Fighter Cat Racing Close UP?

[roadrashracing]

I was going to order some stuff and got this on the homepage:

WE ARE CLOSED UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE

[marko500]

Read this thread. http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/showthread.php?35952-Whats-up-at-FC

[jcald2000]

Fighter Cat is now open!!!

[gb tiggycat]

The front page has the comment " Under new management"

Does that mean that Ben has given it up?

[osprey21]

n-m

[LOVE6S]

He has left the company.

[tiqueman]

Yes he has

http://fightercat57.freeforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=938

[carlcisneros]

Tiqueman

not to worry buddy


am just the humble moderator of the FC forum is all. :biggrin:

[Steven Vaccaro]

Carl who tossed me as a forum member?

[carlcisneros]

that is a good question Steve.

Didnt even know you were tossed.

Got me on that one.

[Steven Vaccaro]

Not a problem.

Just funny, hundreds of links back to Fc are left on this forum, I add a link back to OSE on the FC forum and get a "Dick" comment then booted.

[carlcisneros]

HUH?

oh, brother.........

[Make-a-Wake]

Wonder what happens to all the folks and their hundreds of dollars worth of orders each, that have no idea where their money is, or their purchased product, or if they will ever see a dime of it back.................and cant even find out due to no response of their valid email questions.:huh:

[Nosbig]

I just emailed them too, not that I expect a response or anything.
One thing is for sure, I'm not spending money with them again, I believe a mass boycott is in order.
Steven, I think Ben was joking around when he said you can be a dick over at OSE, referring to this: http://fightercatracing.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=140:res-secret-to-our-success&catid=36:resource-articles&Itemid=58

[Basstronics]

Seriously?

Some people need to grow the F up.

Im not even going to put that new FC motor mount into my Osprey. I wouldnt want any association with a company that openly posts crap like that.

[Basstronics]

Yanno I just read Bens posts about Steve and OSE.

I went from feeling bad about what happened to him to being OK with it.

He has one hell of a chip on his shoulder. If thats the "true" Ben then FighterCat will be much better off without him. Maybe it wasnt the "dipshiit" employee who was the "problem".

[srislash]

Wonder what happens to all the folks and their hundreds of dollars worth of orders each, that have no idea where their money is, or their purchased product, or if they will ever see a dime of it back.................and cant even find out due to no response of their valid email questions.:huh:I guess I'll let you know in a week or so.I purchased motors(4) and an ESC as well as other things that Ben was stockpiling to ship to me.I have not heard whether it was shipped or not in the midst of this fiasco.So I will give it a week to arrive before I make a decision and take alternate measures.

[Steven Vaccaro]

Steven, I think Ben was joking around when he said you can be a dick over at OSE, referring to this: http://fightercatracing.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=140:res-secret-to-our-success&catid=36:resource-articles&Itemid=58

I'm sure Ben was joking. But for some reason it was followed by my prompt ban of my user name on the FC forum.

[CornelP]

Yes he has

http://fightercat57.freeforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=938

I posted an answer earlier today and now the topic does not exist anymore... nice touch!

[Basstronics]

Steve,

Do not kid yourself this is not a joke.

[JimClark]

real classy

[Fluid]

It also begs the question - if Ben left yesterday and someone else controls the site, do we even know who actually wrote the post under Ben's name above? My advice: run - don't walk - away until all is made clear by posts we know to be made by Ben on a site other than FC.... A sad mess indeed.


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[Make-a-Wake]

My advice: run - don't walk - away until all is made clear by posts we know to be made by Ben on a site other than FC.... A sad mess indeed.


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Yep, no one really knows who made those comments under his "handle"..................... anyone can sit at the keyboard in this cyberworld.

[Steven Vaccaro]

Steve,

Do not kid yourself this is not a joke.

He can say what he wants. OSE is still running after about 10 years. He couldn't run his business past a few. Running a business takes more than a desire for money. It takes a love of what you do.

I wasnt going to get into this, but since he's tossed some stones at me, here goes.

Please explain to me this, how does he get tossed out of his own business IN HIS OWN BACKYARD?

Here is the infamous "WAREHOUSE" we all here about.
http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/showthread.php?29978-Breaking-Ground-on-the-new-FighterCat-Lair!&highlight=

If you ask me, thats a garage. No different than the rest of us home business owners.

[Basstronics]

I sincerely hope it was not Ben who made those comments.

Ive had some emails back and forth with Ben and Ive always taken away he is a non-nonsense guy. By his posts I can tell he doesnt like to get jerked around, which is understandable.

Hopefully there is some closure in the near future.

So much for this statement on FC website:

PSA - Offshore Electrics, HOR, Kintec and the like aren't competitors, they are comerades. We're all in this to bring the coolest stuff to FE boating.

[Basstronics]

ROFL that would be odd!

Hearing a car door slam in the morning and your ex-coworkers walk by your bedroom window on their way to work at their business, in your back yard... lol

[Make-a-Wake]

I'm really torn about all of this................two sides of everything on this deal, some good, some not, some possible here-say, some possible posting under anothers username................etc etc.............. and as upset as I was at Ben for the ESC fiasco that cost me hundreds only to have nothing to show for it, i still feel bad for him if his "Dream" bit the dust. I dont know if he was the original owner and was bought/forced out by partners, but I know this much..............whoever is 'running' it now is HIGHLY slacking in correspondence to those who have PAID them their hard earned money and are hanging on the skinny part of the branch wondering if they will ever see their merchandise or $$ back........................sad deal altogether. I would recommend that no-one buy anything else til its sorted out....................

