MMProducts 39" Deep Vee

[Alfa Spirit]

Here is the hull with its hardware, this boat don' t need flaps and turnfins. The motor is a CC1717 1580kV the Speedmaster strut from OSE is perfect with twin rudders and motor mount is made by Hervé http://www.mini-meca-rc.fr/ . Flexshaft is a Prestwich Model boats, I hope it' s strong enough This hull is awesome http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/640/waouw.gif http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/640/waouw.gif http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/640/waouw.gif


http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/455/racemaster1.jpg
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/7074/temp204.jpg

[iamandrew]

Ill have one soon :D

Ill be giving a 1700 5682 Turnigy a try in it on 5S with a 3/16 shaft.
hope the packs fit!

[Alfa Spirit]

I won' t paint the Rapid hull the finish is very high quality. So I made 3 sheets of stickers to print on transparent or white vinyl, I' m not sure which one is the best, may be white for better colors? Price is good: 30 €uros/38 US$ for the three sheets. What vinyl? tranparent or white?

http://img10.imageshack.us/img810/645/temp26.jpg

[srislash]

Those look great Alpha,I think I may need some.I've been keeping an eye open for sponsor decals.So are you selling these on clear vinyl?

[Norman2]

Hi Clear Vinyl will be best. When are they going to be Available? Regards
Norman2

[Alfa Spirit]

I just put an order for one set transparent outside quality. If I need to put a sticker on a dark part it' s possible to put the sticker on a white vinyl.

[cugino]

Racemaster is very popular hull in my country.

Most of us have Leopar 4082 or Castle 1520 1600KV with 6S 5000mAh akupack. We are very happy with this setap, Racemaster drives well with X447.

[Alfa Spirit]

This is cool, I'll run the deep vee with a Castle Creations 1717 motor, same range with Leopard 4082. This motor is now discontinued. 4 pole motor, 1580kV, Motor diameter is 50mm, The CC1717 is 85mm long and the weight? 570 grammes...
Are you running with 6S 1P or 6S 2P parallel wiring. What do you think using 3S packs?
Here is rhe monster

http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/2310/castle27.jpg

[Rumdog]

You're going to want 6s2p with that motor. It's a hog.

[Rumdog]

I thought you bought the MHZ Racemaster????? http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/showthread.php?31150-MHZ-39-quot-Racemaster&highlight=

"With 2 rudders it' s easier to adjust the trajectory, flaps will help too. I hate turnfins I hope I won' t need those parts
Using two 6S packs will help me to find the right balance, what do you think??

I did it, I put an order for a white Racemaster and I will sell my MHZ Fountain Dragon Lady, like new, untouched, undrilled. I prefer the Racemaster, those two deep vee' s have the same lenght, same V design."

http://www.mhz-powerboats.com/mhzpow...39e88b87e1634d

[Alfa Spirit]

In fact I wanted to buy a Racemaster and I bought a MHZ Lady Electro Fountain

[Make-a-Wake]

You ever gonna build one an run it................maybe show us some vid?

[Rumdog]

HUH? http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/showthread.php?31403-I-sold-my-MHZ-Fountain-for-a-MMP-Rapide&highlight=
I'm really confused here..

[6BOOST]

Lol, I know your confusion Rummy, he's saying originally he wanted to get the MHZ Racemaster, but ended up getting a Fountain, an now rather than following through with his order for the MHZ hull he has purchased a Rapid (exact same boat) direct from MMP, even tho he said he placed the order for the racemaster;)

6BOOST

[Rumdog]

Don't forget.... sold the Fountain.

[6BOOST]

Lol

[cugino]

Litlle bit litght....

Rapid is Racemaster, but only for Czech local market. Everywhere else Rapid should be called Racemaster. Just policy of company.

We all run them with 6S1P 5000mAh and 40mm diameter Leopard motors (i know 4 Leopard equiped boats near by with diferent props and KVs, all perform well ).

We run 6S1P or 2x 3S1P in series, both works well either.

[Alfa Spirit]

Cugino, what is the boat on your avatar? It looks like a Shockwave .....


http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/6978/temp140.jpg

[cugino]

Yes man. Good perception.

[srislash]

Alpha,Where or how can I get my hands on those decal sheets?

[Alfa Spirit]

If you want I can send you the.pdf file. I ' ve got rhe decal sheets, very nice and good price I will post pics
@ Cugino, your Shockvave is awesome, the stickers are from MHZ?

