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Its not out yet, but looks like it might be really cool.:spy:
I hope to have my hands on one before the snow flies....:banana:
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Stay tuned for more info as I get it.....
Just got some pics of their new hull...very nice...will post tomorrow.
srislash
09-12-2013, 01:20 AM
If it is anything like that Caudwell boat,BRAVO :cool2:
ron1950
09-12-2013, 12:05 PM
ill be watching this one.... any idear when they will release the tunnel?
OK...Here we go.....
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ill be watching this one.... any idear when they will release the tunnel?
Not sure yet...They have the prototype done already though...
ron1950
09-12-2013, 02:55 PM
They makeing it inboard or what? Real boat uses just a lower unit sticking out like a strut set up
It will be an outboard apparently.
ron1950
09-12-2013, 03:18 PM
If the cowelling covers the 2030 motor i want one now! heck id get one even if it doesent lol
ron1950
09-12-2013, 09:30 PM
id like to see a pic with the cowell off
I asked for a pic of the back and inside.....we'll see................
LiPo Power
09-12-2013, 10:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4buTnduRJXc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyG74wElZeA
ron1950
09-13-2013, 12:21 AM
hey doby heard from monica today here is what she said about the tunnel
About the outboard, yes, we intend to have a cowling covers the motor,we intend to offer three diferrent versions of the new tunnels for hobbyists, the first is a hull (just a hull without any hardwares); the second is with inboard(with hardwares and inboard motor); the third is with outboard( with hardware and outboard motor,of course the outboard with a cowl cover).
Until now, our new tunnel is no available yet, our designer and technical colleagues are researching and developing the hardwares and testing them. We estimate the new tunnel will be available for hobbyists next Spring.But we will update the development of it.
What are the measurements of this great lookin boat?
hey doby heard from monica today here is what she said about the tunnel
About the outboard, yes, we intend to have a cowling covers the motor,we intend to offer three diferrent versions of the new tunnels for hobbyists, the first is a hull (just a hull without any hardwares); the second is with inboard(with hardwares and inboard motor); the third is with outboard( with hardware and outboard motor,of course the outboard with a cowl cover).
Until now, our new tunnel is no available yet, our designer and technical colleagues are researching and developing the hardwares and testing them. We estimate the new tunnel will be available for hobbyists next Spring.But we will update the development of it.
They offered me a hull already to try out, but with no hardware. As I'm curious to see what there outboard will be like, I'll be holding off till the complete set is ready...I want to try it as a P-Spec legal OPC.
Its nice that they will be offering it in 3 different configurations.
LNP...the dimensions are: 750mm x 290mm...similar to a Aquacraft VS-1
ron1950
09-13-2013, 03:11 PM
yes I am courious to see there outboard but id take a blank hull now and see what a OS lower can make it do....if its light and the setup is right id say it will be competive sence most heats have 2 or 3 boats blow over lol
When you have more pictures please share them :rockon2:
kenrid
09-18-2013, 09:10 AM
Great looking hull. I hope there will be plenty of room for Lipos. My experience with two outboard tunnels to date - [VS1 and Thunder Tiger Bandit] has been limited space for batteries. I have a HOR racing [Ex Hong Kong] outboard leg ( may be from TFL??) that would be great for this hull. I look forward to more information and seeing it sail!
T.S.Davis
10-21-2013, 01:07 PM
If it's from HOR it came from TFL. I've never put my hands on one of those legs. Looks a bit like an OS. Is it similar? That's the leg I recommended they try. They have a 36/50/2080kv motor that's really inexpensive but it's not been released in an RTR and isn't 6 pole so doesn't meet the NAMBA spec. Still working on that.
Not sure if any of you have researched the boat it was modeled after but it's quite controversial in that it's not really an outboard the way we all think of them. I'm not suggesting it should be run inboard BTW.
ray schrauwen
10-21-2013, 02:52 PM
If it's from HOR it came from TFL. I've never put my hands on one of those legs. Looks a bit like an OS. Is it similar? That's the leg I recommended they try. They have a 36/50/2080kv motor that's really inexpensive but it's not been released in an RTR and isn't 6 pole so doesn't meet the NAMBA spec. Still working on that.
