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Alfa Spirit
01-25-2013, 04:29 AM
Hi,

Do you know this ESC, is it a good value? Thanks


http://www.hobbywing.com/uploadfile/Multi-Angle/Boat/SK/SK-130A-HV-1.jpg

BILL OXIDEAN
01-25-2013, 06:38 AM
:popcorn2:

Alfa Spirit
01-26-2013, 05:20 AM
What do you mean?

tlandauer
01-26-2013, 06:18 AM
I would love to know too, it's been on my mind to ask. I just wish the "continuous amp" is rated higher, say 180A at the very least. I like Seaking 120a and 180a Low V ESC, for the price you can't beat them.
I am putting back to service a PT 45 ( Neu 2215 1y) and was looking for a ESC that can handle 6s with ease, this was tempting ( price wise) but 130a is way too low, got instead a CC Hydra Ice 240 which can handle up to 8s.
This is just my humble opinion, if I am off base, by all means correct me. Thanks.
...wish there is more review/discussion on this particular ESC.

Flyguy55
01-26-2013, 08:03 AM
I have had very good experience with the Seaking 130A HV . We ran them in our 1/8th scales at the FE nats. no problems . I have one in an Insane Gas mono with a NUE 2215 1.5 Y on 10 cells . Ive only raced it once , but test run it several times . Like the Sea king 180 A it needs to stay dry . Gary Rose ran one in his 43" DF Sniper , Big Leopard on 8 cells . It quit when it got wet , but worked again when it dried out.
I run the Insane open with the ESC , RX , and Rudder servo in a radio box ala nitro and gas boats .
Dick Roberts

Alfa Spirit
01-26-2013, 12:13 PM
Ok, for you this is a good ESC. I want to use them in a 50" mono twin setup with 2x10S, I' ve got Seaking 120A and 180A and I like them.
This is for this 50'' deep vee Fountain P1 hull

tlandauer
01-26-2013, 12:32 PM
Ok, for you this is a good ESC. I want to use them in a 50" mono twin setup with 2x10S, I' ve got Seaking 120A and 180A and I like them.
This is for this 50'' deep vee Fountain P1 hull
I understand, I was merely relaying my story in the hope that someone would give us some info that you were looking.
@Flyguy55: thank you very much, :thumbup1: you have given me just the info I wanted, next time I will consider that, I got the CC because it was a deal I can't refuse and I wanted one for a long time, now armed with your info I have more choices in the future.

lenny
01-26-2013, 01:29 PM
My buddy tunnelvision is using a 130a hv in his MG on 6s and some other boats and loves them so far,
Just need to water proof them like most esc.

Flyguy55
01-26-2013, 05:13 PM
I also hope Seaking builds a 180 or 200 plus . My hull is 43" long . It was as fast down the straights as the fastest gas monos . This was in Open Oval at a NAMBA Dist 19 race . I had to prop down to control heat .Ive had several other brands fail , including a CC 180 HV on 6S that ran fine in a Gas Jersey Skiff on a Seaking 180 LV .

Megabiker98
02-04-2013, 04:36 PM
What size bullet would u put on something like this or a 180 amp seaking? Paired with a tacon 4074 what size bullets would u recommend??

tlandauer
02-04-2013, 04:52 PM
I use 5.5 mm, so far works great.

lenny
02-04-2013, 04:59 PM
:iagree:

5.5 Are the standard for very good FE setups.

Alfa Spirit
02-04-2013, 05:32 PM
+1

5,5mm everywhere: charger, batteries, esc, etc....

Megabiker98
02-04-2013, 06:56 PM
So u wouldn't recommend leaving 4 mm bullets even if they come with it?

lenny
02-04-2013, 07:55 PM
No, :nono:

Use 5.5MM on all Chargers,Cells, Esc's, Motor's, and they will stay happy,
On mini boats you can run deans on the cells and 3.5MM on motor & esc.

The 4MM have MORE resistance than 3.5MM and the 4MM are the worst plugs to use,
In less you like this.:flashfire:

Megabiker98
02-04-2013, 08:19 PM
Alright I will go with 5.5 mm gold played connectors! But I wanna go 5.5 on everything but right now going with deans battery plugs is the easiest most versatile plug I can go with at the moment :/

lenny
02-04-2013, 08:36 PM
So what boat is this for ?

