2012 NAMBA FE Nationals June 19th-23rd @ Legg Lake

[D. Newland]

Please see Post #2 below for information about the FE Nationals at Legg Lake June 19th-23rd and Saturday's class list.


Tuesday, June 19th Open Water


Wednesday, June 20th:

N-2 Mono Sponsored by NAMBA District 19 (http://www.namba19.com/)


David Newland

Tyler Garrard

Ken Haines

Jason Sims


Dougie Twaits


Wilmer Oxidean


Mike Paganelli


Darin Jordan

Mark Ferreira


P Sport Hydro Sponsored by NAMBA District 1 (http://namba-1.com/)


David Newland

Darin Jordan

Brian Buaas

Ted McKay


Tony Heller


Jim Osborne

Mike Shaughnessy


Stephen Williamson

Ken Haines

Jason Sims


Wilmer Oxidean


Steve Lopez


Dougie Twaits


Tyler Garrard

P Hydro Sponsored by Andy Brown at Andy Brown CMDRacing (http://www.cmdracing.com/updated/main.htm)


Brian Buaas

Tyler Garrard

Dougie Twaits


Wilmer Oxidean


Mike Paganelli


Mark Grim

Darin Jordan

John Morana


David Newland


P-Ltd Cat (sprint) Sponsored by Benjamin @ Fightercat Racing (http://fightercatracing.com/)


Tony Heller


Darin Jordan

Brian Buaas

Ted McKay


Mike Shaughnessy


Stephen Williamson

Wilmer Oxidean


Kylie Morana


Jim Marcum

Q Mono Sponsored by Jay Stone JS Innovative Designs


David Newland

Tyler Garrard

Ken Haines

Mark Ferreira


Jason Sims



Thursday, June 21st:

Kim Grim's BBQ Lunch Sponsored by Benjamin @ Fightercat Racing (http://fightercatracing.com/)

N-2 Offshore Sponsored by Dairymasters/Doug Peterson


David Newland

Darin Jordan

Tyler Garrard

Jim Marcum

Ken Haines

Jason Sims


Dougie Twaits


Wilmer Oxidean


Mike Paganelli


P Ltd Offshore Sponsored by MMEU Racing (http://www.mmeu.com/)


David Newland

Darin Jordan

Brian Buaas

Ted McKay


Tony Heller


Jim Marcum

Mike Shaughnessy


Stephen Williamson


Ken Haines

Jim Osborne

Jason Sims


Dougie Twaits


Wilmer Oxidean


Lenny Blake

Mark Ferreira


Mike Paganelli


John Morana


Kylie Morana


Brad Royer


P Offshore Sponsored by SoCal FE


David Newland

Darin Jordan

Ted McKay


Jim Marcum

Mike Shaughnessy


Ken Haines

John Knight


Jason Sims


Dougie Twaits


Mark Ferreira


Mike Paganelli


Q Offshore Sponsored by Bubblegum Racing


David Newland

Ken Haines

Mark Ferreira


Mike Paganelli


Tyler Garrard

T Offshore Sponsored by Mark @ Performancerclipos.com (http://performancerclipos.com/)


Tyler Garrard

Jim Marcum

Ken Haines

Wilmer Oxidean


Mike Paganelli


Mark Ferreira


Friday, June 22nd:

Kim Grim's lunch Sponsored by Lenny Blake @ Rumracing Products (http://www.rumracingproducts.com/)

N-2 Sport Hydro Sponsored by NAMBA District 19 (http://www.namba19.com/)

Ken Haines

Jason Sims


Dougie Twaits


Wilmer Oxidean


Kylie Morana


P-Ltd Mono sponsored by Rumrunner Hobbies (http://rumrunnerhobbies.com/)


