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Ocean Racer
03-22-2008, 02:39 AM
This is most likely the best sniper of WWII he was a Russian sniper he killed around 400 German soldiers. If any of u want to add more to this that is not here go ahead im all ears.

"...await the right moment for one, and only one well-aimed shot"
Vassili Zaitsev


The story of Vassili Zaitsev has long been believed to be a historical fact. However, there has not been any documented proof that the legendary sniper duel between Zaitsev and Konig ever took place. As a matter of fact, Beevor's account mentions Koning and other accounts mention a Thorwald. I am inclined to believe that the Soviet Command invented this story to inspire the beleaguered troops of Stalingrad in their darkest hours of fighting the German onslaught. As a matter of fact, I had an occasion to interview an elderly Russian gentleman who claimed to have trained under Zaitsev in Stalingrad. When I asked about the duel, he replied something to the effect of, "Its true if that is want you want to believe". I don't doubt that many duels occurred between the snipers of both sides. However, to believe that the German High Command went to the trouble to commit the chief instructor of their sniper school to finding and killing one Soviet sniper is a lot to accept. That being said the story goes like this.....

To study the 91/30 Sniper rifle, it's useful to understand it's role in the critical stages of the Great Patriotic War. One of those critical stages was the battle for Stalingrad. The Sniper was key to harassing and demoralizing the attacking German forces. As the struggle for Stalingrad ensued, the snipers involved became Soviet heroes. One of them was Vassili Zaitsev. He became famous after the press had discovered that he accomplished nearly 40 kills in a ten day period. He was renown for taking out his targets using a single round. It was a skill he had learned while shooting deer in the forests around Elininski, his home in the Ural Mountain foothills. On September 20, 1942, Zaitsev went to Stalingrad with the 284th Rifles Division. As his accomplishments made him a national hero, and as his fame spread across no-man's-land, the Germans took an inordinate interest in him. Major Koning was dispatched to Stalingrad from Berlin for the express purpose of eliminating the top Soviet snipers. Vassili Zaitsev, was high on his list. The Soviets learned of Konig's mission through interrogating a prisoner. Antony Beevor wrote, "Like Zaitsev, Koning first made a careful study of the terrain and of his victims before attempting a kill. When two Soviet snipers were killed by single rifle shots, Zaitsev began counter-stalking Koning himself. The duel lasted for several days. During this time Koning shot a political officer named Danilov who was "covering" the duel for Soviet propaganda (Danilov accompanied Zaitsev and stupidly gave away their position). Zaitsev finally got Koning by offering another sniper, his assistant Zulikov, as bait. Zulikov positioned himself and lifted his helmet over a wall, where Koning put a bullet through it. Kulikov cried out as if hit. Koning made the fatal mistake of exposing himself to confirm the kill, and Zaitsev shot him dead. The telescopic sight of his prey's rifle, allegedly Zaitsev's most treasured trophy, is still exhibited in the Moscow armed forces museum, but this dramatic story remains essentially unconvincing. It is worth noting that there is absolutely no mention of it in any reports.* "*Antony Beevor - Stalingrad, The fateful siege : 1942 - 1943.


Here is the site I found it on while doing a search for sniper pics the story is all the way down at the bottom. Click Here (images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.russian-mosin-nagant.com/images/sniper4a.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.russian-mosin-nagant.com/soviet_sniper_article.htm&h=321&w=471&sz=115&hl=en&start=39&tbnid=voZt26XzuNvPdM:&tbnh=88&tbnw=129&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsniper%26start%3D36%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp% 3D18%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN)

SJFE
03-22-2008, 09:16 AM
I am sure you have seen it but for others there is is great movie based on this story. It is worth an our and a half. Jay do you sport shoot?

Fluid
03-22-2008, 10:40 AM
Enemy at the Gates starred Ed Harris and Jude Law in the roles of the two snipers. Like all Hollywood movies it is more fiction than fact, but a good film none the less. Factual information about Zaitsev is tough to come by - the Soviets were the original drama queens and twisted facts badly to suit their political ends. Myth becomes fact, legend becomes history..and the victors write the history books. It's a lot easier to validate Carlos Hathcock's career than it is Zaitsev's, but fact or fiction both are very interesting.


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Ocean Racer
03-23-2008, 01:09 AM
SJFE by sport shot do u mean clay and targets or do you mean like hunting for animals? I do both right now im a ok shot but am getting better.
So true Fluid if u know the right people you can twist anything around. I have seen most of Enemy at the Gate but i didnt see the ending. Next time we go get a movie ill look for it. Thank you both for your reply