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Doby
08-08-2013, 08:34 PM
Snooping around the Internet a few weeks ago, I came across this :w00t:

http://www.tflhobby.com/product/ele_boats/popeye/popeye_y.html#


As I already have one of their Genesis hulls (that I was reasonably impressed with the overall quality of the construction), I though the Popeye might make an interesting P-Spec Hydro (LSH) or possibly a P-Hydro.
Just an FYI, my Genesis pushes 60 Mph on a 6S setup and has survived several spectacular crashes with no apparent issues, so in my book, that makes it a well built hull.


After contacting TFL and discussing the possibilities, they were kind enough to offer me a free hull/hardware so I could install my electronics as I see fit.

After 8 days in transit (including a Canadian long weekend) it arrived this afternoon.:thumbup:

I'll start posting pics as I put it together.

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I asked TFL if I could have a simple, plain white hull as it will get my usual black/white checker treatment when its done. Again, they were kind enough to agree.:tiphat:

Doby
08-08-2013, 08:41 PM
The inside hull is as big as a bathtub with lots of room for 2x 2S setups, single 4S or 4S2P setups with lots of room to spare.

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Doby
08-08-2013, 08:43 PM
And more battery configurations: The 1st 2 pics are 2s packs, the rest are 4S 5800 mah packs

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Doby
08-08-2013, 08:44 PM
And some more: These are 5800mah 4S packs.....pretty big.

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lenny
08-08-2013, 09:00 PM
I want one,
Looks like a really nice hull.
And their other boat look very cool to,
What are their prices on them ?
I do not see any on their site.

Doby
08-08-2013, 09:10 PM
Hi Lenny:

You would have to contact TFL for the price.

Here are some pics of the strut removed, with the square shaft and flex:

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It did have an ample amount of grease on it, but I cleaned it off and will use my GrimRacer grease instead...just my preference.

Doby
08-08-2013, 09:40 PM
One area that needed re-enforcing was where the stuffing tube exits the hull...out comes the good old JB Weld, after scruffing the tube and hull with 80 grit sandpaper.

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Brushless55
08-08-2013, 11:16 PM
I've wondered about these hulls..
what is the length and width ?

jcald2000
08-09-2013, 06:19 AM
Be prepared to cut those deep air traps off by capping them off now.

Doby
08-09-2013, 08:20 AM
Be prepared to cut those deep air traps off by capping them off now.

English please???

Are you referring to the strakes along the bottom of the hull?

chief3452
08-09-2013, 10:42 AM
This is a great looking hull.

It is also available at HOR as a plain hull
http://www.horracing.com/product_info.php?cPath=37_62&products_id=567

or ARTR
http://www.horracing.com/product_info.php?cPath=41_98&products_id=569

I will be very interested in your setup and results Doby.

ray schrauwen
08-09-2013, 11:30 AM
Yeah, that's what he means... Skinny tunnel so possibly they are to trap more air for lower power systems??? I'm glad you got it for free as it is one FUNKY design.



English please???

Are you referring to the strakes along the bottom of the hull?

Doby
08-09-2013, 12:12 PM
No major hull mods will be done, its going to hit the water as close to stock as possible. Why would I do that before it even gets wet the first time??

Doby
08-09-2013, 12:14 PM
Yeah, that's what he means... Skinny tunnel so possibly they are to trap more air for lower power systems??? I'm glad you got it for free as it is one FUNKY design.

Hi Ray:

It is a funky design...something a bit different... Come down next weekend and see her go!

ray schrauwen
08-09-2013, 12:18 PM
Hi Ray:

It is a funky design...something a bit different... Come down next weekend and see her go!

I can come by but, I can't run boats since I have no IMPBA and I haven't joined GRMM. Of course you are always welcome to come out my way to run boats. I run at Louis St. Laurent blvd. Flood pond in Milton and another flood pond at 9th line and Brittania for free...

ray schrauwen
08-09-2013, 12:20 PM
Also did it come with the TFL 3660 2075kv 4 pole motor?? That is a legal motor by NAMBA since they have been in a production run greater than 100+ units...

Doby
08-09-2013, 12:47 PM
Also did it come with the TFL 3660 2075kv 4 pole motor?? That is a legal motor by NAMBA since they have been in a production run greater than 100+ units...

Nope, just got the hull and hardware...as for the legality of the motor......thats a topic for another thread because we all know where that could lead to!!!!:scared::scared:

Don't want to get into that on this thread.:huh:

ray schrauwen
08-09-2013, 12:49 PM
It's right in NAMBA rules as I read them before going to MI Cup. But, yes that's another thread.....

Me so sorry! lol...:bounce:

Doby
08-09-2013, 12:59 PM
Thanks..

Brushless55
08-09-2013, 01:41 PM
This is a great looking hull.

It is also available at HOR as a plain hull
http://www.horracing.com/product_info.php?cPath=37_62&products_id=567

or ARTR
http://www.horracing.com/product_info.php?cPath=41_98&products_id=569

I will be very interested in your setup and results Doby.

thanks now I can see the specs of the hull

ron1950
08-09-2013, 06:36 PM
i like the room inside...is it very light? say lighter then a fe 30? looks good too

Doby
08-09-2013, 06:45 PM
Not sure what an FE 30 weighs......but with all the hardware and electronics in it, this weighs in at 4.1lbs

My current Phil Thomas LSH weighs in at 4.4 lbs.
My Motley Crew weighs 4.5 lbs
My Revolt weighs 3.8 lbs

ray schrauwen
08-10-2013, 04:59 AM
Thanks for the PM John, I'd like to see it run. This weekend is a bust with Honey Do'd etc... Next weekend sounds good too. Might have my PT back together to race you against this one...

kenrid
08-11-2013, 03:23 AM
103668I have had one of these hulls for a few months now, with limited success. It initially ran quite wet and so I have tried a couple of motors and adjusted the strut angle. First ran with a Leopard LPB4074 2200 KV on 4S and was just too slow. Next I tried a TP4060 motor on 6S and speed and handling was better, but not nearly as fast as my Insane FE30 with Neu 1515 motor. It remains a work in progress.

Doby
08-11-2013, 04:16 PM
JB Weld dried nicely....shaft won't be going anywhere now.
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Doby
08-11-2013, 04:20 PM
Installed a trusty old (2 years) 2030 KV motor and AQ 60 map controller...pretty much the standard electronics for LSH. I was going to try a new 1800 Kv motor, but seeing how light the hull was, opted for the higher KV instead.

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Doby
08-11-2013, 04:28 PM
Rudder and steering servo next...I really like the rudder, It has water pickups on both sides (a nice touch) and comes with a breakaway nylon screw as well. the leading edge required a small bit of clean-up to achieve an even, sharp edge.

This was also the first time I used ty-wraps as a mounting method....the servo mounting tray has a deep channel where the servo mounting tabs fit in...keeps it aligned perfectly..added the lower ty-wrap and it barely moved...the top ty-wrap slot and some fiberglass resin in it so it didn't side through evenly as the lower one did...but still does a decent job of holding the servo in place.