Not sure if any of you have researched the boat it was modeled after but it's quite controversial in that it's not really an outboard the way we all think of them. I'm not suggesting it should be run inboard BTW.
AQ and PB are closer to 55mm long yes?
T.S.Davis
10-21-2013, 03:29 PM
Yep 56.
ron1950
10-21-2013, 09:27 PM
terry when are you getting yours? lol
ray schrauwen
10-21-2013, 09:47 PM
Soon I hope. It would be good to see how it does with heavy P-Sport power on the 1/6th mile course before it all freezes up.
T.S.Davis
10-21-2013, 10:06 PM
I really don't know for sure. TFL and I have a lot of irons in the fire so to speak. Getting that one figured out is actually kind of low on priority list right now.
ron1950
10-21-2013, 10:50 PM
Come-on Maaan lol they don't make that many fe boats lol
I have it on good authority that Terry has one of their hulls that isn't on their website!
ron1950
10-21-2013, 11:14 PM
I don't doubt that as half the time depending on which tfl site u get from google they have different boats
Darin Jordan
10-22-2013, 12:11 AM
Yep 56.
Current Pro Boat motors are actually only 50mm. However, if you pull all of them apart, you'll find that the rotors are, or were, the same length. Not sure if AQ has changed theirs since the last time I measured.
ray schrauwen
10-22-2013, 10:24 AM
Not sure either but, AQ winds the 2030 differently now than they first did. I can get better pics but, it's dead obvious they have a LOT less copper in the stator.
PICS (http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/showthread.php?43896-UL-1-motors-old-and-new-very-different&highlight=)
Current Pro Boat motors are actually only 50mm. However, if you pull all of them apart, you'll find that the rotors are, or were, the same length. Not sure if AQ has changed theirs since the last time I measured.
T.S.Davis
10-22-2013, 10:55 AM
Both AQ and Proboat have evolved some since they first came out. Not saying better or worse. Might be just different production runs.
I know the first batch of 2030's I had I was throwing magnets like crazy. Not so much now. Lately it's the lead right at the winding that gives out. I blame the shellac being too low temp but what do I know really. Wild speculation on my part. I used to think it was that extra piece of shrink but it's further inside the motor lately.
ron1950
10-22-2013, 01:14 PM
I must have bought a few 2030's at the right time as none of mine have had problems....in fact the 2030 I used on my ps295 tunnel used to spend a lot of time underwater and it still performed great
And back on the topic we go..........
ron1950
10-22-2013, 01:49 PM
that's ok doby they still wont sell me one lol
ray schrauwen
10-22-2013, 02:04 PM
A sweet boat to say the least Doby, Monica, TFL. I'm just not into OPC... or wasn't until this hit the pages. It's nice scale looks are very welcome.
Everyone should have and OPC...totally different boat to drive...you have to think a bit about what you are doing:laugh:
T.S.Davis
10-22-2013, 03:13 PM
It's really not ready for prime time consumption. It may well be that the bottom doesn't work and has to be redesigned. Be patient guys. I have a hull I've never even posted pictures of for the same reason.
Got some vid of the prototype...
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNjYyMzY5Mzcy.html
ron1950
01-16-2014, 09:36 PM
sounds like a nitro boat in the vid monica said they might be available after Chinese new year
its a nitro for sure....I'm sure the FE will be out soon.
Monica Smith
01-17-2014, 08:21 AM
Hi Ron,
You are right! On the video, it is a gasoline boat！ The engine is offered by our Japanese Distributor, the driver on the video is the Hobby Company's owner. He is very interested in this boat, plans to be the sole distributor of the Caudwell boat in Japan!
Monica
Monica Smith
01-17-2014, 08:26 AM
its a nitro for sure....I'm sure the FE will be out soon.