Maybe we can all find somewhere else to buy great RC boat products, with fair prices, quick shipping, great communication and a very hands-on owner who even takes the time to reply to some of my dummer questions.................

OH....................we have that!!!! OSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :banana:

PS - Steven, my Mini Sniper is almost ready to get wet! Very cool little boat, check out the thread!!

[stadiumyamaha]

I never did see what the big deal about FC was.
So they take hulls and other parts that are already on the market and put the new name on it. That's called private labeling. Nothing wrong with it but nothing ground breaking either.
I don't think we're missing much guys.

[T.S.Davis]

Seriously Steven, anyone having a beef with you baffles my mind. Maybe there's some dark spooky side of you I missed in the last 10 years. I remember you from the red boards before there was an OSE. Then there was a list of links. Then the forum. Then the store. I think that was the order. You haven't changed a bit as far as I can tell. I'll vouch for you any time.

This whole FC thing is a real disappointment. Weather Ben has lost his gourde or the new guys are out of control it sucks either way. It's not just the money I may be out. There aren't that many companies that dabble in FE boats. This is just another black eye for us. I hate it.

[Punisher 67]

This is really disapointing to hear , I have delt with Steven and Ben and have always gotten first rate service - sad to see things come to this . Jeez Ben hit it out of the park with his ESC's loosing those will be a disapointment for me .

[sundog]

"I haven't run Fightercat Racing since May..... and haven't owned it for more than a year"

This just doesn't sound like Bens' style to me. I have a feeling his 'comrades' are speaking for him here. At least, I hope that's the case. Give it some time, the truth will filter in. It's unfortunate for all this to have happened, to be sure. It doesn't bode well for the present 'owners'.

[Chrisg81983]

Man I was going to put in a serious order into fc a few weeks ago I figured I would give his products a shot but was sending him emails asking some questions and got no response. I am glad I didn't place it and will always remain here at OSE for these simple reasons. So i won't be missing much anyways with him gone.

[T.S.Davis]

Guys, I had a conversation with someone from FighterCat this morning. There is turmoil and friction within. Some of the nonsense we've seen on the web is based on that friction. The source of that nonsense isn't for me to say. One dissatisfied person trying to injure the other. With that, I "think" throwing in the towel on the whole FC company may be premature. They are trying to make it right. At least by me they are.

Think of it as a restructuring. Wait....a race analogy. You know when you spin out and have to get back up on plane? You have to get the prop to hook up again. Kinda like that. Lot's of splashing and noise but you're not really moving.....yet.

So those of you with the "we'll see" thinking are probably spot on.

[Nosbig]

How did you get to have a conversation with them?
I'm sure they're swamped trying to get going again but did they talk about when they will be answering emails/ shipping orders again?

[roadrashracing]

Under new management, welcome Kevin G, our new Store Manager!

[Basstronics]

Despite the waves, whomever is ultimately is in control really dropped the ball.

The website and forum should of been better protected. This situation could of went over much smoother that way.

Hopefully these wrongs can be righted and we can all go back to a positive point.

[T.S.Davis]

Kevin called me personally. The FC stock is not in Ben's back yard by the way.

Sounds like there's still some hurdles for them to cross before they'll have it straight. I didn't pry super hard into exactly what the problem was/is. Didn't feel like that was my business really.

My perception is that there was a falling out. Who's at fault, what happened between partners? Not sure I care. All that really matters to me as a customer is "Will they make it right?" I feel like they will but again, we'll see.

[Basstronics]

That is good. I watched a business go thru this from the employee stand point. It wasn't fun for any of us.

Perfect example why to never have a business partner.

[T.S.Davis]

I suspect there would/could be issues with access to pay-pal too. Speculation on my part but it would make sense if there was a tear in the FC space time continuum so to speak. If they relied on pay-pal for shipping it could have really screwed them up.

[Rumdog]

Looks like Bens personal email was hacked, too. Got some spam from him today.

[Basstronics]

Hacked email? Thats laughable. All this hacking stuff is laughable.

Ive seen the "I was hacked" excuse in court. The Judge even had a grin when the defense was presenting that part of the case... lol

Im just sure theres a ton of hackers that really want Bens email. :bash:

[Steven Vaccaro]

I also got those emails.

Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2

[Rumdog]

so, you think I'm lying dude? It was hacked. Plain and simple.

[egneg]

I can't get in anymore - says my user name is wrong. Funny thing is I had it stored on my PC along with the original email detailing the info.

[JimClark]

play civil boy's

[cybercrxt]

Well, all i know is a 2-8s 240a esc and programmer were paid for by me and Ben was suppose to send my Neu 1521 1y motor back with that order after having it over 3 months of supposed "testing" with their controllers. I have emailed the old address and new address, neither of which i have received a reply. As soon as i get home i plan on doing a claim with paypal. I am starting to feel like my new Neu has been stolen from me with no chance of getting it back at this point. This is starting to remind me of twisted liquid racing. I will be sure fightercat, new owner or not gets a bad rep if i do not get my money or parts. Not very pleased right now if you cannot tell. Mike, ML Boatworks

[LOVE6S]

Well, all i know is a 2-8s 240a esc and programmer were paid for by me and Ben was suppose to send my Neu 1521 1y motor back with that order after having it over 3 months of supposed "testing" with their controllers. I have emailed the old address and new address, neither of which i have received a reply. As soon as i get home i plan on doing a claim with paypal. I am starting to feel like my new Neu has been stolen from me with no chance of getting it back at this point. This is starting to remind me of twisted liquid racing. I will be sure fightercat, new owner or not gets a bad rep if i do not get my money or parts. Not very pleased right now if you cannot tell. Mike, ML Boatworks Are these people just plain crazy, if they dont fix all this messed up stuff and do it NOW, who in their rite mind, would, or will, give them a cent of the hard earned money, they must just not care???

