Another New hobbyking motor

[iamandrew]

theres a few new ones
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__18853__T5692_Turnigy_Pro_Comp_Brushless_Inrunner _Motor_1000kv.html

5692s!

[6BOOST]

You beat me to it=) These are actually TP power motors which seem to be a slightly more refined version of the leopard motor, countersunk case screws and the like. For the money I don't think the is a better 6kw motor I have seen anywhere. Get in quick before the price goes up=P

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[kendt]

That thing is a beast for sure.--10 s on a 5692 wow you could power a 12ft fishing boat with that..

[kendt]

That thing is a beast for sure.--10 s on a 5692 wow you could power a 12ft fishing boat with that..

[Brushless55]

The prices are awesome on these!

[photohoward1]

A couple of things:

1: At 1000 RPM/V this is not a 10S Motor. 40K. Your going to kill something. Controller most likely.
2: At 3.6"x2.2" this is smaller than a Nue 2215 and a Lehner 3060. I doubt this is as powerful as they say.
3: 8S yes or 9S in a hot set-up with a 452 or Bigger if the Motor can handle it. ( Doubt it though) I run a 2215 and a 3060 with a 457 or Larger and
the Motors are Physically bigger.
4: For $80 bucks give it a try.

[6BOOST]

They are the exact same thing as a leopard 5692, which people have data logged on eagle tree to over 7kw and many people have run 35-37krpm on those, the TP motors are supposedly a more refined version of the exact same motor with better bearings and build quality, if they are I don't know but they do have nice countersunk case screws and look to be better quality. Do a search for what people are running on a leopard 5692 and I'm sure you'll find plenty that are driving a 57mm prop. I'll let you know, I have 4 of them coming=)

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[Brushless55]

if it says it can take 10s than I bet it could! :wink:

[ray schrauwen]

They have 5 to choose from....

[6BOOST]

if it says it can take 10s than I bet it could! :wink:

Yeah its not often a manufacturer over rates their power handling lol.

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[znus]

Ordered a 5682 1700kv today (along with a 56 mm cooling jacket and a 8 mm to 3/16" coupler from OSE). We'll see what happens? :cool2:

[Brushless55]

Ordered a 5682 1700kv today (along with a 56 mm cooling jacket and a 8 mm to 3/16" coupler from OSE). We'll see what happens? :cool2:

what are you going to put that hoss in bro?
and how many volts are you going to run??
thanks

[znus]

what are you going to put that hoss in bro?
and how many volts are you going to run??
thanks

I have no idea, haha. I usually run hulls in the 30" range with 3674's, 4074's and 4082's like everybody else but I suspect a 5682 with a ~50 mm prop will just be way too much to handle for those kind of hulls. When I find the weapon (hull) of choice I'll begin on the slow 'n easy side with a M180 esc and 6s2p (5000 mah 25c) and Prather 225. To be honest - I bought it right away 'cause Hobby King usually add 15-20% on their prices once the sales go up.......or I'm just paranoid with a short memory :smile:

I'd really like to try those 3996's too, when they release something suitable for 6s. It just sucks to buy new LiPo's for one type of motor. I think I have 4 of 2s, 4 of 3s, 4 of 4s and 2 of 6s. It has to stop somewhere! :smile:

[Boaterguy]

what about the fightercat 41" hull?

[Make-a-Wake]

The specs on the 1000kv 5692 say 40 volts............10s = 42 fully charged..............its a perfect 8s motor. They make a 780kv which would be great for 10s.

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__18854__T5692_Turnigy_Pro_Comp_Brushless_Inrunner _Motor_780kv.html

[6BOOST]

I'd really like to try those 3996's too, when they release something suitable for 6s. It just sucks to buy new LiPo's for one type of motor. I think I have 4 of 2s, 4 of 3s, 4 of 4s and 2 of 6s. It has to stop somewhere! :smile:

Why can't you run your 6s packs on one? make it 12s. Or even better yet run 10s and make 2 pairs of packs with your 6 and 4s and you can charge one set while your driving the other. I have run the 3994 on 12s and its a monster, motor, batt and esc temps all under 100F after a full set of packs (2x6s/5ah) and will drive a 50+mm prop, the X447 I had on it did almost nothing and the 450/3 still didn't get it over 105F. Make sure you get a decent size hull if you try it tho, its is way too much for anything but saw use in anything under 40" imo.

