E-Flite UMX Mig 15 EDF with AS3X

[Diesel6401]

Just seen this teaser video.... SICK, a UMX EDF from E-Flite is awesome

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G880qpino7Y&feature=g-all-u&context=G2d8df17FAAAAAAAAAAA

[Brushless55]

BAD!
that will be added to my hangar

[Diesel6401]

BAD!
that will be added to my hangar

Yea I am pumped. It looks like it might be a 35mm range of Mig not sure. I been flying the hell outta the J-Power 50mm edfs. I have the L-39 and the T-33 (which is SICK, wicked power and tricked out). My buddy had the J-Power Mig 15 and it had a WHOLE lot of issues, mostly CG issues. It was very difficult to get to fly properly. With the AS3X and E-Flite written on it... This is gonna be SICK. If the keep the price inline with there other nice umx planes should be OK. If the get above $175 with the price, might be a tough sell especially since most hobbyist can build a J-power 50mm edf into the 100mph range for that price.

[Brushless55]

post some pictures bro!
I think a small EDF could be fun.. I have two bigger ones
One is a F-14 with twin 55mm fans and a F-18 with a single 64mm fan :rockon2:
but with this gyro would make for a very smooth jet

[Chilli]

It's about time Horizon got into the scale foamie EDF game. The Habu is a great plane but I much prefer a scale fighter.

I had a Nitro Planes 50mm T-45. It was a great little plane and tough. The only thing I didnt like about it was it sounded like a hair dryer on crack. I sold it to a buddie and bought a 70mm F18 from bananna Hobby. Good looking plane, flew nice and quieter fan, but it was made of styrofoam. :thumbdown: I made a dozen successfull flights but all it took was a bad hand launch by one of my sons friends and the fuselage was totalled!! I ordered a replacement EPO fuselage from Nitroplanes.

Don't know if the AS3x is really needed in a EDF but what the heck. It tamed the UMX Beast. I owned version 1 and version 2. V1 was a handfull even with D/R and expo turned down. V2 is a totally different animal.

[Brushless55]

Oh man, I love my UMX Beast V1 and think it goes great.. so the V2 should be smooth as silk :biggrin:

[Chilli]

V1 was a real rush to fly and it really steepened my learning curve. I probably like it a little better IF flying conditions are perfect. V2 is not quite as fast though it has a higher KV motor and it doesnt snap manuevers like V1. Dont get me wrong, It's more maneuverable and quicker than just about any other micro except maybe the Sbach (which I have never flown). But where V2 really shines is when the wind is kicking up. Without a doubt the most stable micro made. I can fly her in 10-15 knot winds no problem. No bouncing around in the chop. No problems landing. Hovers a little better than V1 but still not a 3D airplane. If I run a battery dead and motor dies, I just pull back on the elevator and she'll land nose up every time. A totally different airplane than V1 but still very cool. :thumbup1:


The dang Beast also got me hooked on Biplanes. I'm waiting on a motor from Canada to finish up a Multiplex Gemini. Soon I'm going to have as many planes as boats. LOL

[Darin Jordan]

I saw this last night... totally cool! These UMX planes are just awesome, and getting better all the time!

I found these pics on the RC Groups site, posted by one of the developers...

[Diesel6401]

Yea the stock J-Power fans sound terrible. I been using the wicked wemo fans from Donsrc.com this guy is the MAN when it comes to edf in the 50,55 and 64mm range. He's a great guy to do business with and his dynamic balancing is AMAZING. My T-33 sounds smoother then my PKZ Habu and that's saying a lot. My Habu is still my pride and joy! Add a couple of HTX900 servos from Hobbyking and these little 50mm edf kits go together without any issues and talk about cheap speed. Those htx900 servos are $3 each lol and the 30amp re-branded hobbywing esc is like $15. CHEAP SPEEEEEEEEEED! Ill post some pics and a little vid later today of my T-33. I do have a stock vid of my L-39 on my youtube page. You can hear the "busted hair dyer" sound lol.

[Diesel6401]

I saw this last night... totally cool! These UMX planes are just awesome, and getting better all the time!