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Doby
08-11-2013, 04:46 PM
Turn Fin:

Added the small turn fin that was supplied with the rest of the hardware....it does seem rather small, but lets see what it can do before condemning it.:buttrock:

Both the turnfin mounting area as well as the strut/rudder mounting area have plywood backer plates fiberglassed in for re-enforcement.

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Doby
08-11-2013, 05:36 PM
So now that all the assembly pics are have been posted, I can tell you all that I got it out this afternoon for some trial runs.

Despite what Kenrid said a few post up, I had no problem with the hull running wet, it aired out quite nicely.

My goal is to set this up as a competitive P-Spec LSH.

First off, all tests were done as follows...

Each run was done for 3 laps around our ponds markers.
The strut was raised fairly high to start with and was not adjusted for any of the runs.
Each run used a fully charged 5800mah 4S 25C Turnigy pack.(2nd season for all packs)
Winds ranged from 0 to 10 Mph and water from glass to slight ripples.

The first run used a sharpened and balanced Octura X642: The prop hooked up right away with minimal cavitation. After 3 laps, temps on the motor=109, temps on the controller=105 and the battery was barely warm. GPS said 44.6 Mph.

The next few runs used all sorts of props from Grimm Lifters to assorted Octuras and Prathers (2 and 3 bladed) all with similar results as above (give or take a bit either way).

The last run used a reasonably sharp and balanced Octura X447: The prop hooked up with no issues. After 3 laps, temps on the motor=119, temps on the controller=112 and the battery was barely warm. GPS said 47.8 Mph. This was the best speed run of the afternoon.

Then I went home pretty happy:smile:

I'm sure that with some prop sharpening and messing with the strut angle a bit, this will get into the low 50's in spec trim. Even as it sits, its should be a competitive boat.

Note, with the rather small turn fin, I was surprised to find out that it turned on a dime and had almost no slippage in the turns. It might be a different story in some chop and race water conditions though...I will be changing it to a larger/deeper fin in the near future. But for fun running at the pond in light wind conditions, it actually did its job well. Turning left
did result in some cool spinouts though unless the turns were really wide.

The boat aired out nicely with any of the props I tried. There was no sponson walking either...nice and stable.

I did have one rather spectacular flip/tumble/end over end wipeout and when it floated back to shore, there was no damage and dry inside.

Taping the hatch was easy as well, similar to a UL-1, but with the bump in the front cowling making it only a slight bit more challenging.


So to summarize, in my humble Canadian opinion, there is another option available for a LSH hull that people should consider.

Doby
08-11-2013, 09:53 PM
Starting to look pretty...

ray schrauwen
08-11-2013, 11:43 PM
Looks sweet sounds great so far. Too bad I wasn't there to see it but, I will soon. I don't know if you would get 3 laps on a course like Michigan with the 447 but, It'll be cool if you can get 6 or 7!! Nice graphics, looks really good. :w00t:

ezhitz
08-12-2013, 12:36 AM
Looks like you might be on to something there. I to should stop by and see this bad boy running. Motor temp 119 I think I'm doing good if mine comes back in @ 135-140 with a M445. :glare:

ray schrauwen
08-12-2013, 08:29 AM
Sometimes it's the UL-1 motor. Some of the old ones may be more robust than those of recent.

Doby
08-12-2013, 10:47 AM
Sometimes it's the UL-1 motor. Some of the old ones may be more robust than those of recent.

Well, it is a 2ish year old motor.....

Doby
08-12-2013, 10:50 AM
Looks sweet sounds great so far. Too bad I wasn't there to see it but, I will soon. I don't know if you would get 3 laps on a course like Michigan with the 447 but, It'll be cool if you can get 6 or 7!! Nice graphics, looks really good. :w00t:

Thanks Ray.

I think it will be fine for the 6 plus a mil lap........next week I'll start messing with the strut to see what else I can get out of it....pretty happy right now though...fresh batteries might help next season as well.

Doby
08-12-2013, 10:53 AM
Looks like you might be on to something there. I to should stop by and see this bad boy running. Motor temp 119 I think I'm doing good if mine comes back in @ 135-140 with a M445. :glare:

Suck to be you:tongue:

We need to get together this fall for a day of racing....I'll try and figure out a date..:confused2:

ezhitz
08-12-2013, 06:33 PM
That sounds like a plan. At least I know I can use it to keep my hands warm in the cool fall weather lol

May Liu
08-14-2013, 02:43 AM
wow, is it "POPEYE"? Looks far different. Your design makes it look flying even when it is standing still. :thumbup1:
Starting to look pretty...

ron1950
08-14-2013, 10:02 AM
Just curious....how do you order one of these? Went to there web site and didn't see any ordering place. Might be my operating system lol

Monica Smith
08-14-2013, 10:15 AM
Hi John,

I have to admit, the Popeye is much pretty after you gave it dressing up. You have good handwork!

Doby
08-14-2013, 05:50 PM
Just curious....how do you order one of these? Went to there web site and didn't see any ordering place. Might be my operating system lol


Hi John,

I have to admit, the Popeye is much pretty after you gave it dressing up. You have good handwork!

Ron...meet Monica......Monica...meet Ron....

Doby
08-15-2013, 07:59 PM
Added an old UL-1 turn fin....again, the original one did a surprisingly good job, but in race conditions, I think it would not be up to the task.

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Brushless55
08-15-2013, 08:03 PM
Looks good!

Doby
08-15-2013, 08:19 PM
Thanks...with any luck, should get some vid this weekend...

Brushless55
08-15-2013, 08:42 PM
I would love to see it
I have wondered about this hull for a while..

JimClark
08-15-2013, 08:55 PM
It looks a lot like a 5 Liter Hydro (Small V-8 powered Hydro)

Doby
08-15-2013, 09:05 PM
The boat actually looks like a cross between a UL-1 and a FE 30.

Just ordered a new, properly balanced and sharpened X447 from Dasboata...mine is OK, but not great..

ron1950
08-15-2013, 10:43 PM
thats the same turm fin i use on my fe 30 and it holds full throtle in the corners easy

LiPo Power
08-17-2013, 02:35 PM
Video will be ready soon...!

Doby
08-17-2013, 03:14 PM
Robert (LiPo Power) and I were at the pond today and he took a few videos.. He even was so impressed that he sent Monica (TFL Hobbies) an PM to see about purchasing one!

The addition of the UL-1 turn fin made it turn "on rails" in the corners.

I'm liking this boat more every time I run it.

Brushless55
08-17-2013, 03:44 PM
Sounds great!

LiPo Power
08-17-2013, 05:26 PM
Here you go guys, video is up....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeiJr0USukU&feature=youtube_gdata

Doby
08-17-2013, 10:52 PM
Great job with the video as usual...thanks Robert.

ezhitz
08-17-2013, 10:58 PM
Looks good :thumbup:

Doby
08-18-2013, 12:08 AM
Thanks Jack.