[Alexgar]

Either that or they will make it so cheap no one cares kinda like hobbykings poor service and shipping

[Basstronics]

so, you think I'm lying dude? It was hacked. Plain and simple.

No, I dont think you are lying.

I do find it AWFULY funny how all the sudden his email gets "hacked" in the midst of this BS fest. Thats all.

How long has that email been active? And now out of the blue...

Its common place in the cyber world to claim "I was hacked" to cover tracks of this or that.

[jj2003]

:popcorn2:

[tiqueman]

Despite the waves, whomever is ultimately is in control really dropped the ball.

The website and forum should of been better protected. This situation could of went over much another that way.

Hopefully these wrongs can be righted and we can all go back to a positive point.

well said Bass.

As for hacking emails, I got that too, however i dont find it "out of the blue" or unusual etc etc. I get hacked emails from a lot of forum members who have my email address... at least 1 or 2 a week.

[JimClark]

as far as the phone goes if it was a company phone then Ben may not have it any more and if it wasn't passworded then who ever has it could easily send messages or emails

[jj2003]

Looks like Bens personal email was hacked, too. Got some spam from him today.

As an employee of a major internet provider, I can vouch that hacked email's are more common than anyone can imagine. 20% of inbound calls deal with email issue's and 10% of those deal with security issue's or breached email account's. Regardless of what people see in courts or what a judge believes or even what is reported in the media, if your not in the thick of it, then you are simply speculating.

[Doug Smock]

Not a problem.

Just funny, hundreds of links back to Fc are left on this forum, I add a link back to OSE on the FC forum and get a "Dick" comment then booted.

Perhaps it's time for a new policy here on OSE.
D.

[cybercrxt]

All of that hacked email stuff is good and well, but i have emailed both email addresses and have a tracking number for something that was never dropped off. Im out $400 right now and very much pissed. They have not even replied to a paypal claim.....just what ahould that tell you. Mike

[ron1950]

:popcorn2::popcorn2:

[jj2003]

All of that hacked email stuff is good and well, but i have emailed both email addresses and have a tracking number for something that was never dropped off. Im out $400 right now and very much pissed. They have not even replied to a paypal claim.....just what ahould that tell you. Mike I hear ya Mike. I would be in the same state of mind. I surely can't say that a hacked email is the case, in fact I doubt it but I feel as though his email has been taken over by the "new management" and they are not responding accordingly. I sent an email to Ben 2 weeks ago with no response.

[T.S.Davis]

My email was hacked before. Not sure what the purpose of that is. Send random crap and viagra websites from my address does what........? Pisses off everyone in my address book. That's all I could ever come up with. The timing is suspect to have been hacked though.

Mike, if you sent a motor to Ben he probably still has it. If Ben and the "new management" aren't on speaking terms (and I don't have that information either) it will be hard for them to get him to send your gear back. Then if Ben is pissed at them and knows they'll get the heat for your missing gear and money.................... Not saying that absolutely Ben is at fault or even for sure that they're not communicating but after a falling out of sorts it seems plausable. Doesn't help you I know. Sucks.

It's a mess for sure. Hope they get their poop in a group before the damage is beyond repair.

[Doug Smock]

It's a mess for sure. Hope they get their poop in a group before the damage is beyond repair.

:iagree:
D.

[Brushless55]

Perhaps it's time for a new policy here on OSE.
D.

:iagree:

[Steven Vaccaro]

Perhaps it's time for a new policy here on OSE.
D.

My main goal has always been to better the hobby (Dont get me wrong, making a living is also part of that). So I don't want to stifle advancements. Fightercat has some cool hulls, if they choose to come back down to Earth, remove the trash and apologize for their mistakes I will continue to allow links to non-competing products.

[backbayboy]

Well said Steven and fair IMO

[T.S.Davis]

I re-read what I posted. I don't mean to make excuses for the situation. Sure reads that way though. I'm not going out on a limb and vouch for FC. I guess I just can understand how it goes from messed up to bad to WTF! There's human beings on the other end of that mess. Takes time. Especially if they're still in the midst of an internal disspute...............doing it again. Dang. Sorry guys.

Yep. Sucks. Think we've established that.

[photohoward1]

Has anyone noticed he double the price of his controllers? At least the 140amp one. I liked his stuff but it's hard to buy anything from a company that does not respond to anything. I buy most of my stuff from. OSE. The only time I don't is if Steve doesn't have it or carry it.

[Rocstar]

...

[Chrisg81983]

I noticed the same thing Howard I never bought one thing from fc for several reasons I get my parts from two places here at ose and from Manuel ( he helps me out quite often )

[Rocstar]

Has anyone noticed he double the price of his controllers? At least the 140amp one. I liked his stuff but it's hard to buy anything from a company that does not respond to anything. I buy most of my stuff from. OSE. The only time I don't is if Steve doesn't have it or carry it.

Still reads $96.00 on my computer...?

[Doug Smock]

My main goal has always been to better the hobby (Dont get me wrong, making a living is also part of that). So I don't want to stifle advancements. Fightercat has some cool hulls, if they choose to come back down to Earth, remove the trash and apologize for their mistakes I will continue to allow links to non-competing products.
That's exactly what we'd expect from you Steven.
D.

