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Tom899
08-10-2012, 05:50 AM
Finally got my batteries, learned my powerlab 6 charger and ready to try her out! The long shipping time for my batteries was probably a good thing as this gave me time to balance and sharpen my prop, sharpen the rudder, elongate the water inlet hole, replace the stock shaft and collet nut with the one from OSE, add the thrust bearing, change all my connecters to EC5's, Loctite all the hardware, and read read read the forum for hints and adjustments. The boat ran great! It seems very fast and handles well. Not a single drop of water in the hull when finished. I did notice it chine walked at top speed. I have since raised my turn fins up, slightly lowered the inboard trim tabs and looking forward to see what that does. My batteries were all the way back so I will experiment with relocating those next time out. Awesome boat and very happy so far.

sturco
08-10-2012, 11:00 AM
tom899, good for you ! I did exactly the same thing and have an excellent Revolt. Let me know how your "chine walking" adjustments work as this is my next set of adjustments. same set-up as you have w/o those adj's.
Steve

gyrotron
08-10-2012, 06:06 PM
Finally got my batteries, learned my powerlab 6 charger and ready to try her out! The long shipping time for my batteries was probably a good thing as this gave me time to balance and sharpen my prop, sharpen the rudder, elongate the water inlet hole, replace the stock shaft and collet nut with the one from OSE, add the thrust bearing, change all my connecters to EC5's, Loctite all the hardware, and read read read the forum for hints and adjustments. The boat ran great! It seems very fast and handles well. Not a single drop of water in the hull when finished. I did notice it chine walked at top speed. I have since raised my turn fins up, slightly lowered the inboard trim tabs and looking forward to see what that does. My batteries were all the way back so I will experiment with relocating those next time out. Awesome boat and very happy so far.
Hello Tom,

Did you have to use a spacer when adding the thrust bearing? When you do this upgrade do you have to tighten the collet all the way up againgt the bearing? I will be doin this same upgrade on my Revolt and wanted to make sure I install it correctly.

Thank you.

Tom899
08-10-2012, 06:30 PM
I didn't have to use a spacer, I think because I also ordered the upgraded collet and nut which is longer than the original, it actually has two set screws to hold it on the shaft. I have it against the bearing but it's not preloaded which I think it should be. I may redo it as read another user mentioned he preloaded his by 1\2. I need more information on what is recommended?


Hello Tom,

Did you have to use a specer when adding the thrust bearing? When you do this upgrade do you have to tighten the collet all the way up againgt the bearing? I will be doin this same upgrade on my Revolt and wanted to make sure I install it correctly.

Thank you.

Tom899
08-10-2012, 06:31 PM
tom899, good for you ! I did exactly the same thing and have an excellent Revolt. Let me know how your "chine walking" adjustments work as this is my next set of adjustments. same set-up as you have w/o those adj's.
Steve

I'll let you know what I find and you please let us know your experience?
Thanks

gyrotron
08-10-2012, 06:39 PM
I will as soon as I install the thrust bearing.

Mike Caruso
08-12-2012, 06:57 PM
tom899, good for you ! I did exactly the same thing and have an excellent Revolt. Let me know how your "chine walking" adjustments work as this is my next set of adjustments. same set-up as you have w/o those adj's.
Steve
My chine walk was bad with the 45 x 68 but FAST not racing so it's fine with me.....I like being on the edge I have to find the limits of my setup.

Tom899
08-13-2012, 07:15 PM
It seems to me that the chine walk will greatly reduce by moving the batteries forward at the cost of speed. I think I can put up with some chine walk for higher speed. So far I'm really pleased with the boat, I especially like how well it turns at high speed.

