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Tbauer
09-19-2013, 04:34 PM
For those of you who are not aware, this ESC will handle up to 8s. I have not tried any higher so I won't say that it can, I can only speak of what I know. So point is, if you don't want to spend the extra money, you can get 2 of these for close to the same as one swordfish. Granted I wouldn't run it as hard as a swordfish, longevity will surely be an issue, however if you are like me and only do a couple passes on 8s full throttle, then the rest just farting around, this is a solid contender for the budget minded...... just something to consider

Rocstar
09-19-2013, 05:43 PM
Or for $10 more..... http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/proddetail.php?prod=hef-HB80200L
And run within specs...

Tbauer
09-19-2013, 06:02 PM
Thats 130.00........ I can get 2 Turnigy's for 160........thats the point....... in a twin set up that's a 100.00 savings

twissted
09-19-2013, 11:59 PM
I run a pair of them in my Zonda I did upgrade the caps that came on a piece of wire. I more http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu2/Jack59/Zonda/d81473fc-5a2d-497b-bd8c-d5e7679911c0_zpsa9354a9c.jpg (http://s628.photobucket.com/user/Jack59/media/Zonda/d81473fc-5a2d-497b-bd8c-d5e7679911c0_zpsa9354a9c.jpg.html)than doubled there capacity.
http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu2/Jack59/Zonda/Zondaboat015.jpg (http://s628.photobucket.com/user/Jack59/media/Zonda/Zondaboat015.jpg.html)
and this is what they look like in my boat.
and this is a video of them on 6s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Q3oolETu90
and these are what I would like to run on 8s
http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu2/Jack59/Zonda/tppower40741200kv001_zps64955aef.jpg (http://s628.photobucket.com/user/Jack59/media/Zonda/tppower40741200kv001_zps64955aef.jpg.html)

Tbauer
09-20-2013, 12:07 AM
You know whats interesting with that set up, for what reason I don't know, may just be pure coincidence, but this has been consistent: Lips x 10 = mph

6s I could hit 60
7s I hit 70
8s I hit 80

I won't try over 8s with these, I am sure 8 is too much, but it works so what can I say........ I bought those swordfish 200 8s escs, I have already sent them back 2x

twissted
09-20-2013, 12:08 AM
That is a great deal on 200 amp esc's.

Tbauer
09-20-2013, 12:27 AM
You know whats interesting with that set up, for what reason I don't know, may just be pure coincidence, but this has been consistent: Lips x 10 = mph

6s I could hit 60
7s I hit 70
8s I hit 80

I won't try over 8s with these, I am sure 8 is too much, but it works so what can I say........ I bought those swordfish 200 8s escs, I have already sent them back 2x

sboti74
09-20-2013, 12:49 AM
@ Twissted - Nice 80s *!***!***!***!** music on the video. :)

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Cooper
09-20-2013, 04:29 PM
Am I missing something?? Did you say that the t180 esc will be fine on 8s lipos?

Tbauer
09-20-2013, 04:47 PM
Yes sir, but don't say it too loud, i don't want them "Turnigjy" catching on and fixing the glitch

Steven Vaccaro
09-20-2013, 04:51 PM
Travis i know you mean well, but this will cause issues down the road.

twissted
09-20-2013, 05:14 PM
I tied it and the esc goes into protective shut down. I just installed some cheep 200 amp esc to run my 4074 1200 kv motors in the zonda. Should be fun to see 35.00 esc's in action. I will keep a close eye on them. no need to damage the boat.

Tbauer
09-20-2013, 05:26 PM
Turn off LV cut off. You should have asked if u couldnt get it

Tbauer
09-20-2013, 05:28 PM
I just said it did, your saying it don't, maybe your calling me a liar?

Tbauer
09-20-2013, 05:29 PM
Sorry, I do that alot

Tbauer
09-20-2013, 05:57 PM
Travis i know you mean well, but this will cause issues down the road.

Just trying to be informative. I am sure I am not the only one on a budget that still want's to keep up with the Jones', or at least I hope I am not the only one on one. As with anything, this info is for those that are responsible and capable of self control. I have been running it like that for quite some time without trouble, as do my friends now that I showed them how.

twissted
09-20-2013, 05:59 PM
Hey it's the only thing in the video doing 80! something needs to be doing 80. Lol!
@ Twissted - Nice 80s *!***!***!***!** music on the video. :)

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Cooper
09-20-2013, 06:02 PM
Uhh sorry boys, as Steve has suggested this will cause problems. Reason is that the 180 is max 6s, I know people have successfully ran 26 volts but they are experienced in what their setup is. If you are telling the masses a t 180 will be fine on 33.6 volts then you are going to mislead people and cause problems- I.e. fire, injury. I suggest that you run your setup on 8s and reply with your findings.

