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Boat_guy
08-24-2013, 11:37 PM
I would like to thank everyone who have helped me answer all my questions regarding this boat, especially the ones on prop recommendation and shaft diameter.

Without further adieu, here's the new toy:
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/kul_blu_car/ShockwaveV3_zpsd45467d8.jpg (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/kul_blu_car/media/ShockwaveV3_zpsd45467d8.jpg.html)
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/kul_blu_car/ShockwaveV3II_zps8f7dca65.jpg (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/kul_blu_car/media/ShockwaveV3II_zps8f7dca65.jpg.html)
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/kul_blu_car/ShockwaveV3III_zpsabc88434.jpg (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/kul_blu_car/media/ShockwaveV3III_zpsabc88434.jpg.html)
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/kul_blu_car/ShockwaveV3IV_zps9bd3024e.jpg (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/kul_blu_car/media/ShockwaveV3IV_zps9bd3024e.jpg.html)

Once again, I would like to say thank you to everyone that helped me out! :thumbup:

Boat_guy
08-25-2013, 12:06 AM
Since I have a SPC 5000 mAh 2S lipo pack lying around with a deans connector, I decided to change the EC3 connectors on the ESC to a deans connector.

For those who want to know part numbers, this is the one that I bought:
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/kul_blu_car/Deans_zps81b0c84d.jpg (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/kul_blu_car/media/Deans_zps81b0c84d.jpg.html)




Before, with the EC3 connector:
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/kul_blu_car/ConnectorBefore_zpsc596d66e.jpg (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/kul_blu_car/media/ConnectorBefore_zpsc596d66e.jpg.html)
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/kul_blu_car/ConnectorBeforeII_zpscf4edd5b.jpg (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/kul_blu_car/media/ConnectorBeforeII_zpscf4edd5b.jpg.html)




After, with Deans connector installed:
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/kul_blu_car/ConnectorAfter_zps18ec99bd.jpg (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/kul_blu_car/media/ConnectorAfter_zps18ec99bd.jpg.html)
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/kul_blu_car/ConnectorAfterII_zps8132b612.jpg (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/kul_blu_car/media/ConnectorAfterII_zps8132b612.jpg.html)

I'm still waiting for the Marine grease and Octura x640 prop to arrive before trying it out at a nearby lake.

bigcam406
08-25-2013, 12:14 AM
congrats.thinking about grabbing one for myself.post some vids when you get it running.

Boat_guy
08-25-2013, 01:33 AM
congrats.thinking about grabbing one for myself.post some vids when you get it running.

Thanks man! :thumbup:

I'll definitely post vids once everything is all set up.

lenny
08-25-2013, 01:59 AM
I would run 5.5 but that's me.
Make sure you keep a eye on those connector on the motor to esc,
And that deans plug for high temps from the amp draw.

bigcam406
08-25-2013, 08:31 AM
just wondering,instead of waiting for your prop and grease,go grab some marine grease from a retailer in your area and throw on the stock prop.that way you can see what it runs like stock.then compare it to when you get the 640.

Boat_guy
08-25-2013, 10:52 AM
I would run 5.5 but that's me.
Make sure you keep a eye on those connector on the motor to esc,
And that deans plug for high temps from the amp draw.

I decided to run the Octura x640 since it's dimensions is very close to stock. How's the 5.5 like? Will the boat be faster with it?

I'll definitely keep an eye on the connectors you mentioned.

Thanks!



just wondering,instead of waiting for your prop and grease,go grab some marine grease from a retailer in your area and throw on the stock prop.that way you can see what it runs like stock.then compare it to when you get the 640.
I have decided to run the stock prop since I wanted to do a comparison video between the stock prop and Octura x640.

bigcam406
08-25-2013, 12:31 PM
the 5.5 he mentioned are the size of the connectors to use if need be for the motor to the esc.the stock ones will be fine for what you are using your boat for.

Boat_guy
08-25-2013, 12:38 PM
the 5.5 he mentioned are the size of the connectors to use if need be for the motor to the esc.the stock ones will be fine for what you are using your boat for.