[T.S.Davis]

I've always tried to spread my spending around. I have a couple LHS that I try to support. Heck, one store stocks hughey and octura parts. Gotta keepthem going. There are few I wont buy from. It's a short list. FC wasn't on that list for me.

[Chrisg81983]

That was my main goal as well but over the years I weeded out the bad and stuck with the good. Sometime back I tried to order from fc a few times as I found some of his products to be very cool but when I tried to contact ben and ask him a few questions he didnt respond. weeks went by n I decided to try one final time again with no response so I sent him a final email kindly stating why he lost just under a 2000 order. He soon replied back with some smart comments while being real nasty as well. After that episode I decided to put him on the DON'T support list

[LOVE6S]

I was too was thinking of dumping a 1000 or so on a build and asked when the 110 mm 3/16 stingers were going to be back in stock. and never got a reply back, oh well. I have placed small orders in the past with no problem, but if your gona do build and need to talk or email and cant do it, thats a problem, OSE and KINTEC, have gotten back in 24 hours every time. I like some of FC"s products, but will need to see some more improvment before I spend any big money there, for now its OSE and KINTEC for me.

[xlandguy]

Steve, you got a guy asking about the Pursuit mono kits in the FS forum. I am waiting on the answer there too :confused1: Last you said anything there was like mid June.

[iridebikes247]

Its a real shame that this happened to Fightercat but business is business. In lieu of everything that has happened over at Fightercat I feel it is important to extend my gratification to Steve here running OSE. I am in NY which isn't very far from Mass where OSE is located but Steve manages to get my products out to me within a two day window regardless of when I place my order. I have placed multiple orders with OSE and will continue to do so as the customer service is unheard of in the hobby. Fantastic is the only word I would use to describe all experiences with OSE. I really find it odd that Ben at FC would say ANYTHING negative as he was a member on the forum and seemingly a nice guy so I hope all is well for him. If FC dissolves and becomes nothing at all so be it (although I was looking forward to these escs with data logging), I think now more than ever we need to appreciate our forum as this is the one we're all posting on and we should remember that at OSE we're friendly to all members and business can be conducted as well. Its rare for anyone in any particular hobby to find a place like this and I think we need to appreciate what we have here. For those of you who have decided to make claims with paypal I would have done the same thing and I hope you recover anything you've lost. Thanks Steve, the big order I placed arrived on time and the twin leopard 4082s make my 41" cat an absolute powerhouse and you made my day by shipping them when you did. I hope this post fuels your passion to give back to the customers in a way and also yourself.

[Diegoboy]

I am so glad I never bought into the FC fad. If it survives by some kind of miracle (or the groupies) I still choose not to "buy in"
If you did and/or will, more power to you!

[Brushless55]

I am so glad I never bought into the FC fad. If it survives by some kind of miracle (or the groupies) I still choose not to "buy in"
If you did and/or will, more power to you!

Pat on the back to you bro! :thumbup1:

all this crap I keep reading just goes to show me personally how much more I appreciate OSE and all the friends I now have because of these forums..
STEVEN kicks A$$ :rockon2:

[keithbradley]

I am so glad I never bought into the FC fad. If it survives by some kind of miracle (or the groupies) I still choose not to "buy in"
If you did and/or will, more power to you!

You missed out on a lot of cool stuff. I have built some pretty sweet boats with Fighter Cat hulls. I'm glad I didn't have whatever personal issues you had, as a lot of good came out of FC, regardless of where it ends up.

It will be a shame if something doesn't turn around quickly. We are limited in resources for FE boating and I don't see the benefit in another retailer that isn't trustworthy. We already have one of those. Hopefully FC doesn't turn into another FD.
Steve and Jim W are in a league of their own when it comes to customer service in the FE world. We could use a few more like them.

[Chilli]

Well said! :thumbup1:

[driftah]

+1 for steve I just recieved an order today with zero issues and will continue to order from a great store with a kik arse forum,thx again

[LOVE6S]

I think FC has some really good stuff at a good price, as I said in a earyer post I have bought small orders from them with no probems at all, but lack of comunication between buyer and seller is a big problem to me, and my only real bitch with them, its nice to have a few choices of what to buy and where to get it. That being said, I have had 100% positive exp with OSE and Kintec also, its nice to get these parts the rite parts in the USA and in a couple days, I hope this mess sorts itself out, if FC wantd to stay in the game they better step up to the plate and do it soon,
You missed out on a lot of cool stuff. I have built some pretty sweet boats with Fighter Cat hulls. I'm glad I didn't have whatever personal issues you had, as a lot of good came out of FC, regardless of where it ends up.

It will be a shame if something doesn't turn around quickly. We are limited in resources for FE boating and I don't see the benefit in another retailer that isn't trustworthy. We already have one of those. Hopefully FC doesn't turn into another FD.
Steve and Jim W are in a league of their own when it comes to customer service in the FE world. We could use a few more like them.

[cybercrxt]

Update:

Ok, so I received an email from Jason at fightercat asking if this was a personal transaction that Ben and I had made for the ESC and programmer, which it was as Ben and I had developed a close enough working relationship that I didn't bother using the website to order much anymore as Ben would handle that directly. Jason also said he was going to contact Ben regarding the missing 1521 Neu. Hopefully he will find something out with that.

Now, I do not know who did the refund, Ben or Jason, but I was refunded the money I paid the fightercat paypal address. Jason did not say if he did the refund due to paypal claim, or if Ben did it due to it possibly affecting him personally (that is if the fightercat57@gmail.com was Ben's personal email/paypal...that is unclear to me)

None the less, it sounds like this Jason guy wants to get this right. I hope that truely is the case, and I can have good things to say in the future. I don't know what happened to this company, but boy what a twisted mess!

