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Flying Scotsman
06-12-2008, 01:17 PM
I, have noted as of today, a serious lack by many users in a capability to respond or ask questions in the english language.
The people, I am addressing are from North America and I presume schooled within the system.
How, will we be competitive with no language skills???

Douggie

Steven Vaccaro
06-12-2008, 02:02 PM
Lots of yough people today are so used to instant messaging and online chat, that's its like second nature to write short incomplete sentences with poor punctuation.

Dr. Jet
06-12-2008, 02:16 PM
I, have noted as of today, a serious lack by many users in a capability to respond or ask questions in the english language.
The people, I am addressing are from North America and I presume schooled within the system.
How, will we be competitive with no language skills???

Douggie

We won't.

We live in a land where government-run schools are invested in the ignorance of the populous as a whole. An educated society is suspicious of government. An ignorant society depends on government for their very existence.

Our children are coming out of school not knowing the difference between there, their and they’re, but they know how to put a condom on a cucumber and know that polar bears are dying because greedy Republicans drive SUVs.

Look at what happened to the Roman Empire. This country has already started down the same path to ruin, and I doubt we will turn it around. Be prepared, we will soon become yet another third-world socialist dictatorship.

Dr. Jet
06-12-2008, 02:24 PM
P.S. I'm a member of the Savage Nation and I vote.

Borders, Language, and Culture.

almost as clever as Fast, Cheap, and Out of Control.

Steven Vaccaro
06-12-2008, 02:44 PM
Our children are coming out of school not knowing the difference between there, their and they’re, but they know how to put a condom on a cucumber and know that polar bears are dying because greedy Republicans drive SUVs.

Unfortunately for me, I'm one of those children. I'm not proud that my command of the English language is poor. Several nice enough customers have helped me in that area over the years. Growing up in the inner city is interesting. The teachers are more interested in trying to get the kids into the next higher grade than really teach. Massachusetts's now has a very controversial testing system now in place. No longer can the teachers just move the kids on to the next grade. The school systems are graded by the kids scores. My much younger brother was the first class to have to pass this test in order to graduate high school. When this was enacted, they evacuated all the children. My brother was a 8th grader or so, reading at about a 4th grade level! Guess what happened? The school system HAD to rush to bring him up to speed! If that system wasn't put into place he would have been pushed on like all the other kids before him.

Steven Vaccaro
06-12-2008, 02:47 PM
P.S. I'm a member of the Savage Nation and I vote.

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LOL, I'm not a member, but do listen. Oh, ya I vote to. Unfortunately the presidential election for the 3rd time around gives me no options but to vote for the devil I know.

Doby
06-12-2008, 02:56 PM
I gots me a edukashun,,,whats you talkn bout :bounce:


Doug; its the same up here in the great white north. The written word is a lost art in the electronic sludge we have in the world today.

It ain't gettin beter eidther :w00t:

Dr. Jet
06-12-2008, 03:01 PM
Don't get me started on Presidential elections. :zip-up: I fear this country, populated by far too many ignorant consumers of government-media propaganda will elect a man that has no prior accomplishments he can point to, no programs he is proposing, but he is the right ethnicity and will bring change.

Hitler brought change to Germany in 1932.

Please, start another thread if you want to discuss politics. Let's leave this to the discussion of illiteracy in the USA.

egneg
06-12-2008, 04:44 PM
All I have to say about the subject is that everyone knows that it's bring, brang, and brung.

Flying Scotsman
06-12-2008, 05:00 PM
Lots of yough people today are so used to instant messaging and online chat, that's its like second nature to write short incomplete sentences with poor punctuation.

Steven, that is the problem. Who will hire people, regardless of their degree, if they can not communicate.

Douggie

SJFE
06-12-2008, 06:16 PM
The education issue is deeper than just schools. God knows I am not in command of the language as far as spelling or anything else when it comes to typing. But whay I can't believe is what apears to be a complete lack of commen sence in ALOT of people. My Wifes generation is the worst( earley 20s). It seems to be kewl if your a dumbass. My brother in law is a perfect example. No concept of anything outside of xbox, chicks and the latest kicks. 22 still lives @ home with mommy paying the bills. IMO This is one of the reasons Rome is burning. No offence to you young guy's who are worth a damn....lol We need more of you.

RCprince
06-12-2008, 07:27 PM
English is diverse in it's simplicity. another thing we forget is that our educational system here in America was based on a need for mass production during the industrial age which have died, We produce nothing anymore. Wealthy people needed a means in order to hastily education it's work force with the basic skill, We fast-forward to and it's bitting us in the arse...Think of it the wealthiest man in America(Bill Gates) is asking congress to allow more foreign workers in(H1b VISAS), Thats a serious indictment on our educational system, in simple words he's saying we're incompetent.

Check this out and you wonder why we can't speak or think straight:

We take English for granted. But if we explore its paradoxes,
we find.
There is no egg in eggplant nor ham in hamburger; neither apple nor
pine in pineapple... English muffins were not invented in England or
French fries in France. Sweetmeats are candies, while sweetbreads,
which aren't sweet, are meat.
That quicksand can work slowly, boxing rings are square,and a
guinea pig is neither from Guinea nor is it a pig.
And why is it that writers write, but fingers don't fing, grocers don't groce,
and hammers don't ham?

If the plural of tooth is teeth, why isn't the plural of booth beeth? One goose, 2 geese.So, one moose, 2 meese?

One index, two indices? Is cheese the plural of choose? If
teachers taught, why didn't preachers praught? If a vegetarian eats
vegetables, what does a humanitarian eat?

In what language do people recite at a play, and play at a recital? Ship by truck, and send cargo by ship? Have noses that run and feet that smell? Park on driveways and drive on parkways?

How can a slim chance and a fat chance be the same, while a wise man and a wise guy are opposites? How can the weather be hot as hell one day and cold as hell another?

When a house burns up, it burns down. You fill in a form by filling it out, and an alarm clock goes off by going on. When the stars are out, they are visible, but when the lights are out, they are invisible. And why, when I wind up my watch, I start it, but when I wind up this essay, I end it.:help: :cursing: :confused1: :doh: :huh:

Mich. Maniac
06-12-2008, 07:28 PM
bring, brang, brung? Sink, sank, sunk. Thats how my boating goes! cool thread guys.

RCprince
06-12-2008, 08:00 PM
And so now you know why Presidents are not Elected, But Selected. Rich people will never allow common people to make choice or have inputs on their high stake interests.

SJFE
06-12-2008, 08:07 PM
If I didn't know better Prince I'd think you where Steven Wright.

RCprince
06-12-2008, 08:10 PM
who this Steven Wright http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Wright