new to RC hobby. Have a question about Miss Geico

[johnyeros]

I'm trying to get into the hobby.

I found somebody on craiglist selling this setup. He claimed that he got it from somebody and bought battery but never have the change to take it on the late. It's been sitting in shelf for last 6 months. The motor was install by a "pro".

Here's what I'm looking at
Miss Geico 29"
Vertigo Motor 34-24, 1800kv-8pole. Castle Reation
2 x Thunder Power 4450 11.1 V 22c/40c burst battery

All for $350.
I told him if he can charge it and demo it I'll buy it. He doens't even know it run currently but the people who sold it to him claim it does.

What do you guys think of this setup? Decent?

I know you can get the new RTR boat for about 390 + battery.

[Doby]

"Pro"...thats funny.

Lets have a look here and see what we have.
1) An 1800 kv motor...not familiar with the actual motor in question, but the KV rating is right where it should be.

2) It includes 2 11.1V Lipos....not really suited for that KV motor. If you run them in parallel, it will run (but only if the LVC doesn't kick in). I believe the controller is set up for 14.8v and the 11.1 might not work. If you connect them in series, you hit the whole set up with 22.2 volts and KABOOM!!

So the batteries aren't really suited for that setup and essentially useless to you.

3) "installed by a pro"....that just sends up red flags all over the place. Buyer be ware.

4) So for the price difference between a used vs old, you would be better off getting new...full warrenty included and not have to worry about a boat that the current owner has never run, but says the previous owner did.....more red flags.

5) As for the actual boat, a ProBoat Miss Geiko...thats a good boat from a good company.

[johnyeros]

Yes I ended up picking MG people many people recommend it. The motor is a helicopter motor supposely. It seem fast but it's not water cool. I'm not sure how good this would run.
I also forgot to added he got some kinda Castle ESC on it? Perhaps this is what allow the new voltage?

[johnyeros]

One more question: I have a change to pick up a spartan boat for about 215.. IS this even worth it? I read spartan can go bad ass if you modd but the a lot of people said traxxas are awesome but not when it come to boat and spartan aren't going to be as good. I love the way that boat look :D

[Doby]

What Castle controller is in the boat?

[johnyeros]

What Castle controller is in the boat?

Look like one of these
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_info.php/cPath/1574_199/products_id/18210/n/Castle-Creations-10-Amp-Adjustable-BEC?utm_source=Google-Base&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Product-Feeds&source=google_ext&gclid=CIncoJLS1rQCFVCd4AodKlAA3A
http://www.mammothhobbies.com/Castle-Creations-Castle-Bec-10Amp-25Vmax-Input-p/cse010-0004-00.htm?gclid=CLrDm6rS1rQCFVCd4AodKlAA3A&gdftrk=gdfV24732_a_7c1937_a_7c6096_a_7cCSE010_d_00 04_d_00

[justski]

there is a Miss Geico for sale on here

[Doby]

Look like one of these
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_info.php/cPath/1574_199/products_id/18210/n/Castle-Creations-10-Amp-Adjustable-BEC?utm_source=Google-Base&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Product-Feeds&source=google_ext&gclid=CIncoJLS1rQCFVCd4AodKlAA3A
http://www.mammothhobbies.com/Castle-Creations-Castle-Bec-10Amp-25Vmax-Input-p/cse010-0004-00.htm?gclid=CLrDm6rS1rQCFVCd4AodKlAA3A&gdftrk=gdfV24732_a_7c1937_a_7c6096_a_7cCSE010_d_00 04_d_00

Those are BEC's , not speed conrollers.

[Heaving Earth]

Yes I ended up picking MG people many people recommend it. The motor is a helicopter motor supposely. It seem fast but it's not water cool. I'm not sure how good this would run.
I also forgot to added he got some kinda Castle ESC on it? Perhaps this is what allow the new voltage?

It really won't matter what kind of esc you use, because 1800kv motor is just too high kv for 22.2v

[Heaving Earth]

Listen to doby he knows what he is saying

[Darin Jordan]

"Pro"...thats funny.

