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markymizzle
04-03-2008, 12:28 AM
Just curious if you guys think it MIGHT work....putting the traxxas vxl brushless system in a boat?

Here are the specs of the ESC:

VXL-3s ESC SPECIFICATIONS
Input voltage: NiCad/NiMH 4-9 Cells
(4.8 to 10.8 Volts DC)
Input voltage: LiPo 2-3 Cells (7.4 to 11.1 Volts DC)
Case Size: 39mmW x 55mmD x 33mmH
Weight: 90 grams
Motor Limit: None
On Resistance Forward: 0.00075 Ohms
On Resistance Reverse: 0.00075 Ohms
Peak Current - Forward: 320A
Peak Current - Reverse: 320A
Braking Current: 320A
Continuous Current: 200A
BEC Voltage: 6.0V
BEC Current: 2.5A (with 6-cell NiMh)
Power Wire: 12 Gauge Maxx® Cable
Input Harness Wire: 26 Gauge / 100mm
Transistor Type: MOSFET
Low Voltage Detection: Auto-detect (2-S or 3-S Lipo),
2-Stage indicators, switchable
(on or off)
Thermal Protection: 2-Stage thermal shutdown

And the motor:
Velineon 3500 Features

- Ultra high-temperature sintered Neodymium magnets provide massive torque and linear power
- Optimized for power and efficiency in 1/10th scale vehicles
- Consistent, high-power output, run after run
- Low-maintenance, unique Traxxas design
- Efficient, high-speed ball bearings
- Low maintenance design
- Precision-balanced rotor
- Solder tabs
- Protective end cap
- 10-Turn, 3500kV
- Rebuildable
- Hex hardware
- Brilliant blue-anodizing finish
- Silicon steel laminations
- Delivers more power than comparable brushed motors





I know this idea is a little out there but I have one already, and would be tempted to put it in a SV.

Figure could hookup the water cooling to the motor easily, and maybe some creativity could keep the esc cool.

Do you guys think it would work? Is this even enough power for a boat?

TeamFubarRacing
04-03-2008, 08:24 AM
Just curious if you guys think it MIGHT work....putting the traxxas vxl brushless system in a...

I know this idea is a little out there but I have one already, and would be tempted to put it in a SV.

Figure could hookup the water cooling to the motor easily, and maybe some creativity could keep the esc cool.

Do you guys think it would work? Is this even enough power for a boat?



not out there at all IMO...

a high torque 3500 kv brushless motor, a programable 200 amp esc with a built-in [fan port] for adding fan cooling...

i run this system on [2s] in a stock Traxxas Stampede and beat on it bad and it comes back for more!

in the right [N-2] mono or sport hydro hull, i have no doubt it can get the job done for sport fun on a pond near you :w00t:

Capt'n Ron

markymizzle
04-03-2008, 10:21 AM
Best part is I am pretty sure the ESC is "water resistant" so with a little work things might turn out pretty good...atlease the VXL has thermo protection so I could worry less about that any keep an eye on the motor

RCprince
04-03-2008, 05:31 PM
I looked at those same specs and though of running a Neu 1515 1D(4100kv) on 2 3s in parallel according to claims the esc can handle 200 amps continuously...this is not a bad price for the kit http://cgi.ebay.com/Traxxas-Velineon-Brushless-System-3350-VXL-ESC-Motor_W0QQitemZ220219769887QQihZ012QQcategoryZ4402 8QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

markymizzle
04-03-2008, 05:37 PM
Think this system would be too much in an SV? I am tempted to try it out because I wouldn't have to buy another lipo!

TeamFubarRacing
04-03-2008, 06:22 PM
in the right [N-2] mono or N-2 sport hydro hull, i have no doubt it can get the job done for sport fun on a pond near you :w00t:

Capt'n Ron

N-2 Sport Hydro is where i'd start with this power system to test it's rc boating capabilities...

on [2s] in one of Steven's new 23 7/8" sport hydro's turning a X440... or perhaps in a Vac-U-Pickle...

if you go mix'n and match'n motors and try use'n [3s] off the bat with this esc you might be rolling the $$$$ dice...

be prudent till more info. is in on this power system...

that's my 2 cents...

Ron

Rex R
04-03-2008, 07:40 PM
I wouldn't try that motor w/ a 440...432 maybe. consider, that motor at 1st glance has similar specs as a feigao 540 10s. if one were to run it with a gearbox it might work in a sv, I would think a 25" boat would be pushing its limits on direct drive. note;
I waqs told that novak does NOT reccomend their bl car motors for marine(boat) use.

markymizzle
04-03-2008, 07:47 PM
Do u think it would be crazy to try this set up with a direct drive on 3s?

H&MWill
04-03-2008, 07:55 PM
I have this ESC and motor in my HPI and Traxxas trucks. The esc is not very water resistant. I have no idea how you would adequately cool it. I am running 2S in the trucks and it gets pretty warm. I dont think its gonna last in a SV. I have 2 SV's but didnt feel like wasting this ESC combo just to find out it couldnt handle it. For the price why not just get of the Traxxas system why not just go Hydra 120 and Feiago XL. Just a thought.

TeamFubarRacing
04-03-2008, 09:24 PM
i've been wanting to try one on 2s in a Vac-U-Pickle anyway...

the esc has a built-in power port for a Traxxas accessory cooling fan...

i'll let you know how it goes...

Ron

H&MWill
04-03-2008, 09:56 PM
Ron, sounds good. Please let us know. Thanks

ace028
04-04-2008, 09:59 PM
I use the traxxas motor in my crackerbox with a mamba max esc, with a maxamps 4000 2 cell lipo and a silicone waterjacket on a x430 prop, and the motor don't even get warm. Its not really fast with that prop, but it has great run time.

all in
05-26-2008, 08:02 PM
They installed two of them in Radio controlled boat magazine this month in a villain ex

SJFE
05-26-2008, 08:06 PM
I am off to the local mag shop. I gota see this.

ETOWNE
05-26-2008, 09:53 PM
They installed two of them in Radio controlled boat magazine this month in a villain ex

Pretty cool looking build. Would be nice to see a video of the boat.

JeepRubicon2k3
05-28-2008, 10:40 PM
That would be nasty! I gotta see this.

Mich. Maniac
05-29-2008, 12:03 AM
I love how it says... Motor limit---None!!! Kinda like Stevens new esc.. Amp limit more than you can handle!

blastoff
05-29-2008, 10:53 PM
Here are some snips of what R/C Boat had to say about putting the two Velineon 3500 Brushless Motors in the EX

Project Villaineon
The Verdict
I think a few of my fellow RC Boat Modelers Staffers where secretly hoping to see Project Villaineon end in a spectacular meltdown. But I am happy to report that the brushless equipped Villain was surprisingly drivable.

At part throttle with the NiMH packs it felt like a villain with a extra couple of cells. But lay on the trigger, and the speed just keeps on building. With the 3S LiPos, it's a handful, Only because the extra grunt put through the steerable outdrives made it prone to hooking. The straight line speed was truly breathtaking.

Project villaineon will flirt with 40mph.

By Matt Boyd

JeepRubicon2k3
05-30-2008, 12:35 AM
Lets see this pig!

3rcman
07-06-2010, 12:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6ZUndPQPSM apache with a vxl and mamba max 3s stock prop,,,gets warm/hot

Doby
07-06-2010, 12:32 PM
2 year old thread brought back to life.

3rcman
07-06-2010, 03:45 PM
sorry bout that...