at the flying field. Eqst winds shouldn,t be a problem at the pond. Bill will likely make that flight before we get to the pond, so i,d like to see that.

OK but so far it's lookin like just me you and Dave.

[bill34207]

Bill, you got your turbine all ready to fly?

The second one is ready to go. Haven't finished the 1st one yet after deciding the Boomerang nano would be better for training. I fly pretty well but there is a learning curve with the turbine.


What time is this flight expected to happen, I would definetely like to see that!

Probably won't happen til 10 ish Ray. I have to wait for somebody to buddy box me until I have the required experience to get signed off on for a turbine waiver.
I'm taking my Stinger to make sure I have something to fly regardless.
Come on down if you want. It's just one exit further south.

[TRUCKPULL]

Hello

Anybody run boats today??

Larry

[flraptor07]

Hello

Anybody run boats today??

Larry

Yes Dave ran his Titan 33 and there were white caps on the lake! There was only four of us there and he's the only one that ran and I didn't even put the rescue boat in the water.

[bill34207]

I think the wind was blowing a little harder than predicted. It was calling for 10-12 and it was more like 20. I didn't get to fly my turbine either since the official instructor didn't want to mess with it in that much wind.
So I settled for 3 flights on my Stinger 90.

[tiqueman]

I FINALLY heard from the county at 7PM this evening, but got no answers at all. they asked if I would write up a proposal to what we need/ want and they will present it to the board. if they all agree to proceed they will schedule a meeting with me/ us. So Ill get that done ASAP and let you all know when I have heard back.

[flraptor07]

AWSOME! That's a start!

[rdcracer]

Cool let me know if you need any help Scott

[TRUCKPULL]

Bill

I found the problem with that one Tacon motor:
Bad Bearing,
Easy fix.

Larry

[Pedro Ramos]

hi all, i live in polk ct and will like to go to spend time with you folks, I have a few boats if it is ok to take them down. Please let me know next time you guys meet if thats ok, thanks!

[flraptor07]

hi all, i live in polk ct and will like to go to spend time with you folks, I have a few boats if it is ok to take them down. Please let me know next time you guys meet if thats ok, thanks!

Sure Pedro, we meet this Sunday. Bring your boats.

[bill34207]

Unless I start feeling a lot better I probably won't make it Sunday. I left work yesterday around lunchtime after putting in for today and tomorrow off.
I've got some kind of nasty bug (or bad allergy from all the pollen) and am trying to recuperate.

[R.J.S]

Rich,hows the thunderboat build going?
FYI,got an email from TC a couple of weeks ago...he is sort of thinking about selling his boats including Miss Bud.
If you are interested PM me and I can hook you up with him.

[flraptor07]

Who all's coming this weekend? I'm in!!

[RayR]

I'm planning on attending.

[rdcracer]

Rich,hows the thunderboat build going?
FYI,got an email from TC a couple of weeks ago...he is sort of thinking about selling his boats including Miss Bud.
If you are interested PM me and I can hook you up with him.

Seeing as I have more than a year to finish it now I'm taking my time. Seriously I 've got house painting going on so time is limited on it. I might be interested in what he might have for sale.

I will be there this sunday. Chris dont forget to bring the Hydro.

[flraptor07]

Seeing as I have more than a year to finish it now I'm taking my time. Seriously I 've got house painting going on so time is limited on it. I might be interested in what he might have for sale.

I will be there this sunday. Chris dont forget to bring the Hydro.

You got it Rich!

[ron1950]

my new toy

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[RayR]

Very nice.

[RCKong]

Nice boat Ron. Looking forward to seeing it run... Are you looking at a 2028 motor or do you have something else in mind ?

[RayR]

Nice boat Ron. Looking forward to seeing it run... Are you looking at a 2028 motor or do you have something else in mind ?
Brian,

It's a 1/10th scale.

[RCKong]

a 2028 would be a little much then... LOL

The weather looks good for running tomorrow, little or no wind.

[GregM]

Hey Everyone,
Just joined the forum. I'm up in Palmetto and recently started a build on a 1/10 1968 Miss Bardahl. I would like to stop by during your run tomorrow to watch and pick up some tips. What time will you be out at the park?

[flraptor07]

Hey Everyone,
Just joined the forum. I'm up in Palmetto and recently started a build on a 1/10 1968 Miss Bardahl. I would like to stop by during your run tomorrow to watch and pick up some tips. What time will you be out at the park?

Greg I'll be there about 8:00 or so.

[ron1950]

Greg how far along are u on the bardoll? Hugh ebner and i noth have vintage 10 th scales and modern hulls also hope rich gets his built. As that will make 4 vintage boats in the club ron

[flraptor07]

Ron are you here now?