Mike Caruso
08-13-2012, 10:51 PM
It seems to me that the chine walk will greatly reduce by moving the batteries forward at the cost of speed. I think I can put up with some chine walk for higher speed. So far I'm really pleased with the boat, I especially like how well it turns at high speed.
I ran yesterday 45 x 68 on glass smooth water no wind 44.7 mph 1000 watts ouch, sounded like more rpm and very little chine walk. Then I installed the stock prop that I finally sharped and balanced. The boat was about as fast as with the big prop. I forgot to bring my laptop so I could only save the first run. I telling you this is the prop you want. You can carve the water up, u turns and blast down the straightaway. My 4s is still back and I have it shimmed to the port / left side as it makes a difference. I have not lowered the trim tabs yet but I will just lower the starboard / right side outside one first, then second. This should help with the boats torque roll. I will bring the laptop next time as I leaving the stock prop on for now.

gyrotron
08-13-2012, 11:33 PM
I ran yesterday 45 x 68 on glass smooth water no wind 44.7 mph 1000 watts ouch, sounded like more rpm and very little chine walk. Then I installed the stock prop that I finally sharped and balanced. The boat was about as fast as with the big prop. I forgot to bring my laptop so I could only save the first run. I telling you this is the prop you want. You can carve the water up, u turns and blast down the straightaway. My 4s is still back and I have it shimmed to the port / left side as it makes a difference. I have not lowered the trim tabs yet but I will just lower the starboard / right side outside one first, then second. This should help with the boats torque roll. I will bring the laptop next time as I leaving the stock prop on for now.
Good to know you are getting some extra mph with the serviced stock prop. Let us know how the new trim tab setting went.

Tom899
08-30-2012, 10:19 PM
It seems to me that the chine walk will greatly reduce by moving the batteries forward at the cost of speed. I think I can put up with some chine walk for higher speed. So far I'm really pleased with the boat, I especially like how well it turns at high speed.

Update- I ran with my bike Garmin GPS today (2oz), max speed was 35.8mph. The boat is stock except I balanced and sharpened the prop, elongated the water inlet, sharpened the rudder. I'm running two 2s 5000mah 45c nano batteries. I do have a Octra x642 and Grim Racer 45x68 props but have not prepared them yet. I sure would like to break 40mph. What do you guys think I should do for mods to gain 4 or 5mph?

Mike Caruso
08-31-2012, 12:43 AM
I will run on Monday so Monday night I will post. Keep working with the stock prop BTW it takes a long time to sharpen that shape. Mike

Grimracer
08-31-2012, 01:21 PM
Thought you might enjoy

L45X68.. 5th run of the day. I dont usually show stuff like this but its good info to ponder.

83583
Grim

Mike Caruso
08-31-2012, 03:36 PM
Thought you might enjoy

L45X68.. 5th run of the day. I dont usually show stuff like this but its good info to ponder.

83583
Grim

Nice Mike mine don't look so smooth thats why I have not posted yet. I think I need to spend more time learning the ET layouts. My boat did like the 45x68 ran 45 and change more on the edge very cool. Mike

Tom899
09-01-2012, 07:54 AM
Nice Grim! I will start to prepare my L45x68. I would like to break 40mph (I'm at 35.8mph). Should I buy a particular battery / batteries? Are there any must do adjustments?
Thanks for your help,
Tom


Thought you might enjoy

L45X68.. 5th run of the day. I dont usually show stuff like this but its good info to ponder.

83583
Grim

Tom899
09-02-2012, 11:54 AM
Update- I ran with my bike Garmin GPS today (2oz), max speed was 35.8mph. The boat is stock except I balanced and sharpened the prop, elongated the water inlet, sharpened the rudder. I'm running two 2s 5000mah 45c nano batteries. I do have a Octra x642 and Grim Racer 45x68 props but have not prepared them yet. I sure would like to break 40mph. What do you guys think I should do for mods to gain 4 or 5mph?

Udate 2- I balanced and sharpened my Grim Racer 45x68 prop, installed it and ran 40.4mph (5mph increase over stock prop). This boat turns so sharp I think it's going to tip over but it doesn't! Very well designed.

Mike Caruso
09-02-2012, 02:11 PM
Udate 2- I balanced and sharpened my Grim Racer 45x68 prop, installed it and ran 40.4mph (5mph increase over stock prop). This boat turns so sharp I think
's going to tip over but it doesn't! Very well designed.