I just plan to run a 5000 mah 30c 2S lipo, so I'm just sticking with the stock connectors. Btw, I have read somewhere that using larger connectors (from motor to ESC) creates more resistance. Is this true?

lenny
08-25-2013, 01:02 PM
For $10.00 try it and see what it does for the setup.
We all know that is the first thing to change on a rtr boat,
The 5.5 bullets just allow more conductivity for the electricity to flow through the setup a lot better.

lenny
08-25-2013, 01:03 PM
No. :nono:

:rofl:



I just plan to run a 5000 mah 30c 2S lipo, so I'm just sticking with the stock connectors. Btw, I have read somewhere that using larger connectors (from motor to ESC) creates more resistance. Is this true?

Boat_guy
08-25-2013, 01:10 PM
For $10.00 try it and see what it does for the setup.
We all know that is the first thing to change on a rtr boat,
The 5.5 bullets just allow more conductivity for the electricity to flow through the setup a lot better.
I'm going to run my boat stock first to see how hot will the esc and motor be after a 10 min run.

I already have some 5.5 connectors lying around, so I might have to install them sometime next week.



No. :nono:

:rofl:
I must've read something then got the wrong info or something. Lol! Hahahaha.

lenny
08-25-2013, 01:20 PM
Do 2 minutes and check temps and for water in the hull to,
Than if all good try 5 minutes and check again.

Boat_guy
08-25-2013, 01:23 PM
Do 2 minutes and check temps and for water in the hull to,
Than if all good try 5 minutes and check again.
Will do man.

Thanks!

lenny
08-25-2013, 01:32 PM
With a new boat you always need to check it over real good,
Because you never know what your really getting till you run it and than it is to late.
Better safe than sorry. :tiphat:

Boat_guy
08-25-2013, 01:42 PM
With a new boat you always need to check it over real good,
Because you never know what your really getting till you run it and than it is to late.
Better safe than sorry. :tiphat:
Yup! Your definitely right man. Thanks!

Just like the saying goes, "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure."

MrDriveby
08-25-2013, 01:55 PM
Congrats with the new boat! Hope you put out some videos when you hit the water

Boat_guy
08-25-2013, 01:57 PM
Congrats with the new boat! Hope you put out some videos when you hit the water

Thanks man!

I'll definitely post some videos.

Boat_guy
08-27-2013, 07:59 PM
Took the boat out today this morning.

My setup specs:
-5000 mAh 2S 30c
-Stock prop
-Lipo cutoff
-High timing mode

I was shocked since the boat was as fast as a Shockwave 26 v3 brushless with a Nimh battery! I'm guessing I'm going 15 mph and that is slow IMHO. No sudden surge of power. I searched youtube for a shockwave 26 v3 brushless on stock prop on 2S with no luck at all.

Most of the videos I see on YouTube that run on 2S have an upgraded metal prop. I really need to see one run on 2S with a stock prop for comparison.

Any links on youtube that show a Shockwave 26 v3 on stock prop on 2S would be nice.

Thanks in advance guys!

bigcam406
08-27-2013, 09:35 PM
have you tried it with nihm's?i would run a 7cell just to compare. as far as vids for the v3 shockwave,most ive seen were with 3s and different props.maybe you should check your battery.you could try it with 3s and your new prop,just check your temps.keep us posted.

Boat_guy
08-27-2013, 09:46 PM
you mean its as slow as a the shockwave version 1? as far as vids for the v3 shockwave,most ive seen were with 3s and different props.maybe you should check your battery.you could try it with 3s and your new prop,just check your temps.keep us posted.

Yeah, on 2S it's as slow as the shockwave version 1.

I have yet to see a running video of v3 shockwave on 2S with the stock prop. I would be grateful if anyone can show me a link to that.

My first thought was the battery. One of the cells might be kaput. Have to check that tonight.

I don't have my new prop yet. Still waiting for the order to be processed.

On this run, my temps were excellent since the boat is running slow. Lol!