[Alfa Spirit]

Here are the decal sheets

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/9059/racemaster13.jpg

[Alfa Spirit]

MMProducts are avalaible many plain colors
-White
-Black
-Yellow
-Orange
-Red
-Blue


http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/4328/stickersmmp1.jpg

[srislash]

If you want I can send you the.pdf file. I ' ve got rhe decal sheets, very nice and good price I will post pics
@ Cugino, your Shockvave is awesome, the stickers are from MHZ?I would love the file.I then just need a vinyl printshop right?

[Make-a-Wake]

Yes man. Good perception.

Nice hardware!

[Alfa Spirit]

I need your mail adress in PM

I need bigger ones, OUTERLIMITS logos are too short for the side of the hull, I made a pdf horizontal (?)

[Alfa Spirit]

I made the window on the cockpit with carbon look adhesiv. Not easy because there no mark on the hatch,

[Alfa Spirit]

+1

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/6536/temp5296.jpg

[srislash]

That looks good Alfa!

[cugino]

If you want I can send you the.pdf file. I ' ve got rhe decal sheets, very nice and good price I will post pics
@ Cugino, your Shockvave is awesome, the stickers are from MHZ?

Yes, directly from MHZ. I think, they siuts well.

[Alfa Spirit]

Thanks, I had the stickers this afternon, very good job, incredible quality

[Alfa Spirit]

Here is the last clear decals sheet. I' m waiting for small air intakes and let' s go. I always star with paint/stickers job.

http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/8476/temp45872.jpg

[DjFlipNautikz]

Hey man i am really thinking of building this boat. With the set-up you have what speeds do you think you are going to get? Also what Motor would you recommend since the one you are using is discontinued?

And what offset rudder did you use? Do you really need two??

Would you recommend this boat to a first time builder???

GREAT BUILD!!

[Alfa Spirit]

I think 80 to 100 km/h I won' t paint the Rapid only clor decal sheets and stickers

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/8477/racemaster125482.jpg


http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/3961/racemaster51.jpg

[Alfa Spirit]

Here is the master for windows cockpit. Adjust the scale 26 cm x 18 cm, print and have fun!

http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/9978/cockpitrapid13.jpg

[Alfa Spirit]

Do you know those propeller from Promise Hobby? They are cheap, 20 Euros each. Without talking of the price those props look perfect excellent, they are light, well manufactured . The blades are thicker than Tenschock' s. Just have three-bladed , one of 48mm and l' other made 52mm. The step is of 1,4 for both. This is the right size, Octura X447/3 is recommanded with a CC1717 xith 6S in a 1 meter deep vee . Anyway this is a very good deal, props need to be sharpened, no more

Edit ; those props are made by VXP Propellers and price is 50% down at lzrc. Have a look :

http://stores.ebay.fr/VXperformanceproducts/_i.html?_nkw=cnc+propeller&submit=Rechercher&_sid=456345287

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/7366/temp202.jpg

[jujux1]

Hi!

It's quite strange to start with stickers and not the building of the hull... nevermind for propellers
What esc will you use ?

[iamandrew]

yeah any updates on this?
i wouldnt get those props, stick with the known ones.

Im going for the 5S on a 5682 1700KV, going to give it a go and see what happens. if it gets too hot might have to give it more S :D

[Alfa Spirit]

No update, I was skiing for 2 weeks in French and Swiss Alps

I always start with a finished and clean hull

[Rumdog]

Why? Seems kind of backwards.
Just curious

[iamandrew]

Hey Alfa, mine turned up, the quality of the hull is amazing. I wont be painting mine!
Ive got a 5682 1700KV i was going to run with 5 S packs, but i am starting to think its going to be too big! the weight distribution will be very diffcult with a motor this size. have you got any plans for yours? ive allready got a 3/16 drive setup and stinger drive, no rudder yet.

[Alfa Spirit]

Oh yes, the Rapid or Racemaster are very nice, the materials and finish are very high quality, I don' t paint mine. I use vinyl adhesive color sheets for places and stickers for an Outerlimits replica. A Leopard 5692 is very big and heavy, 880 grammes, my Castle Creations 1717 is 560 grammes. If you want to use the Leopard 5692 this is not a problem, heavy motor adds stability for the hull you can use 3S + 2S batteries, 3S on the left side. I use 2 rudders, found a model xhich can be reversed to have a symetrical mount
IMPORTANT: The motor must be installed on the back of the hull
If you are interested I sale this set of stickers and I have stickers for cockpit, let me know if you need one

[iamandrew]

Yeah well thats what im wondering, if i should go to a Leopard 4082 or somthing instead !