I found these pics on the RC Groups site, posted by one of the developers...

Man that looks awesome Darin. Did they mention or did you hear the fan size? 35mm, 50mm, 55mm ect?

[Diesel6401]

post some pictures bro!
I think a small EDF could be fun.. I have two bigger ones
One is a F-14 with twin 55mm fans and a F-18 with a single 64mm fan :rockon2:
but with this gyro would make for a very smooth jet

Here's the L-39 I had:
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__16611__Mini_L_39_EDF_Fighter_Jet_EPO_Plug_n_Fly_ USA_Warehouse_.html

Here's video, this was the first edf I ever flown. Made of EPO TOUGH little plane to break.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg0cLUVn6p8&list=UUV3Vv9FY8bLrNBa4GS8hVVg&index=7&feature=plcp

* This was the first and second flight, after I turned the expo up and it smoothed out the straight and level flight. All stock.

[Darin Jordan]

Man that looks awesome Darin. Did they mention or did you hear the fan size? 35mm, 50mm, 55mm ect?

Hahahah... NO... it's a UMX!!


Wingspan: 16.2 in (412mm)
Length: 15.9 in (402mm)
Wing Area: 53.5 sq in (3.45 sq dm)
Flying Weight: 2.75 oz (77.5g)

Here are some specs, as copied from the RC Groups site... not sure how official they are:

- High-output E-flite 28mm Delta-V® 180m EDF system
- AS3X System for ultra-smooth handling and precision
- Four-channel control including scale working rudder and nose wheel
- Fully engineered intake and exhaust ducting for maximum thrust
- High-speed brushless inrunner ducted fan motor, 11750Kv :drool:
- Near perfect scale outline, authentic detail, and graphics
- Includes high-power 2S Li-Po battery and fast charger
- Removable landing gear includes simulated gear doors
- Full Range 4+ Channel DSM2™/DSMX Aircraft Transmitter Required

[Brushless55]

Yea the stock J-Power fans sound terrible. I been using the wicked wemo fans from Donsrc.com this guy is the MAN when it comes to edf in the 50,55 and 64mm range. He's a great guy to do business with and his dynamic balancing is AMAZING. My T-33 sounds smoother then my PKZ Habu and that's saying a lot. My Habu is still my pride and joy! Add a couple of HTX900 servos from Hobbyking and these little 50mm edf kits go together without any issues and talk about cheap speed. Those htx900 servos are $3 each lol and the 30amp re-branded hobbywing esc is like $15. CHEAP SPEEEEEEEEEED! Ill post some pics and a little vid later today of my T-33. I do have a stock vid of my L-39 on my youtube page. You can hear the "busted hair dyer" sound lol.

Oh man!
I may need a link here bro.. I know some fans sound like a real turbine :drool:
I have yet to fly my jets, and to be honest I'm being a little sally about them
I'm not sure what the cg is on these planes and I hear if its not right I will have a great chance of crashing :crying:

[Diesel6401]

Hahahah... NO... it's a UMX!!


Wingspan: 16.2 in (412mm)
Length: 15.9 in (402mm)
Wing Area: 53.5 sq in (3.45 sq dm)
Flying Weight: 2.75 oz (77.5g)

Here are some specs, as copied from the RC Groups site... not sure how official they are:

- High-output E-flite 28mm Delta-V® 180m EDF system
- AS3X System for ultra-smooth handling and precision
- Four-channel control including scale working rudder and nose wheel
- Fully engineered intake and exhaust ducting for maximum thrust
- High-speed brushless inrunner ducted fan motor, 11750Kv :drool:
- Near perfect scale outline, authentic detail, and graphics
- Includes high-power 2S Li-Po battery and fast charger
- Removable landing gear includes simulated gear doors
- Full Range 4+ Channel DSM2™/DSMX Aircraft Transmitter Required

28mm holy crap thats tiny... UMX is a understatement lol. I thought the 35mm where small.