Hi John,
Correct! We will offer two different version for hobbyists, one is gasoline, the other one is electric. Because some distributors like gasoline. like the drive in the video who is the owner of one Japanese Hobby Company.
Monica
Kris Flynn
01-19-2014, 01:21 AM
Monica, is that an OS outboard? Can you get a video of it going full speed in the corners?
Monica Smith
01-20-2014, 09:22 AM
Monica, is that an OS outboard? Can you get a video of it going full speed in the corners?
Hello Kris,
You are right! It is an OS gasoline outboard! That OS gasoline outboard was offered by one of our Japanese distributor. He likes gasoline version, so offered some OS gasoline outboards to us to install with the boat.
The official will be taken later.
Monica Smith
04-26-2014, 12:24 PM
TFL Caudwell Tunnel testing in Nitro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll6O9NtnBa4&feature=youtu.be
ron1950
04-26-2014, 12:30 PM
when do you think the fe version will be ready.....
tlandauer
04-26-2014, 08:43 PM
when do you think the fe version will be ready.....
:drool: I want to know too, You beat me to it, Ron, lol...
T.S.Davis
05-29-2014, 10:09 PM
We ran this Wednesday with the TFL leg and a 2030 AQ motor. For an initial voyage I was pretty impressed. I thought it ran pretty well. The transom doesn't allow the leg to adjust up high enough......we think. Gonna throw a jack plate on there.
First race.........daa a a a Nats.
ron1950
05-30-2014, 11:42 AM
they ever going to get a fe version ready?
T.S.Davis
05-30-2014, 01:51 PM
Not sure how you mean.
This was a bare hull they sent that we assembled for FE as we saw fit. Servo mounting plates had to be figured out. Then routing of wires from motor to speedo. Sealing it all up. Same kind of thing guys were doing with the VS1. The VS1 was never specifically intended for FE. It just worked once setup.
The leg that TFL sells is very very similar to the OS unit by the way. Accept there is no adapter required. Motor mounting holes are part of the cast and machining. There was some trickery required to get the coupler to work though. We'll have to address that.
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flraptor07
05-30-2014, 02:41 PM
What Ron meant is when is the FE version going to be released for sale to the public. I just looked at a boat list that Monica just sent me a couple days ago and the Caudwell is on it as available now, ya might want to send her a note..
ron1950
05-30-2014, 04:08 PM
monica has been telling me that the nitro version is out not the fe...someone needs to get it together
flraptor07
05-30-2014, 04:14 PM
monica has been telling me that the nitro version is out not the fe...someone needs to get it together
Ron when was the last time you checked? The list I just got has it listed with FE specs. Give me your Email and I'll forward you the list I just got, it has a complete parts list too.
T.S.Davis
05-30-2014, 10:24 PM
This a hard concept for me to grasp. All my boats are parts and assembly required. My Outrage is a 45" gas cat so......."FE version" doesn't compute.
Terry, I believe TFL is going to release a rtr FE version.,
T.S.Davis
05-31-2014, 12:29 AM
I think they might be waiting for some feedback from me actually.
So get on that.............
Monica Smith
06-03-2014, 11:33 PM
Dear All:
About the FE version of F1 Caudwell Tunnel boat, it is still underway to test and debug！If anyone has good ideas of the hardware for it, please go here to give us your ideas :
https://www.facebook.com/pages/TFL-Hobby-Manufacturer/649307068451344?ref=hl
Thanks for your greatly attention!
Monica Smith
Monica Smith
06-03-2014, 11:34 PM
I think they might be waiting for some feedback from me actually.
Yes, Terry, that is true, very true!
Well we got if on the water tonight with a jacking plate added and what a difference that made a few adjustments to the strut and she is ready to run at the Nat's a few more very small thing to touch up. And she ready to roll Terry took a video of it maybe he can post it
T.S.Davis
06-05-2014, 03:42 AM
It's getting close. Just need to find the throttle sweet spot to make a smooth turn. Needs a stronger servo too.