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[znus]

Why can't you run your 6s packs on one? make it 12s. Or even better yet run 10s and make 2 pairs of packs with your 6 and 4s and you can charge one set while your driving the other. I have run the 3994 on 12s and its a monster, motor, batt and esc temps all under 100F after a full set of packs (2x6s/5ah) and will drive a 50+mm prop, the X447 I had on it did almost nothing and the 450/3 still didn't get it over 105F. Make sure you get a decent size hull if you try it tho, its is way too much for anything but saw use in anything under 40" imo.

6BOOST

I believe you. I had a feeling that thing was monster motor :cool2: My packs are all different mAh and C's and as well as not having to buy new packs I'd like to not having to buy HV-esc's. I'm cheap, at least right now. I really like the M180 and for the price it's unbeatable (imho). So, 6s at the very most. For now.

Something in the 40" range - check!

[6BOOST]

12s speedy is less than the 180: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/%5F%5F8945%5F%5FTurnigy%5FMarine%5F80A%5FHV%5FBrus hless%5FBoat%5FESC.html

Keep in mind with twice the voltage you need half the amps. But I'm sure you motor and esc combination will work nicely together. Shame your packs aren't compatible tho.

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[znus]

12s speedy is less than the 180: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/%5F%5F8945%5F%5FTurnigy%5FMarine%5F80A%5FHV%5FBrus hless%5FBoat%5FESC.html

Keep in mind with twice the voltage you need half the amps. But I'm sure you motor and esc combination will work nicely together. Shame your packs aren't compatible tho.

6BOOST

Yep, I know. I think the 80A constant rating is a bit on the low side for these big motors. I guess those HV-esc's were meant to work together with low kv 3674-4074 territory, but that's just a guess. If Im getting let's say 4000 watts out of a 5692 1000 kv on 8s - Im pulling 135A = magic smoke.

About the LiPos. Yeah, you kinda outgrow, learn new things etc. and in the end you're just buried with stuff you have no use for.

I still do run a cat with twin KB 3674 2700kv on 3s although I'm changing direction to HV and low kv. It hauls (and whips up a rooster tail of doom!) 84 km/h = 52 mph. This is on the fifth run the same day and I hope I can tune another couple of mph out of it.

65574

[6BOOST]

I think your getting the wrong idea about HV, I wouldn't call 8s HV, I'd call 10-12s HV. On 10s that esc if it meets it's rated power is capable of 3000w continuous and 6000w peak, allowing head room say 2500 and 5000, on 12s it's 3500 and 7000, so allowing headroom 3000 continuous and 6000 peak. Realistically on 12s if you were conservative on the prop and it is capable of what they rate it to it should run a 5692, I wouldn't personally try it, my intention was more for the 880kv 3994 motor on 12s which is 4000w peak. I'm gonna buy 2 and check them out, could make a cheap effective 12s controller, might be cactus on first use. Only one way to find out=)

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[znus]

I think your getting the wrong idea about HV, I wouldn't call 8s HV, I'd call 10-12s HV. On 10s that esc if it meets it's rated power is capable of 3000w continuous and 6000w peak, allowing head room say 2500 and 5000, on 12s it's 3500 and 7000, so allowing headroom 3000 continuous and 6000 peak. Realistically on 12s if you were conservative on the prop and it is capable of what they rate it to it should run a 5692, I wouldn't personally try it, my intention was more for the 880kv 3994 motor on 12s which is 4000w peak. I'm gonna buy 2 and check them out, could make a cheap effective 12s controller, might be cactus on first use. Only one way to find out=)

6BOOST

Well, it's the manufacteres of esc's who often draws the line on 6s, not me :smile: And you need some cool battery charger etc. It adds up.

[znus]

The 5682 arrived to day. It's one huge S.O.B! Where do you guys find motor mounts?