That's great news now move the batteries back. Slow the steering down or turn slower, you are correct it does come about !!!!!! Coolest boat Big fun. Mike

Tom899
09-03-2012, 06:31 PM
That's great news now move the batteries back. Slow the steering down or turn slower, you are correct it does come about !!!!!! Coolest boat Big fun. Mike

This run was with my batteries all the way back. Maybe some different batteries? Move to one 4s instead of two 2s? Although the weight is about the same, just concentrated lower and more middle.

Mike Caruso
09-03-2012, 08:13 PM
This run was with my batteries all the way back. Maybe some different batteries? Move to one 4s instead of two 2s? Although the weight is about the same, just concentrated lower and more middle.

I have Grim 4s pack. Ran today something is going away in my boat. I have lost 8-10 mph I ran my Grim 4s pack, then 2x2s Hyperion 40c same performance as Grim and 2x2s Turnagy (not as strong batteries) I either have the motor which has lost some power (bearings + drive line OK) or the ESC is my problem. Really don't know what to do at this point? I can tell you the second to last run I finally adjusted the right trim tab level with the hull bottom. This did not slow the boat down but made it run almost perfect up right at WOT. The last run as I was tired and hot I turned the boat over and scuffed the bottom lightly with a 3M green pad (just the rear section) where the boat rides to see what would happen. SURPRISE best of the day and I had to re-trim steering to STRAIGHT which added 1-2 mph. Eagle Tree and Video tomorrow just too tired tonight. Mike

gyrotron
09-04-2012, 08:59 AM
I have Grim 4s pack. Ran today something is going away in my boat. I have lost 8-10 mph I ran my Grim 4s pack, then 2x2s Hyperion 40c same performance as Grim and 2x2s Turnagy (not as strong batteries) I either have the motor which has lost some power (bearings + drive line OK) or the ESC is my problem. Really don't know what to do at this point? I can tell you the second to last run I finally adjusted the right trim tab level with the hull bottom. This did not slow the boat down but made it run almost perfect up right at WOT. The last run as I was tired and hot I turned the boat over and scuffed the bottom lightly with a 3M green pad (just the rear section) where the boat rides to see what would happen. SURPRISE best of the day and I had to re-trim steering to STRAIGHT which added 1-2 mph. Eagle Tree and Video tomorrow just too tired tonight. Mike
Hello Mike,
I had a considerable loss of velocity (with some extra noise) when my Revolt's sutffing tube got loose; which augmented the friction inside it. Have you check the stuffing tube has not moved and/or loosened?

Mike Caruso
09-04-2012, 09:44 AM
Hello Mike,
I had a considerable loss of velocity (with some extra noise) when my Revolt's sutffing tube got loose; which augmented the friction inside it. Have you check the stuffing tube has not moved and/or loosened?

Thank you for the question. My stuffing box came loose during pre-fight before it ever hit the water. Everything mechanically is good. I wish I knew how to check the motor strength? Before I ran maybe if I took a oz/in reading with a short wrench on the cable nut to measure the magnets load on each pole. I hope someone can help as the boat is going to sit until I know what to buy to fix it. I just don't want to throw $$$$ at it.
P.S. It all started after the day I turned the throttle trim to bring the boat in slowly by some rocks. Never been the correct since....ESC tweaked?

Grimracer
09-04-2012, 12:10 PM
Thank you for the question. My stuffing box came loose during pre-fight before it ever hit the water. Everything mechanically is good. I wish I knew how to check the motor strength? Before I ran maybe if I took a oz/in reading with a short wrench on the cable nut to measure the magnets load on each pole. I hope someone can help as the boat is going to sit until I know what to buy to fix it. I just don't want to throw $$$$ at it.
P.S. It all started after the day I turned the throttle trim to bring the boat in slowly by some rocks. Never been the correct since....ESC tweaked?