Mike

[jj2003]

That's great to hear Mike! Maybe there is a small chance that the company will survive if all is righted. Jason sounds like an outstanding employee/employer, who knows what his position is in the company at this point, but I guess that point is moot as long as you have been refunded. Now to get the motor back is the next step and I think once we see that it will restore some trust in all of us who invested in the upbringing. Hopefully so ;)

[Cooper]

one thing i would like to know is what is going on with the esc's? i know ben was wrighting the code for the esc's and programing. i was eager to see the data logging hv speedo. but by the sounds of it i think the esc line at fightercat is no loger.

[RandyatBBY]

You missed out on a lot of cool stuff. I have built some pretty sweet boats with Fighter Cat hulls. I'm glad I didn't have whatever personal issues you had, as a lot of good came out of FC, regardless of where it ends up.

It will be a shame if something doesn't turn around quickly. We are limited in resources for FE boating and I don't see the benefit in another retailer that isn't trustworthy. We already have one of those. Hopefully FC doesn't turn into another FD.
Steve and Jim W are in a league of their own when it comes to customer service in the FE world. We could use a few more like them.

Well put. You have to have tough skin some times dealing with people, Other times I can not believe how great my friends/customers are.

[Basstronics]

Well it really sounds like FC Business is stepping up to the plate. I guess that leaves one to draw a conclusion on who was doing what...

[b20btec]

Well in light of everything that was happening after getting email response from Kevin - Shipping Manager, I went ahead and ordered a part. FC were the only people stateside that had it, order was under a 100.00 bucks I figure if I don't get it within two weeks I can always file a pp claim. I'm not too worried if I receive it or not. When Ben was involved he never did me wrong, neither did FC as a company.

[tiqueman]

Well in light of everything that was happening after getting email response from Kevin - Shipping Manager, I went ahead and ordered a part. FC were the only people stateside that had it, order was under a 100.00 bucks I figure if I don't get it within two weeks I can always file a pp claim. I'm not too worried if I receive it or not. When Ben was involved he never did me wrong, neither did FC as a company.

I ordered a small order Saturday night and it showed up today. I had tracking info Monday. I wouldnt sweat it.

[tiqueman]

I guess I'll let you know in a week or so.I purchased motors(4) and an ESC as well as other things that Ben was stockpiling to ship to me.I have not heard whether it was shipped or not in the midst of this fiasco.So I will give it a week to arrive before I make a decision and take alternate measures.

Shawn, its in route :spy:

[srislash]

I got shipping info today guys and it should be everything.I also had personal dealings with Ben for a few items.I have also had good communication from Kevin as well in regards to this as of yesterday.

Thanks Scott.

[Nosbig]

What numbers are your orders? I'm #1369 and I'm wondering if I'm just in line to get shipped or if I was forgotten about.

[srislash]

Mine was 1359 but I had stuff from Ben from his own stock/stuff.

[cybercrxt]

Got word the motor was shipped last night, and the tracking number shows there is a package on its way. So they have refunded me the money on the ESC/ Programmer, and now it looks like the motor situation is being properly handled. I now just hope they get everything else squared away, and get their controller lineup back. I would probably give them another order once things look settled. Mike

[Nosbig]

My order was shipped today, haven't checked my email yet but I might have an email also.
Edit: I looked at the order on FC again and it looked like the price had changed. I looked into the order and there was a 37$ discount. I haven't received any money back yet and the payment in paypal still shows the original price, I'll ask them about what's going on and if I'm getting money back or what's going on.

[Cooper]

orders aregoing out and almost all things have been rectified. fc has had some challenges lately but i do beleve everything is resolved. it would be nice to see ben back and maby we will. they just got everything into the new warehouse not a garage, and it takes time effort and lots of hard work, stocking , bar codeing, computer system, shipping ,,,all that stuff we dont see and then make it work. the stock will be more and the store has probably grown about 300percent. the controllers will be back and hopefuly we will see the dataloggers soon. kevin is working very hard trying to right the wrongs and work out all the confusions. if people had personal business with ben, that will have to wait till he is ready to take care of that, not fightercat. we cant afford to loose any of our suppliers because our hobby is pretty specialized and there arnt too many choices, ose is a good one and sometimes steve doesnt have that odd part that someone else does. hats off to ose and steve too. but as a consumer in this hobby i will be looking foreward to seeing many more unique products and im sure kevin and everone else is under alot of pressure and working hard.

[Rocstar]

orders aregoing out and almost all things have been rectified. fc has had some challenges lately but i do beleve everything is resolved. it would be nice to see ben back and maby we will. they just got everything into the new warehouse not a garage, and it takes time effort and lots of hard work, stocking , bar codeing, computer system, shipping ,,,all that stuff we dont see and then make it work. the stock will be more and the store has probably grown about 300percent. the controllers will be back and hopefuly we will see the dataloggers soon. kevin is working very hard trying to right the wrongs and work out all the confusions. if people had personal business with ben, that will have to wait till he is ready to take care of that, not fightercat. we cant afford to loose any of our suppliers because our hobby is pretty specialized and there arnt too many choices, ose is a good one and sometimes steve doesnt have that odd part that someone else does. hats off to ose and steve too. but as a consumer in this hobby i will be looking foreward to seeing many more unique products and im sure kevin and everone else is under alot of pressure and working hard.

Did you have a conversation with them?

