The "KINGKONG BUNDY " of brushless inrunners

[Punisher 67]

Check this bad boy out - maximum horse power is over 25HP - I does have a continuous rating of 14HP

http://shop.rcboatbitz.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=47_45&products_id=1057

[srislash]

OH MY!!!We need bigger hulls?

[Doby]

I have one of those...going in my SV-27.

[Punisher 67]

I don't know if this one is the same inside but its advertised at 120 x 120 with a 26,000 watt max output which puts it a 30hp

http://www.tppower.com/sort.asp?class_id=4&news=59

[srislash]

So I am guessing these are E-bike motors with that low KV.
I have always dreamed of building a one man Electric outrigger to scream around the lake with.We are getting there,we just need those Nano-Phosphate batteries.

[Heaving Earth]

Big John stud

[ManuelW]

Big question is not to get a big brushless motor, big question is where to get a suitable ESC?

regards,
Manuel

[srislash]

Big question is not to get a big brushless motor, big question is where to get a suitable ESC?

regards,
ManuelThis is why I thought E-bike Manuel. Next up is E-car.LOL

[Punisher 67]

Big question is not to get a big brushless motor, big question is where to get a suitable ESC?

regards,
Manuel

Don't kid yourself , In our never ending quest to go bigger and better I am sure thats on the drawing board somewhere also and there is no real rocket science to building an esc that handles more power - just cost . I would be curious what models they had in mind when they designed and built these motors .

[Rocstar]

:biggrin:
91187

http://www.revoltevc.com/controllers/soliton1.html

[carlcisneros]

gee, and at just 3300bucks for an ESC, I MIGHT just get 2. :rofl:

[Rocstar]

Well yeah, you have to run twins of course....:olleyes:

[Heaving Earth]

Honestly, what the heck kinda batteries would you need.... I mean this is just ridiculous. I have to see this behemoth in use lol

[ray schrauwen]

Chris fine sells them:


30 HP Model
10 pole
25,000max rpms
10mm Shaft
22,000
watts

600

500

41

4.4

5"x5"

Special Order
2 week delivery time
1885.00








I don't know if this one is the same inside but its advertised at 120 x 120 with a 26,000 watt max output which puts it a 30hp

http://www.tppower.com/sort.asp?class_id=4&news=59

[RIPFENCE]

Thatsa huuuge biiitch!!

Just looks hilarious..must use garden hose for cooling lines

[Punisher 67]

Chris fine sells them:


30 HP Model
10 pole
25,000max rpms
10mm Shaft
22,000
watts

600

500

41

4.4

5"x5"

Special Order
2 week delivery time
1885.00

Looks like a 200% mark up if thats what he's asking - no thanks not from him . Ray I do not see them anywhere on his site .

[Doby]

http://www.finedesignrc.com/motorsnemesisblackdiamond.asp

[forescott]

Honestly, what the heck kinda batteries would you need.... I mean this is just ridiculous. I have to see this behemoth in use lol

Wait! I found a battery!

[Heaving Earth]

Lol
Maybe a few Duracell will do http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/04/enahabu6.jpg

[Heaving Earth]

On a serious note, what size hull would this be for?

[ray schrauwen]

Maybe a kneel down hydroplane, what do they call'em sea fleas?

[ray schrauwen]

This is a tad big but, eventually...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbDYGpscY_c&list=PL309FA103C44D86BF&feature=mh_lolz

[siberianhusky]

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__17392__Turnigy_Fatboy_300A_ESC_5_15S_OPTO_.html

maybe something like this? Or the monster Jeti Spin.

http://mgm-compro.com/index.php?tid=brushless-speed-controllers-tmm-40063-3-x-series-32-bit-system

or this 400 amps cont. at 63V!

LOL think it would be cheaper to go turbine! Especially once you start buying the batteries!

[srislash]

Well,this is the first sign of sales that I have seen on these Nano Phosphates http://www.a123systems.com/lithium-iron-phosphate-battery.htm
If you poke around you can get some info on them.