Monica Smith
08-18-2013, 10:52 PM
I had watched the video of Doby's Popeye boat.
Doby has a good skill of race.
LiPo Power is a good photography.
Both did a good job!:thumbup1:

LiPo Power
08-18-2013, 11:42 PM
Thanks.....
More video to come.....
Robert








I had watched the video of Doby's Popeye boat.
Doby has a good skill of race.
LiPo Power is a good photography.
Both did a good job!:thumbup1:

LiPo Power
08-20-2013, 04:51 PM
Okay, ready for one.......

LiPo Power
08-21-2013, 08:42 PM
Very cool, boats are on the way!!!

T.S.Davis
08-21-2013, 09:20 PM
Reminds me of an over sized version of the old Andy Kunz UL1. Interesting how different the direction is on this. The Whips, Insane and even the Thomas have done everything they can to get the air out from under the tub. Effectively making them run like riggers. This will pack the air and keep it. Which might be okay with the shape of the top. Let us know how it runs.

TFL has sent me something interesting too. I'll have to make my own thread when I get it. It's a monster though. Ordered some psycho power from Steve for it. Need a place to race it though.

T.S.Davis
08-21-2013, 09:25 PM
Well heck. How did I miss the video. Looks pretty stable. I thought it might get flighty with all that air trapped under there.

T.S.Davis
08-21-2013, 09:29 PM
John, one of us needs to build a Blade on 10s too. HOR sells those in carbon fiber too.

Doby
08-21-2013, 10:17 PM
Well heck. How did I miss the video. Looks pretty stable. I thought it might get flighty with all that air trapped under there.

The vid was on a pretty calm day last weekend, the weekend before it was just me at the pond with about 15 Mph winds...there wasn't much of a difference other than it was a bit faster in the light chop.

Doby
08-21-2013, 10:18 PM
TFL is sending me a second Popeye Hull to set up with P-Power...should be interesting to see what it does...I have a 2000Kv Leopard ready for it and might try a 1521 1.5D as well.

Doby
08-21-2013, 10:20 PM
John, one of us needs to build a Blade on 10s too. HOR sells those in carbon fiber too.

Those are a neat looking boat..

T.S.Davis
08-21-2013, 10:38 PM
The Popeye looks bulky enough to take a 1527/1D. Yikes.

ray schrauwen
08-21-2013, 10:58 PM
Trying to get P-sport Hydro to come back? Should be interesting..
TFL is sending me a second Popeye Hull to set up with P-Power...should be interesting to see what it does...I have a 2000Kv Leopard ready for it and might try a 1521 1.5D as well.

Doby
08-21-2013, 11:23 PM
Hey, P-Power (Voltages) are pretty much the most popular...so why not...Terry....any chance of running P sport Hydro at the Nats?

T.S.Davis
08-22-2013, 09:25 AM
Absolutely. In fact, I'm building a P Sport for Fred out of that Reesor Whip20 I picked up from Nayman. I have SOOOO many builds to take care of this off season it's scary. Ordered a motor for 1/8 scale too.

Wait till you see this new mono hull. Absolutely beautiful to look at.

Shooter
08-22-2013, 02:42 PM
Wow. Great write-up on the new boat. Appreciate the speed reports and data. I was wondering when it would get the patented 'checkered flag' theme, and sure enough.....there it was!! Looks great!!

I am also building a P Sport. Thinking about getting the mid-sized ML Boatworks hull. The LSH version seemed to run so well last week!
I know of (4) people now in MMEU building P Sports.

Doby
08-22-2013, 03:26 PM
Thanks...looks like hopefully the P Sport will make a comeback at the Nats next year..

ray schrauwen
08-22-2013, 04:21 PM
Unfortunately since I sold mine I'm out. Been on the shelf for at least 3 years and no interest until now? Odd...

T.S.Davis
08-22-2013, 05:34 PM
Not a replacement for LSH Ray. That's still where it's at.

Just another class some of our local yocals are playing with.

ray schrauwen
08-22-2013, 05:49 PM
Awe I'm just sour grapes cause I burnt my PTSS at the cup. Should never of used an M445 without proper testing. A 4255 grimm would have been fine. I'm in the process of rebuilding it since it was toasted so bad. New motor mount, changes here and there...

What I miss are some of the N2 classes like N2 offshore. A MG24 would slip in real nice for that class... of course with hardware/drive mods.

Back to Popeye and the Sailor Man!!

Doby
08-22-2013, 07:11 PM
hey ray...want my old PT LSH for P-Hydro? the green and white one.....

PM me ......and now back to Popeye!

ray schrauwen
08-22-2013, 10:23 PM
Lets see how Popeye runs with NEU Spinach first...

I may build a second Whiplash or try a ML Boatworks...


hey ray...want my old PT LSH for P-Hydro? the green and white one.....

PM me ......and now back to Popeye!

Doby
09-08-2013, 05:05 PM
Robert (LiPo Power) and I were at our pond today...wind was blowing pretty much 15Mph with gusts to 20Mph making for one end of the course to be rather "choppy". Got some vid of the Popeye in the turns in a 1"-2" chop. It bounced around a bit like all hydro's would , but it stayed planted on the water fairly nicely given the conditions.

Vids to come shortly.....

Doby
09-08-2013, 05:13 PM
Here are the vids:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIkmGBX7Ors&feature=c4-overview&list=UUjLnwSDRax9OzK2el4P3E6g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz-nKXZZiYU&feature=c4-overview&list=UUjLnwSDRax9OzK2el4P3E6g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wok8LL9nJck&feature=c4-overview&list=UUjLnwSDRax9OzK2el4P3E6g

LiPo Power
09-08-2013, 08:15 PM
Very cool videos, thanks Robert...

ray schrauwen
09-08-2013, 08:50 PM
Aren't you the Robert that does the vids?? I'm confused ??


Very cool videos, thanks Robert...

ray schrauwen
09-08-2013, 08:53 PM
I'd say she's running just perfecto-mundo right now. Did you do your own prop or get one from Dasbota ??


Robert (LiPo Power) and I were at our pond today...wind was blowing pretty much 15Mph with gusts to 20Mph making for one end of the course to be rather "choppy". Got some vid of the Popeye in the turns in a 1"-2" chop. It bounced around a bit like all hydro's would , but it stayed planted on the water fairly nicely given the conditions.

Vids to come shortly.....

LiPo Power
09-08-2013, 09:04 PM
Dasbota, he makes the magic....
And Robert records great videos... :-)
It was me Ray.....




I'd say she's running just perfecto-mundo right now. Did you do your own prop or get one from Dasbota ??

Doby
09-08-2013, 09:16 PM
That was with the Dasbota prop. I'm liking this boat in choppy conditions:thumbup1:

785boats
09-09-2013, 03:01 AM
Looks nice & stable in the vids. Fills me with confidence.
I'd been interested in the hull for quite some time & after discussions with May from TFL I ordered one last month.
I'm glad to say that Monica sent me an email today saying that it has been posted. Unfortunately May has recently left the company.

I had ordered the 'green' version, & they had to manufacture it for me as it wasn't in production at the time. I ordered it without ESC, Motor or prop. But I also ordered one of the TFL 4082 2200kv motors to drop into it. May, Monica & TFL are very accommodating.
Can't wait for it to arrive.

Here she is ready to post.