[Brushless55]

orders aregoing out and almost all things have been rectified. fc has had some challenges lately but i do beleve everything is resolved. it would be nice to see ben back and maby we will. they just got everything into the new warehouse not a garage, and it takes time effort and lots of hard work, stocking , bar codeing, computer system, shipping ,,,all that stuff we dont see and then make it work. the stock will be more and the store has probably grown about 300percent. the controllers will be back and hopefuly we will see the dataloggers soon. kevin is working very hard trying to right the wrongs and work out all the confusions. if people had personal business with ben, that will have to wait till he is ready to take care of that, not fightercat. we cant afford to loose any of our suppliers because our hobby is pretty specialized and there arnt too many choices, ose is a good one and sometimes steve doesnt have that odd part that someone else does. hats off to ose and steve too. but as a consumer in this hobby i will be looking foreward to seeing many more unique products and im sure kevin and everone else is under alot of pressure and working hard.

hmmmm... spoken like a FC employee... :confused1:

[Nosbig]

Agreed, he also wrote a big paragraph with similar ideas on the FC forum.

[Fluid]

I certainly wish that we could hear from actual FC management. Why are they hiding? And who the heck is "Cooper? He didn't even use a real name when he registered - aren't we all supposed to use our real names? Please FC, give us something official - instead of letting us guess, or instead of using shills.... :sneaky2:



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[Nosbig]

Cooper has been on the FC forum for a while now, he doesn't post much but I wouldn't exactly call him sketchy, yet.
We definitely need a public announcement by one of the management, no excuses. We all understand if you're busy getting things filled but don't start bashing others and it's well worth the 20 minutes it takes to register on OSE, write a big post explaining everything and stop people from worrying.

[Fluid]

I don't know if he's sketchy or not, but he has given us no reason to believe what he says - did it come from the FC management, is it a guess on his part, did he read it on RC Universe? No clue. Just too much BS involved with this whole FC mess. When will it end? How will it end? "Stand by for an update".....yeah.
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[gb tiggycat]

I don't know if he's sketchy or not, but he has given us no reason to believe what he says - did it come from the FC management, is it a guess on his part, did he read it on RC Universe? No clue. Just too much BS involved with this whole FC mess. When will it end? How will it end? "Stand by for an update".....yeah.
.

At this moment in time, no reason to disbelieve him either.

[Diegoboy]

http://www.talkbaja.com/images/smilies/popcorn%20(2).gif

[Make-a-Wake]

I think FC is peeking at these threads and is allowing everyone to keep the drama going...................cant hurt 'em at this point, they can only go up from here.

As far as this "Cooper" member, he does need to answer as to where he got his info and not just throw very specific statements out there without a source, not many folks here really "know" much of him I guess. He seems to be a regular "Joe" like the rest of us based on this post I found from him............he does/did have $$ caught up in the mess:

"So what about the orders pending? Anyone get anything back?, money refund order shipped? I have two motors that got mixed up in an order before all this and now I don't know what to do? Dispute with PayPal?"

Please reply Cooper:Peace_Sign:

[keithbradley]

I certainly wish that we could hear from actual FC management. Why are they hiding? And who the heck is "Cooper? He didn't even use a real name when he registered - aren't we all supposed to use our real names? Please FC, give us something official - instead of letting us guess, or instead of using shills.... :sneaky2:



.
It sounds like Fighter Cat is getting orders shipped out and will likely make good on orders taken (Is there anyone here that has an order that hasn't been addressed?) but I agree with fluid in that FC should make a statement.

I did receive a package today from Ben with some controllers I ordered. I don't have anything coming from Fighter Cat at the time, so I'm all caught up.

[keithbradley]

http://www.talkbaja.com/images/smilies/popcorn%20(2).gif
Is he drinking milk with popcorn??? Odd choice...

[Diegoboy]

lol. Ya I like milk with italian food. Is that odd?

[Cooper]

Ok, yes I had a conversation with Kevin, my name is Ralph ford I live in watsontown pa, I had an order before all this bs at fc started. I basically hounded whoever at fc and ended up talking to Kevin. And after a long conversation I am saying that I will purchase product from them. And it sounds like Ben has some explaining to do. I understand his stance as well as everyone else at fc. I'm not an employee just a customer. I'm not sketchy either! I say what I mean and mean what I say, if anyone has a problem with that I'll give you my number or address and I'll state my opinion! Honest and appreciative
Of what we have here, ose, Steve is great and I'm not a ose employee! And fc will be great in the near
Future. Sounds like they have some work ahead but I feel I'm not at liberty to say as it doesn't concern you, as all but two order have been rectified. And I am one of those two! So recap I'm not fc employee just a simple customer and yes I think that they ,management , should say something on here but by my conversation not much time. And I believe that some of the posts were made under false pretences. (hacking ) whatever, angry. ...

[Rocstar]

as all but two order have been rectified. And I am one of those two!
Then I guess I'm the last one??

[Cooper]

Then I guess I'm the last one??
R u the one with $37 or whatever?

[keithbradley]

lol. Ya I like milk with italian food. Is that odd?
It's good with Basgetti...not so much popcorn though!

[dana]

Popcorn is native American no?

[Cooper]

I don't know if he's sketchy or not, but he has given us no reason to believe what he says - did it come from the FC management, is it a guess on his part, did he read it on RC Universe? No clue. Just too much BS involved with this whole FC mess. When will it end? How will it end? "Stand by for an update".....yeah.
.
It's ended order parts if u want in not don't , I'm nobody just like you, a customer

[Nosbig]

R u the one with $37 or whatever?
Are you talking about the 37$ discount? That was me. My order has been shipped but when they shipped it they put on a discount and then didn't pay me. I'm not complaining that they didn't pay me I'm just stating the facts.