Mike,

if it did not let the smoke out take a close look at the motor connectors. Typically" if it does not let the smoke out its not the Controller.. Might..might.. be the motor but start with the connectors to the motor.

Also.. Start over with the radio setup.. turn the TH trim to the 2 O clock position and start over.

Grim

Mike Caruso
09-04-2012, 09:09 PM
Mike,

if it did not let the smoke out take a close look at the motor connectors. Typically" if it does not let the smoke out its not the Controller.. Might..might.. be the motor but start with the connectors to the motor.

Also.. Start over with the radio setup.. turn the TH trim to the 2 O clock position and start over.

Grim

Thanks Grim,

Still checking the system over took rear cover off motor wires in there are fine. I noticed that the front end plate where I added a thrust bearing seemed tighter than I remember. I have to take that end off and check it out. I did some research and the 695-Z bearing used in the 1800kv motor will take thrust from the prop no problem. So I can see me removing the thrust bearing. One of the three motor to ESC connectors not real tight. I have the Eagle tree graph and a short video but don't see how to load them right now.

083811

Mike

Grimracer
09-05-2012, 09:13 AM
Yep.. no need for a thrust bearing.. (shhh.. ya can tell em all ya want but they wont listen...lol).... Remember.. these motors are made to push and pull.. Not much need for grear drives anymore!

Keep us posted

Grim

Mike Caruso
09-05-2012, 09:18 AM
Yep.. no need for a thrust bearing.. (shhh.. ya can tell em all ya want but they wont listen...lol).... Remember.. these motors are made to push and pull.. Not much need for grear drives anymore!

Keep us posted

Grim

Will do Grim.

Mike Caruso
09-05-2012, 01:46 PM
83848838498385083851

Look and learn from my screw ups.

In my attempt to make an already great new boat better I have caused my own problems. So I want to share my screw ups with everyone so we all can get these Re Volts flying. At 35-38 mph I am too used to it, because my old boats ran this speed. Running 45 mph keeps my attention HA!!! HAVE FUN BE SAFE. Mike

k.i.s.s. Keep it simple stupid..... Oh boy this could have really been bad because I installed a Thrust bearing on my motor and to my surprise it did GREAT job of cutting off oil to motor bearing. NOT A GOOD THING. Removing thrust bearing!!! Since I researched the 695Z motor bear (s) which can handle all the propeller end thrust without any problem! I am buying BOCA Ceramic one's I will let you people know how they work I believe it will be good.

I was lazy and just used ACERGOO instead of walking ten steps to get my Grim Speed Grease. Do not use ACERGOO on any boat cable drive because Yikes it caused quick-accelerated wear on prop stub Yikes. ACERGOO works great on my RC cars and trucks so don't take this wrong. Wonder how they would do with Grim SG? BTW ACER offers SIN Lube which I did use on my motor bearings nice lube.

Grim,
Thank you for designing this boat I promise not to screw it up anymore.
Mike
P.S. Are the 695Z bearings Flanged or non-Flanged? And have you tried them?

Grimracer
09-05-2012, 02:08 PM
83848838498385083851

Look and learn from my screw ups.

In my attempt to make an already great new boat better I have caused my own problems. So I want to share my screw ups with everyone so we all can get these Re Volts flying. At 35-38 mph I am too used to it, because my old boats ran this speed. Running 45 mph keeps my attention HA!!! HAVE FUN BE SAFE. Mike

k.i.s.s. Keep it simple stupid..... Oh boy this could have really been bad because I installed a Thrust bearing on my motor and to my surprise it did GREAT job of cutting off oil to motor bearing. NOT A GOOD THING. Removing thrust bearing!!! Since I researched the 695Z motor bear (s) which can handle all the propeller end thrust without any problem! I am buying BOCA Ceramic one's I will let you people know how they work I believe it will be good.

I was lazy and just used ACERGOO instead of walking ten steps to get my Grim Speed Grease. Do not use ACERGOO on any boat cable drive because Yikes it caused quick-accelerated wear on prop stub Yikes. ACERGOO works great on my RC cars and trucks so don't take this wrong. Wonder how they would do with Grim SG? BTW ACER offers SIN Lube which I did use on my motor bearings nice lube.