Oh man!
I may need a link here bro.. I know some fans sound like a real turbine :drool:
I have yet to fly my jets, and to be honest I'm being a little sally about them
I'm not sure what the cg is on these planes and I hear if its not right I will have a great chance of crashing :crying:

http://donsrc.com/cart/
Check his youtube sick: http://www.youtube.com/user/dslusarc
This guy is awesome to do bis with and great prices. Yea a lot of the BH and NP planes are often underpowered and cheap electronics. The CG is a issue with a lot of them, them typically come in very tail heavy which you know can lead to stalls. You have a watts meter right? If you have a smartphone check the android and should be also on the apple market for a app called "rctools" hhas a cool watts table that you enter how much your model weights including batt and it will tell you where you watts should be. I added over 100 watts to a NP edf just by getting rid of the stock lipo and using a Sky Lipo from Hobbypartz. Same cell count, just better lipo.

[Diesel6401]

You have to be kidding me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWLAZpW5yEg&feature=g-all-a&list=PL8F98CC1013D40B65&context=G2d8df17FAAAAAAAAAAA

Looks like the big boys (HH &TH) are coming out swinging at the J-Power 35mm-50mm line, this just got interesting!

[Diesel6401]

post some pictures bro!


Here's my T-33 setup, I went with it simple for battery compartment room. In my L-39 I could only get like a 3s 850-950mah size batt, in this I've fit 3s 2200mah batts in, but typically fly with 3s 1600-1800mah range for weight and cg purposes.

Kit: http://www.bananahobby.com/2124.html
Servo's ailerons(best bang for the buck ever, and easy to reverse by soldering): http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=662
Servo elevator, complete overkill but had it laying around: http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXLGJ5&P=ML
Motor/Fan 5400kv: http://donsrc.com/cart/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=97
Esc (re-branded hobbywing): http://www.hobbypartz.com/07e04-proton-30a.html
RX(these are AWESOME no glitching bind no issues with any spektrum air radio): http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__11965__OrangeRx_R610_Spektrum_DSM2_6Ch_2_4Ghz_Re ceiver_w_Sat_Port_.html

[Darin Jordan]

RX(these are AWESOME no glitching bind no issues with any spektrum air radio): http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__11965__OrangeRx_R610_Spektrum_DSM2_6Ch_2_4Ghz_Re ceiver_w_Sat_Port_.html

Just so you guys know... these RXs are created with STOLEN software, and are counterfeits... These are NOT "Spektrum" RXs...

I know nobody really cares about that kind of thing in this hobby (well... I do... but that's just me)... but I figured it was worth mentioning.

[Diesel6401]

Just so you guys know... these RXs are created with STOLEN software, and are counterfeits... These are NOT "Spektrum" RXs...

I know nobody really cares about that kind of thing in this hobby (well... I do... but that's just me)... but I figured it was worth mentioning.

Yea Hobbyking is notorious for that. Traxxas hates them for stealing there stupid traxxas plugs. A lot of guys at my field use these in high end models talking $2000 and up. I use them in "less expensive" models. For products that I LOVE i.e my pkz habu I use the ar600s. Sadly I have lost all faith in the ar500 rx's. Lost of birds lost to a issue with that rx. Darin you know I am a DIE HEART Spektrum/PB and HH fan, and out of respect I can gladly remove that link incase people don't know about the.

I actually do care about that kind of stuff, sometimes it gets hard dropping $60 each for a rx.

[Darin Jordan]

Darin you know I am a DIE HEART Spektrum/PB and HH fan, and out of respect I can gladly remove that link incase people don't know about the.
.

No worries... just thought I'd mention it.

[Brushless55]

Here's my T-33 setup, I went with it simple for battery compartment room. In my L-39 I could only get like a 3s 850-950mah size batt, in this I've fit 3s 2200mah batts in, but typically fly with 3s 1600-1800mah range for weight and cg purposes.