[Cooper]

I think FC is peeking at these threads and is allowing everyone to keep the drama going...................cant hurt 'em at this point, they can only go up from here.

As far as this "Cooper" member, he does need to answer as to where he got his info and not just throw very specific statements out there without a source, not many folks here really "know" much of him I guess. He seems to be a regular "Joe" like the rest of us based on this post I found from him............he does/did have $$ caught up in the mess:

"So what about the orders pending? Anyone get anything back?, money refund order shipped? I have two motors that got mixed up in an order before all this and now I don't know what to do? Dispute with PayPal?"

Please reply Cooper:Peace_Sign:
Yes I'm a regular joe, just understand how some business is conducted and the turbulences with partners/friends.

[Cooper]

Are you talking about the 37$ discount? That was me. My order has been shipped but when they shipped it they put on a discount and then didn't pay me. I'm not complaining that they didn't pay me I'm just stating the facts.
No
No I'm not saying you r complaining, but if that was with Ben personal that's that, they r trying to sort things out and I do agree
With them, Kevin, if any disputes were personal accounts then how to fix them? I don't know the specifics of yours, and I know you are not complaning.

[Nosbig]

Mine was not personal at all. I was not told it was happening and it wasn't until the order shipped (yesterday), so it was done by Kevin.

[Cooper]

Mine was not personal at all. I was not told it was happening and it wasn't until the order shipped (yesterday), so it was done by Kevin.
Well then maby you r the last one

[Rocstar]

I received an email that Ben had the controller I ordered. I was offered a store credit, refund, or wait for Ben. I opted for the refund but have not received one. Not complaining, not a lot of money, just the facts as well. At this point I'm not worried about it. FC has some good stuff and I'm sure we will square up at some point...

[tryinotocrash]

Well I had a package at my door today , Actually two packages. One I expected the other was from FighterCat. Inside was a 300 amp ESC to replace the one I sent bacj to Ben. Whoever sent it Thank You , Not complaining at all but some response to email might slow the negative posts here. I have tried to remain positive and it seems to have paid off. That is if this ESC works as intended. I have the programmer so I will get that going soon. Thanks . Mark.

[LOVE6S]

I wish they would answer their emails, I have emailed them twice, with no response, I want to order some atuff in the future, but I am a little worried to do so if they cant answer a email.

[Nosbig]

That's the issue, they are losing business by not responding to emails. They are honoring orders but they don't seem to care about the customers.

[jcald2000]

This email works fine, but they are playing catch up.

contact Kevin @ FighterCatShipping@gmail.com

[Nosbig]

From an email I received from the supplier of the ESC's: (full email in the FC HV ESC thread)

Fightercat is a big customer of ours in USA. We cooperated with Fightercat over two years. It is just me to contact with Benjamin(the one boss of Fightercat ) , but Benjamin are having some trouble with his partner Jason, So Fightercat have a new manager Kevin G now.

[egneg]

From an email I received from the supplier of the ESC's: (full email in the FC HV ESC thread)

Fightercat is a big customer of ours in USA. We cooperated with Fightercat over two years. It is just me to contact with Benjamin(the one boss of Fightercat ) , but Benjamin are having some trouble with his partner Jason, So Fightercat have a new manager Kevin G now.

That exact same email was posted by someone already. Did you actually get this or cut and past your name into it.

[Nosbig]

Nope I actually got it, The email was similar to the other one posted but it had some different things in it.

[Cooper]

Hey guys I just wanted to recap some of my thoughts. I am not an employee of anybody except myself. I have had an order in limbo and still not completed. I'm not sketchy. I did have a conversation with Kevin from fc.
I put a few posts up because I would like to see fc move foreword. As they offer some unique products, motor and esc. Our hobby is pretty specialized when it comes to anybody reading these posts, so I fore one do not want to see any source of parts dry up. Yes, it would be nice if someone from fc were to address (us) this issue and at least give us some reassurance in fc. I think what has happened took everyone by surprise including us. I think someone there was doing some damage control first and still trying to keep it up. Overwhelmed? I think so. Yes it's not a very good way to do business but hey it's tuff to work with consumers, friends, partners.
I'm not a traitor to ose, I very much appreciate what Steve does for us, like letting us talk openly about his competitors. To me that is kind of like a slap in the face, but it shows how much he likes his customers to freely discuss unrelated matters.

[egneg]

Whats going on with these guys. My old login doesn't work anymore so I registered again and no confirmation email. These guys must not be trying to get new or repeat customers. I am about ready to delete the bookmark to their web site.

[HYDROJERRY]

I personally went to FC because of Ben so now he's not there its not the same,, i think ill find somewhere else to get my goodies out of respect for Ben..

[ls1fst98]

yea i cant log in either...the forum wont let me. and when i ask for lost password it says my email or name is unrecognized. oh well. i still got OSE for support and i can not complain one bit about what i have gotten from here (nor can i complain about ben)

[Alexgar]

my login worked fine

[jj2003]

:iagree: same here

[marko500]

Tried last night and mine worked fine too.

[carlcisneros]

try to re-register and see what happens

[Ralf]

Hi,

so..i have a 16/400, one of the ten first builds.
Some programming trouble, it peeps repeatingly 10 times with delay within the ten peeps. No chance to get it programmed.
It seems not being dead. But also not working properly.