Doby
09-09-2013, 09:26 AM
Thats the same way mine came packaged, and it made it here with no damage... I have two more coming soon.

TFL are very accommodating to special requests:smile:

ron1950
09-09-2013, 11:27 AM
hey doby what temps did u get with the 447? what was the water temp etc....I don't think id be able to get away with using the 447 here in Mississippi or south fla where I run with 85 degree water temps......

Doby
09-09-2013, 12:31 PM
Hi Ron:

Here are the answers to your questions:
http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/showthread.php?42754-TFL-Hobbies-quot-Popeye-quot-Hydro&p=520137#post520137

At that time the water was probably in the mid to upper 70's

85 degree water!!!!...what, are you going to run it in your bathtub!!:lol:

Shooter
09-09-2013, 07:59 PM
Great vids!! Thanks!!

The bottom of the hull reminds me of the vacupickle. Also an awesome boat, but I think the unvented tunnel limits the speed before it starts to kite. I wonder how this boat will handle higher speeds??

ron1950
09-09-2013, 08:15 PM
85 degree water!!!!...what, are you going to run it in your bathtub


it might be 80 degrees but its dam warm just like bath water...about the most I run is the m445 may have to try the 447 or h5 to see what speed I can get...I even went with the dinogy 4s batts

Doby
09-09-2013, 08:19 PM
Great vids!! Thanks!!

The bottom of the hull reminds me of the vacupickle. Also an awesome boat, but I think the unvented tunnel limits the speed before it starts to kite. I wonder how this boat will handle higher speeds??

Well, hope to have my second hull here in a few weeks...I'll be trying a 2000 KV Leopard, a Neu 1521 1.5D, and I ordered a HK 1970Kv 600 size outrunner...they will be 4S2P setups.

ray schrauwen
09-09-2013, 09:12 PM
I could have lent you a 1970 kv motor but, they are inexpensive. I tried one in my DF33 mono and it runs well with an M445 and M545. Still need to run it more.

Great motors and I might try on of these in a Whip 40 on 6S MOTOR (http://hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__36255__Turnigy_HeliDrive_SK3_Competition_Series_ 4956_1250kv_550_600_50_size_heli_.html)

Doby
09-09-2013, 09:32 PM
I should have figured that you would have one:tongue:

tlandauer
09-09-2013, 09:43 PM
Thats the same way mine came packaged, and it made it here with no damage... I have two more coming soon.

TFL are very accommodating to special requests:smile:
Doby, mind if I ask you where you got yours? from Hor Racing? The only place I know of is Kintec, but I like the green ones better. I did a search for TFL and nothing came up that I can order from :noidea:

Brushless55
09-09-2013, 09:49 PM
I could have lent you a 1970 kv motor but, they are inexpensive. I tried one in my DF33 mono and it runs well with an M445 and M545. Still need to run it more.

Great motors and I might try on of these in a Whip 40 on 6S MOTOR (http://hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__36255__Turnigy_HeliDrive_SK3_Competition_Series_ 4956_1250kv_550_600_50_size_heli_.html)

Looking forward to that! :biggrin:

LiPo Power
09-09-2013, 09:50 PM
Contact Monica, post # 40




Doby, mind if I ask you where you got yours? from Hor Racing? The only place I know of is Kintec, but I like the green ones better. I did a search for TFL and nothing came up that I can order from :noidea:

Doby
09-09-2013, 09:52 PM
Doby, mind if I ask you where you got yours? from Hor Racing? The only place I know of is Kintec, but I like the green ones better. I did a search for TFL and nothing came up that I can order from :noidea:

I got mine directly from TFL.
Send Monica an E-Mail directly at TFL...

kwl@tflhobby.com

Doby
09-09-2013, 09:52 PM
Robert, apparently our two will be sent out today!

LiPo Power
09-09-2013, 09:54 PM
Thanks for the update S.O.B.... :rofl:




Robert, apparently our two will be sent out today!

tlandauer
09-09-2013, 10:59 PM
Contact Monica, post # 40


I got mine directly from TFL.
Send Monica an E-Mail directly at TFL...

kwl@tflhobby.com


Thanks, guys!:rockon2:

ray schrauwen
09-10-2013, 03:11 PM
You think I'm wasting my time? I was planning to have the motor in open air for better cooling...


Looking forward to that! :biggrin:

Brushless55
09-10-2013, 03:19 PM
You think I'm wasting my time? I was planning to have the motor in open air for better cooling...

curious to see how well it works..
might just be a great motor for that Whip! :biggrin:
I have been wanting to try the same thing for a PSport Hydro :thumbup1:

Doby
09-10-2013, 04:17 PM
curious to see how well it works..
might just be a great motor for that Whip! :biggrin:
I have been wanting to try the same thing for a PSport Hydro :thumbup1:


Should have results in a few weeks...before the snow flys!

ray schrauwen
09-10-2013, 07:27 PM
With 1970kv you can swing a heck of a prop with it in a hydro. Any idea on hull weight empty?

LALIZZLE
09-10-2013, 09:23 PM
I got mine directly from TFL.
Send Monica an E-Mail directly at TFL...

kwl@tflhobby.com

I also ordered a custom one from Monica mine was shipped out friday cant wait :flashfire::thumbup:

Tm27
09-11-2013, 01:12 AM
Any way to post a video of one of these running? Really nice looking boat,

LALIZZLE
09-11-2013, 02:17 AM
Any way to post a video of one of these running? Really nice looking boat,

Go back a page and check post #78:unsure:

Doby
09-11-2013, 09:21 AM
Any way to post a video of one of these running? Really nice looking boat,

And Post #52.

785boats
09-17-2013, 02:08 AM
Well I'm glad to say that the green Popeye arrived today. Complete with the separately packaged 4082 2200kv motor & cooler.
Beautiful clear coat finish over all the paint & graphics.
Here's a surprise. I had been discussing with May, before she left, that if TFL put welded shafts in their boats instead of the two piece ones (and advertised the fact) they might increase their sales. She said that her 'Boss' spoke to the design department to see what could be done.
Guess what! mine has a welded 3/16" flex & strut.

Don't know if I'll have time to get it ready for this weekend, but I'll give it a go.

tlandauer
09-17-2013, 02:14 AM
Thanks for the update!:thumbup1:

Monica Smith
09-17-2013, 02:23 AM
Well I'm glad to say that the green Popeye arrived today. Complete with the separately packaged 4082 2200kv motor & cooler.
Beautiful clear coat finish over all the paint & graphics.
Here's a surprise. I had been discussing with May, before she left, that if TFL put welded shafts in their boats instead of the two piece ones (and advertised the fact) they might increase their sales. She said that her 'Boss' spoke to the design department to see what could be done.
Guess what! mine has a welded 3/16" flex & strut.

Don't know if I'll have time to get it ready for this weekend, but I'll give it a go.

Hi dear Paul, I am glad that you receipt your Popeye and you like it as that you supposed.