[Heaving Earth]

A123 has two labs a mile down the st from me. I always wanted to go in and ask about hobby grade batteries

[srislash]

I would be curious as to what info you would get from these guys. I had heard that these would be smaller and more juice. In reading their site apparently you can pull them down more than Lipo's safely.

[Brushless55]

How about one of those 84" monos!

[c_michael_72]

Chris Fine sure does sell TP motors, including the 30 HP monster. He markets them as Black Diamond Nemesis and has claimed on numerous occasions that "his" line of Black Diamond Nemesis motors are "new to the market" from am "aerospace company" he's been working with in China.

His entire line of Black Diamond motors are nothing more than marked up TP's. The same motors available on fightercat for less than half the price. I'm not one to impede a man's method of livelihood, but when lied to, on numerous occasions in attempts to sell overpriced, falsely marketed motors, a line has to be drawn. Not that this will surprise some of you, but on the models where TP paints their logo on the cooling fins and cooling can, he goes so far as to grind/wire brush off all the branding...ask me how I know. :censored:


Chris fine sells them:


30 HP Model
10 pole
25,000max rpms
10mm Shaft
22,000
watts

600

500

41

4.4

5"x5"

Special Order
2 week delivery time
1885.00

[ray schrauwen]

He is the only one US dealer to offer Mainly or Only "Y" winds. Since TP and other Tp dealers mainly advertise "D" winds, he is actually offering something different,

Yes, I agree his prices are the steepest.


Chris Fine sure does sell TP motors, including the 30 HP monster. He markets them as Black Diamond Nemesis and has claimed on numerous occasions that "his" line of Black Diamond Nemesis motors are "new to the market" from am "aerospace company" he's been working with in China.

His entire line of Black Diamond motors are nothing more than marked up TP's. The same motors available on fightercat for less than half the price. I'm not one to impede a man's method of livelihood, but when lied to, on numerous occasions in attempts to sell overpriced, falsely marketed motors, a line has to be drawn. Not that this will surprise some of you, but on the models where TP paints their logo on the cooling fins and cooling can, he goes so far as to grind/wire brush off all the branding...ask me how I know. :censored:

[c_michael_72]

Good Morning Ray. You are certainly entitled to your opinion, and to defend Mr. Fine...nothing wrong with that whatsoever. However, regarding your point about offering something "different", I'd lean toward thinking that just because other retailers choose to "mainly" or "only" offer a specific wind or size, doesn't mean they won't or don't order their customers whatever motor they desire. I know personally that TP is easy do deal with, even directly. I guess my main point was that in fact he lied to me on multiple occasions. Boo Hoo, right? This is nothing new in the world of sales but it deserves being exposed when identified. Just my opinion.

Wrapping this around back around to "on topic" discussions, I can say that TP's have performed "somewhat well" in my limited experience with them. I most certainly don't have the 30 hp monster motor, but have ran their 8400 watt 6 pole in a short cat. It logged over 10,000 watts on several occasions and never broke a sweat.


He is the only one US dealer to offer Mainly or Only "Y" winds. Since TP and other Tp dealers mainly advertise "D" winds, he is actually offering something different,

Yes, I agree his prices are the steepest.

[ray schrauwen]

I'm not defending him but, he has always been square with me when I call him.

I do not make fun of anyone that has troubles with any supplier. I have dealt with TP directly also and they are very good, prices via direct are almost the same as Fine Design.

*EDIT, no prices are not even close, sorry, just checked.... Whoa... My apologies. Must have had the "GOLD" series in my mind...

[Punisher 67]

I just bought the TP100 from an Australian vendor for just under Canadian $700.00 which I find very fair price wise , The fact that Fine is advertising his for over $1800.00 is ridicules and hi-way robbery .

[Doby]

I just bought the TP100 from an Australian vendor for just under Canadian $700.00 which I find very fair price wise , The fact that Fine is advertising his for over $1800.00 is ridicules and hi-way robbery .