David Newland

Darin Jordan

Brian Buaas

Dick Roberts

Kim McKay


Tony Heller


Ken Haines

Jim Osborne

Jason Sims


Lohring Miller

Dougie Twaits


Wilmer Oxidean


Lenny Blake

Mark Ferreira


Mike Paganelli


Steve Lopez


Brad Royer


Kylie Morana


P-Ltd OPC sponsored by Scottsdale Model Boaters


David Newland

Darin Jordan

Brian Buaas

Gary Rose

Ken Haines

Lohring Miller

Wilmer Oxidean


Brad Lewis

John Morana


Kylie Morana


Randy Naylor


1/6th Crackerbox Sponsored by NAMBA District 19 (http://www.namba19.com/)


Dick Roberts

Gary Rose

Kim McKay


Wilmer Oxidean


P Mono Sponsored by Dairymasters/Doug Peterson


David Newland

Darin Jordan

Dick Roberts

Ted McKay


Tony Heller


Tyler Garrard

Stephen Williamson

Ken Haines

Gary Rose

Jason Sims


Dougie Twaits


Mark Ferreira


Mike Paganelli


Steve Lopez


Q Hydro Sponsored by Rumrunner Hobbies (http://rumrunnerhobbies.com/)

Ken Haines[/LIST]

Dougie Twaits


Mike Paganelli


Brian Buaas

T Sport Hydro Sponsored by Jan @ Kintec Racing (http://kintecracing.com/)


Brian Buaas

Tyler Garrard

Lohring Miller

Ken Haines

Randy Naylor


1/10th Scale Modern Sponsored by The Great Lakes Boat Shop


Dick Roberts

Gary Rose

Ron Daum

Ted McKay


Lohring Miller


Brad Lewis

John Morana

[D. Newland]

Saturday, June 23rd:

N-2 Hydro Sponsored by The Wave Blasters of Florida (http://waveblasters.org/)


Ken Haines

Wilmer Oxidean


Jason Sims


Darin Jordan


P-Ltd Hydro Sponsored by Puget Sound Fast Electrics Model Boat Club (http://psfastelectrics5.com/)


David Newland

Darin Jordan

Brian Buaas

Dick Roberts

Tyler Garrard

Ken Haines

Jason Sims


Lohring Miller

Dougie Twaits


Wilmer Oxidean


Brad Lewis

Mark Grim

John Morana


Russ Stark

P-Ltd Sport Hydro Sponsored by Jeff Machaud @ Insane Boats (http://www.insaneboats.com/)


David Newland

Todd Fleury

Darin Jordan

Brian Buaas

Gary Rose

Ted McKay


Tony Heller


Jim Osborne

Tyler Garrard

Mike Shaughnessy


Stephen Williamson

Ken Haines

Kerry Winkle

Jason Sims


Dougie Twaits


Wilmer Oxidean


Leonard Feeback

Mark Ferreira


Steve Lopez


Kerry Winkle

Naveed Naseer

Kylie Morana


Brad Royer


Russ Stark


Randy Naylor


1/10th Scale Vintage Sponsored by Rod Sonata-Rocky Mountain Thunderboats


Dick Roberts

Gary Rose

Ted McKay


Ron Daum

Leonard Feeback

Don Ast

Brad Lewis

John Morana



T Mono Sponsored by Delta Force (http://www.deltaforce-hk.com/df/index.html)


David Newland

Tyler Garrard

Ken Haines

Mark Ferreira


1/8th Scale Sponsored by Southern California Scale Thunderboat Association


Todd Fleury

Brian Buaas

Dick Roberts

Gary Rose

Ron Daum

Brad Lewis

Randy Naylor


High Points Award sponsored by Bubblegum Racing
Concours Award sponsored by Bubblegum Racing
Mr. Offshore Award sponsored by Bubblegum Racing

Raffle donors:

Aquacraft (http://aquacraftmodels.com/)
Pat @ RC Lipos.com (http://rclipos.com/)
Andy Brown CMDRacing (http://www.cmdracing.com/updated/main.htm)
Harry @ RSF Speedmaster/Rossi Sales (http://rossisales.com/)
Eagletree Systems (http://www.eagletreesystems.com/)
WD-40


Information will be added to this thread as details develop.

Thank you for your consideration and support.

Crackerbox rules

It is my pleasure to announce the 2012 NAMBA FE Nat's, Title Sponsored by our very own Steven Vaccaro at Offshoreelectrics.com!

The event will be hosted by NAMBA District 19 clubs Scottsdale Model Boaters and SoCal FE on June 19th - 23rd, 2012. The location will be @ Legg Lake in S. El Monte, Ca.

Legg Lake has a separate park entrance for model boaters. Please see the highly scientific map attachment.

Lenny Blake (http://www.rumracingproducts.com/) is on board to call the race. Lenny has been calling the Az Winter Warmups races for the past 7 years, as well as numerous nitro/gas events and I'm excited to have him on board for this event.

Race schedule is listed above. 4 boat minimum with a paid cut-off date of May 19th. Sign ups will be taken after this date, but any class that doesn't have 4 paid entries by this date will be dropped from the schedule. No refunds after May 19th.

Drivers meeting promptly @ 8:30. Racing promptly at 9:00

$25 for first class, $10 for each additional class.

Banquet cost: $35.

T-Shirt: $20.

Payment deadline for classes and banquet is May 19th. Either your classes on this thread or PM/Email me. I will then send you a formal Welcome Letter and sign up document.

For those racing the Phil Thomas Stealth Sport Hydro, please make sure your hull conforms to the 65% rule (Bottom of transom / width between sponson plane surfaces).

Host hotel will be the Ramada (http://www.ramada.com/hotels/california/south-el-monte/ramada-el-monte/hotel-overview). Special room rate (Keyword: NAMBA) $79 for King and $85 for (2) double beds. The banquet will be here as well, and the hotel has a restaurant/bar located on the premises.

Other hotel options: Motel 6 (http://www.motel6.com/reservations/motel_detail.aspx?num=196&utm_source=googleplaces&utm_medium=local&utm_campaign=local) and Holiday Inn Express (http://www.hiexpress.com/hotels/us/en/rosemead/rsmex/hoteldetail/directions)

[DPeterson]

The famous Legg Lake, the Scottsdale Club along with the SoCal Club and Lenny Blake - priceless!

I will commit as long as Tony (propperchopper) promises to show me the LA Hot Spots.

Doug

[properchopper]

The famous Legg Lake, the Scottsdale Club along with the SoCal Club and Lenny Blake - priceless!

I will commit as long as Tony (propperchopper) promises to show me the LA Hot Spots.

Doug

You're on Doug. I'll reserve tickets to the opening of the Redondo Beach Kabuki Ballet and seek out other culturally enlightening venues as well, especially the Hermosa Beach Transgender Tap Dancing Accordian Players Revue.

[Steven Vaccaro]

I would love to race there. Every time I see the pictures of that place it makes me drool.

[DPeterson]

Ah Tony; too much culture - will be looking for something more simple like something with a view of bikinis. :)

Am going to put this on my calander. Hope I can get a least one of the WI-MN crew to go.

Doug

[Darin Jordan]

This sounds like the place to be next June... Count me in!!

[D. Newland]

I appreciate your consideration, guys! I know it's tough...and getting tougher to travel so I wanted to give you a firm date with as much advanced notice as possible. You know, for planning and such. If there is anything I or Tony can do to help, please don't hesitate to ask.

[ron1950]

hope the races will be on the internet. its just too dam far to go from mississippi......i have picked up a few drag boats from so cal and swore id never drive all the way across texas again ......lol

[raptor347]

I'll be there, I'll drag a few others down with me. I'm thinking it's going to take a shoe horn to get everything in the trailer.

[properchopper]

Ah Tony; too much culture - will be looking for something more simple like something with a view of bikinis. :)

Am going to put this on my calander. Hope I can get a least one of the WI-MN crew to go.

Doug

Doug,

My bikini doesn't fit anymore; maybe we can talk David into wearing his :crying:

[DPeterson]

Tony,

We better take this conversation offline. We have a definate communication issue!

Doug

[Jeff]

It's a trap!

[ron1950]

like don said over on rum runner...what happened to ny/nj for next year?

[D. Newland]

They declined.