[Alfa Spirit]

Yep!
A Leopard 4082 is perfect

[iamandrew]

hmm i duno what to do now, ive allready got a 40 size bracket, but also have this leopard.
i tryed looking up the net for pictures of setups, i found plenty of youtuve videos but that was it :(

[macdon]

Sleek looking hull!

About $190 in Rocket City Racing plus $60 shipping to Manila, so $250 for the hull.

[Alfa Spirit]

Buy a 4082 motor and sale the 5682 :smile:

[iamandrew]

Hey Macdon, yea its definatly a nice hull.
Its very narrow though, its sort of like a persuit hull but lengthend. so the transom is similar size. Very good build quality. MMP have been good to deal with as well

[macdon]

Hey Macdon, yea its definatly a nice hull.
Its very narrow though, its sort of like a persuit hull but lengthend. so the transom is similar size. Very good build quality. MMP have been good to deal with as well

Hey Andrew, any feedbacks on this hull handling chop?
Im currently scratch-building a 40 incher cig boat, but if that doesnt pan out its good to have alternatives.

[iamandrew]

well in some of the youtube videos its usually pretty flat. the V hull angle is almost the same as the persuit.
When mines built ill end up using it in a salt water lake.
The hatch is amazing. its a PERFECT fit. its got less than a 1mm gap around the whole thing, and the hatch bit that slides into the hull is quite deep, so if its taped down you probably wouldnt need hatch locks at all.

[macdon]

I found 2 videos of it in chop.........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55X7Jyx_2o8&feature=related

This next video has chop starting at 6:34

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zb1uZnv6jig&feature=related

[iamandrew]

yeah its hard to tell, it really does look like it bounces around a lot. its still almost a 1M long hull thou

[Alfa Spirit]

The RAPID has an exemplary behavior :tiphat:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICweC_iAhfI&feature=related

[Make-a-Wake]

The COG is too far back in that vid

[Alfa Spirit]

I' m agree

[Alfa Spirit]

I rectified the rudder blades they are 5cm shorter, now there is 3 or 4cm between the V and the ends of rudders
All parts were disassenbled, Rudders are are nicely mounted

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/7347/temp225.jpg

[Alfa Spirit]

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/7351/temp228.jpg

[Rumdog]

uhhh, didnt you put a windshield decal on?
Start drilling!!!!!

[Alfa Spirit]

What is minimum distance between the blades?
If the blades are too much spaced this is not nice, 80mm between the rudders looks nice with the design of the deep vee

[Alfa Spirit]

No idea

[Rumdog]

I might answer your question if you answer mine. I'd probably still be hesitant though since I don't think you're actually going to build this boat. All your build threads ever are, are pics of your gear nicely posed by the hull. They seem to move backward if anything, and you've never finished a build. What gives? Don't they have epoxy in France?

[Alfa Spirit]

What is minimum distance between the blades?
If the blades are too much spaced this is not nice, 80mm between the rudders looks nice with the design of the deep vee
Max diameter for ptopellers will be 50mm

[Rumdog]

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills..

[Alfa Spirit]

I was talking with people frim MMP and looked to Rapid and Racemaster builds on forums, the motor must be placed near the back of the hull. This is the best choice for stability, and especially if thee motor is big like the CC1717
Distance between back hull to motor = 20cm to 25cm. More and hull will dancing when you turn

http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/2272/temp240.jpg

[Alfa Spirit]

custom cockpit window decal

[iamandrew]

I think im gonna need a smaller motor in mine. i just realised that its going to be very hard to get the collet off AND no room for the steering servo with the TP5682 :(

[Alfa Spirit]

I don' t think you need a smaller motor have a look here (Turnigy 5692) http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/showthread.php?32715-MHZ-Racemaster-build
How many kV is your Leopard motor 1360KV or 1670KV?

[iamandrew]

Ive got a spare 1700KV turnigy 5682 with the backet and the cooling jacket
Ill put it in the hull and show yas. I wasnt sure how far back it owuld have to go. if its only 15CM from the back then its not much stuffing tube either

[Alfa Spirit]

I edit the reply, not 15 but 25cm, :confused1:

[Alfa Spirit]

I made a decal sheet with offical OSG Racing sponsors. Did I forget something?

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/2274/temp32.jpg

[Alfa Spirit]

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/1007/temp3.jpg

[Rumdog]

Still nothing mounted...
What are you waiting for?

[Alfa Spirit]

Good boy...

[Alfa Spirit]

I made a decal sheet with offical OSG Outerlimits Racing sponsors.
Did I forget something?