Monica Smith
09-17-2013, 02:25 AM
Well I'm glad to say that the green Popeye arrived today. Complete with the separately packaged 4082 2200kv motor & cooler.
Beautiful clear coat finish over all the paint & graphics.
Here's a surprise. I had been discussing with May, before she left, that if TFL put welded shafts in their boats instead of the two piece ones (and advertised the fact) they might increase their sales. She said that her 'Boss' spoke to the design department to see what could be done.
Guess what! mine has a welded 3/16" flex & strut.

Don't know if I'll have time to get it ready for this weekend, but I'll give it a go.

I am waiting for your setting pictures posting here or your own's thread!

LALIZZLE
09-17-2013, 10:52 AM
Got mine today looks good packaged nicely although Im gonna ask Monica if i can get some welded shafts sent to me in my next order.
105323

785boats
09-17-2013, 02:35 PM
Hi Monica.
I had just Emailed you to thank you & then noticed here on OSE that you already saw my post.
Yes I will do a mini build thread & post some video of the test runs. Hopefully this weekend if work commitments allow.

ron1950
09-17-2013, 04:30 PM
is your boat all green or does it have some vinal stickers etc like the green and silver one in there web site?

LALIZZLE
09-17-2013, 04:45 PM
is your boat all green or does it have some vinal stickers etc like the green and silver one in there web site?

Hey Ron,

It's all green with no decals.

Doby
09-17-2013, 05:19 PM
Needs some black and white checkers......

ron1950
09-17-2013, 06:31 PM
doby you break 50mph with yours yet?

LALIZZLE
09-17-2013, 06:47 PM
Needs some black and white checkers......

Or some stickers from mono Jeff to dress it up..

ron1950
09-17-2013, 06:55 PM
how about just less green lol just kidding looks good

Doby
09-17-2013, 08:56 PM
doby you break 50mph with yours yet?

Not yet.working on it...My second Popeye is apparently somewhere in Canada "in transit".......got 4 different "P" Motors to try!

ron1950
09-17-2013, 10:12 PM
I would have got one but I have a fortune invested in a fe-30 that is right at 50 now...still not as fast as a whip but its all I got so far for spec hydro...
I want the new tunnel...slap a os lower and 2030 and a dinogy 4s and u should have a nice tunnel....

btw just put a neu 1515 2200kv motor in it and run hard

105363

LiPo Power
09-21-2013, 12:46 PM
I must say that I am very pleased with this boat.
Fiberglass, very solid and strong boat.
Plenty of room inside. Well installed battery tray and servo tray.
Servo tray has fit cuts just to drop the standard servo in and tie with straps.
Hardware is very impressive, nicely done and strong...
Rudder has water pick up holes on both sides, like that a lot.
Cooling line has nice aluminum passage installed so the cooling line fits perfectly without being squeezed.
Very well done motor mount and well installed motor mount trays.
Canopy is strong and solid. Perfect fit, easy to put the tape on top, nice and square.
Paint is first class with very well done coating.
I was replacing the turn fin to UL-1 because I share Dobys opinion on the fact that in racing condition
I would like to have that extra grip, but it works with smaller stock fin just well.
Flex cable has square end on the prop shaft end. Prop shaft stays inside of the prop strut so it is 2 piece set up
and I love it. That way there is no force on the motor, motor bearings and motor mount, wicked idea.
The only disadvantage of it is lubricating that requires the strut to be removed to lubricate.
On the site note, prop strut is very easy to remove and reinstall.
IMO, this boat is money well spent. It has not seen the water yet but if the weather is ok tomorrow will see
how it performs being powered by UL-1 motor and ESC.
Stock prop is fairly small so I am sure it is safe for the first time testing....
The prop is TFL 438.
Will post findings.....
Cheers
Robert

LiPo Power
09-21-2013, 12:48 PM
...more...

LiPo Power
09-21-2013, 12:49 PM
1111

ron1950
09-21-2013, 01:07 PM
it does look like they have it pretty well together on that boat

LiPo Power
09-21-2013, 01:10 PM
100%....


it does look like they have it pretty well together on that boat

ray schrauwen
09-21-2013, 07:23 PM
Looks nice. You could also just forget the tail ring and undo the motor mount bolts instead of going from the strut to lubricate... just sayin' That way once you have your strut where you want it you don't have to reset it it every time.

LiPo Power
09-21-2013, 07:36 PM
Roger!!!

Monica Smith
09-21-2013, 08:51 PM
Wow, Robert, you got your Popeye!Great! I am glad that you like it.

Shooter
09-21-2013, 10:19 PM
Been thinking about running a setup like this for years. Thrust on the strut rather than on the flex/motor. Let us know how this is working. Always thought it would be more efficient since the flex isn't forced to the sidewall by the thrust and the motor bearings might not generate as much heat either?!

Doby
09-21-2013, 10:35 PM
Been thinking about running a setup like this for years. Thrust on the strut rather than on the flex/motor. Let us know how this is working. Always thought it would be more efficient since the flex isn't forced to the sidewall by the thrust and the motor bearings might not generate as much heat either?!

I've got about 10 runs on mine so far and I'm starting to be a believer.

Monica Smith
09-22-2013, 03:15 AM
Got mine today looks good packaged nicely although Im gonna ask Monica if i can get some welded shafts sent to me in my next order.
105323

Hi Larry,
You got your custom green Popeye! Great.Seems everything is fine? Sorry just remember I should feedback you this message. Thank you for posting the post.

LiPo Power
09-22-2013, 08:16 PM
Here is some video of them running:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50kYxkaJS3I

Monica Smith
09-22-2013, 11:45 PM
Here is some video of them running:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50kYxkaJS3I

Thank you, LiPo Power.

T.S.Davis
09-23-2013, 09:14 AM
I'm going to have put a setup in one of these too. I think I have just the motor for it.

Doby
09-23-2013, 10:18 AM
LiPo Powers (Robert) P-spec Popeye on its first day:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2rxtFYyXBI&feature=share&list=UUjLnwSDRax9OzK2el4P3E6g

Doby
09-23-2013, 10:22 AM
And another...a bit unstable (the photographer...not the boat)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0fV46xg78g&feature=share&list=UUjLnwSDRax9OzK2el4P3E6g

Doby
09-23-2013, 10:25 AM
And another..............

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RblQXoQWxHo&feature=share&list=UUjLnwSDRax9OzK2el4P3E6g

ray schrauwen
09-23-2013, 05:04 PM
Good choice of a Yamaha decal for the colors it came with

Here is a 1990 Yammy RZ350. The red white and blue one was what threw me and made me a a paraplegic...




1111

Livewire121
09-23-2013, 08:41 PM
Good choice of a Yamaha decal for the colors it came with

Here is a 1990 Yammy RZ350. The red white and blue one was what threw me and made me a a paraplegic...


I rode a RZ500 for a couple seasons, that was one mean machine!

785boats
09-28-2013, 04:57 PM
Glad to say that I've hit the water with my Popeye too.
Unfortunately I can't upload any more photos or videos to the computer. My kids have stuffed something up with some programming.
Runs great with the TFL 4082 2200kv motor that I ordered with it, & an M545 prop.

ray schrauwen
09-28-2013, 06:20 PM
At the pond today I watched John & Rob run their hydros (Doby & Lipo Power) and I must say I'm pretty impressed. Seems to defy some logic but, who cares if they run really nice!