Nice profit margin for him though..................

[Heaving Earth]

Haha and then people wonder why others buy from sources outside this "great" country of ours.

[Heaving Earth]

I suppose next there will be t180's on his site for 490 bux, with NASA logos stuck all over them

[c_michael_72]

Now that was freaking funny sh@t!!! Nice



I suppose next there will be t180's on his site for 490 bux, with NASA logos stuck all over them

[Punisher 67]

TPPower makes the TP100 and the TP120 . What I ordered and started this thread with was the TP100 , Fine is advertising the TP120 which is 5 inches x 5 inches and it is considerably more expensive than the TP100 but I could get it less than Fines $1885.00 . That motor is so overkill for any models we use its not even funny . The TP100 which is 4 inches x 4 inches and will be put is a 57" Apache is bordering on way overkill also . But hey I have always been a big block fan .

[ray schrauwen]

Yeah but, it would be cool in go cart would it not?

What kind of motor do you think I could use to power my wheelchair? I weight 185 and the chair is 32= 217lbs

Then how would I gear it? The cars in the crapper almost so I need something :blah:


TPPower makes the TP100 and the TP120 . What I ordered and started this thread with was the TP100 , Fine is advertising the TP120 which is 5 inches x 5 inches and it is considerably more expensive than the TP100 but I could get it less than Fines $1885.00 . That motor is so overkill for any models we use its not even funny . The TP100 which is 4 inches x 4 inches and will be put is a 57" Apache is bordering on way overkill also . But hey I have always been a big block fan .

[Punisher 67]

You could get away with as little as 500 watts Ray or depending on how fast you want to go - I built a Cobalt 60 powered electric bike back in the early 90's and it did 35 kph with a range of 12kilometers per charge ( 42 x 4000mah/DR cells ) I have been itching to build another one with the current tech .

[ray schrauwen]

Maybe I'll or we can start a thread in the anything electric section. I'd need hub's machined to replace the existing ones to couple the power to them.

Cool.:cool:

[Old Sloppy]

So, What Prop will match that motor ?

I did some estimating .... with a 200 amp ESC (castle HV2 ice)

x465 + 11s lipo = 58.46 mph and 195 amps and 22,970 rpm and 8,594 watts, 3.02 run time (11s2p) .

or

x462 + 12s lipo = 61.8 mph, 25,471 rpm, 187.5 amps, 9,062 watts, 3.2 run time (12s2p)

intended to mount in a 72" Apache hull.....

Harry

[ray schrauwen]

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/VXP-95318-CNC-Alloy-Prop-Line-50cc-above-Gas-Engine-Propeller-95mm-1-8p-/170800313244?pt=US_Radio_Control_Control_Line&hash=item27c47df39c

[Punisher 67]

Just Google hub motors Ray

[ray schrauwen]

Ah yes... I shall give a buddy a call at Golectric.com. Pete Steinke has an E-bike business, he could help out. Thanks.

[lenny]

Hey Ray do you have any links for TP motors like this one. http://search.yahoo.com/r/_ylt=A0oG7t57ObFRqX4AGBNXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE1cjMwaDJ yBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMgRjb2xvA2FjMgR2dGlkA1ZJUDA3N18xN zA-/SIG=13d3f1cbf/EXP=1370597883/**http%3a//www.fastmodelrc.com/index.php/motore-brushless-tp-power-4-poli-4060-4y-1450kv.html

I am trying to help this OP post out for info. http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/showthread.php?41334-New-to-the-OSE-Forums...Saying-hello!&goto=newpost

[ray schrauwen]

No idea except direct from TP Power

[lenny]

:tiphat:
Do you have a link for TP Power motors web site ?

[Rocstar]

:tiphat:
Do you have a link for TP Power motors web site ?
http://tppower.com/

[lenny]

Thank you for that link.:beerchug: