PB BlackJack 29

[Diesel6401]

Darin and the boys from PB strike again!

http://www.ProBoatmodels.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdId=PRB4150

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[Derrick Davis]

Thanks for heads up on this one Diesel. Looks to be the new hotness!
Great....now i'll this one on my mind. Time to make room! Nice job on this Darin....again! ; )
Ciao

[Darin Jordan]

You guys beat me to it!!

I have to give the credit to the guys running the show back at Pro Boat in Ill. They came up with all of the branding, etc.

I worked with them on the new ESC, which is fantastic. Larger 12 gauge wire, 4mm contacts, lipo/nimh switch, 80A, and 6S compatible... I tested one again this weekend in my Miss Geico and was very impressed. Startup is smoother, as is the throttle curve.

http://www.proboatmodels.com/ProdInfo/LargeImages/PRB4150.jpg

[Darin Jordan]

I should also add that the rudder hardware has been updated as well. This is designed as I had originally submitted the drawings for the Mystic!

The rudder bracket is now a separate piece that bolts to the strut, and leaves the steering servo on the inboard of the hull, leaving room in the battery tray for placing the batteries all the way back if desired. This also puts the steering horn on the rudder in the correct relationship to the steering pivot, giving a more linear rudder movement and equal travel both directions.

This hardware is a direct bolt-on to the Miss Geico. It can be fitted to a Mystic as well, but you'd have to relocate the pushrod hole.

http://www.proboatmodels.com/ProdInfo/Gallery/PRB4150_a2.jpg

[Darin Jordan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8obtZbHnAg8

PLEASE NOTE: I would not recommend being barefoot in the water around a running boat.

[roadrashracing]

This must of slipped: :spy:

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[Darin Jordan]

This must of slipped: :spy:

78257

Hmmmmm... Maybe!?

If they went BL... I haven't heard about it! Doesn't mean something like that hasn't been discussed, however... :D

[Darin Jordan]

This must of slipped: :spy:

78257

It's already been corrected... ;)

[Diesel6401]

Darin you and PB have raised the bar and set the standards very VERY high over the last few years! It seemed like once the MG dropped all hell broke loose and PB into over-drive,hitting homerun after homerun with the last handful of releases and now this and the Impulse 31 V2 (http://www.proboatmodels.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdId=PRB4250B) becoming available it seems you guys aren't laying off the throttle anytime soon. Much respect to you and the PB team Darin!

[airman66285]

These are some beautiful additions to the Proboat line up for sure! RTR's have really made some incredible strides in the last 2 years. I am still waiting for Proboat to offer a MIss Geico twin!:rockon2:

[POWERS]

What ProBoat has done is really pretty simple and yet AuguaCraft should be shaking in their boots. ProBoat already had a better quality product, they already had better looking products. And now by simply switching up paint schemes and the internals of three hulls they now have 6 different RTR race boats to choose from. It should definitely draw some new people into the hobby. Now they just need to make some bigger hulls.

Only thing i see wrong is the timing, looks like the release dates are near the end of summer, and as it seems the norm in r/c those dates usually get pushed back, so possibly winter time? No biggie for us in Florida. Although they would make some great gifts under christmas trees.

[airman66285]

What ProBoat has done is really pretty simple and yet AuguaCraft should be shaking in their boots. ProBoat already had a better quality product, they already had better looking products. And now by simply switching up paint schemes and the internals of three hulls they now have 6 different RTR race boats to choose from. It should definitely draw some new people into the hobby. Now they just need to make some bigger hulls.

Only thing i see wrong is the timing, looks like the release dates are near the end of summer, and as it seems the norm in r/c those dates usually get pushed back, so possibly winter time? No biggie for us in Florida. Although they would make some great gifts under christmas trees.

The release dates are kind of a bummer for me as well. I live in Minnesocold so my racing season is short to begin with. It would be fantastic if Proboat offered a 36" MissGeico catamaran twin in the future - I would snatch one up in a second.

[Diesel6401]

I should also add that the rudder hardware has been updated as well. This is designed as I had originally submitted the drawings for the Mystic!

The rudder bracket is now a separate piece that bolts to the strut, and leaves the steering servo on the inboard of the hull, leaving room in the battery tray for placing the batteries all the way back if desired. This also puts the steering horn on the rudder in the correct relationship to the steering pivot, giving a more linear rudder movement and equal travel both directions.

This hardware is a direct bolt-on to the Miss Geico. It can be fitted to a Mystic as well, but you'd have to relocate the pushrod hole.

http://www.proboatmodels.com/ProdInfo/Gallery/PRB4150_a2.jpg

Does the new hardware design feature break-away rudder?

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[ray schrauwen]

Darin, I just painted my Miss Geico red.

Can I get a set of decals to deck it out like the new version here?

Might buy that hardware too.

[ray schrauwen]

Why does it say in parts that hull is orange?? Looks red to me...

[Stephavee]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8obtZbHnAg8

PLEASE NOTE: I would not recommend being barefoot in the water around a running boat. I found this out the hard way!....Why is the water all red?...I guess its not as deep as i thought! Those dang turnfins...why are they so sharp!

[arp1500]

whats top speed with 2 2s lipos

[Tom899]

I just ordered a "Blackjack 29". What batteries should I get? I guess what I'm asking is what is the largest physically that would fit. I know some 3s are larger. I want to buy some batteries ahead of time before the boat comes in and want to make sure they will fit.

[Tom899]

Ok, still looking for advice. I have a Hitec X2-400 charger and power supply ordered and would like to start purchasing batteries. Do all of you mostly run soft packs? It looks like the GenAce batteries are pretty good? I don't know if I should get 2s or 3s? 5000 or 5300mah? 40c 50c 60c? I've been reading a lot about these batteries and what the specs and ratings mean but would still like your advice for what would be a good match for the new Blackjack 29. I will be fine running in the 40mph range, and would like long runs more than anything.
Thanks,
Tom


I just ordered a "Blackjack 29". What batteries should I get? I guess what I'm asking is what is the largest physically that would fit. I know some 3s are larger. I want to buy some batteries ahead of time before the boat comes in and want to make sure they will fit.

[EdW.]

I'm in as a newbie along with Tom. Looking for the same advice, info, etc. from the "pros"!

Thanks.

EdW.

[jamespl]

Ok, still looking for advice. I have a Hitec X2-400 charger and power supply ordered and would like to start purchasing batteries. Do all of you mostly run soft packs? It looks like the GenAce batteries are pretty good? I don't know if I should get 2s or 3s? 5000 or 5300mah? 40c 50c 60c? I've been reading a lot about these batteries and what the specs and ratings mean but would still like your advice for what would be a good match for the new Blackjack 29. I will be fine running in the 40mph range, and would like long runs more than anything.
Thanks,
Tom
What would you consider long run times? You ate prob looking at 8mins tops and that's prob being generous. What ever packs you go for get the highest c rating you can find as this will give you a little more speed, cooler packs and longer pack life.

[Tom899]

What would you consider long run times? You ate prob looking at 8mins tops and that's prob being generous. What ever packs you go for get the highest c rating you can find as this will give you a little more speed, cooler packs and longer pack life.
Thanks for the information. I'm thinking anything over 10 minutes would be long? I'll look for high mah and high c ratings.

[arp1500]

My dad runs gens ace 4 cell in his buggy and he loves the pack

[EdW.]

Darin: In your post above re the new ESC in the Blackjack 29, were you running 4S or 6S with the new ESC? Series or parallel?

[arp1500]

It was a mamba max setup. For a 1/8 buggy

[lomdel]

For this boat, i would go with 2x 5S packs in parallel. It will give you a theoretical 33,300rpm rating and long run-time. If only the ESC will hold up to it. If the batts C-rating is high enough (40+), it should be fine. 6S will be a bit much, I assume... A 120A ESC upgrade will probably be on the cards sooner or later... When will this boat be released?
I second the suggestion of a 36" twin Miss Geico cat!!

[Diesel6401]

I would go 4s or 5s for short burst. 5s2p would be a lot of weight in that hull. I would say 2s 5000mah 30c or 40c with matching 3s 5000 30 or 40c packs. Give you 4s and 5s combos... just me.

6s no comment...

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[the5]

Does this have the same hull as the Miss geico?

[jamespl]

Yep.

[ray schrauwen]

I don't get the fascination with 6S. In the right hands this boat (modified) can do 70mph on 2S. the heavier you go, the slower it accelerates & decelerates.

The heavier you go, more amps too, specially 2P. Unless you plan on running really high C rated 3300 cells or something???

Almost done painting my Mrs.G red with me own graphics ala BJ29 style...

[lomdel]

I would go 4s or 5s for short burst. 5s2p would be a lot of weight in that hull. I would say 2s 5000mah 30c or 40c with matching 3s 5000 30 or 40c packs. Give you 4s and 5s combos... just me.

6s no comment...

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A 2S and 3S combo for 5S total would be uneven weight distribution, or how would you mount them...? I hear the weight argument of 5S2P. Should reconsider that then. First try 2x 2S in serie and if the speed is sufficient, stay there, otherwise try something for 5S. Putting in a different prop and a 180A ESC would enable 2x 3S for 6S for sure! Now we're talking...

[Diesel6401]

A 2S and 3S combo for 5S total would be uneven weight distribution, or how would you mount them...? I hear the weight argument of 5S2P. Should reconsider that then. First try 2x 2S in serie and if the speed is sufficient, stay there, otherwise try something for 5S. Putting in a different prop and a 180A ESC would enable 2x 3S for 6S for sure! Now we're talking...

3s on the port side. The boat is going to neutrally want to lift that side out of the water due to torque roll. I ran 5s like that in my MG, no issues... same hull!

If you go 5s2p your going to want and prob need to remove the battery trays to get the weight low in the hull.

Weight CAN be your friend, depends on the application though.

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[ray schrauwen]

Just showing my version of the BJ29, Really liked the font but, wanted my own style.

Canopy done, needs a second/third clear on main hull and some decals.

Letters & arrow all paint. Molotow Premium rattle can. no drips no dust gauranteed. Funky paint but, it works.

[wpshen]

i just checked the proboat website . they change the release date to early October . i have been waiting for this boat for a long time , have to wait again ? what happen proboat ?

[Tom899]

i just checked the proboat website . they change the release date to early October . i have been waiting for this boat for a long time , have to wait again ? what happen proboat ?

Summer will be over here in Michigan when these are finally available so not sure if I should write this year off. Is there another boat I should be looking at? Maybe a AuquaCraft Revolt 30?

[lsguy]

hi im new to this forum i have a blackjack 26ss bought it about a year ago and love it i have removed battery trays and tupperware lowered esc thrust bearing on the motor modified fins i also pulled motor apart and put ceramic bearings in it with a prather s220 and 2 3 cell 65c thunder powers i hit 56 mph on gps i have made about 20 runs with this setup and no fire yet the motor and esc get warm but not hot at all im looking at the new bj29 what speeds are you thinking on 6 cell sorry for the long first post just wanted to let you know what i have

[lsguy]

how fast are you thinking the bj29 will on 6 cell

[lomdel]

You'll fry the stock 1800kv motor on 6S except for a SAW pass. Try to keep the theoretical rpm range just below or on 30k ... She will be plenty fast on 6S but won't last long!

[arp1500]

the proboat web site says 2s or 3s lipo

[Diesel6401]

the proboat web site says 2s or 3s lipo

Doesn't matter if it can take not or not. Just because it can handle the voltage doesn't mean the components and drive train will handle the amp spikes and the increase in rpms. Just ask the traxxas spartan guys about how well 6s worked for them in a 1800kv rtr. No place for 6s in a rtr boat and I've been active in voicing my discontent but I'm a nobody in this hobby so new guys will burn on 6s and come here and complain. Way of the world. They really should have went with the pb1500 kv motor. That on 6s gets a Diesel seal of approval!

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[stadiumyamaha]

Not to mention with the right setup you can get that hull in to the 50s pretty easily on 4s2p. Just a motor swap away.
6s= time bomb with stock gear.

[ruffdawg]

I only need enough battery time to mill and run 6 laps so im looking for good power and maybe 5 mins run tome, i was thinking of 50c 2s ? can i go with more c on this boat and what mah would you guys run just for racing... thanks

[lomdel]

Any inside news on the release date, Darin?

[gyrotron]

Darin,

Will PB come up with an ARTR version of the BJ 29 w/o transmitter and receiver?

[Darin Jordan]

Any inside news on the release date, Darin?


Darin,

Will PB come up with an ARTR version of the BJ 29 w/o transmitter and receiver?

Sorry, Guys... I'm not really deeply into the loop on this one. Not sure what the delivery schedule is.

As for the ARTR version... I will ask.

[gyrotron]

Just showing my version of the BJ29, Really liked the font but, wanted my own style.

Canopy done, needs a second/third clear on main hull and some decals.

Letters & arrow all paint. Molotow Premium rattle can. no drips no dust gauranteed. Funky paint but, it works.

Nice job man. Is that Ferrari red?

[CHIEFY_44]

In my spec race setup I run 2s 5000mha 65c dinogy cells and its runs gd with just enough left in the cells even after 1 penalty lap on my miss G, I'm a big believer in running the highest C rated cells I can get my hands on and for the money these dinogy cells are great, have used thunderpowers and they are gd to but the prices are getting too much these days.

[Davinsta]

Does anyone have any idea when this blackjack 29 will be on the market? Also what do you think the best battery set-up will be thanks

[CHIEFY_44]

Mid October I hear

[lomdel]

Horizon's site says it's got a 2,5" prop. That can't be correct, can it? What size in terms of the Octura props would that equal, X642?
I plan to upgrade it with the OSE 4074 1400kv and Seaking 180ESC RTI system with proper 6S packs.
Would the OSE Miss Geico upgrade cable, fit this boat as well?

[ray schrauwen]

Same prop as Mystic. 1.6"Diameter x 2.5" of pitch.


Horizon's site says it's got a 2,5" prop. That can't be correct, can it? What size in terms of the Octura props would that equal, X642?
I plan to upgrade it with the OSE 4074 1400kv and Seaking 180ESC RTI system with proper 6S packs.
Would the OSE Miss Geico upgrade cable, fit this boat as well?

It is VERY similar to a Prather 215> http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/proddetail.php?prod=hpi-prather-s215

[f1rogers]

Can you please explain the 2s = 70mph on a proboat 29". I can do 70+ with 6s, but I would really like to know how to do it on 2s. Motor & prop. thanks.

[Davinsta]

Hey it looks like we're in the same boat lol I also am waiting for my blackjack 29.I think I'm going to start off with2s 5500mah 60c I found some online for 50.00 apiece.This will be my first boat,is there anything that you might change right out of the box?

[rpedro]

Where can I buy this boat??? What batteries are best for the application??? Please help!!!

[Tom899]

Where can I buy this boat??? What batteries are best for the application??? Please help!!!

Might be available in October

[ruffdawg]

Before you spend money on lipos check out Performance rc lipos ,He is a member here and you will get a high quality -high performance 2s 65c that will work better in your boat for the same money,Just my suggesstion ...they are called dinogy...lots of the racers on here run them with no problems

[f1rogers]

Quote from ray#30 "I don't get the fascination with 6S. In the right hands this boat (modified) can do 70mph on 2S". Thats amazing, please tell ME how. The boat would sure be lighter in weight.

[mv301]

Boat is in stock- just ordered mine. Horizon and Phil's hobbies has them- next day shipping!!

[Diesel6401]

Let the 6s bombs begin...

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[ruffdawg]

Diesel you seem to be very knowledgeable about the FE stuff.im new at FEcoming from gas boats.would a pair of dinogy 2s 65c - 120c.burst packs be.too much for this ?.any advise on props would also be greatly apreciated

Thanks from a new FE guy..

[Diesel6401]

Diesel you seem to be very knowledgeable about the FE stuff.im new at FEcoming from gas boats.would a pair of dinogy 2s 65c - 120c.burst packs be.too much for this ?.any advise on props would also be greatly apreciated

Thanks from a new FE guy..

Those are fine. Higher the C the better.

The PB1800 doesn't have the torque of the PB1500 and this Hull doesn't like a lot of pitch so.

- Grim 40x52/3 or x440/3
- Grim 42x55
- x440
- prather 215
- x442

Some folks will say the x642, I didn't care for that Hull with that prop. Remember this is the same Hull as the mystic and mg.

Not sure how well the PB1800 will swing a m445, would be a nice prop for the hull. Just check temps often, a prather 220 same thing, check temps. ...

CF40, 42 and 45 will all work well also. Not as efficient as a metal prop, but cheap upgrades. The stock PB prop isn't that bad either, just sharpen and balance it. Its around the same specs as a prather 215 (if they're using the same stock prop they used in the past)

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[sturco]

Guys, I just got a notice that my PB-BJ is shipped to me ! I pre-ordered it at the $399.00 price and was confirmed with the invoice e-mailed to me ! Can't wait to see what it looks like. Thanks "Diesel" for suggesting it as my next Cat !
Steve

[Darin Jordan]

Those are fine. Higher the C the better.

The PB1800 doesn't have the torque of the PB1500 and this Hull doesn't like a lot of pitch so.

- Grim 40x52/3 or x440/3
- Grim 42x55
- x440
- prather 215
- x442



I have had pretty good luck with the X440/3 on this setup. Of course, mine has been tweaked a bit, but it performs well on an offshore course and seems to really handle well.

The hull seems to perform better with smaller pitch-ratio props with good pitch. Too much blade area can cause it to grab a sponson and roll-over.

Lighter on the pitch and blade area and crank up the RPM and the boat seems to go very well...

[lomdel]

Received my BJ29 yesterday and already started gutting the inside. I recently bought the OSE 1400kv and 180A ESC combo and installed that this morning. See before and after pics... That OSE Leopard 1400kv motor is huge and clear the hump in the sub-hatch with only a couple of millimeters to spare! I hope the puny Proboat motor-mount holds up...
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I intend to run this off 6S with the upgraded flex-shaft. Will start with stock prop (balanced) and try a X440 next...

[ray schrauwen]

I use the same prop and like it very much. Mine is D/T'd, do you think this is a good idea or not?


I have had pretty good luck with the X440/3 on this setup. Of course, mine has been tweaked a bit, but it performs well on an offshore course and seems to really handle well.

The hull seems to perform better with smaller pitch-ratio props with good pitch. Too much blade area can cause it to grab a sponson and roll-over.

Lighter on the pitch and blade area and crank up the RPM and the boat seems to go very well...

[scrillamil]

I bought a PB Miss Geico29" V1 having a blast but just wrecked it on New years. My good friend has the PB BJ 29" running 3s 5000mah 35c w/ stock ss prop and can't get it to full speed. Any tips w/ that hull?

[lomdel]

My BJ29 on 6S : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_x1f3PNrSs&feature=youtu.be . I would not recommend running these FE boats in such a confined space...!

[ray schrauwen]

You must be using FPV goggle system correct? Excellent video!!
My BJ29 on 6S : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_x1f3PNrSs&feature=youtu.be . I would not recommend running these FE boats in such a confined space...!

[scrillamil]

Nice Vid👍

[lomdel]

You must be using FPV goggle system correct? Excellent video!!

No FPV, just a GoPro on a suction cup mount facing backwards. I were able to see it all the time. The GoPro's weight on the bow, smoothed her out a lot!

[CHIEFY_44]

do you mean he is running with one 3s pack ???, if he is thats the problem not enough volts to power it minimum volts to run this boat at top speeds are 14.4 volts, so he needs either 2x2s packs or 1x4s pack.

[bob_t]

do you mean he is running with one 3s pack ???, if he is thats the problem not enough volts to power it minimum volts to run this boat at top speeds are 14.4 volts, so he needs either 2x2s packs or 1x4s pack.

No, he has plenty of power! I asked about that too in the other thread "Proboat Miss Geico, Blackjack29 RTR". He was running 2x3s batteries, so its really 6s (22.2V) with the BJ29 1800kv motor and esc, per the other thread.

[scrillamil]

not a prob of power:rockon2: (2) 3s w/ stock BJ29 setup smokin fast if we can keep it from hoppin. Do you think blueprinting would help the bounce? It wants to flip backwards was thinking of trying some extra weight to the front still tinkering. I AM ADDICTED NOW!

[bob_t]

not a prob of power:rockon2: (2) 3s w/ stock BJ29 setup smokin fast if we can keep it from hoppin. Do you think blueprinting would help the bounce? It wants to flip backwards was thinking of trying some extra weight to the front still tinkering. I AM ADDICTED NOW!

See this thread: http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/showthread.php?38908-BJ29-Pilots-what-is-your-setup-to-avoid-the-bouncing

Lots of good info.

[lomdel]

No FPV, just a GoPro on a suction cup mount facing backwards. I were able to see it all the time. The GoPro's weight on the bow, smoothed her out a lot!

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[Barrel Roll Joe]

just ordered this boat im totally stoked!!!

[scrillamil]

These boats are awesome. I will post some vids tomorrow I have MG29v1 & MGv2. Plus a BJ29 we have been running 5s speed packs 50c a blast just have to watch running times. Bought 3 props to try today.