Kit: http://www.bananahobby.com/2124.html
Servo's ailerons(best bang for the buck ever, and easy to reverse by soldering): http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=662
Servo elevator, complete overkill but had it laying around: http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXLGJ5&P=ML
Motor/Fan 5400kv: http://donsrc.com/cart/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=97
Esc (re-branded hobbywing): http://www.hobbypartz.com/07e04-proton-30a.html
RX(these are AWESOME no glitching bind no issues with any spektrum air radio): http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__11965__OrangeRx_R610_Spektrum_DSM2_6Ch_2_4Ghz_Re ceiver_w_Sat_Port_.html

Sweet photos man!
and I hear those orange Spektrum RXs are really good
I've also heard, Spektrum may be leaving HH :spy:

[Diesel6401]

Vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWKlBmtzDuU

[Brushless55]

Vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWKlBmtzDuU

wow, lots of rpms!
what speeds do you think?
90mph+ ??

[Diesel6401]

wow, lots of rpms!
what speeds do you think?
90mph+ ??

In a dive maybe, straight and level it's in the 60mph range. EDF's LOVE the high rpm's. All that rpm and only 25amps lol...

My Habu is faster. Crappy video with a headcamera but fast forward to 1:25 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuoAtSfvUyI&list=UUV3Vv9FY8bLrNBa4GS8hVVg&index=2&feature=plcp

[Diesel6401]

Wow that's small!

[Brushless55]

Hey D, do you have a link to buy this little Jet?
Thanks...

[Diesel6401]

Hey D, do you have a link to buy this little Jet?
Thanks...

They haven't made the "offical" announcement of it yet, so no links yet. That's scheduled for 2/1/2012. Reason the video came out so early was the release of the Great Planes F-86 forced them to make some type response (so I've heard). The GP F-86 looks cool, but this looks AWESOME!

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[Chilli]

If history is any indication, don't hold your breath on 2/1. :laugh:

[Diesel6401]

If history is any indication, don't hold your breath on 2/1. :laugh:

Just the announcment not the release. Horizon will stick to there normal. Announce a product and it should be available hopefully by June or July lol. Only thing I don't like about Horizon, the E-Flite Hurricane is the perfect example. Its been so long I've lost count, still not in stock.

Tower announced the F-86 a few weeks ago and the release date is soon if not already out. Said end of Jan. That's the way it should be. I typically buy more from Horizon though. If they got a membership program like Tower and released stuff in a resonible time after anouncement they would make A LOT of people happy.... jmho.

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[Chilli]

Horizon always has the guys on RCGroups' panties in a bunch. But even though they fall behind on their delievery dates, they keep putting out a good product. In the end, everyone is happy.

I'll be looking forward ot the new micro EDF's coming out and hopefully some larger EDF's also. I have had a few of the Banana Hobby and Nitroplane EDF's. They look and fly nice but I wish quality was a little better and they were a bit more durable.

[Diesel6401]

Horizon always has the guys on RCGroups' panties in a bunch. But even though they fall behind on their delievery dates, they keep putting out a good product. In the end, everyone is happy.

I'll be looking forward ot the new micro EDF's coming out and hopefully some larger EDF's also. I have had a few of the Banana Hobby and Nitroplane EDF's. They look and fly nice but I wish quality was a little better and they were a bit more durable.

Yes there products are amazing. They discontinued the parkzone habu which is really shocking (and disappointing), but can only mean they have something else up there sleeves to fill the gap. After all the pkz habu was a huge hit! I know I LOVE mine!

I also have a lot of planes from BH and NP. The eps ones are junk, but my epo planes are just fine. I normally modify them in some way, they tend to be underpowered out the box.

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[Chilli]

My 50mm T-45 was from BH and it was a good plane (EPO) but a little underpowered. I sold it to a friend and upgraded to 70mm BH F-18. That was EPS. I was not happy with the quality but I got a dozen good flights out of....it untill my sons friend threw it into the dirt on a hand launch. :zip-up: The steerable nose gear on the POS was supported by nothing but foam. If it hit anything on the roll it would bend back 45 degrees. It did have a good motor and electronics.

I just finished installing all the electrics from that plane in a NH Exceed Diamondback F18 (EPO). Much better than the EPS jet but still not nearly the quality of HH or Multiplex. At least it has wood to help support the landing gear. BTW- Mulitplex makes a great foamie!!