Grim,
Thank you for designing this boat I promise not to screw it up anymore.
Mike
P.S. Are the 695Z bearings Flanged or non-Flanged? And have you tried them?

Mike,

Not a mistake.. a guy has got to try things.. its in out blood!
Non Flanged and no I have not!

Grim
Grim

Tom899
09-05-2012, 07:53 PM
I bought two containers of Grim Grease when I bought my boat and grease the shaft after the day is over. I thought I may be over doing it but want to make sure it's good.

Tom

electric
09-06-2012, 10:09 AM
I am running a m445 prop and running 41- 44 mph. Raced against an older supervee last weekend and was reeling it in on the straights and certainly have the advantage on the corners as well. I will also say raising the strut up a bit will lower the hull in the water and reduce the chine walk. I did this on mine and saw a noticable difference in the handling of the boat for the better. I am setting the battery about mid point in the tray. Any further forward and I notice there is a greater likelyhood to stuff the boat in a good race chop. Not too fun to hold your breath as you wait for you boat to come back to the surface....or not...

Mike Caruso
09-07-2012, 09:12 PM
[QUOTE=Grimracer;450588]Mike,

Not a mistake.. a guy has got to try things.. its in out blood!
Non Flanged and no I have not!

Grim

Well

Mike Caruso
09-07-2012, 09:26 PM
Mike,

Not a mistake.. a guy has got to try things.. its in out blood!
Non Flanged and no I have not!

Grim
Grim

Well ran two runs back to back one with stock prop 36.7 mph, one with 45x68 prop 41.2 this prop which has run 45.7 mph. No thrust bearing everything gone over. Conclusion the magnets have gone weaker. I remember the first day it arrived it. Boat sitting in the stand if you turned the propeller it would almost come out of the stand. It does not even come close to that now. Today it ran 130F same temp as 45.7 run, but today water was smooth as glass. I do remember 1" chop on the 45.7 mph day. So that's my update not as bad as my bud's fried his Castle 60 amp ESC 1527 with 8s motor is real tight I am waiting to hear.
That's all tonight going to Evansville, IN @ 6.00 AM to watch some racing.
Mike

JrValente
09-07-2012, 09:42 PM
That sucks to hear Mike. How many runs do you think you had on the motor?

Mike Caruso
09-08-2012, 06:10 AM
That sucks to hear Mike. How many runs do you think you had on the motor?

20 runs max and looking back over my data the motor almost always runs 130F so I added that info in my post. Dang

Tom899
09-08-2012, 06:31 AM
Mike, your current speeds with the stock vs 45x68 prop are almost exactly what mine are (mine 35.8 and 40.4). If you do get it back up please let me know, I will do the same to mine.
Good luck and thanks,
Tom

Mike Caruso
09-08-2012, 10:20 PM
Mike, your current speeds with the stock vs 45x68 prop are almost exactly what mine are (mine 35.8 and 40.4). If you do get it back up please let me know, I will do the same to mine.
Good luck and thanks,
Tom

Hey Tom,
Just back from the races lots of great people from all over. I met David Hull very nice guy who had a 10s modified JAE boat racing for the first time. It ran great but hooked on the second lap and ended upside down. He had plenty of power and the twin and single Nitro and Gas guys where going to have there hands full LOL. He did say he just ran it setup for SAW and ran 103 mph. I had to leave before the next heat.

Maybe I was lucky running my boat on the first day as the water/weather conditions where perfect. The Revolt is a SOLID 38 MPH boat case closed!!!
Anything over 40 mph is a gift so if we all look at it this way a very hard boat to beat for the $$$$. Looking back on my first day of running 8.5.12 there was wind and the water had 1" chop but still the motor was singing 26,000. Like I said just running on the prop screaming. I am going to get a new 1800kv stock motor or the closest to the stock one so I can get back to solid 45's just because that is what I WANT. I will keep you posted.
Mike

Grimracer
09-10-2012, 01:55 PM
Hey Tom,
Just back from the races lots of great people from all over. I met David Hull very nice guy who had a 10s modified JAE boat racing for the first time. It ran great but hooked on the second lap and ended upside down. He had plenty of power and the twin and single Nitro and Gas guys where going to have there hands full LOL. He did say he just ran it setup for SAW and ran 103 mph. I had to leave before the next heat.