[Brushless55]

The 5682 arrived to day. It's one huge S.O.B! Where do you guys find motor mounts?
Sweet!
post some pictures if you can

[Boaterguy]

someone has a thread in the special services, he might be able to fab one for you, or go to FC.

[znus]

Here next to a brushed 400, for that important OMFG-effect :smile:

66020

[ray schrauwen]

Motor mount: http://www.etamiya.com/shop/silver-aluminum-watercooling-motor-mount-large-boat1set-p-90018942.html

It is approx. 3.5" wide. I remove the side plates & make my own.

[ray schrauwen]

Well.... can you tell if it's a 4 pole or 6pole motor??

You might be able to see the magnet segments if you remove the front cover.

Thats up to you.

[znus]

Motor mount: http://www.etamiya.com/shop/silver-aluminum-watercooling-motor-mount-large-boat1set-p-90018942.html

It is approx. 3.5" wide. I remove the side plates & make my own.

Thanks!

Will get back to you about the poles. I turned the axle one 360 and counted 18 "notches". Turning my 4-pole 4074 gave me 12 notches, if that counts for something?

[Brushless55]

Motor mount: http://www.etamiya.com/shop/silver-aluminum-watercooling-motor-mount-large-boat1set-p-90018942.html

It is approx. 3.5" wide. I remove the side plates & make my own.

9bucks! holly crud.. I may buy one and try it in my OBL

[Boaterguy]

I would assume that means 6- pole, but you never know.

[BrianW]

66028

[6BOOST]

What motor and mounts are those Brian?

[6BOOST]

The specs on the 56mm motors state that its a 4 pole, the same as TP power says they are so I'd be inclined to think they are 4 pole, and being based off the leopard and probably out of the same factory i'd be doubly inclined to think they are 4 pole just like the leopard.

I received my 4x 5692's in 750kv and 2 more of the turnigy 3994's on monday, now just to build some boats over christmas to hide everything in.

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[Boaterguy]

that 60" super daytona on all four (or three) of the 5692's would do some good.

[6BOOST]

You can't remove the shaft in an inrunner to couple them together twinline and too complicated doing 4 drives, the SD will either get two of these or twin 2028's.

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[ray schrauwen]

Unless its a really cheap inrunner, they bond the shafts in there.

Steve Neu will build you a motor with twin shafts for a few extra $$

I have a 1527 .5Y with 2 shafts. Expensive!!! ... It's for an rc car.

[6BOOST]

It's really not worth it, by the time you run 4 motors, 4 esc's and all the hassle, you could just buy 2x 3080's and have the same power and less mess and hassle, and probably still less money=) this thing doesn't need that much power, 16kw will be ample lol, the saw version will get the real grunt=)

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[ray schrauwen]

Soooo, I finally received my 1320 5692 today...

Definately NOT a leopard clone. Different core & windings 4 SURE!!
I haven't recieve my TP power motor yet to compare construction. I will follow up.
This motor has 16 steps as opposed to 12 steps for leopard motors. On the inside of a 5692 Leopard there are 12 segments in the field plates. Most likely 99.99% sure the HK motors will have 16 but, it's too hard to count unless I open it up.

For once i am stumped as to who makes these?? Or which brand it is derived from unles HK actually did request a factory to make their own brand.

I will have to consult some other motor GURU's to see if this is a 4, 6 or even an 8 pole like a Neu 2210 I had & sold. Since it has 8mm shaft & more segments the rotor turns easier than my 5692 leo.
The inner windings also stop shorter inside tha can at the rear like a 2210 Neu and unlike a leo 5692 with that looks like a longer stack. Winding wire or insulation on wire is different, much darker. Not sure what all this means. Because stack is shorter. weight is significantly lower at 815 grams compared to 880g.
Specs are rated higher than a leo as per HK and side of box.

Core resembles a Neu or Aqua craft UL1 motor in that looking from the outside in, it looks incased?? Maybe I will take it apart but, I don't really want to at this time.
WIres that exit the rear vent holes should IMO be better insulated with lots more heat shrink or Med. to large size silicone fuel tubing. 4mm ID required and rear vent holes are approx. 9mm in diameter.
I wish they would tell us how many poles it is so I don't fry an esc on testing!!!! LOL, will use cheapy esc on bench I guess.