Will definitely keep you guys updated on this!

bigcam406
08-27-2013, 10:13 PM
that boat should be doing an easy 20mph on 2s.check your battery.try running a 7cell nihm to see how it performs.

Boat_guy
08-27-2013, 10:50 PM
that boat should be doing an easy 20mph on 2s.check your battery.try running a 7cell nihm to see how it performs.

To me, it seems to be going 15 mph on 2S, which is quite slow. That's Nimh speeds.

The battery might be the culprit. I'll check the voltage on each lipo cell later tonight.

My 7-cell nimh needs to be recycled, so I basically have no choice now but to see a video of one with 2S on the stock prop.

I'll post a video tmrw so you guys can help and chime in on the problem as well.

Boat_guy
08-28-2013, 03:47 AM
This is now my dilemma, I'm choosing between the Octura...

X640
-Diameter: 1.57"
-Pitch: 1.57" x 1.6 = 2.512"

---OR---

X642
-Diameter: 1.65"
-Pitch: 1.65" x 1.6 = 2.64"

STOCK composite prop (For reference)
-Diameter: 1.6"
-Pitch: 2.5"

Which Octura prop will be able to give the boat a faster acceleration and faster top speed? Will the X642 burn the ESC since it's slightly bigger than the stock prop and since it's metal, will the motor have a slightly harder time turning it?

lenny
08-28-2013, 08:08 AM
Hear a not to bad video.
Put a wtb up for a S&B prop like a x440/3 and may be you can find a good deal.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=irrxxvKeBKQ

Cinnabun
08-28-2013, 08:23 AM
Those props sound huge for a 26" hull.

I'd look at the 440 range, as Lenny suggested the 440/3 is a very nice prop

bigcam406
08-28-2013, 10:25 AM
that video Lenny posted is of a Shockwave V2 with the 2900kv motor and a smaller prop.different setup that came stock back then.i run a x435 on my nitro Fastech.remember,the 1500kv motor that comes stock with the V3 is very torquey,so it can spin a larger prop with no issues.i'd stick with the 640,as its about as close to the stock prop in dimensions.later on,you can experiment with a 440.if you checked the battery,did you find anything wrong with it?

bigcam406
08-28-2013, 11:33 AM
justa thought,but I was thinking that when you swapped connectors to deans,think that it might be the culprit? not saying you did anything wrong,but you never know.maybe check them as well.

Boat_guy
08-28-2013, 03:49 PM
Hear a not to bad video.
Put a wtb up for a S&B prop like a x440/3 and may be you can find a good deal.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=irrxxvKeBKQ
This sort of answers my question since the 2S lipo that I have ran like the 6-cell nimh.

I'm currently waiting for Steven Vaccaro, the offshore electrics rep to email me when a S&B x640 becomes available.



Those props sound huge for a 26" hull.

I'd look at the 440 range, as Lenny suggested the 440/3 is a very nice prop
I'll look into those props as well.



that video Lenny posted is of a Shockwave V2 with the 2900kv motor and a smaller prop.different setup that came stock back then.i run a x435 on my nitro Fastech.remember,the 1500kv motor that comes stock with the V3 is very torquey,so it can spin a larger prop with no issues.i'd stick with the 640,as its about as close to the stock prop in dimensions.later on,you can experiment with a 440.if you checked the battery,did you find anything wrong with it?
The rc guy also said that the V3 is very torquey and he continued to say that the x640 is probably the best prop for the V3.

Btw, my 2S lipos were the problem. The voltage/cell should should be fairly close after getting it fully charged, but mine were too far apart. So they are basically not balanced.



justa thought,but I was thinking that when you swapped connectors to deans,think that it might be the culprit? not saying you did anything wrong,but you never know.maybe check them as well.
The deans connectors were good after testing them. Thanks for telling me about that. That helped narrow the problem down to the battery.

bigcam406
08-28-2013, 10:39 PM
that's good that its the battery.get a 3s and the new prop and you should be rockin:rockon2:

Boat_guy
08-29-2013, 04:47 AM
that's good that its the battery.get a 3s and the new prop and you should be rockin:rockon2:
2S for now. Want to get used to the power first before stepping it up to 3S. Brw, I'm still waiting on Steven Vaccaro, the offshore electrics rep to email me when a S&B x640 becomes available.