Maybe I was lucky running my boat on the first day as the water/weather conditions where perfect. The Revolt is a SOLID 38 MPH boat case closed!!!
Anything over 40 mph is a gift so if we all look at it this way a very hard boat to beat for the $$$$. Looking back on my first day of running 8.5.12 there was wind and the water had 1" chop but still the motor was singing 26,000. Like I said just running on the prop screaming. I am going to get a new 1800kv stock motor or the closest to the stock one so I can get back to solid 45's just because that is what I WANT. I will keep you posted.
Mike



Mike,

Looking back at my data this should not be case closed. Im not sure what might have happen to the system". I have dozens of runs up and over 40 MPH..

It just might be that Mike Ball has as much time as I do with a "production" systems Revolt and maybe he can chime in too.

The only thing I can think of is I like my boats looser then most.. not loose mind you but looser then most. Most people that drive my boats comment thats the case.

My 45X68 is good for passes in and around 43 to 45 mph lap after lap.

I think Brain B has also been able to get his boat in the mid 40 without this unknown loss of speed.

Im still trying to think what might be causing this. Im not going to make the race this weekend up at the Badgers but let me know what the other FE dudes have to say.. Maybe chat with Sean too!

Then.. have you contacted Product services to see if others have been having this issue. Call em.. Talk to Jack..Let em know your a racing bud of mine and lets see what they say.

Grim

Mike Caruso
09-10-2012, 07:12 PM
Mike,

Looking back at my data this should not be case closed. Im not sure what might have happen to the system". I have dozens of runs up and over 40 MPH..

It just might be that Mike Ball has as much time as I do with a "production" systems Revolt and maybe he can chime in too.

The only thing I can think of is I like my boats looser then most.. not loose mind you but looser then most. Most people that drive my boats comment thats the case.

My 45X68 is good for passes in and around 43 to 45 mph lap after lap.

I think Brain B has also been able to get his boat in the mid 40 without this unknown loss of speed.

Im still trying to think what might be causing this. Im not going to make the race this weekend up at the Badgers but let me know what the other FE dudes have to say.. Maybe chat with Sean too!

Then.. have you contacted Product services to see if others have been having this issue. Call em.. Talk to Jack..Let em know your a racing bud of mine and lets see what they say.

Grim

Hey Grim,
I will do it all Grim. Mine will still run 40+ with the 45x68 prop all day long what I meant to say is the boat is a solid 38 mph with prop it came with. I planned to try one more thing today but still recovering from Hobart seven hours on my feet is very long. Resting at home I thinking and thinking you know something stupid that I did. Well, after the first day in the water running 45.7 mph I thought I might add some foam pcs. under the deck plenty of room. I was just too tired today but here is what I have to do. Run the boat down load the data. Now pull out the foam which I hope made the front end too heavy killing the speed. One question where is the balance point from the transom? Brian B he is on here correct? I will call Jack tomorrow. I love this boat man! BOCA Ceramic Hybrid bearings arrived today but will wait until I get to the bottom of this mystery.
Yup two day race at our pond Badgers.
Mike

Tom899
09-11-2012, 05:47 AM
Hey Tom,
Just back from the races lots of great people from all over. I met David Hull very nice guy who had a 10s modified JAE boat racing for the first time. It ran great but hooked on the second lap and ended upside down. He had plenty of power and the twin and single Nitro and Gas guys where going to have there hands full LOL. He did say he just ran it setup for SAW and ran 103 mph. I had to leave before the next heat.