I'll get the video up later.........when I'm awake.
flraptor07
06-05-2014, 08:57 AM
Terry, I found these new servos, I picked up a couple and put one in my Cheetah build and they work real nice. Probably the smoothest servo I've ever used and waterproof too. Also the price is reasonable, all the reviews I read about them were good and a lot of Heli guys use them. This one is 319 oz. @ 7.4 volt http://www.ebay.com/itm/KST-BLS259-Standard-HV-Metal-Case-Metal-Gear-Digital-Brushless-Waterproof-Servo-/291108654805?pt=Radio_Control_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43c76d8ed5 Here's another one that's 347oz. @ 7.4 volt www.ebay.com/itm/KST-DS2509MG-Standard-HV-Metal-Case-Metal-Gear-Digital-Coreless-Servo-/390803782859?pt=Radio_Control_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5afdb87ccbw The quality sure looks good all Billet cases and the detail is nice, they look just as nice inside too.
longballlumber
06-05-2014, 10:22 AM
Terry, I found these new servos, I picked up a couple and put one in my Cheetah build and they work real nice. Probably the smoothest servo I've ever used and waterproof too. Also the price is reasonable, all the reviews I read about them were good and a lot of Heli guys use them. This one is 319 oz. @ 7.4 volt http://www.ebay.com/itm/KST-BLS259-Standard-HV-Metal-Case-Metal-Gear-Digital-Brushless-Waterproof-Servo-/291108654805?pt=Radio_Control_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43c76d8ed5 Here's another one that's 347oz. @ 7.4 volt www.ebay.com/itm/KST-DS2509MG-Standard-HV-Metal-Case-Metal-Gear-Digital-Coreless-Servo-/390803782859?pt=Radio_Control_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5afdb87ccbw The quality sure looks good all Billet cases and the detail is nice, they look just as nice inside too.
Those servos are rated at 6.0 vots (min). Can they operate OK on a lower voltage? Or, you could check and see what the output voltage is on the BEC of your speedcontrol. Not all servos are created equal anymore. You need to be aware of the operating voltage of the servo, the output voltage of your BEC, and/or the input-output voltage of your RX. Just food for thought.
Later,
Mike
T.S.Davis
06-05-2014, 10:30 AM
I think Fred has his sights on the waterproof Savox. I have some of those. So far so good. The way Fred built the boat it will have to be waterproof. I don't think the Castle speedo he's using spits out 7.4v. I'm sure the KST will run on less just wont get the 347. More like 275 ish. Not sure what it really takes though.
Mike, didn't you finally end up going to a huge torque Futaba on you OPC?
T.S.Davis
06-05-2014, 10:38 AM
I looked again. They have ratings for the lower voltage. Looks like 290 range at 6 volts.
longballlumber
06-05-2014, 11:17 AM
Mike, didn't you finally end up going to a huge torque Futaba on you OPC?
Yep, Peterson and Kewley were the ones who convinced me that I needed more torque. I think my Futaba's are 200oz-300oz. I would need to double check.
I looked again. They have ratings for the lower voltage. Looks like 290 range at 6 volts.
I would be concerned that you don't have "enough" voltage to operate the servo motor efficiently causing the servomotor to overheat under load and pre-maturely fail (assuming your under the lower limit of the voltage rating). I am not suggesting that will happen, I just wonder why they list a lower limit and not "up to 8.0 volts" I only say this because the Aquacraft controller is rated at 5.2v at 2amps. I am not sure what other controllers are.
Later,
Ball
T.S.Davis
06-05-2014, 12:10 PM
I was going to look at my Hydra120 for the BEC voltage but it's unrecognizable after the last flame out. Crispy critter.
flraptor07
06-05-2014, 01:49 PM
I use seperate 2s 6.6v Life Rx packs now, ever since I had a brand new Castle super BEC short out and burn up a Rx, Servo and almost a new SF 240 Pro Plus. This way I know exactly how much voltage I have at any given time.