Definately not 2 poles though.

More to come ! Merry X-mas!!!

[Boaterguy]

maybe it's a neu clone, in that case, hobbyking must really be picking up their game.

[ray schrauwen]

I wouldn't go that far but, we'll see.

[Boaterguy]

I don't mean made by neu, but a copy of what they did with lower quality parts.

[6BOOST]

They are a TP motor, I have both and other than the end bell they are identical. Further than that I have first hand info from Benjamin that TP confirmed they make them but that they have lower quality bearings and magnets. I doubt it, the look exactly the same, sounds to me like they are just trying to cover their ass cause HK are selling them so much cheaper. This would make them a 4 pole motor.

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[ray schrauwen]

Well, there you have it. Ben would know if anyone. That bites but, Ben did say he was only getting the HV low kv ones anyway.

Pretty bad, the guy has a horrible beginning to the holidays with 2 deaths in the family and now this adds his plate, not good.

[Brushless55]

So these motors sound like a winner!
And for much cheaper than we could get any where else... :)
Might have to give one of these a try in a big mono..

[Boaterguy]

out of all due respect, i would rather buy the motors from ben, not because they are better but just because of what he is going through and the face that he isn't a big company that only relies on bulk of sales and not customer satisfaction.

[6BOOST]

I'm sure Ben isn't too concerned about the cost of a few motors, if it's not in his better business interests because HK sell them so much cheaper I'm sure he'll just stop carrying them. I personally have 2 of the TP's supplied by Ben and 4 of the same Kv motors from HK, so I can thrash the crap out of the HK versions, and even if I burn them up pushing them hard I'll have a good idea of what they can take before throwing the TP's in.

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[Brushless55]

Soooo, I finally received my 1320 5692 today...

Definately NOT a leopard clone. Different core & windings 4 SURE!!
I haven't recieve my TP power motor yet to compare construction. I will follow up.
This motor has 16 steps as opposed to 12 steps for leopard motors. On the inside of a 5692 Leopard there are 12 segments in the field plates. Most likely 99.99% sure the HK motors will have 16 but, it's too hard to count unless I open it up.

For once i am stumped as to who makes these?? Or which brand it is derived from unles HK actually did request a factory to make their own brand.

I will have to consult some other motor GURU's to see if this is a 4, 6 or even an 8 pole like a Neu 2210 I had & sold. Since it has 8mm shaft & more segments the rotor turns easier than my 5692 leo.
The inner windings also stop shorter inside tha can at the rear like a 2210 Neu and unlike a leo 5692 with that looks like a longer stack. Winding wire or insulation on wire is different, much darker. Not sure what all this means. Because stack is shorter. weight is significantly lower at 815 grams compared to 880g.
Specs are rated higher than a leo as per HK and side of box.

Core resembles a Neu or Aqua craft UL1 motor in that looking from the outside in, it looks incased?? Maybe I will take it apart but, I don't really want to at this time.
WIres that exit the rear vent holes should IMO be better insulated with lots more heat shrink or Med. to large size silicone fuel tubing. 4mm ID required and rear vent holes are approx. 9mm in diameter.
I wish they would tell us how many poles it is so I don't fry an esc on testing!!!! LOL, will use cheapy esc on bench I guess.

Definately not 2 poles though.

More to come ! Merry X-mas!!!

any more info Ray?
thanks for the update on your findings... :tiphat:

[6BOOST]

Maybe everyone missed my post, the motors are made by TP power, and rebranded Turnigy. Nothing to find out. And they are a 4 pole motor.

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[Brushless55]

any more info Ray?
thanks for the update on your findings... :tiphat:

Looking forward to your testings Ray, on these Turnigy/TP motors :popcorn2:

[FighterCat57]

Interesting for sure. I wouldn't hesitate to get one. Too bad they don't have them in 540kv.

Higher temp epoxy and Japanese bearings are helpful in race conditions, but may not noticeably affect the performance for the bulk of the market.

I'll release what I know once I get approval to do so. =)

Meanwhile... HK has a habit of low cost until popular... With the 6.34 dollars to 1 was in our favor... I could use 600% markup just in currency conversion.