Dale, you've got to come up to Greensboro for the D12 race this year. I think it's being held the weekend of May 12. Come race with us and bring a few planes for some "apres" boating activites!!

[Chilli]

Get a load of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcDN409ZBv4

[egneg]

I want one!

[Diesel6401]

Get a load of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcDN409ZBv4

That's crazy!

[Brushless55]

YEAH BABY! :banana:
http://www.e-fliterc.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdId=EFLU1680

[Diesel6401]

SICK. Great price point and fairly close release date.

Dude AS3X is taking over http://www.parkzone.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=PKZU2180 and a Feb release date, maybe HH is starting to listen about releasing product information close to the release date. Needless to say it's only Feb and this year is gonna turn out to be a great year for flying, 3 products I want from HH already!

[Darin Jordan]

Did you guys see this one too??

http://www.horizonhobby.com/products/ultra-micro-ask-21-bnf-EFLU1280

[Diesel6401]

Did you guys see this one too??

http://www.horizonhobby.com/products/ultra-micro-ask-21-bnf-EFLU1280

Darin please tell HH to slow down, it's only Feb. I'm gonna be filing for bankruptcy by July at this rate... lol

* Horizon continues to deliver amazing airplanes, which is why my fleet is FILLED with their offerings!

[Diesel6401]

Look at the low speed handling http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFz5jE-8LYU&context=C30a3c99ADOEgsToPDskI7pYYlbr9GS-pf2VO-GjDR not sure any of you guys have flown edf's, but low speed handling is typically non-existent and this mig is handling it flawlessly,as3x is working hard at that speed. Great product! I'm def gonna have to pre-order this Mig!

[Darin Jordan]

OK, now this is just getting silly! There isn't enough cash in a day to keep up!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etJ53JlJb30

[Diesel6401]

This goes with the sail plane. Really cool and a 5ch umx crazy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBwq0aGXBko&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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[Brushless55]

SICK. Great price point and fairly close release date.

Dude AS3X is taking over http://www.parkzone.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=PKZU2180 and a Feb release date, maybe HH is starting to listen about releasing product information close to the release date. Needless to say it's only Feb and this year is gonna turn out to be a great year for flying, 3 products I want from HH already!

yeah!
a 100 bucks! :drool:
I hope they start putting this into the park flyers that run on 2200mah 3s packs :sneaky2:

[Diesel6401]

yeah!
a 100 bucks! :drool:
I hope they start putting this into the park flyers that run on 2200mah 3s packs :sneaky2:

Like a parksize Carbon Z Beast 3D :Praying:

[Diesel6401]

Whats a bunch of new planes without a new radio.... OMG http://www.spektrumrc.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdId=SPM18000&view=test

[Brushless55]

Like a parksize Carbon Z Beast 3D :Praying:

how about a Stryker with it?
I've been flying my UMX Beast and Sbach on 3s and they rip!! :rockon2:
now I'm looking to get a UMX180 Stryker to try on 3s, and that axis system would be sweet on it :drool:

[Brushless55]

Whats a bunch of new planes without a new radio.... OMG http://www.spektrumrc.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdId=SPM18000&view=test

I'm not going to look.... I'm not going to look.... :crying:

[Chilli]

Parkzone is freaking killing me!!!

http://www.parkzone.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=PKZU2180

http://www.parkzone.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=PKZ5975

I see I'm a couple hours too late. LOL

[Diesel6401]

Dale, you've got to come up to Greensboro for the D12 race this year. I think it's being held the weekend of May 12. Come race with us and bring a few planes for some "apres" boating activites!!

I know man I really need to get up there. I'd love to see what you guys have and meet everyone.

[Chilli]

That would be cool if you could drop by. Bring some FE buddies. And if you want to try racing, we have a class for just about every boat. The only thing is you have to join the IMBPA.

Hey Check out this video on Nano Quadcopters. I find it very cool yet kind of creepy. Reminds me of War of the Worlds. LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmWD76jwjbQ