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/8210/racemasterprint413.jpg[

[Rumdog]

You forgot that you posted this exact thing earlier... then deleted it, and posted it again.
Cute stickers. How fast will they make your boat go?

[iamandrew]

i belive its about 2HP per sticker :)

[Alfa Spirit]

I made a decal sheet with offical OSG Outerlimits Racing sponsors.
Did I forget something?

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/8210/racemasterprint413.jpg[

This is the definitive version

[Rumdog]

Lol. I need another picture of them decals. I gotta fever, and the only remedy is more decal pics!

[RIPFENCE]

LOL I WOULD DEFINATELY THINK ABOUT TRADING THIS MMP RAPIDE FOR THE MHZ RACEMASTER AND PUT THESE NEW DECALS ON IT AND THEN REALLY CONSIDER TRADING IT FOR A HULL WITH JUST A WINDOW DECAL

SCRATCH AND SNIFF DECALS WOULD ROCK TOO...
:buttrock:

[Make-a-Wake]

You forgot that you posted this exact thing earlier... then deleted it, and posted it again.
Cute stickers. How fast will they make your boat go?

Mine's already done and wet!!!!!!!!!!!

[rearwheelin]

Half the fun of building a boat is talking about it and the other half is the end result....... Don't get in a hurry fellas perfection takes time ! Drill baby Drill ! I would cover the transom with painters tape before doing anything

[jkr]

http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/2272/temp240.jpg[/IMG]
And you are measured from the front-middle or the back of the motor?

[Alfa Spirit]

I know, I take my time. I want a well made semi scale offshore.

[Alfa Spirit]

I found spare parts 150mm rudder brackets only to have the propeller in front of the rudders and better stability


http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/6954/temp316.jpg

[Alfa Spirit]

What' s this ?? :w00t:

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/5426/temp301.jpg

[Rumdog]

Drill holes. Install screws. Glue motor mount.

[Rocstar]

Drill holes. Install screws. Glue motor mount.

:lol: :iagree:

[Alfa Spirit]

Thank you for your encouragement guys

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/7240/temp328.jpg

[jujux1]

balablablablablabla:blah:......................... .. We can't believe in you anymore, you write very well, you're very strong for that but what's happening with building ??????
You may have any problem with your fingers ?

[Rumdog]

He's never finished a build. Let alone started one.

[Make-a-Wake]

Nice! Got any vid?

[Alfa Spirit]

No video that was my second build Graupner Arrow with a brushed Plettenberg motor and 20 elts Cad-Ni

Here are pictures of the MMP Rapid

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/6673/temz34.jpg

[Alfa Spirit]

Any advice, What do you think?

[Make-a-Wake]

I would probably drill some holes and mount hardware at this time...............stickers look good.

[Alfa Spirit]

Yeah, it' s time to install motor, rudders, flex cable, stinger, etc..

What do you think about the look, too much or what?

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/1406/temp338.jpg

[Make-a-Wake]

I like it, i just think your center stripe should have been orange like on the nose.

[jkr]

Just want to say this hull and the cc1717 is the ideal!
Nice stikers.
Probably lighter than paint!

[Alfa Spirit]

Yeah, it' s time to install motor, rudders, flex cable, stinger, etc..

What do you think about the look, too much or what?

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/1406/temp338.jpg

I changed some details to have a better looking hull

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/1807/temp7.jpg

[LarrysDrifter]

Do you buy hulls and put decals on to display them, or do you build the boat and use it? Its seems as if you are more concerned with decals and decal placement than building and running the boats. Why have a build thread if you dont build the boat?

[Alfa Spirit]

Don' t worry Larry

[cugino]

There is 4th page and no hole drilled yet :) A have to be more patient.

Good luck your build.

[Alfa Spirit]

RC Offshore MMP Rapid

Last version before clear coat UPOL#1


http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/1807/te12553.jpg

[Rocstar]

Seriously?

[iamandrew]

I still havent built mine either :(
need a new motor replacement, was going to use a 5692 1700 kv but its huge, i think a 4082 2000kv would be best

[Make-a-Wake]

I still havent built mine either :(
need a new motor replacement, was going to use a 5692 1700 kv but its huge, i think a 4082 2000kv would be best

Do NOT use a 5692..............I know why too:doh: , the 4082 is perfect for that hull.

[dana]

Still nothing other than stickers...."yawn"

[iamandrew]

hahah yeah?
Ive got a spare 4074 which i might put in and see what happens, then its an easy upgrade to the 4082

[Alfa Spirit]

I still havent built mine either :(
need a new motor replacement, was going to use a 5692 1700 kv but its huge, i think a 4082 2000kv would be best

A 4082 is the right motor size or if you have oportunity for a Castle Creations 1717 (4585) 1580kV that's perfect.

[siberianhusky]

This has got to be some kind of record! 6 months, 108 posts and nothing but stickers! After all this what are you going to do if it ever gets used and gets some scratches or stress cracks? Never really understood why people spend big money/time on airbrushed paintjobs and such unless you are running in a scale class that requires it, every one of my boats has at least one good scratch or worse. Can't avoid it unless it's a shelf queen!

[dana]

This has got to be some kind of record! 6 months, 108 posts and nothing but stickers! After all this what are you going to do if it ever gets used and gets some scratches or stress cracks? Never really understood why people spend big money/time on airbrushed paintjobs and such unless you are running in a scale class that requires it, every one of my boats has at least one good scratch or worse. Can't avoid it unless it's a shelf queen!
I still think he stole this picture online and is posting as his. What a waste of thread space. There is absolutely NOTHING to be learned from this build thread....

[jujux1]

This has got to be some kind of record! 6 months, 108 posts and nothing but stickers! After all this what are you going to do if it ever gets used and gets some scratches or stress cracks? Never really understood why people spend big money/time on airbrushed paintjobs and such unless you are running in a scale class that requires it, every one of my boats has at least one good scratch or worse. Can't avoid it unless it's a shelf queen!

Poor unbelievable boy!!! :blah:

He does the same thing on french forum, everybody think the same about his attitude

[jujux1]

oups!

[Alfa Spirit]

Last version...

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/3/temp3.jpg

[dana]

More useless pictures...

[Rumdog]

hahahahahhaaaa!
Biggest joke thread, ever!

[LarrysDrifter]

So the guy likes adheseives, so what?! (sarcasm).

[jujux1]

Hi joker!!

We have already seen your picture of the hull and hardware since few weeks, what about the built ?????

[Alfa Spirit]

The Scorpion 3026 1400kV produce continuous 1700 Watts or 3400 Watts for two motors which gives 155 amps under 6S, it is widely enough !Divided by two 77,5A. The Castle Creations 1717 1580kV can redeem 3500Watts continuous. This is the motor that I have planned for the Rapid, with a Seaking 180 and I've cracked the set of Scorpion, the 1400kV are no longer manufactured I could touch has a very good price. I therefore ask myself the question mono or twin...?

[dana]

119 posts and nothing but stickers

[iamandrew]

I will build mine this weekend and post some Pics. the rudder ive got is way too big but screw it.
I need a Leopard 4082 motor still though, ive got a spare 4074, might just build it up with that and then replace it later on

[Alfa Spirit]

I you want a perfect center rudder for the Rapid ask to Hervé, here is the link

http://www.mini-meca-rc.fr/potence-130-mm


http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/2096/temp554.jpg

[Rumdog]

lol

[dana]

On man lol

[Alfa Spirit]

If I run the twin setup SCORPION 3026 1400kV, 2x6S

[dana]

:yawn:

[siberianhusky]

I think we should start a pool at 5$ a head, problem is hard to do a pool where everybody picks it'll never run!
I have to say I do always read this thread now, it's like a those brutal sports injury videos, you just have to look!

[Rumdog]

the same gear you're showing off in the venom p1 thread. get real, man. do you actually even own any of this gear? do they not have tools and epoxy in France? Worst troll ever...

[JCAustralia]

I'm just curious where those pictures come from?They are very nice though......? They could be 'stolen' from another forum, say a french forum? What do you guys think?

[Alfa Spirit]

The twin detup was for the Fountain P1 KOS but now with Scorpion 3026 1400kV motors I can put it in the Rapid. The setup changed 3 times, CC1717 to twin Scorpion

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/280/temp380.jpg

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/8688/p1hull27.jpg

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/3212/temp381.jpg

[dana]

Drill a hole already

[RIPFENCE]

lol:popcorn2:

you could drill some holes in the shoebox for practice in mounting that stuff..would be similar handling to the boat

[Make-a-Wake]

That must be 10 grand worth of stuff amassed for all these builds..................:unsure:

[LarrysDrifter]

I farted.

[Make-a-Wake]

Thought I smelled something rotten...................

[Rumdog]

don't lie... it was a shart!

[Make-a-Wake]

My Emaxx build:

[LarrysDrifter]

Wasnt me....

[Alfa Spirit]

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/280/temp380.jpg

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/8688/p1hull27.jpg

I need your advice for choosing the setup for my 39" deep vee.

Setup 1- Castle Creations1717 1580kV, Seaking 180A, two 6S 5000mAh wired in paralel

Setup 2- Two Scorpion 3026 1400kV, two Seaking 120A, two 6S 5000mAh wired in paralel

Thanks

[dana]

I have some advise, sell all your stuff cause you'll never do anything with it.

[Alfa Spirit]

Stupid reply :thumbdown:

[dana]

Stupid reply :thumbdown:
5 pages and still no holes drilled. When you show something built,other than stickers I'll apologize.

[Make-a-Wake]

Do you have a drill so when you decide you can drill the stuffing tube hole..................????

[Alfa Spirit]

Yes for sure. I just need help for the setup mono CC1717 1580kV or twin Scorpion 3026 1400kV, I' ve never build a twin.

[dana]

I would use the cc. Now you may start building

[Make-a-Wake]

1717...............got a marker and a drill?

[JCAustralia]

Lol : )

[JCAustralia]

Alpha tell us about yourself? Let us understand why you like to post to get noticed? May be we can help you.....

[Make-a-Wake]

Alpha tell us about yourself? Let us understand why you like to post to get noticed? May be we can help you.....

I asked him this a week ago on RCG:

"Can we help you in an area that may be holding you back, we will all do that if you let us know the problem."

Here was his honest reply:

"I lack of motivation, and I haven' t too much form. I hope that will change."

We can show him pictures of our transoms and draw out the proposed hole sites on a photo of one.

[siberianhusky]

I've met musicians like him. Obsessed with owning stuff, constantly buying trading etc. The idea of using it though is alien to them, always some reason why they can't play or practice. But they own thousands of $'s worth of the latest and greatest gear.

[Alfa Spirit]

Yeah I will try this twin setup in tha Rapid

2 x Scorpion 3026 1400kV 1700 Watts
2 x Seaking 120A
2 x 6S batteries

[Rumdog]

Can this be moved to jokes and funny links?

[Alfa Spirit]

Ah Ah Ah ... You' re very stupid man, are you born like this??

[Rumdog]

Lol. If you spent half the time building that you do taking fancy photos of parts and setting up displays, you'd have
10 running boats by now.

[dana]

Lol. If you spent half the time building that you do taking fancy photos of parts and setting up displays, you'd have
10 running boats by now.
This is very true!

[dana]

You can just clear coat it no problem. Use acetone to clean stickers with steel wool.

[tlandauer]

I've met musicians like him. Obsessed with owning stuff, constantly buying trading etc. The idea of using it though is alien to them, always some reason why they can't play or practice. But they own thousands of $'s worth of the latest and greatest gear.
How do you know that he is a musician? Now you have got me really worried!!! You see, I am a professional musician, am I like that? I better not post any more pictures!:roflol:

[siberianhusky]

LOL don't know if he's a musician but he does own a newer SG! Might just like taking pictures of it, was his avatar for a while.

[dana]

There's no way he would ever play a guitar, he would be too afraid of fret wear or scuff marks on the paint lol

[dana]

This thread was started 10 months ago 1-19-12. And still nothing but stickers and pictures of the same stuff. This thread is ridiculous.....

[lenny]

Hey,:tiphat:

Just not till you get a good water proof camera or camcorder, :sinking-guy:

And do not forget to add some flotation to it Just in case you fall in.:lol:


How do you know that he is a musician? Now you have got me really worried!!! You see, I am a professional musician, am I like that? I better not post any more pictures!:roflol:

[tlandauer]

Hey,:tiphat:

Just not till you get a good water proof camera or camcorder, :sinking-guy:

And do not forget to add some flotation to it Just in case you fall in.:lol:

Yes Sir!! :beerchug:

[tlandauer]

There's no way he would ever play a guitar, he would be too afraid of fret wear or scuff marks on the paint lol
:laugh::laugh::laugh:

[lenny]

:iagree:

But I keep coming back to check to see if something was done yet. :olleyes:



This thread was started 10 months ago 1-19-12. And still nothing but stickers and pictures of the same stuff. This thread is ridiculous.....

[lenny]

Did you see the video of my Shockwave heading into the lily pads,:lol:

Because I was looking at a chick with big tits with her top off on a jet ski. :drool:

[tlandauer]

Did you see the video of my Shockwave heading into the lily pads,:lol:

Because I was looking at a chick with big tits with her top off on a jet ski. :drool:
:noidea: I must have missed that one, which thread?:drool::popcorn2:

[lenny]

:popcorn2:

I looked to my left and there she was,
Hear you go,:lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wggEQC0IUP4&feature=plcp

[tlandauer]

:popcorn2:

I looked to my left and there she was,
Hear you go,:lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wggEQC0IUP4&feature=plcp
:laugh: Thanks for the link. Is that the SW 26 or the larger one , you converted it from nitro to FE right? I seemd to remember. Always liked that hull. Jumps waves real nice!