Boat_guy
08-29-2013, 04:59 AM
Decided to do the decals today... Chose blue!
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/kul_blu_car/1_zps86df7160.jpg (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/kul_blu_car/media/1_zps86df7160.jpg.html)
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/kul_blu_car/2_zps7be98860.jpg (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/kul_blu_car/media/2_zps7be98860.jpg.html)



I noticed that the proboat shockwave 26's either came in blue, red, or magenta... I wanted to be UNIQUE so decided to combine the red with the blue so it came out to be something like this:
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/kul_blu_car/3_zps79e2d111.jpg (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/kul_blu_car/media/3_zps79e2d111.jpg.html)



I also noticed that the rear cover had no red accents to it so I decided to add some in there:
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/kul_blu_car/5_zps33853a16.jpg (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/kul_blu_car/media/5_zps33853a16.jpg.html)



Voila! Here's the final product:
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/kul_blu_car/6_zps29412de6.jpg (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/kul_blu_car/media/6_zps29412de6.jpg.html)



View from another angle:
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/kul_blu_car/9_zps2437c437.jpg (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/kul_blu_car/media/9_zps2437c437.jpg.html)

bigcam406
08-29-2013, 07:51 AM
well, I hope a new 2s will perk that boat up.BTW,boat looks good!

Boat_guy
08-29-2013, 01:59 PM
well, I hope a new 2s will perk that boat up.BTW,boat looks good!
Yeah, I hope I can really see a change on a new 2S.

Thanks for the compliment man!

srislash
08-29-2013, 08:56 PM
Looks good,real flashy

Boat_guy
08-30-2013, 01:26 AM
Looks good,real flashy
Thanks!


UPDATE! Here's a video of my ProBoat Shockwave 26 V3 Brushless on 2S Lipo.

Not as fast as I thought. I really think that it should it be running faster since it's now on 2S... What do you guys think?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-uRTJtrII8



Here is another video I found on youtube. If you really look carefully, and compare this video with my video above, you will see that my boat goes pretty much the same speed as the Brushed ProBoat with nimh. Also, my boat does not sound as loud as the brushless boat on 2S. Since my post on #29 found the battery to be the culprit, it's pretty much a dead giveaway that the faulty 2S battery may be causing the slow boat speeds. We'll see how it goes with a newer 2S lipo battery.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTNffiX5_dQ



Btw, here is a video of a ProBoat Shockwave 26 BRUSHED on 2S Lipo. If you compare the speed of my boat to this video, you will notice that the speed is almost the same.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSbXcveo7j4



Conclusion: Since my boat does not sound as loud as the brushless boat on 2S on the second video, this somehow tells me that there is very little juice coming out of the battery to power the ESC and motor. I have to wait for the new 2S lipo pack to arrive to really confirm that the 2S lipo battery is the culprit causing the boat to run at a slower speed than usual.

Will update you guys once I have the the new 2S lipo pack...

bigcam406
08-30-2013, 08:23 AM
I wouldn't worry too much about it.post a vid when you run your new 2s and see if there is a marginal difference.

3b3b
08-30-2013, 03:21 PM
I have the same boat btw.

Your video looks good for 2s. Don't compare yours with the second (louder) video because it's a different boat - not the V3.

You could try raising the trim tabs upwards for more speed.

There's a little play in the rudder which is annoying. If you take some plumbers tape and wrap it around the bolt (but not where the thread and nut connect) you can reduce the play... then you can set up the rudder depending how you want the hull to ride on the water.

3s will make a big difference even with the stock prop. 40C will make everything cooler. I have a 30C 3s lipo and the lipo gets to mid 120ish temps.

I run a 42x55 grim prop with a 4400mah 40c 3s and everything is cool. But I've also added another velco strip closer to the motor (you have tons of room) in keeping the boat planted down.