Nice work TFL Hobbies.

You will find that setup to be quite happy in your hydro 785 boats.

T.S.Davis
09-28-2013, 10:26 PM
I think I'm going to rob the motor out of my Wildthing and throw it at one of these. See what happens.

Brushless55
09-29-2013, 12:44 AM
Are you guys able to get low 50's out of this in race trim?

RayR
09-29-2013, 10:34 AM
Different paint scheme

LiPo Power
09-29-2013, 02:47 PM
We never had a chance to GPS them yet but will next time at the pond.
Both of ours are on UL-1 ESC and motors on 4S with dasboata M445 props.
It appears this set up is dead on pick for fair speed, very low temps, very stable and controllable run.
Will update speeds when we have them....






Are you guys able to get low 50's out of this in race trim?

ray schrauwen
09-29-2013, 04:55 PM
Just to add Lipo Power is using an OLD UL-1 motor. I dare you to try that prop in that hull on the 1/6th mile course with a UL-1 motor off the shelf from todays stock.


We never had a chance to GPS them yet but will next time at the pond.
Both of ours are on UL-1 ESC and motors on 4S with dasboata M445 props.
It appears this set up is dead on pick for fair speed, very low temps, very stable and controllable run.
Will update speeds when we have them....

ron1950
09-29-2013, 05:16 PM
Different paint scheme

ray where do u find the real boat pics lol..btw I pm ed ya...ron

Doby
09-29-2013, 06:00 PM
Are you guys able to get low 50's out of this in race trim?

I think in and earlier post, I said I'm getting in the very high 40's (around 48ish) if I remember correctly...

Need a few different props to try...but winters coming so it might be next season till I break the 50's.

Doby
09-29-2013, 06:14 PM
Both Robert and I ran our Popeyes at a semi-organized event this weekend....ran against another club member with a UL-1.

Speeds were on par but the UL-1 couldn't handle the race/wind chop and flipped. The Popeyes were quite happy in the race slop.

To be fair though, the UL-1 is a smaller boat.

ron1950
09-29-2013, 06:52 PM
I know u guys don't run were I do (south fla) but there are some wooden whips down there that abslutly smoked my fe 30 and I am running upper 40's..they must be running 53 or 54 at least as I never took my finger off the throttle at all and came in third by a ways back,.

ron1950
09-29-2013, 11:10 PM
what holds the prop on? never had one like that without prop nut

Doby
09-29-2013, 11:16 PM
There is a bullet nut with a set screw....I have been using a piece of silicone tubing.....

ron1950
09-29-2013, 11:24 PM
i just ordered a .187 flex for this boat prob will trash that set screw system

kacordy
10-01-2013, 10:10 PM
Is anyone running one of these on the Left Coast yet? California? What do they cost?


Thanks, Allen

LALIZZLE
10-01-2013, 11:22 PM
Is anyone running one of these on the Left Coast yet? California? What do they cost?


Thanks, Allen

I have one but I'm in AZ contact Monica here on the form she will be glad to help with your purchase.

ron1950
10-02-2013, 03:26 PM
don't be in a hurry to hear from her as china has a week long holiday till about oct 10 or so

LiPo Power
10-02-2013, 04:19 PM
Could you please post link to the one you have ordered?


i just ordered a .187 flex for this boat prob will trash that set screw system

ron1950
10-02-2013, 04:58 PM
well I ordered this in 20 in size will cut to fit....may have to make a new stuffing tube about a inch longer haven't got the boat yet to look it over....http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/proddetail.php?prod=ose-1190

ray schrauwen
10-04-2013, 12:27 AM
What colour is the botom?
Are you happy with the finish and were you able to run it yet?



Looks nice & stable in the vids. Fills me with confidence.
I'd been interested in the hull for quite some time & after discussions with May from TFL I ordered one last month.
I'm glad to say that Monica sent me an email today saying that it has been posted. Unfortunately May has recently left the company.

I had ordered the 'green' version, & they had to manufacture it for me as it wasn't in production at the time. I ordered it without ESC, Motor or prop. But I also ordered one of the TFL 4082 2200kv motors to drop into it. May, Monica & TFL are very accommodating.
Can't wait for it to arrive.

Here she is ready to post.

tlandauer
10-04-2013, 01:20 AM
Ray, I am leaning towards the green one, but the blue/yellow is nice too. I like the two-tone scheme on the dome compared to the mono silver tone on the green one.
Think I will pull the trigger in the next day or two. Too good to resist! I wonder if the stickers are covered with clear coat or not. Monica asked me if I want just the plain green or with stickers, that's why I think they are not under clear. I will have to ask her again. She also asked me about the shaft, I don't quite understand what she meant by that...does it mean that we have a choice to have a one-piece shaft vs. the two piece square cable type? :noidea:
I will post back when I get more answers from her.

tlandauer
10-04-2013, 02:34 AM
I have a question for you guys, should I get the "standard" two-piece shaft or the one-piece "welded" shaft ( "welded" as per TFL terminology) that is commonly seen here?
I have a choice as it turns out.
Thanks for the advice!

Monica Smith
10-04-2013, 03:06 AM
106168
What colour is the botom?
Are you happy with the finish and were you able to run it yet?

Hi Ray, here is the bottom as same as Paul's Green/ Silver Popeye.

785boats
10-04-2013, 09:26 AM
Ray.
Yep. Green as Monica has shown.
We ran it the last couple of weekends & am very impressed. Even with a home made turn fin. Runs well & turns extremely well. Ran it in some really heavy wind & chop & she was really stable.

tlandauer.
If you have the choice, get the welded 3/16" shaft. That's how mine came & it is so much better than the two piece set up. I had been discussing the merits of the welded shaft with May from TFL before I ordered mine. They are quick to put suggestions into action.

Monica.
I see in your avatar that the Arrow is in production. Any info on the production of the 'Fireball' yet. I still need one.

ray schrauwen
10-04-2013, 09:27 AM
Thank you Monica, I received your link to better pictures. I'm still deciding on what decals I want under the clear.

The silver top one looks like it's modeled after the "Trainer" aka lil' Miss "Block and Head" I'm just not sure if I want the decal Popeye right on the boat or separate after I find more pictures of the real boat.

Doby
10-04-2013, 09:36 AM
Well, well Ray...are we going to have a "threesome" of Popeyes to run next year????

ray schrauwen
10-04-2013, 11:07 AM
It's a toss up to build my 36" Whip and cut off 2-1/4" or just buy this hull... Still thinking and I'm trying to unload some other stuff as you know first. Maybe....

T.S.Davis
10-04-2013, 11:23 AM
I'm struggling with this too Ray. I have SOOOOOOOO many boats to get ready over the winter it's almost too much already.

tlandauer
10-07-2013, 12:05 AM
Thank you Monica, I received your link to better pictures. I'm still deciding on what decals I want under the clear.