[lenny]

36" with 4074 2200kv t120a added cap on 4s with a x646/3 prop,
Thinking of putting the t600 1400kv in on 5s and see what happens.


:laugh: Thanks for the link. Is that the SW 26 or the larger one , you converted it from nitro to FE right? I seemd to remember. Always liked that hull. Jumps waves real nice!

[Alfa Spirit]

I want to finish the hull before mounting hardware : find a solution with a clear primer before apply clear coat. After, the cool job will be mounting the hardware, etc...


http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7274/temp399.jpg

[dana]

Take that hull and toss it into a wood chipper. You need to just stop posting your stupid crap. You will never do anything

[Alfa Spirit]

I like good work. Courteous rest and stop following me like a small dog whenever I post

[dana]

I like good work. Courteous rest and stop following me like a small dog whenever I post
You're a joke.

[Alfa Spirit]

The new setup, bye bye CC 1717 and welcone the twin Scorpion HK-3026 1400kV 1700 Watts

[cugino]

Hello my friend,

your HW look nice, but also heavy. Try to make as lightest build you can. Rapil likes it. I am vary courious about twin rapid handling. Thare are not lot of Rapid twins in my neighbourhood.

[Rumdog]

Never gonna happen. Wood chipper..

[Rumdog]

Seriously though.. What are you on?
How many times do you edit old posts, remove pics, then repost the same BS over, and over again. This build will NEVER happen.
How about this, If you mount that transom hardware by Sunday, I'll send you a paypal gift of $20 U.S. Seriously.

[RIPFENCE]

lol:sold:

[tlandauer]

How many times do you edit old posts, remove pics, then repost the same BS over, and over again. This build will NEVER happen.

I was a bit confused last night because I never remember seeing the CC1717, like to see it though. Went back to many older post and all the pictures were gone ( 403 Forbidden).
I thought I was losing my marbles.

[Alfa Spirit]

If you want to compare the CC 1717 and the twin Scorpion 3026

[iamandrew]

Isnt that your hull alfa ?

[Rumdog]

So, it isn't your boat at all?

[iamandrew]

my 4082 has turned up
Ive decided on running 4S on a 2000 KV Leopard and about a 42 to 45mm prop.
Next decision is on whether or not to run a Inline rudder, or an off set rudder.
Ive got two spare, so if i run the long rudder, I can do inline, or use a shorter bracket and run offset.
ive heard monos can have "turning" issues if the rudder is too far back

[cugino]

There you can see rudder too far back: http://olaf.webz.cz/Images/shockwave/DSCN9755_resize.JPG

And there you can see turning issues of the boat on picture: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcyjlySmysg

I am not sure about turning issues then.

[Alfa Spirit]

Use the long bracket rudder inline, here are examples

[forescott]

Wow are all those your boats? Nice decals.

[LarrysDrifter]

Youre funny, Scott. He doesnt own any assembeled boats. This is a show n shine thread, not a build thread.

[lenny]

That boat was running very wet,
And was nosing in at the turns and at high throttle speed bursts in the straights to.
I like the rudder off set for handling and not to sure about the inline setups so far.



There you can see rudder too far back: http://olaf.webz.cz/Images/shockwave/DSCN9755_resize.JPG

And there you can see turning issues of the boat on picture: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcyjlySmysg

I am not sure about turning issues then.

[cugino]

Yes, it was very wet drive these day, because of many leaves in autumn water kicked rudder too far back. In fresh water it is not wet at all and cornering is perfect.

[iamandrew]

Lenny, the hull is also a MHZ racemaster, as well as a MMP Rapid, Its very narrow and long and the ... flat section on the bottom of the hull, like the V down the hull to the transome is fairly long , so it runs quite flat

[Alfa Spirit]

I making two caps banks 5000µF / 35 Volts.

[Rumdog]

The new setup, bye bye CC 1717 and welcone the twin Scorpion HK-3026 1400kV 1700 Watts

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/6524/temp582.jpg
What about these?

[Rumdog]

Are those the HOR stingers?

[Heaving Earth]

What is this thread about?

[Alfa Spirit]

Are those the HOR stingers?