I tried to contact Ben.
Also fightercat after getting the answer, that Bens`old email is not tracked anymore.

Any ideas what to do?
Simply getting the chance update the firmware or something else could help.

Regards
Ralf

[jcald2000]

I got one of those also, after about a dozen tries I finally got it to program.
I then exchanged the program box and USB with the new F/C management, haven't had a chance to try it yet, boat is at the bottom of lake.
Flipped racing a twin nitro rigger while trying new wider sponsons.

[Basstronics]

I gave the new FC a try and ordered the small cap bank boards.

My only complaint is it cost me $8.57 for shipping in a Priority flat rate envelope of $5ish bucks. Ben at one time allowed us the option to just note "Ship it cheapest way" and he would refund the extra shipping.

[egneg]

try to re-register and see what happens

I did ... still nothing. I am done with this site.

[siberianhusky]

I don't know what's up with their shipping now! Something I know that will fit in a small 13$ flat rate international box is now 30+ in shipping? Heck it would have fit in a padded envelope!
Anybody order from China yet?

[carlcisneros]

egneg
I am also having trouble with the store site, so am not going to be doing any more business with them.
would rather buy direct (sort of) from Fliermodel is I need the HV esc's.

Ralf;
If yo uhave the USB program, try that and see if it will program. If it does, than the programming box is at fault.

[lenny]

Hi,:tiphat:
I was looking for HV esc's to,
And I tried to login to,
My old login doesn't work anymore so I registered again and no confirmation email.

And this what I got from them.

Username and password do not match or you do not have an account yet.

Thanks for contacting customer support on Sunday at 9:15am on a holiday weekend and expecting retro service..It seems as if you have already made your decision, with that said I hope you are happy with your new choice of supplier/support. Remember that we at FCR will be anxiously awaiting your return, Sincerely, Kevin

On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Lenny Dicarlo <lennymanx@yahoo.com> wrote:

I tried to sign in to buy stuff,
But it will not let me in.
My old login doesn't work anymore so I registered again and no confirmation email,
That is pretty screwed up,
Guess I will go some where else.

Thanks.

[yfzbrad]

Logged in for me, no problem. And this isn't a huge company with thousands of employees working everyday. It is a holiday weekend. They are probably trying to enjoy a day off, especially after the mess they been working through. Give them a break. I placed a order with them last Tuesday for a hull and various other hardware and it shipped out the next day for like 15 bucks from Florida to California.

[runzwithsizorz]

egneg
I am also having trouble with the store site, so am not going to be doing any more business with them.
would rather buy direct (sort of) from Fliermodel is I need the HV esc's.

Ralf;
If yo uhave the USB program, try that and see if it will program. If it does, than the programming box is at fault.
Hi Carl, do you think, my/the, Fighter Cat programing box will work with those? http://www.aliexpress.com/store/group/ESC-for-Boat/513485_211691342.html

[carlcisneros]

yepper

[White Trash]

I'm new to all this , but I just received my new fantasm 41 as promised

[Brushless55]

Hi,:tiphat:
I was looking for HV esc's to,
And I tried to login to,
My old login doesn't work anymore so I registered again and no confirmation email.

And this what I got from them.

Username and password do not match or you do not have an account yet.

Thanks for contacting customer support on Sunday at 9:15am on a holiday weekend and expecting retro service..It seems as if you have already made your decision, with that said I hope you are happy with your new choice of supplier/support. Remember that we at FCR will be anxiously awaiting your return, Sincerely, Kevin

On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Lenny Dicarlo <lennymanx@yahoo.com> wrote:

I tried to sign in to buy stuff,
But it will not let me in.
My old login doesn't work anymore so I registered again and no confirmation email,
That is pretty screwed up,
Guess I will go some where else.

Thanks.

sorry your having issues bro, but good call

[Make-a-Wake]

Thanks for contacting customer support on Sunday at 9:15am on a holiday weekend and expecting retro service..It seems as if you have already made your decision, with that said I hope you are happy with your new choice of supplier/support. Remember that we at FCR will be anxiously awaiting your return, Sincerely, Kevin


The whole reply sounds smart-ass.

[Brushless55]

The whole reply sounds smart-ass.

Wow, I did not catch that one!

[lenny]

I got lucky.:banana:

Yes because I could not log in today with them,
I sent them a email today for help,
I said that it was screwed up that I could not log in,
And would have to buy some where else then.

:tiphat:
Will I got lucky on hear today and got what I needed anyway.

[Ralf]

egneg
I am also having trouble with the store site, so am not going to be doing any more business with them.
would rather buy direct (sort of) from Fliermodel is I need the HV esc's.

Ralf;
If yo uhave the USB program, try that and see if it will program. If it does, than the programming box is at fault.

I treid both, program and box. both not working.
The esc beeps ten times a row, some seconds pause, then again ten times.

If you select the right controller-type in the box or program it should beep, but no reaction. Beeps steady.
Also no reaction when connect everything in the boat. Beep, beep, beep...blah.

I am okay with doing something on my side. The old Software (not the downloadable V2) or making a firmware upgrad eon my side.
But no help or download anywhere.

Has someone V1-software and can send it to me?

Thanksk in advance,
Ralf

[Steven Vaccaro]

My store and forum account info was also erased. I re registered, with the forum I was activated but have not been activated for the store yet. It's been about a week or so.

Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2

[carlcisneros]

Ralf;
I will check and see if I still have the V1 software later on today.

[Punisher 67]

I still have the V1 programing software - PM me your email addy

[carlcisneros]

thanks guy

I checked and I dont have it any more.