TFL Outrage

[T.S.Davis]

She's a bigg'n.

All I need is some double sided sticky tape and it's good to go.......not so much.
Look how much room is in there! That's 10s2p and a 2217 laying in there. They look tiny. Not sure about that cell placement. Kind of a wiring mess that way.

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[Darin Jordan]

Terry, is that the supplied TFL hardware??

[T.S.Davis]

Yes sir. That looks small on there too. It's 1/4" strut though.

For some reason they like to use a solid stub with a square drive. I went to a Hughey flex with a step shaft.

I think this might be the biggest boat I've put together. I didn't really realize how big it was until I started drilling holes last night. I did an AM Team Believer years ago but this is even bigger. Needs a little structure.

[longballlumber]

Do you sleep?

[T.S.Davis]

Do you sleep?

Not much. I can sleep when I'm dead.........hopefully that will be AFTER the nats.

I'm going to test Saturday. haha Not!

[kfxguy]

That thing is huge! Plenty of working room that's for sure

[rickwess]

Not much. I can sleep when I'm dead.........
Plenty of room to be buried in that hull :w00t:

[Darin Jordan]

I don't know WHY you are doing a single... that thing is SCREAMING for a pair of 1530's or 2228's or something cool like that....

[kfxguy]

Some people prefer the simplicity of a single.

[kfxguy]

What does it look like with the hatch on?

[Darin Jordan]

Some people prefer the simplicity of a single.

All that heavy rotating mass up that high in the hull doesn't help handling...

But, I do agree that it's much simpler and more practical in most cases to do a single, especially for those who don't understand or do their own props. Somethings hard to find what you really want in a RH turn...

[kfxguy]

All that heavy rotating mass up that high in the hull doesn't help handling...

But, I do agree that it's much simpler and more practical in most cases to do a single, especially for those who don't understand or do their own props. Somethings hard to find what you really want in a RH turn...

You have a point about rotating mass. I know how to do my own props but I don't enjoy doing them. Very boring, messy and time consuming

[Darin Jordan]

I know how to do my own props but I don't enjoy doing them. Very boring, messy and time consuming

AMEN to that, my friend!

[T.S.Davis]

This boat is so big it wont give 2 craps about rotating mass up high. I'm going single because I already had the motor. It handles okay it will get run in offshore.

I'll get a shot of it with the hatch tonight.

I should put a lawn chair in there. Is there a rule that says I have to drive from shore?

[Doby]

http://www.tflhobby.com/product/gas_racing_boats/007/outrage.html

http://www.tflhobby.com/product/gas_racing_boats/007/Watch%20the%20TV%20ads.html

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[T.S.Davis]

I was going to say ...slow and steady but ain't nobody got time for dat.

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[Rocstar]

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[T.S.Davis]

Hey Joel, what percentages are you guys running your CG on the bigger cats? I start about 33% on a typical cat. Does it usually hold true even as the cats get big.........er?

[Rocstar]

Hey Joel, what percentages are you guys running your CG on the bigger cats? I start about 33% on a typical cat. Does it usually hold true even as the cats get big.........er?
Yeah, give or take. For the speeds you'll be running, maybe closer to 30% or less.... My 90+mph Fantasm is over 40% :wink:

[T.S.Davis]

That makes sense. I think with the batteries right to the trans I'm at 30% with the motor in it's current location. I would think I'll need to pack some air. I'll shoot for mid to high 60's and see how it measures up against the other heat racers. Not looking to set the water on fire with this just yet. I'll be lucky to get it tested before the nats. It's not a SAW friendly design IMO. Should be great in rough water. Lots of freeboard.

I think I'll add some trays for the batteries. Adds a little structure and gives me an anchor point for some straps. If I have CG issues I'll move one set of batteries to the tub. Then I could go to 20%

It's sure cool to look at. My wife hates the graphics. Figures I guess.

[Darin Jordan]

My wife hates the graphics.

I hate them too... they should be in color, and it should be a REDHEAD! :w00t:

[T.S.Davis]

It's not like I was there when somebody posed for it. Sheesh.

For any interested. That little servo............487oz of torque at 7.4 volts. That should turn it.

[Doby]

I thought Terry posed for it!

[Darin Jordan]

It's not like I was there when somebody posed for it. Sheesh.

As the US face of TFL, I think it's up to Terry to make sure the graphics meet the appropriate USA standards for big cats... Start with a clean understanding of the hotness scale (1 to REDHEAD!) and get on it! :bounce:

[T.S.Davis]

I thought Terry posed for it!

It's not shaped like a potato.

Bring your heels John. We'll see if we can duplicate it at the NATS boat camping jamboree.

[T.S.Davis]

Well......it's completely done now. Add water and pull trigger. First run Saturday.

[T.S.Davis]

Well......this thing is an absolute beast. Really really impressive going straight. Not sure I'll ever get it to turn though. Supplied rudder is horribly inadequate. Going to move some stuff around and put a bigger rudder on it.

[Rocstar]

What, no video Terry? It's like it didn't happen. :hornets_nest:

Did she air out well?

[bozo586]

anybody know if tom got his missing batteries?

[T.S.Davis]

There is some video that Todd took but the thing was so squirllllleyyyy I hate to post it. At one point I spun so hard the it was traveling backward on plane with the tips down and the tail about 3 feet above the water. Nearly blew it off the water going backward. Don't know if he caught that stunt. It was one of those "awe! dew it ag'n" moments.

[asars85]

Did you buy the outrage as a bare hull only? how much was it?

[T.S.Davis]

I'm not sure what the street value is on these.

Mine came un-assembled with strut, rudder, and a 1/4" square drive. I don't care for square drive setups. Their okay on sport boats but when you're racing and want to service the drive on the fly it's a bit clunky. I'm pretty sure the gas guys do it with no issue though. May be just a personal thing.

I have to be honest with you guys. I really like this boat. It's beautiful on the water. I was pretty shocked at the speed. However, for me, it may be destined to be a sport boat. It's made to go relatively straight. A bit bulky for SAW's I think. It's not a good heat racer in it's current form. Which is my primary focus. I haven't figured out yet the mods to make it happy in the turns. I will. Just haven't messed with it yet and I'm buried in a nats at the moment.

If you want to look really cool and go pretty fast in a straight line...........dump 10s in one of these. If you want to do laps consider something else........at the moment.

TFL was hesitant to send me one knowing my intentions.

[ron1950]

terry does that skeg on the bottom of the strut make it fight the turns or was I seeing things that aren't there?

[T.S.Davis]

One of the things I tried was trimming the skeg down a bit. I was thinking let it slide more.

There are a couple of problems trying to turn. At this point just theory but how it feels in your hands at speed.

The ride pads are super narrow. So it tends to settle into the water if you slow down. Then the dihedral angle of the hull that isn't the ride pad is quite steep. Picture pad then steep angle up to the chine.

So if you stay in the throttle through the turn to stay on top of the water it will slide slide slide trip then roll.

If you slow a tick like you would with an OPC it will turn on about a 5ft radius and swap ends on you. At one point I was traveling backwards at 60 with the rear end 3' off the water.

With the steep dihedral I would think it would be a strong rough water boat. Then chill out to get through the turn.