Yes but I use them for this 50'' FOUNTAIN P1, I order an other Speedmaster for the Rapid. I' ve got two rudders with long bracket, one for each boat

[Alfa Spirit]

What is this thread about?

This thread is about a beautiful deep vee with two Scorpion 3026 1400kV

[jkr]

Alfa
Why you don't have it ready?
So much time passed and nothing.

[Heaving Earth]

This thread is about a beautiful deep vee with two Scorpion 3026 1400kV , 6S for each combo.

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/1324/temp395.jpg

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7853/temp396.jpg

I get that part, but there's nothing here but a bunch of pictures of stuff over and over again.... Is this supposed to be a build thread?

[Heaving Earth]

Anyone notice this thread is exactly a year old today? A year!!!!

[JCAustralia]

Happy birthday : ) LOL.

[Heaving Earth]

Oops my bad it was a year on the 19th. Happy belated!

[Alfa Spirit]

Thank you, thank tou!

It take a long time because I have a job, my hobbies are not 100% model boats ,...
I changed 3 times the setup. First I wanted to use a CC 1717 but this (very good) motor have too much torque.I decided for a twin setup with FMT outrunners 1700kV . When Scorpion stopped 3026 series (now they are 3226) I had opportunity to buy a set of Scorpion 3026 1400kV, I installed FMT 1700kV in an other hull. Don' t worry about the Rapid, this hull is a real beauty, very good hardware including Speedmaster stingers, the HOR Racing one will be installed on the FOUNTAIN P1, this deep vee is 130cm long, 4092- 930kV motors and 10S for each motor

9295392952

[Heaving Earth]

It's a great looking hull, be nice to see something done to it. It doesn't take more than 2 hours to mount some hardware....

[iamandrew]

Ill try and upload some pics of mine, i finally got around to some progress .
the main issue i had, was trying to find previous builds that were similar to what i wanted to do to the hull.
2 6S packs do not fit in the hull, unless you run the motor 5CM from the transom, and then have the packs in the middle of the hull.

[Heaving Earth]

Good idea drew. After 204 posts, it would be nice to see anyone post pics of one of these things getting built )

[iamandrew]

http://i1221.photobucket.com/albums/dd462/Andrew_Grazier/Boat%20stuff/IMAG0697_zps1c1380b1.jpg

http://i1221.photobucket.com/albums/dd462/Andrew_Grazier/Boat%20stuff/IMAG0704_zps42ea68be.jpg

[Heaving Earth]

Interesting choice putting the rudder behind the prop

[Alfa Spirit]

Hi Andrew, you wanted to build a twin with Tenshock 2250 or it was somebody else? I send the master for the Rapid canopy, pdf file

[iamandrew]

well... not really Heaving, I looked it up on the net, and for some reason, every one ive found has the inline rudder. If it dosent go great, i can screw it into the other side and get it out about an inch to the starboard side. Bit worried to see how its going to go, that rudder hangs off the back ... a very far way!
http://www.offshore-rc.com/forum/uploads/post-1851-1276369530,6785_thumb.jpg
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/6590/racemaster39.jpg
http://electricpowerboats.actie-forum.com/t678p60-mhz-racemaster-twin-bouwverslag

[Alfa Spirit]

With an inline rudder and a long bracket the boat turn very well with a twin setup or a single motor


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Eps0erwJBM

[Rumdog]

Ok! Now drill!!!

[Heaving Earth]

Thanks for showing something actually built in this build thread drew

[lenny]

Hey is this the same boat ?
http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/showthread.php?32715-MHZ-Racemaster-build
Just thought if this info would help you any.



well... not really Heaving, I looked it up on the net, and for some reason, every one ive found has the inline rudder. If it dosent go great, i can screw it into the other side and get it out about an inch to the starboard side. Bit worried to see how its going to go, that rudder hangs off the back ... a very far way!
http://www.offshore-rc.com/forum/uploads/post-1851-1276369530,6785_thumb.jpg
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/6590/racemaster39.jpg
http://electricpowerboats.actie-forum.com/t678p60-mhz-racemaster-twin-bouwverslag

[iamandrew]

Yep MHZ Racemaster and the MMP Rapid is the exact same hull.
Im now going to use a 3/16 drive setup, a 45mm prop, 4082 2000kv leopard, Inline rudder, Ive made my motor mount bracket, so at the moment ....
Glue in motor mount, Bend Brass Stuffing Tube, Find location for Servo after doing those two things, glue in some battery mounts!
I allready have everything :)
I think im going to stick with 4S packs in parallel. they are cheap, and should probably get it to 40mph with 10 minute runs :)