[GregM]

Still in the framing stages. Belly is sheeted but not yet the sponsons. Only started about a week ago. Are all built to NAMBA spec? I found some other clubs online that seem to have their own rules.
Greg how far along are u on the bardoll? Hugh ebner and i noth have vintage 10 th scales and modern hulls also hope rich gets his built. As that will make 4 vintage boats in the club ron

[ron1950]

Chris. No am in college station tx for awhile now. Why? U want to buy a 10th scale? Lol its the way to go!

Greg hugh and i both have namba legal boats. We use probost or dynamite 1500 kv motors. Kinda a unwritten rule

[flraptor07]

Still in the framing stages. Belly is sheeted but not yet the sponsons. Only started about a week ago. Are all built to NAMBA spec? I found some other clubs online that seem to have their own rules.

Greg, there is a new NAMBA Scale Chairman, his name is Mike McKnight. Anything you want to know about NAMBA legal scale boats, he's the guy! http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/showthread.php?50936-New-NAMBA-Scale-Chairman

[ron1950]

well anything happen today? I sure miss bills video's

[flraptor07]

well anything happen today? I sure miss bills video's

Nothin' exciting, I ran my GP400 and my Ariane, Ray ran his GP335, Rich had his DF and LSO cat, and there were a couple other guys with some boats. Also a couple new guys checkin' things out.

[bill34207]

well anything happen today? I sure miss bills video's

Sorry Ron. Everybody is missing them this Sunday. I've only left the house once today to go to the store and still feel like crap.

I'm guessing it was pretty foggy at Ackerman this morning as the weather was calling fro like 0 visibility around 8:00?

[ron1950]

I understand being sick bill. Get better soon cause id settle for vids of your jet flights

[flraptor07]

Yeah it was foggy first thing but it burned off real fast and was gone by about 8:45 9:00. I went out and put out two pins that were missing and clipped off one I replaced and another one LOL I gotta take some more noodles next time!:doh::lol:

[flraptor07]

Scott and I had a very good meeting with Maggie from the county this morning, Scott will fill everybody in later today.

[ron1950]

Sounds good

[tiqueman]

Hey guys sorry Ive been so quiet lately. A lot going on here.

Yeah Chris and I had a good meeting with the county on site at bennet today. She is really pulling for us and already has Tallahassee approving us. I will get what she is asking from us to her by Monday and then she has to push it through the system, but without getting too excited yet, looks like we got Bennet!!!!!

[rdcracer]

Sounds great. Cant wait to check it out

[RayR]

Just heard on the news they are planning to build a large water park at Bennett as well.

[flraptor07]

Just heard on the news they are planning to build a large water park at Bennett as well.

Yes but Maggie told us that the Water Park would not effect us in the future at all. It's going to be built off to the left as you come in the gate.

[tiqueman]

Letter is off to the county. Ill let you know when and what I hear as soon as I hear it. :Praying:

[tiqueman]

Yes but Maggie told us that the Water Park would not effect us in the future at all. It's going to be built off to the left as you come in the gate.


And the current entrance will not be the entrance anymore. that's about all she told us.

[flraptor07]

And the current entrance will not be the entrance anymore. that's about all she told us.

That too...:biggrin:

[HRC]

Sounds good guys. I need to find time to get some boats finished.

[rdcracer]

Hey Chris
I just got my SKYFLY radio. It is awesome. I was waiting to set up the hydro until I got it. This thing does everything. The only problem is It has a touch screen like my cell phone. And I dont know how to use my cell phone:doh:

[flraptor07]

Hey Chris
I just got my SKYFLY radio. It is awesome. I was waiting to set up the hydro until I got it. This thing does everything. The only problem is It has a touch screen like my cell phone. And I dont know how to use my cell phone:doh:

All else fails, read the instructions....:biggrin:

[ron1950]

Hey rich hows the vintage coming? My executone is still available lol

[rdcracer]

All else fails, read the instructions....:biggrin:

The instructions are in chinese. It is easy to figure out. One of the easiest programing radios I have had.

[flraptor07]

The instructions are in chinese. It is easy to figure out. One of the easiest programing radios I have had.

Rich, you gonna be down Sunday?

[rdcracer]

Rich, you gonna be down Sunday?

I am hoping to be there. One of our close friends passed away sunday and may be tied up this weekend.

[tiqueman]

Sorry to hear that Rich.

To all club members who are attending Sunday. Please be on time for an important 10 o'clock divers meeting. There are some things that we need to figure out and discuss asap. Voting for these things will be Sunday, if you are not there, your vote will not count.

Also Chris D, remind me to bring a shovel to see if we can do anything w those steps.

[flraptor07]

Sorry to hear that Rich.

To all club members who are attending Sunday. Please be on time for an important 10 o'clock divers meeting. There are some things that we need to figure out and discuss asap. Voting for these things will be Sunday, if you are not there, your vote will not count.