The silver top one looks like it's modeled after the "Trainer" aka lil' Miss "Block and Head" I'm just not sure if I want the decal Popeye right on the boat or separate after I find more pictures of the real boat.
I searched too and it seems that is the only one on the web. Learned a lot about these 2.5 litre stock hydro. Interesting different classes among these races .:buttrock:
I just ordered mine thru Monica with a one piece .187 shaft. :banana:
I think I have got to thin out my fleet! :spy::frusty:

ron1950
10-07-2013, 12:46 AM
darn I didn't relize I could have ordered with one piece shaft....wish the decals were on top of the clear coat id rip off the popeye decal first thing
btw is there really a popeye boat?

Monica Smith
10-07-2013, 01:27 AM
Ray.
Yep. Green as Monica has shown.
We ran it the last couple of weekends & am very impressed. Even with a home made turn fin. Runs well & turns extremely well. Ran it in some really heavy wind & chop & she was really stable.

tlandauer.
If you have the choice, get the welded 3/16" shaft. That's how mine came & it is so much better than the two piece set up. I had been discussing the merits of the welded shaft with May from TFL before I ordered mine. They are quick to put suggestions into action.

Monica.
I see in your avatar that the Arrow is in production. Any info on the production of the 'Fireball' yet. I still need one.

Hi Paul,
Sorry for late answer. About the "Fireball" of our Outrigger, I think it would be the project for next year. Arrow is the Version I, the Mantis and the Fireball would be the Version II? That is our desinger's plan! If I have any of the news about that, I will update to you as soon as I can.

tlandauer
10-07-2013, 01:28 AM
darn I didn't relize I could have ordered with one piece shaft....wish the decals were on top of the clear coat id rip off the popeye decal first thing
btw is there really a popeye boat?
I accidentally deleted my post, I looked at a ton of pictures and I couldn't find any body racing under the moniker "Popeye". I fell asleep on the keyboard!:roflol:
I couldn't decided if I should have the sticker applied and under claer coat.What do you think of them? I need to e mail Monica ASAP if i want them off, right now I left them as they are, I think the green sponson needs some decal. Ray's picture is a two-tone sponson, the bottom is silver as well. Mono green needs a bit contrasts---IMO.

785boats
10-07-2013, 11:45 PM
Thanks Monica.

ron1950
Couldn't find a GP team, but there is an Offshore Popeyes racing team.
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=Popeyes+GP+Hydro+team&es_sm=93&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=-3pTUu_qLIKVrAfbkYHgCg&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1384&bih=709&dpr=1#es_sm=93&q=Popeyes+Offshore+racing+team&tbm=isch&imgdii=_

I love the Popeye decals. Especially on the green one.
Spinach Power rocks.:rockon2: Ha! Ha!

LiPo Power
10-09-2013, 04:58 PM
That would be cool.....






Well, well Ray...are we going to have a "threesome" of Popeyes to run next year????

ron1950
10-10-2013, 12:17 PM
for all you guys who recived your boats already.....in speedpost tracking what does this mean ...Received at Destination Transit Centre

Doby
10-10-2013, 01:15 PM
It means that your boat has been lost and will never be seen again!

Pretty sure it means its at a local postal hub somewhere...I had that with my two shipments as well.

ron1950
10-10-2013, 01:44 PM
how long after that did u recive it at your door?

Doby
10-10-2013, 01:48 PM
About 6 months.....usually within 2 days.

ray schrauwen
10-10-2013, 03:11 PM
You are a fungi !


About 6 months.....usually within 2 days.

ray schrauwen
10-10-2013, 03:12 PM
John did you run 4S2P in your P-Sport version?

Doby
10-10-2013, 03:42 PM
See other thread......still running a single 4s pack.

ron1950
10-25-2013, 08:17 PM
ran the popeye today with the new1515 2200kv motor m545 and blew it over twice....cg is too far back with a dinogy 5000 battery second run I raised the strut a 1/16 or so...and it ran faster but nose high ...next time out I will put battery sideways up front and put cg a inch farther forward....and see what that does.....I like it so far just needs to be trimed up some

LiPo Power
10-25-2013, 08:26 PM
..also, please do not forget to take the video camera with you next time... :bowdown:

Doby
10-25-2013, 08:38 PM
Hey Ron...glad you got it on the water....could I ask you to post your comments in the P-Sport thread......just trying to keep the two threads unique to themselves..

LiPo Power
12-01-2013, 09:30 PM
Guys, what is the size stock flex and shaft on Popeye that you got from TFL?

ron1950
12-01-2013, 09:47 PM
.187 or 3/16

Doby
12-01-2013, 10:46 PM
yup

sailr
12-04-2013, 11:02 AM
Huh? Air Traps?


Be prepared to cut those deep air traps off by capping them off now.

ray schrauwen
12-04-2013, 11:21 AM
The after plane has an overhang to the bottom hull surface. Much like a Andy Brown Atlas Van Lines kit. These overhangs help trap air under the hull requiring less power to get on plane, stay on plane but, MIGHT limit the speed of the hull ona long 1/6th mile course with other boats to deal with.... MIGHT! Not sure. I don't own one myself so I can't say for sure how this hull will do in race chop against full power 4S2P Whips etc. on full course. TBD.

sailr
12-04-2013, 01:03 PM
Oh, I see. Thanks for the explanation!!


The after plane has an overhang to the bottom hull surface. Much like a Andy Brown Atlas Van Lines kit. These overhangs help trap air under the hull requiring less power to get on plane, stay on plane but, MIGHT limit the speed of the hull ona long 1/6th mile course with other boats to deal with.... MIGHT! Not sure. I don't own one myself so I can't say for sure how this hull will do in race chop against full power 4S2P Whips etc. on full course. TBD.

Shooter
12-04-2013, 03:49 PM
Seems the faster these boats go, the less air we need trapped to hold them up. I've seen this method used with success on full size hydros to bleed air:

T.S.Davis
12-04-2013, 09:02 PM
Pete, didn't we just have this conversation on the phone?

I don't have one in my hands either. However.......isn't it a little bigger than we usually see for P Sport? A Whip is a tiny little thing compared to this. My hunch is that with the size and weight of the boat it will work with the traps that are on there. We wont know for sure until we see one in traffic. Honestly, a beastly Neu motor with 4s10000mah and this boat will be a big heavy and fast. The best P sport I ever ran was over 10 pounds RTR.

Another hunch is that it's too big for P limited. The Stealth, FE30 and Whips are so light on there feet and so nimble in that class I'm not sure how a big.....ish boat will be able to match the speed. Although, with those traps who knows.

Tom has 6 of these coming to MI so hopefully we'll get to see them in traffic this summer.

Doby
12-04-2013, 09:18 PM
And we all know that the fastest boat always wins the race:frusty::olleyes:

T.S.Davis
12-05-2013, 07:24 AM
Amen. A relatively fast tank might be the perfect combo for the nats.

Shooter
12-05-2013, 09:57 AM
Funny how that works. My LSH was THE lightest boat at the beginning of last season. By the end of the season, I was THE heaviest and running much better!!

ron1950
12-05-2013, 10:27 AM
beleave me this boat has a lot of potential and seems pretty fast so far with a neu1515 2200 motor.....when I change the turn fin brace it will even stay wet side down.....no prob,wm with the air etc. some small tweeking and it hulls the mail....if I can only find a prop I like...tried the m545 and motor came back barley noticabley warm....next ti,me out a m645 then I think a abc1816...