That IS funny... I'd like to know exactly what that means... Not sure it takes a "Pro" to install the two 2.5mm screws involved in mounting a motor... ;)

[MAMBA2200]

i have a mystic for sale same hull in the sale forum

[johnyeros]

Thanks guy :), I'll probably stop by a hobby shop today and see what they got there but I'm pretty much set on MG. Now just finding a place to get it.

[Darin Jordan]

Thanks guy :), I'll probably stop by a hobby shop today and see what they got there but I'm pretty much set on MG. Now just finding a place to get it.

Just for reference, the MG, Mystic, and BlackJack 29 are all the same hull... the BlackJack 29 has the most "evolved" hardware, which is also retrofitable back to the MG. It will not bolt directly to the Mystic, but can be fitted. (long story, just take my word for it...)...

[johnyeros]

oh so i actually like the blackjack look better.. I should go for that instead. Basically same hull with various slightly different hardware with blackjack being the latest :). gotcha.

[johnyeros]

Darin,
Do you know anything about these battery? I saw somebody else on youtube with this battery for MG and he said it was good. I'm not going racing with other on first day so I'm not ready to drop 200 bucks on awesome battery pack yet.


http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__16785__ZIPPY_Flightmax_5000mAh_2S1P_40C_USA_Ware house_.html

[justski]

i dont know about anyone else ...i just picked up one lipo from hobbyking the first lipo i ever bought because i just started rc boats my self ...i went threw hell just to get the battery from them... then it was damaged when i got it now i am going threw hell to get a new one or money back

[Darin Jordan]

Darin,
Do you know anything about these battery? I saw somebody else on youtube with this battery for MG and he said it was good. I'm not going racing with other on first day so I'm not ready to drop 200 bucks on awesome battery pack yet.


http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__16785__ZIPPY_Flightmax_5000mAh_2S1P_40C_USA_Ware house_.html

I don't have any experience with anything outside of Thunder Power, in the past 3 or 4 years. You'll have to check with others who may have.

I do know that GrimRacer packs are excellent alternatives...

If you are running 4S, a pair of anything decent over 5,000 mAh, is where you'll want to start. I like to run my Miss Geico for P-Ltd Offshore with a pair of 6600 mAh Thunder Power 2S1P packs... But there are lots of other options and combos out there. A pair of 4S1P packs, wired in parallel, is another good option for increased runtime. Just keep an eye on motor temps.

[MAMBA2200]

i have had lots of these pack and i must say out of about 30 packs ive had one to go bad

[johnyeros]

I will get the blackjack 29"
I'm thinking of getting a pair of these

http://www.amazon.com/5000mAh-Hardcase-Battery-Racing-Approval/dp/9269809420/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1357694073&sr=8-1&keywords=gen+ace+5000mah
I read a some review and people say they're pretty decent. These should be good right?

I'll buy a charger too. Any suggestion would be great.

Thanks

[Kiwiracer]

I,ve bought a pair of those GENS Ace 5000mah 7.4V packs and there working great. I run them in my BJ29 and my Mystic and they seem to have plenty of go. Not to keen to run 3S packs in the BJ29 even though it says you can.

I also bought the Turnigy 4 port charger. Ideal with running the 2 boats as I'm always charging/balancing 4 packs. Plus it's got a heap of charge/ storage options.

[johnyeros]

Yes, ended up buying the black jack + 2 x of these battery and a thunder ac680 charger along with some adapter for the wire. I didn't feel like soldering battery right off the bat. From reading forum seems like these batteries you could get a bad one with solder and I would still have to do it. Cross my fingers :D

Thanks all

[scrillamil]

I am running 2) 3s poweredge 5000mah 30c in the BJ29 (stock wiring set up) motor ESC has stayed cool so far havent GPS yet but heck of alot faster than my 2s 6oc batteries! Just getting it to quit hopping so I can get a full speed run! Very happy w/ these proboats! I am gonna buy the MG v2 shortly. Good luck its addicting.

[johnyeros]

battery came yesterday.. both gen aces 5000 mah they charge to about 2500-2600 mah on both and stop. I read and people say that's ok since they usually half charge when it's ship. Boat should come today! can't wait