Also Chris D, remind me to bring a shovel to see if we can do anything w those steps.

Scott you should have told them that the meeting, voting and discussion are about good things :thumbup: ....So everybody that can make it please come, it's very important to get everybodies input on these things!! I'll bring a shovel too..

[tiqueman]

I was building suspense :lol:

[flraptor07]

I was building suspense :lol:

I think we still got the suspense factor there but now everybody will want to be there to find out what's going on...:laugh: and that's all we're going to say about that!!!:tt2:

[rdcracer]

You both suck:zip-up:

[rdcracer]

I guess I will have to make it there now. The suspense is killing me

[flraptor07]

:lol::tt2:

[RCKong]

I'll be up there Sunday.

[tiqueman]

Several 2014 members have yet to pay there dues for 15. Those who do not pay in full tomorrow will be charged the guest run fee of $10.00. Theres no reason why dues should not be in by now.

[tiqueman]

And welcome our newest member Paul, Impulse31 on OSE. He hasn't even attended and has paid his dues.

[flraptor07]

Head Count! Who's coming tomorrow? I know I'll be there!!:thumbup: So far Me, Scott, Rich C., Brian, Ray R, Bill, Dave, Greg M.?,

[RayR]

Head Count! Who's coming tomorrow? I know I'll be there!!:thumbup: So far Me, Scott, Rich C., Brian,

Count me in.

[tiqueman]

I even prepped more than one boat!!!!!

[bill34207]

I'll be there a little after 9:00 and hang out for a while.

[HRC]

Ill be there

[HRC]

And welcome our newest member Paul, Impulse31 on OSE. He hasn't even attended and has paid his dues.

Welcome Paul

[tiqueman]

Ill be there

Sweet.. i have a project im bringing along for you. :spy:

[GregM]

Prospective member, mind if I attend. Guess the meeting is about Bennet. Ill bring along my Bardahl project if anyone interested.

[RayR]

Prospective member, mind if I attend. Guess the meeting is about Bennet. Ill bring along my Bardahl project if anyone interested.

You are more than welcome to attend. Would very much like to see the project.

[ron1950]

wish I was down there id actually pay my dues lol...btw anyone interested in bills old 8th scale miller or my executone 10th scale they are both on the block.... I have more boats then room for them also the American spirit

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[HRC]

Sweet.. i have a project im bringing along for you. :spy:
:hide: :spy:

[ron1950]

So whats the big secreat

[ron1950]

And did bill take any bids?

[flraptor07]

Cat's out of the bag now, The Club got Bennett Park!! We will be moving as soon as we get all the formalities done, They are letting us do everything we wanted to do, Drive down the path to the dock and park, Leave the markers in the lake permenently, Use the rescue boat in the lake, Clear a launch area, ETC. This is gonna be so much nicer than Ackerman, Easier to use, Restrooms, Clean, Picnic Pavilion, I could keep on going but ya'll get the idea can't wait till we move!!!

[ron1950]

nice ..any idear when the switch will be? btw someone put that cat back in the bag!

[flraptor07]

nice ..any idear when the switch will be? btw someone put that cat back in the bag!

We're waiting on the county to get us the contract and as soon as that's all done we can start running there. We gotta pull all the pins and the steps from Ackerman, then set up the course at Bennett and clear the launch area

[bill34207]

And did bill take any bids?

No bids taken today Ron. I wasn't auctioning anything off. LOL

[tiqueman]

Thanks Chris. What he said. County could take a week or 2 months. We have no idea nor do they but we do have someone on our side and she is trying to expedite things as much as possible. Hopefully by the end of May.

[RayR]

Scott,


we could use some rain over this way, would you share a little please.

[tiqueman]

Scott,


we could use some rain over this way, would you share a little please.

Youd think so. All the rain this way the last few days and we haven't gotten 1/4" out of it. Literally raining like mad less than a mile away but not here. keeps goin around us.

[GregM]

Scott,

I may be mistaken but at the pond yesterday I thought I overheard you say something about going over to IMPBA next year. Not looking to start any rumors but is this under discussion?

[tiqueman]

Scott,

I may be mistaken but at the pond yesterday I thought I overheard you say something about going over to IMPBA next year. Not looking to start any rumors but is this under discussion?

We had some mentioning of it back in January but haven't discussed it since.

[GregM]

We had some mentioning of it back in January but haven't discussed it since.

Thanks. Just curious because their rulebook doesn't cover the classes I'm interested in - 1/10th scale hydro and limiteds.

[flraptor07]

Thanks. Just curious because their rulebook doesn't cover the classes I'm interested in - 1/10th scale hydro and limiteds.

Greg, That KBB 34 Mono we were talking about yesterday, the guy broke 90mph with it yesterday.

[ron1950]

greg hows your bardoll comeing? any pics?