T.S.Davis
12-05-2013, 10:37 AM
What about a plane ole' M447?

ray schrauwen
12-05-2013, 11:03 AM
Doby may have tried that prop already but, with a Leo not a Neu.

ron1950
12-05-2013, 12:33 PM
m447 and 1816 will be the last two props to try...then ill give up lol....actually they all will be good I am sure

Doby
12-05-2013, 01:32 PM
The vids of mine are all with the 447/3...around the 54mph mark so far and the batts/motor/controller are all bored.

ron1950
12-05-2013, 02:14 PM
wonder what a 2 blade 447 would do for it?

Doby
12-05-2013, 02:45 PM
It had some propwalk with the 2 blade....none with the 3 blade.

T.S.Davis
12-05-2013, 07:15 PM
54 is slow for P sport. That's a LSH speed. 646/3? IDK.

Still have to finish though so who knows.

Wonder of anyone is taking one to the Winter Warm Ups in Pheonix. Pack your bags John. You need the practice anyway if we're going to go after the cup.

ron1950
12-05-2013, 07:29 PM
have to agree. p sport boats are doing 60 at least.....my fe30 p spec is slow at 49 or so.....the popeye has the speed with some more work though

Doby
12-05-2013, 07:30 PM
It will have more speed eventually.....just no really able to test anything for the next little while.

I remember at the Mich Cup 2 years ago, I finished 3rd in LSH with the slowest boat in the field of around 12 boats....and not finishing one heat because a marker got in my way....and still finished 3rd overall after the 2 days!!!

Mike B should remember that...he was in the retrieval boat:Sinking::sinking-guy:

ron1950
12-05-2013, 07:42 PM
yup the fastest boat doesent allways win that's for sure and I agree with some testing we can make these boats competive..how the ice john? I am in east texas and its not going to be over 30 all day sat and freezing rain till then lol u can have your artic weather back

T.S.Davis
12-05-2013, 07:45 PM
Let's hijack Johns thread. 61 hear today.

Doby
12-05-2013, 07:47 PM
It was 60 here...but cooling off tomorrow again....everything's still frozen.

Doby
12-05-2013, 07:48 PM
I heard you folks in Texass (!!) were getting hit with some nasty weather..good spot for it:banana:

flraptor07
12-05-2013, 08:02 PM
Well I'm gonna do it again,........... It was 81 and sunny here today!:tt2::moon:

Doby
12-05-2013, 08:03 PM
:olleyes::olleyes::olleyes:

oscarel
12-05-2013, 08:23 PM
I heard you folks in Texass (!!) were getting hit with some nasty weather..good spot for it:banana:

It was 80 here yesterday in Dallas, now listening to the ice hit the windows. It's been sleeting since 2:30 this afternoon and it's currently 29.

Doby
12-05-2013, 08:36 PM
HA!!!

T.S.Davis
12-05-2013, 08:58 PM
It was 60 here...but cooling off tomorrow again....everything's still frozen.

There's soft water in Arizona. :tt2:

Doby
12-05-2013, 09:05 PM
Not in Michigan....

Shooter
12-05-2013, 09:10 PM
have to agree. p sport boats are doing 60 at least.....my fe30 p spec is slow at 49 or so.....the popeye has the speed with some more work though

I agree as well. I had the same set-up in my PT (1515-1Y and (2) 4S 5000's w/M545.....was hitting 60mph.

I don't know why they even employ meteorologists in our area. From Nov to April, it's fairly predictable..... It's going to be $hi**y.

:sad:

tlandauer
12-05-2013, 10:14 PM
I dig this weather channel, better than my local TV weatherman!:banana::laugh:

Wetter
12-06-2013, 02:28 AM
i noticed the Popeye hull can be purchased separately,
where can i find the placement of hardware installation location and CG?
thanx.

tlandauer
12-06-2013, 03:23 AM
I will see if I can PM you with some photos, I don't want to clutter this thread.

Nope, they don't load properly, please see new thread in the : Fast Electric ... (Top of Forum)

electric
12-13-2013, 09:52 AM
Hey all, just caught wind of this thread and read through it. So, for p-sport hydro it would need around 65mph to be in the game and maybe 54mph for p-limited. AND of course stay stuck to the water and handle well. Anyone seeing that yet? It would be nice to have another competitive hydro to add some variety to the race. I really like the look of the boat.

Doby
12-13-2013, 12:39 PM
No..you need to finish races to be in the game.

bracka69
01-24-2014, 08:14 PM
Looks like a nice stable hull. Quick question. Has any tried the Carbon Fiber hull Popeye as yet? Was thinking of getting one but would like some feedback on it if possible.

SlickZERO
11-30-2018, 08:52 AM
I just bought the white/red bare hull. I have been reading through the thread and wondering if anyone still running them? Any updates on set up?

T.S.Davis
11-30-2018, 09:01 AM
At 65 you'll be lapped in P sport.

SlickZERO
11-30-2018, 10:16 AM
I am trying to decide 36 mm or 40 mm motor. I am shooting for mid 50s to 60 mph. Thinking of keeping it light? We don't race NAMBA. A friend lives on a lake with a private beach. Our course is about 2/3 NAMBA size.

dethow
11-30-2018, 10:37 AM
I am trying to decide 36 mm or 40 mm motor. I am shooting for mid 50s to 60 mph. Thinking of keeping it light? We don't race NAMBA. A friend lives on a lake with a private beach. Our course is about 2/3 NAMBA size.

Good goal speed with that boat. I had one and found it gets a little loose over 60mph. Not that it can't be done... it'll just stay upright better at under 60.
You can obtain those goals with a 36mm motor. Just need to stay above 60mm length.

This would be a good motor to obtain your goals. It is a standard 68mm motor that's been custom reduced to 61.5mm and would make a nice fit in the small space leaving a little additional room for the esc and batteries verses a 68mm to 74mm long motor. Pair this with a 47mm prop and you'd be in that speed range.
https://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/showthread.php?60529-Neu-1415-2D-Motor-(2050kv)-%96-Modified-to-62mm

SlickZERO
11-30-2018, 10:53 AM
Thanks for the information! I will keep the motor in mind.

Brushless55
11-30-2018, 02:04 PM
Can't go wrong with a Leo 4082 on 4s
Cheap fun.

SlickZERO
01-06-2019, 08:45 AM
I think I read somewhere to keep the weight forward. I am working from and empty hull. I was thinking front to back, battery, motor, esc, servo.
Any advise?

SlickZERO
03-08-2019, 03:14 PM
A couple people said balance 1 1/2" behind the sponson. I balanced there it handles great. With a Y536 prop it loafed along at 53 mph. Like on rails even with chop and small wakes from other boats. Tried a M445 and it ran 62 mph. I ran full throttle about 6 laps and fried the motor. Handling was still rock solid. Acts like it wants to go faster. Going to toss the HK 3674-1650 and drop in a TP 3650-1550.