T.S.Davis
06-06-2014, 11:09 AM
Dang it! My phone autocorrected the title when I uploaded and I didn't catch it. Not sure I can change the title on a YT video.
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Don't mind the fool commentary please.
It's getting close. Respectable enough to race at this point.
T.S.Davis
06-29-2014, 07:13 PM
Yes we can. Placed 3rd at the NAMBA nationals. I think it could have done better if Fred had more stick time with it but you know how that goes. You still have to get around the two guys who beat ya. Those guys really are that good too.
I'm going to crate it up up as it sits and ship it to TFL so they can see exactly how we did it.
covedweller
07-19-2014, 08:13 PM
Really nice lookin tunnel. I have converted two VS1's and its a good boat, but I want a glass hull. Looked at top speed 3 but that is old design. AQ might be working on a new one, as the VS1 is old too, so please hurry with the FE version TFL! :hornets_nest:
ron1950
07-20-2014, 10:24 PM
hey terry did u guys recommend they make a jack plate for the boat?
T.S.Davis
07-21-2014, 08:33 AM
Yes sir. That's what it will take. Or a modified mount on their existing lower unit.
Darin Jordan
07-21-2014, 09:30 AM
Really nice lookin tunnel. I have converted two VS1's and its a good boat, but I want a glass hull. Looked at top speed 3 but that is old design. AQ might be working on a new one, as the VS1 is old too, so please hurry with the FE version TFL! :hornets_nest:
The funny thing about water... it's properties haven't changed in, well... a PRETTY long time... the Lynx is an "old design" also... ;)
Darin Jordan
07-21-2014, 11:22 AM
I do really like how "scale" this one looks... That's always fun. Hopefully TFL will get the hardware sorted out.
I am really hopeful that we can get a BUNCH more people racing OPC Tunnels. They are a challenge, but that's why they are fun.
Grimracer
07-23-2014, 09:01 AM
The Villian S1 was designed in 1997. The boat raced its first nats in 1999 where I met Carl who also had a new boat under his arm...
Grim
covedweller
07-23-2014, 07:06 PM
The funny thing about water... it's properties haven't changed in, well... a PRETTY long time... the Lynx is an "old design" also... ;)
If I could get my hands on a Lynx I would do it like yesterday. Funny thing, lots of nice hulls out there, but none available! Kinda like the ocean, water water everywhere, but not a drop to drink! I saw your lynx at the Nats at twin lakes Darin, Congrats by the way. You racing with the club Sunday? Would like to pick yur brain on some set-up hints for my ML310.
flraptor07
07-24-2014, 11:01 AM
I've aquired 3 OPC hulls over the last 6mos. or so (1) a brand new unmolested Stiletto (2) H&M F-1 Skater (3) TFL Sprint F-3. Which one would you guys put together?
Namba328
07-30-2014, 08:52 PM
cough........ cough....... how do you find the lower unit?
tlandauer
07-30-2014, 10:32 PM
I've aquired 3 OPC hulls over the last 6mos. or so (1) a brand new unmolested Stiletto (2) H&M F-1 Skater (3) TFL Sprint F-3. Which one would you guys put together?
Nice collections! :buttrock: Speaking of tunnel hulls, I have a few ( not to brag, but to "commiserate") : two ML PS-295, one TS-3, one VS-1 and a Woodstuff tunnel. :olleyes: Last but not least, a NIB Stiletto :w00t:
I've got FE addiction...:o
flraptor07
07-30-2014, 10:58 PM
Nice collections! :buttrock: Speaking of tunnel hulls, I have a few ( not to brag, but to "commiserate") : two ML PS-295, one TS-3, one VS-1 and a Woodstuff tunnel. :olleyes: Last but not least, a NIB Stiletto :w00t:
I've got FE addiction...:o
It's not an addiction, it's an OBSESSION!:lol:
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