Maybe I was lucky running my boat on the first day as the water/weather conditions where perfect. The Revolt is a SOLID 38 MPH boat case closed!!!
Anything over 40 mph is a gift so if we all look at it this way a very hard boat to beat for the $$$$. Looking back on my first day of running 8.5.12 there was wind and the water had 1" chop but still the motor was singing 26,000. Like I said just running on the prop screaming. I am going to get a new 1800kv stock motor or the closest to the stock one so I can get back to solid 45's just because that is what I WANT. I will keep you posted.
Mike

Hi Mike,
Sounds like a good time at the races.

Thanks for all your feedback with your experiences and changes. I'm pretty happy with 41mph, although a few more mph wouldn't hurt. I might try a 4s battery instead of two 2s. At some point in the future I would like to get an adjustable ESC. It was just recommended for me to try a HobbyWing Seaking 90-amp. My current ESC works well but would like to raise the LVC and it is not adjustable.

Thanks,
Tom

Mike Caruso
09-11-2012, 09:39 AM
Hi Mike,
Sounds like a good time at the races.

Thanks for all your feedback with your experiences and changes. I'm pretty happy with 41mph, although a few more mph wouldn't hurt. I might try a 4s battery instead of two 2s. At some point in the future I would like to get an adjustable ESC. It was just recommended for me to try a HobbyWing Seaking 90-amp. My current ESC works well but would like to raise the LVC and it is not adjustable.


Thanks,
Tom

Hey Tom,
The older guys always helped me as a kid now I am the older guy 63 and believe in the big wheel theory what goes around comes around.
No problem you know we only go around once in this Great life, Like my Dad told me, you can be either part of the problem or part of the solution. He also told me all people are just people until they prove differently to you. If it has wheels or txt's you will have trouble with it. How right he was!!!! Mom Divorced him out of the blue when I was 11 Back to Boats Ha, I never ran my batteries down to bump or stutter Batteries 140F+ until chasing the missing mph. 41 mph is good but when in runs 44-46 mph it just dances on the the 45x68 prop and it is still very drivable it looks out of control and gets my heart racing. Makes me feel alive that's why I have to find it and get it back to 44-46 and I will leave the boat alone and start on my SAW boat. HobbyWing Seaking 90-amp as long as you can put 10 degree timing in the motor I guess it will be ok but I don't see a reason to spend more money on my boat. I get a good run time now. I think about the gas guys who tell me I can run 20 mins .....my arms will fall off LOL.
M

Tom899
09-12-2012, 05:25 AM
Hey Tom,
The older guys always helped me as a kid now I am the older guy 63 and believe in the big wheel theory what goes around comes around.
No problem you know we only go around once in this Great life, Like my Dad told me, you can be either part of the problem or part of the solution. He also told me all people are just people until they prove differently to you. If it has wheels or txt's you will have trouble with it. How right he was!!!! Mom Divorced him out of the blue when I was 11 Back to Boats Ha, I never ran my batteries down to bump or stutter Batteries 140F+ until chasing the missing mph. 41 mph is good but when in runs 44-46 mph it just dances on the the 45x68 prop and it is still very drivable it looks out of control and gets my heart racing. Makes me feel alive that's why I have to find it and get it back to 44-46 and I will leave the boat alone and start on my SAW boat. HobbyWing Seaking 90-amp as long as you can put 10 degree timing in the motor I guess it will be ok but I don't see a reason to spend more money on my boat. I get a good run time now. I think about the gas guys who tell me I can run 20 mins .....my arms will fall off LOL.
M
Mike, I'm right there with you, working on 61 and always eager to share what I know with everyone.

Here are the available timing's for the HobbyWing Seaking 90-amp.
Timing 0.00° 3.75° 7.50° 11.25° 15.00° 18.75° 22.50° 26.25°
Will any of these work?
Here's the Manual. Please take a look: http://www.hobbywing.com/uploadfiles/sx/file/Manual/HW-15.pdf

Mike Caruso
09-12-2012, 09:39 AM
Mike, I'm right there with you, working on 61 and always eager to share what I know with everyone.