Boat_guy
08-31-2013, 07:45 PM
I wouldn't worry too much about it.post a vid when you run your new 2s and see if there is a marginal difference.
Yeah, I thought about that as well.

I'll definitely post a video when the new 2S has arrived. I really want to compare and see if there is a marginal difference.



I have the same boat btw.

Your video looks good for 2s. Don't compare yours with the second (louder) video because it's a different boat - not the V3.

You could try raising the trim tabs upwards for more speed.

There's a little play in the rudder which is annoying. If you take some plumbers tape and wrap it around the bolt (but not where the thread and nut connect) you can reduce the play... then you can set up the rudder depending how you want the hull to ride on the water.

3s will make a big difference even with the stock prop. 40C will make everything cooler. I have a 30C 3s lipo and the lipo gets to mid 120ish temps.

I run a 42x55 grim prop with a 4400mah 40c 3s and everything is cool. But I've also added another velco strip closer to the motor (you have tons of room) in keeping the boat planted down.

Really? Does it really runs good on 2S? I thought otherwise. I'll take your advice on the trim tabs wind I wanted to gain more speed.

I also plan to reduce play by applying your method.

Once I get bored with the 2S, I'll might get a 5300 3S 40c. I went from a 2S to a 3S on my stampede 4x4, and all I could say is WOW! Acceleration amd top speed is significantly better!

Thanks fot jthe input man!

Boat_guy
08-31-2013, 07:46 PM
I wouldn't worry too much about it.post a vid when you run your new 2s and see if there is a marginal difference.
Yeah, I thought about that as well.

I'll definitely post a video when the new 2S has arrived. I really want to compare and see if there is a marginal difference.



I have the same boat btw.

Your video looks good for 2s. Don't compare yours with the second (louder) video because it's a different boat - not the V3.

You could try raising the trim tabs upwards for more speed.

There's a little play in the rudder which is annoying. If you take some plumbers tape and wrap it around the bolt (but not where the thread and nut connect) you can reduce the play... then you can set up the rudder depending how you want the hull to ride on the water.

3s will make a big difference even with the stock prop. 40C will make everything cooler. I have a 30C 3s lipo and the lipo gets to mid 120ish temps.

I run a 42x55 grim prop with a 4400mah 40c 3s and everything is cool. But I've also added another velco strip closer to the motor (you have tons of room) in keeping the boat planted down.

Really? Does it really run good on 2S? I thought otherwise. I'll take your advice on the trim tabs since I wanted to gain more speed. I also plan to reduce play by applying your method.

Once I get bored with the 2S, I'll might get a 5300 3S 40c. I went from a 2S to a 3S on my stampede 4x4, and all I could say is WOW! Acceleration amd top speed is significantly better!

Thanks for the input man!

bigcam406
08-31-2013, 10:21 PM
I seen some new vids with the shockwave v3 bl on 3s.yes,there is a big difference in speed,so I wouldn't be too disappointed with the boat on 2s.run it and enjoy.

Boat_guy
09-01-2013, 11:25 PM
I seen some new vids with the shockwave v3 bl on 3s.yes,there is a big difference in speed,so I wouldn't be too disappointed with the boat on 2s.run it and enjoy.

Yeah, I also have seen videos of the shockwave v3 BL on 3S. Really fast! Once I get bored with the 2S, I'll might get a 5300 3S.

Still waiting for the new 2S to arrive to compare it with the faulty unit if there are any marginal change.

3b3b
09-03-2013, 11:28 PM
You check out this video? Unsure if the setup is stock or not.
http://youtu.be/Nn4wI7x_wGc

bigcam406
09-04-2013, 12:13 AM
not stock,he upgraded to a castle system apparently and in the video,the boat is doing 40mph.

Boat_guy
09-04-2013, 03:45 AM
not stock,he upgraded to a castle system apparently and in the video,the boat is doing 40mph.
+1!


You check out this video? Unsure if the setup is stock or not.
http://youtu.be/Nn4wI7x_wGc

Yeah, I saw that video when I did a search on youtube. I read most of his comments and he stated that he has a castle system in it.