Rumdog
09-20-2013, 06:06 PM
You're "budget" is gonna go right out the window when you smoke both esc's and have to replace them. Not a smart move. Just remember, when they let go, so can your packs, and motors, and rx.

Tbauer
09-20-2013, 06:34 PM
dude, I got rid of the deans long ago!!!! LMAO

Hey, I hear ya, but I am telling ya, it is what it is........ Maybe they are built like Fosgate amps of old, I don't have the answer, but they work and have continued to work. Don't get caught up thinking its SAW all day long.......... Remember, I said RESPONSIBLE BOATER WITH SELF CONTROL.......IF you can't maintain the urge, then absolutely don't do this at home

Tbauer
09-20-2013, 06:39 PM
Going on several months. I'll check my receipts from KBB to confirm, but its been MONTHS..... I had these BEFORE I bought Swordfish 200a. If you can explain to me why these still work and my 200's have been sent back 2x, have at it. I had 1480'w or something similar before the 1600kv. KBB diagnosed the initial 200a failure to a bad motor. I have ran these ever sense. Maybe I am just a lucky guy. But I won't try anything higher, I maybe nuts, but I am no fool

Tbauer
09-20-2013, 11:41 PM
Just as I had mentioned, I have been using this set up for the majority of 3-4months and still going strong. I included the email between KBB and I which helped me narrow down the time frame since it seems some are just not coming to grips with the fact that for what reason I can't explain, these things are pretty impressive ESC's for 80.00


Travis B.

May 20

to keith
Sounds good, no worries, I didn't want to bug........ I was thinking of taking you up on the suggestion of running a twin setup in my fantasm....... I have 2 leopard 4092 1480kv and 2 turnigy 180a escs, what prop would you suggest? I have run that prop forever without problems. I have the Turnigy 65-130c 5000mah...........

The motor issue I can check... The reliability is key!!!


Thanks

Tbauer
11-11-2013, 01:51 AM
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Going on another month and half utilizing the t-180's, hitting 85mph, on 8s, they are still running strong. Despite the detractors, these are by far the best ESC's on the marker for the money and CAN handle 8s power. I have burned up 3 Swordfish 200 8s esc's on the same setup that the t-180 which is half it's size takes my CF Fantasm to 80 plus MPH.

Tbauer
11-11-2013, 02:00 AM
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Steven Vaccaro
11-11-2013, 08:24 AM
there are reasons companies don't rate esc's at their full capacity. Most of which is a safety buffer for user setup errors. 8s is just not recommended. Now that doesn't mean im telling you personally not to do it, we do live in a free country. But running around and telling people to run 8s can literally be harmful to ones health. I've been there when opening a tightly sealed boat that engulfed the entire compartment when it got a good doses of oxygen. It wasn't pretty.

Id love to see data on your setup. Your average amp draw over and esc heat. Ive successfully been running t180's at 6s and 150amps, things get hot. At 8s and 150 amps that's approx 1000 more watts. I couldn't imagine what the temps would be.

Steven Vaccaro
11-11-2013, 08:29 AM
Also did you contact the vendor you got the swordfish from? So far I've only had one return on a 8s esc. You having three would put up some serious red flags. Maybe it was a bad batch.

shartinspartin
11-11-2013, 04:35 PM
I just got the t180 with program card. Is normal to not be able to adjust the timing with the card? Also it will only allow me to make the lvd at 3.4 max????????

Tbauer
11-11-2013, 04:51 PM
There are a couple others who share your concerns. It was further requested of me to report back after sometime to say how it was going. I did that and am happy to say that the T-180's simply rock. I don't know what else to say. I have said to be responsible etc etc, but if you want to run 8's, it can take it. That should not mean to be taken as drive it with reckless disregard. It is just that, your own risk. But I have done it for months and where the swordfish esc's have failed, the T-180's are still strong.

KBB can confirm that I have bought several Swordfish ESC's 200/8 from him. I did initially think it was a bad batch, but then I bought one that was used, from him, months later. Again after 2 passes FAILED. Turnigy's go back in, no prob. Maybe it's my setup that for whatever reason just works for Turnigy but don't for Swordfish.