Here are the available timing's for the HobbyWing Seaking 90-amp.
Timing 0.00° 3.75° 7.50° 11.25° 15.00° 18.75° 22.50° 26.25°
Will any of these work?
Here's the Manual. Please take a look: http://www.hobbywing.com/uploadfiles/sx/file/Manual/HW-15.pdf

Looks pretty good and you can chose the motor timing I did not know that. In the rc car I played with too much timing hurt top end and made more heat. It's the sweet spot as with everything in life.

Tom899
09-14-2012, 05:48 AM
I ran last night with both my batteries stacked in the middle, I like it! Hardly no chine walking and handled very well. I think next time I buy batteries I will get 4s instead of two 2s

Mike Caruso
09-14-2012, 10:41 PM
I ran last night with both my batteries stacked in the middle, I like it! Hardly no chine walking and handled very well. I think next time I buy batteries I will get 4s instead of two 2s

Cool. I would either buy another Grim 4s or Hyperion 4s. I ran other brands and these two run identical even though the Hyperion were 2s and I did the same as you stuck them in the middle on they sides. 4S is nice because of weight move it 1/2 either way and it makes a change to the running of the boat.

stumblinh
09-15-2012, 12:21 PM
You guys should give the zippy compact 4s 35c 3300mAH packs, get two of these run in parallel in the bottom position (they fit perfect side x side) they combine to 6600mAH, 70c and easily handle the load even with a bigger prop. These packs are a great value, you can't go wrong iMO. I've used lipo's for many years, these packs in this config hold out better than most single 4s packs on the market, PS they come stock w/ 5.5 bullets which is nice too..

Linky.. load it wait a few minutes and they offer a slightly lower price as well. USA Warehouse LINK (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=24646) -------- and the International Linky (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=21404)

gyrotron
09-15-2012, 12:28 PM
Cool. I would either buy another Grim 4s or Hyperion 4s. I ran other brands and these two run identical even though the Hyperion were 2s and I did the same as you stuck them in the middle on they sides. 4S is nice because of weight move it 1/2 either way and it makes a change to the running of the boat.
Mike,

I am running these and I am very happy with its performance. I guess the price is good too. I found this provider online and have been buying batteries from them since then.

http://www.valuehobby.com/power-systems/lipo-batteries/4s-lipo/gforce-elite-series-40c-5000mah-4s-14-8v-lipo.html

Cheers

Mike Caruso
09-15-2012, 09:26 PM
You guys should give the zippy compact 4s 35c 3300mAH packs, get two of these run in parallel in the bottom position (they fit perfect side x side) they combine to 6600mAH, 70c and easily handle the load even with a bigger prop. These packs are a great value, you can't go wrong iMO. I've used lipo's for many years, these packs in this config hold out better than most single 4s packs on the market, PS they come stock w/ 5.5 bullets which is nice too..

Linky.. load it wait a few minutes and they offer a slightly lower price as well. USA Warehouse LINK (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=24646) -------- and the International Linky (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=21404)

WOW thanks every little bit saved helps me out.
Mike

Mike Caruso
09-15-2012, 09:30 PM
Mike,

I am running these and I am very happy with its performance. I guess the price is good too. I found this provider online and have been buying batteries from them since then.

http://www.valuehobby.com/power-systems/lipo-batteries/4s-lipo/gforce-elite-series-40c-5000mah-4s-14-8v-lipo.html

Cheers

WOW again you guys are great I am humbled by all the help I have received since joining this OSE Form. I buy from OSE when ever I can Steve works his bottom off all the time.
Mike

gyrotron
09-15-2012, 09:34 PM
WOW again you guys are great I am humbled by all the help I have received since joining this OSE Form. I buy from OSE when ever I can Steve works his bottom off all the time.
Mike
Mike,

Same battery specs here from the people I buy ($17.99 hard to beat are they are US based)

http://www.valuehobby.com/power-systems/lipo-batteries/gforce-40c-3300mah-2s-7-4v-lipo.html