And what S cell and C rating are going to run ?

And on what setup ?

Megabiker98
02-04-2013, 09:10 PM
Mystic I'm assuming by s cell this the correct answer, I am gonna run 2 2s 40c gens ace 5000 mah in series, Setup: tacon 4074 2150 kv, seaking 180 and at the moment an x645 but plan on getting an m445

lenny
02-04-2013, 09:28 PM
On deans, That is not good.
They will get hot and melt if you pull to many amp on them.
The deans is the weakest link in the setup, They will only handle 50 amps.
What is going on the esc to motor ?

Megabiker98
02-04-2013, 09:37 PM
5.5 mm bullets, what would u say about traxxas plugs? I might be able to pull of the bullet connector, the problem is that I don't have a sauder gun nor do I think I wanna get one at the moment

Megabiker98
02-04-2013, 09:37 PM
How do u set a series setup with bullets???

Rumdog
02-04-2013, 09:43 PM
One thing you're gonna need in this hobby, is a soldering iron. They're cheap!

lenny
02-04-2013, 10:20 PM
:tiphat:
Also I like a mini torch to for 5.5 bullets and shrink wrap to.
http://search.yahoo.com/r/_ylt=A0oG7k4teRBRH08AMiBXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE1ZXU4czA 2BHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDOQRjb2xvA2FjMgR2dGlkA1ZJUDA3N18xN jU-/SIG=1270up6nl/EXP=1360062893/**http%3a//www.harborfreight.com/micro-torch-42099.html

Megabiker98
02-04-2013, 10:23 PM
Ya I know there cheap it's just myself learning and my concern for safety! If I setup a series connection with bullets would I be able to shrink wrap the 2 wires together so I don't " loose the loose cable?

tlandauer
02-04-2013, 11:13 PM
The two wires that come out of the battery need not be shrink wrapped together, you need them separated so you can connect them to the ESC as well. Alot depends on the location of the batt.packs and the ESC, but in general I haven't seen any batteries with bullet plugs having the wires bind together, unless that is not what you mean.
The most important thing is you need to get protective caps for the bullet plugs, I make them myself out of shrink wraps but I believe Kintec sells them:http://kintecracing.com/Connectors___Adapters.html

lenny
02-04-2013, 11:31 PM
These will work to.http://www.staples.com/Dixon-Ticonderoga-79003-Pencil-Wedge-Cap-Eraser-Pink/product_882391

Megabiker98
02-04-2013, 11:38 PM
Ok and I've heard people say to solder one male and one female to the batteries???

Alfa Spirit
02-04-2013, 11:39 PM
The HobbyWing 130A/180A HV have an integrated anti spark, this ESC need only a cap bank, easy to build, 4 x 1000µF 63 Volts

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tlandauer
02-04-2013, 11:49 PM
Ok and I've heard people say to solder one male and one female to the batteries???
Yes! I will post some pic. later.

Megabiker98
02-05-2013, 12:18 AM
Illtry to explain this as best as possible since my phone won't upload photos! But back to my series connector question, so when u solder something in series there are the 2 normal wires coming out of the esc each going to one plug, then there is a third stray wire connecting the two plugs, if I replace the plugs with bullets, what can I do to insure I don't lose the third "stray" wire?? Would I be able to shrink wrap it to the the other positive/negative wires? Or would that create problems??

tlandauer
02-05-2013, 12:28 AM
Here is a very primitive drawing, I am sorry it took this long: kid is using the computer to do homw work.93239 93240

tlandauer
02-05-2013, 12:30 AM
Illtry to explain this as best as possible since my phone won't upload photos! But back to my series connector question, so when u solder something in series there are the 2 normal wires coming out of the esc each going to one plug, then there is a third stray wire connecting the two plugs, if I replace the plugs with bullets, what can I do to insure I don't lose the third "stray" wire?? Would I be able to shrink wrap it to the the other positive/negative wires? Or would that create problems??
In this set up, we don't use the "Bridging wire", it is unnecessary.

Megabiker98
02-05-2013, 12:34 AM
Never mind I just watched a video explains how u can do away with the extra wire with bullets!!!

tlandauer
02-05-2013, 12:35 AM
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I like to use a "female" connector on the "Positive" side of the battery, and a "Male" connector on the Negative side of the battery. It seems this is the more popular way.
On the ESC, you need to do the opposite.