[Barrel Roll Joe]

I saw your fleet... pretty BADASS!!! You have almost as many MG's as the official race team lol. Bring on the vids would love to see them.

[Barrel Roll Joe]

Duh im def a noob huh? so then the 3s will go on the port side?

[Barrel Roll Joe]

Here she is! definitely a neon redish orange color. 9347493475934769347793478

Cant wait for spring!!!!

[ray schrauwen]

Is that the hardware it comes with? I thought it had something different? Guess not... the Mystic hardware I thought was nicer.

Nice colour though

[Barrel Roll Joe]

:drool:yea totally stock for now

[scrillamil]

The MGv2 w only stock 60a ESC has been running 5s awesome, surprised tweaking props but very happy I put the 3s on both sides so far. I put some plastic foam pcs in the front helped keep nose down. I will update vids of the BJ29 also on 5s. I hit a turtle w my MGv1 goin about 45-50. Thru it up in the air flipped somehow landed right side up, knocked the spacer on top of rudder and dented the bottom of it too. After filing down sharp again (still no spacer on top, it handles the best out of all of them???? Lol go figure

[Barrel Roll Joe]

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Cant freakin wait for the lake to defrost!!! installed an OSE flex shaft and a S&B 42x55 Grim prop. made a better stand for it out of pvc for $20 and a cover to possibly help with fading. have a MG1 its about two years old and it faded pretty bad.

[ray schrauwen]

While you are waiting you have time to sharpen & balance that prop. If you do, the performance is much better.

[Davinsta]

Good luck with it,had mine since Sept 2012 and had nothing but fun times with it, I,m running same prop on 4s and when i added that prop flipped it twice,Good luck again

[Davinsta]

Does anybody know how i can match the BJ 29 paint color ????

[scrillamil]

I was thinking something for the MG I have a spare hull to repair ! Barrel Roll I love the skulls👍😜

[lenny]

Hey scrillamil

What is that cabin cruiser boat in your fleet ?

[Barrel Roll Joe]

Thanks for all the great tips guys. The flaming skull is from my local pep boys, its basically a chrome dipped piece of aluminum with adhesive tape. All of my toys get something added to make them unique :rockon2:

[Archer]

Diesel are you suggesting a 2s and a 3s in series?:confused2:

[lomdel]

Prepping for some runs later today...

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[lenny]

Yes, For 5s running.
But they need to be all the same, But the volts.


Diesel are you suggesting a 2s and a 3s in series?:confused2:

[lomdel]

My BJ29 at full throttle yesterday. Awesome pic by my wife!
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/18/a2y5upys.jpg

[lomdel]

What is the best method to remove the flex shaft for re-grease without removing the whole strut?

[ray schrauwen]

Use 2 wrenches to loosen the flex collet at the motor and the shaft slides out from the strut. Who told you you have to remove the strut? Take prop off first and nut. Should be no problem.

[Archer]

Nice pic Lomdel ! How many S? And was that the stock prop. Also what do you think about the turning with the offset rudder.

[lomdel]

Nothing stock about that BJ29. OSE upgrade Leopard motor and T180 ESC on 6S with Octura prop. Stock driveline parts, though. About 45mph I think... She turns on a dime!

[Archer]

Nothing stock about that BJ29. OSE upgrade Leopard motor and T180 ESC on 6S with Octura prop. Stock driveline parts, though. About 45mph I think... She turns on a dime!

With the rudder to one side mine seems to fight the prop one way and turn well the other. I have to let off the throttle to get it to turn anything but a large arc.

[rayzerdesigns]

http://youtu.be/5sdFc0jKN54
you don't need to run 6s for speeds in the 50s..stock speedo ul 1 motor x642 prop 2x 2s 5500mah 50c with no timing..for shorter runs I can crank timing up to 7degrees gps at 56mpg

[skeeler]

It would be fantastic if Proboat offered a 36" MissGeico catamaran twin in the future - I would snatch one up in a second.



I second the suggestion of a 36" twin Miss Geico cat!!

I know these are old posts in an old thread, but I'd love to see ProBoat offer a 36-inch-ish Mystic-styled twin cat. I'd snap up one in either Blackjack or Miss Geico livery in a minute.

[lomdel]

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/14/7b13dbc7ba93604a9cce9bd0979aff88.jpg

Ready to roll!