I have 41" Fantasm, (2)Leopard 1600kv, 3/16 flex drives, 5018 CNC 3 blade props. I run my props counter rotating (inward) My COG is around 33-34%. My temps are that I always pass the 5sec rule. Timing is set at 15, LVC is turned OFF. I have a Hobby Wing program box that I program it with and it has only 4 options.

Is there something that I missed? I am more than happy to break it all down, but what I don't do is get into a debate about it working because I know it does, I am still utilizing it, so to argue is pointless........

Tbauer
11-11-2013, 04:54 PM
No, that's not my experience...... I have a Hobbywing program box tho

shartinspartin
11-11-2013, 05:03 PM
It also isnt letting me select the cell count...
Do you think its defective?

Tbauer
11-11-2013, 05:12 PM
Absolutely, those things your trying are very basic but totally necessary and I can't think of why it would not allow you to select an option..... Maybe their card is restricted for some reason, but ya, i'd use a different one that's for sure.

shartinspartin
11-11-2013, 05:22 PM
The cards sticker HAS all the values. But when I click the button it will only do a portion of the settings.
Im going to contact hk to see if its defective or restricted.

Tbauer
11-11-2013, 05:34 PM
ya, definitely not normal.......... if they restrict their card options, i'd look into getting a different one

ron1950
11-12-2013, 12:39 PM
how many cells are u hooking up to set the options? ive never had a problem with the box setting it up with 4s

shartinspartin
11-12-2013, 04:13 PM
4s 2 2s

ron1950
11-13-2013, 12:47 PM
well knock on wood ...I have never had a problem with my t180's or setting them up with a box....hope hk can help u out

shartinspartin
11-13-2013, 04:50 PM
hobbyking has been nothing but useless. GO FIGURE

shartinspartin
11-13-2013, 05:04 PM
Im going to try to program it without the box. Is it hard? Also how do you do it? My esc came without instructions. Shocker lol

shartinspartin
11-13-2013, 05:24 PM
So I figured out that they put the wrong sticker on the box. HAHAHAHA So everything checks out. Just had to use the hobbywing instructions. It told me what item 1-4 was and all the values in the right order.
Im happy now hahaha
Now just to get them to replace these bunk lipos. I sent in pics and they are telling me that they will only replace one since the other is fine... Does this seem ok?

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1408/13642591/24441084/408074794.jpg

Tbauer
11-14-2013, 02:47 PM
LMake you jump thru hoops

shartinspartin
11-14-2013, 02:53 PM
Honestly Im just happy that my esc came in ok. (even with the wrong sticker the sent on the card)
I cant wait to try this beast

Tbauer
11-14-2013, 03:10 PM
You bought a Turnigy180?

shartinspartin
11-14-2013, 03:19 PM
ya about a couple weeks ago

Tbauer
11-14-2013, 03:23 PM
They still around 80?

Tbauer
11-14-2013, 03:35 PM
Also I forgot to mention, but 3m makes a 2 part epoxy that dries clear that when placed onto the esc totally waterproof it. I run twins in my Fantasm So I took them both apart and coated them with the 3m epoxy and they are flawless..

shartinspartin
11-14-2013, 03:53 PM
Ya still around 80.

Can you post a link of the 3m epoxy?

Tbauer
11-14-2013, 04:02 PM
They sell it here actually

shartinspartin
11-14-2013, 04:13 PM
oh ok thanks

rude5150
08-11-2014, 08:15 AM
That sky rc gps is in kph not mph.

twissted
08-11-2014, 02:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NE92iYOB3s

rude5150
08-11-2014, 09:12 PM
I just updated my skyrc gps. It now reads in MPH, GREAT!

rude5150
08-11-2014, 09:15 PM
Did u get a gps for your Zonda yet?

ray schrauwen
08-11-2014, 11:39 PM
OSE sells it but, not in stock at the moment. Search DP270. You can email Steve to see when he will have it back in stock.


Ya still around 80.

Can you post a link of the 3m epoxy?

3-UP
10-30-2014, 11:58 AM
Quick question I have a T180A ESC and want to replace the small aux cap bank , I have the 35v1000 caps just need to know how many to use . Thanks for any help. 4075 1800 motor / Mean Machine 5s 10000mah

Edit sorry wrong thread :(

785boats
10-31-2014, 10:15 AM
3-UP.
When I've added caps to a Seaking 180, I just added 3. But I still left the small cap bank in place.
I simply soldered the tails of the caps to the solder points of the original caps & hold everything in place with a bit of heat shrink. Make sure to get the polarities correct for each cap though.
Here's a couple of pics.