Megabiker98
02-05-2013, 12:35 AM
Yup hahaha just got that! Lol but I thought u were NEVER supposed to connect black and red wires together!!! :o

tlandauer
02-05-2013, 12:36 AM
Never mind I just watched a video explains how u can do away with the extra wire with bullets!!!
OK!

Megabiker98
02-05-2013, 12:38 AM
I appreciate all the help though!!!!

tlandauer
02-05-2013, 12:40 AM
:beerchug:

lenny
02-05-2013, 12:49 AM
On the same battery.:flame42:


Yup hahaha just got that! Lol but I thought u were NEVER supposed to connect black and red wires together!!! :o

Megabiker98
02-05-2013, 12:55 AM
On the same battery.:flame42: what's the difference if ones positive and ones negative? Don't take this offensive I just wanna learn!!!! Hahaha I'm a little confused with that! A negative charge is a negative charge across all batteries so y is it different from battery to battery? I can somewhat understand the theory just not fully grasping it right now!

tlandauer
02-05-2013, 01:41 AM
On the same battery.:flame42:
What Lenny meant is that you can not let the metal connectors on the SAME battery touch each other, you will short it out in less than a second, and these lipo batteries will start a REALLY NASTY fire. I am sure you know this.
That is the reason why I said it is important to have protective caps so you don't let them touch each other accidentally. Lenny's way of using eraser caps is very resourceful. So you see, it is of paramount importance you do that.
It is ok to connect a "NEGATIVE" from Battery#1 to the "POSITIVE" of Battery#2. This is "SERIES" connection, the total voltage is the sum of these Two batteries added together.
Think how you insert batteries into a flash light, the positive of the second battery stacks against the negative of the first battery you put in the shaft of the flash light.

tlandauer
02-05-2013, 01:59 AM
The HobbyWing 130A/180A HV have an integrated anti spark, this ESC need only a cap bank, easy to build, 4 x 1000µF 63 Volts

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Hello Alfa Spirit, sorry that we strayed away from the original discussion. Do you have the HobbyWing 130A/180A HV ESC? If you do, could you be so kind to post a complete picture ? I like to see a complete picture of it, I don't get how the anti-spark plug work. ( I have made my own version but somehow I can't relate to these pictures)
BTW, your hulls are beautiful and I like the way your laid out for the build!

lenny
02-05-2013, 02:16 AM
:lol:
Look at your lipo 2s pack as two lipo cells and each cell has + & - that = 3.7 volts now x that by 2 = 7.4 volts one 2s cell and you build from there by adding another 1s pack that = 3s 11.1 volts.
But the main + & - never touch each other.
OK you need to do some home work and read some info in. http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/forumdisplay.php?45-Charger-amp-Battery-Talk-Info-amp-Questions
http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/lipo.php
http://sites.google.com/site/tjinguytech/charging-how-tos
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=17907405&postcount=3
http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/info.php#Batteries_Tips_&_Info_

Their is a lot of info in these links that will help you.

lenny
02-05-2013, 02:26 AM
:iagree:

Will thanks, You made that very easy to understand. :hug1:

As for me good night.:blink:


What Lenny meant is that you can not let the metal connectors on the SAME battery touch each other, you will short it out in less than a second, and these lipo batteries will start a REALLY NASTY fire. I am sure you know this.
That is the reason why I said it is important to have protective caps so you don't let them touch each other accidentally. Lenny's way of using eraser caps is very resourceful. So you see, it is of paramount importance you do that.
It is ok to connect a "NEGATIVE" from Battery#1 to the "POSITIVE" of Battery#2. This is "SERIES" connection, the total voltage is the sum of these Two batteries added together.
Think how you insert batteries into a flash light, the positive of the second battery stacks against the negative of the first battery you put in the shaft of the flash light.

Megabiker98
02-05-2013, 09:59 AM
Ya that helped a lot!! Haha thanks! And this seaking 130 hv is a new product correct???

lenny
02-05-2013, 10:33 AM
It has be out for a little while,
It is more for high volt setup like 5s to 12s max.
My buddy has been using them in some boats and likes them for high volt setup.