[RandyatBBY]

I will have to get the Rolling Ghetto smogged and insured so I can attend. I will not be able to run a lot of classes as I did before. too old and I need sleep. How long until a schedule of classes run for the day's will be out? I really need it to be able to plan.

Dream schedual would have a little of everything each day. Not all offshore one day Not all sports the next Not all hydros and Not all scales the last day

[D. Newland]

The schedule will be the next update to this thread. I already have a rough draft, so it will be soon.

[RandyatBBY]

Cool!

[D. Newland]

Schedule has been posted on the OP. Randy-I was able to work with 3 of the 4 nots. Offshore will all be on 1 day.

[D. Newland]

Thank you Great Lakes Boat Shop for sponsoring 1/10th Scale Modern!

[JIM MARCUM]

Count me in for Offshore classes N-2; P; maybe Q; and positively T. JIM

[D. Newland]

Will do, Jim. We'll start getting the official sign ups going after the New Year. Glad to already know of a T boat that will be there!

[Darin Jordan]

Will do, Jim. We'll start getting the official sign ups going after the New Year. Glad to already know of a T boat that will be there!

If I don't end up selling my Gas Sniper 45 hull/hardware here shortly... there may be another one there! ;)

[RandyatBBY]

N-2 Mono, P Sport Hydro, Q Mono,

N-2 Offshore, P Offshore,T Offshore,

N-2 Sport Hydro, P-Ltd OPC, T Sport Hydro,

N-2 Hydro, P-Ltd Sport Hydro, 1/8th Scale.

This would be the classes I would run. Some days I almost want to run them all but I am way too old to do that. I would love to see P-Ltd OPC and P-Ltd Hydro switched, then I would be as happy as a pig in S##@.:smile:

[Ub Hauled]

Steven V., are you coming to the West Coast?

It'll be nice to see you NW people and meeting some new folks,
looking forward to it.

[Steven Vaccaro]

Steven V., are you coming to the West Coast?

It'll be nice to see you NW people and meeting some new folks,
looking forward to it.

I would like to, but as of now its not in the cards.

[raptor347]

I'm limiting myself to 3 classes per day. Just need to decide which 3.

[D. Newland]

OP has been updated with more sponsorship support. Thank you!

If you are in a position to help sponsor a class and/or support our raffle, it would be greatly appreciated. We are now beating the sponsorship drum from now until June 19th!

Hotel and banquet information will be posted shortly.

[JIM MARCUM]

Here's my hopefully final list:

1. N-2 OFFSHORE CAT
2. P LTD OFFSHORE CAT
3. P OFFSHORE CAT
4. T OFFSHORE CAT

Dave also asked me to be (in my words) the "OFFICIAL NAMBA LEGG LAKE NATIONALS SCUBA RETRIEVAL DIVER", and I accepted. So Joe V., you'll get a chance to see my skills in action.

Looks like I will be busier than a one legged man in an ass kicking contest. Gonna be a blast!

Dave, how much is this gonna cost me for entry fees? RSVP

JIM

[D. Newland]

Jim, Thanks for accepting. I'm hopeful that having you signed on as the diver means that we won't need a diver! But, it's good insurance.

I'll have the race fees figured shortly.

[D. Newland]

For those racing the Phil Thomas Stealth Sport Hydro, please make sure your hull conforms to the 65% rule (bottom of transom / width between sponson planing surfaces).

The original post has also been updated with this information and it is being posted to allow as much time as possible to address this situation.

Please-no posts on this thread about this. They will be deleted. There are other threads open for discussion on this topic.

[Todd Fleury]

See everyone there. I will be running 1/8th scale hydro. Won't be able to fly in until the Friday though. Have to work.

[D. Newland]

Glad to hear, Todd. I am hopeful that the 1/8th scale class will make the 4 boat minimum and it's good to know you'll be there. Not many of them exist on the left coast, so you posting this early will hopefully get Naylor on board, as well as a few Az guys that (I think) have plans to build them before the Nat's.

[D. Newland]

I got word that Kim Grim is in for BBQ lunch assistance! I have often heard about it, but never tasted it.

The Ramada will be the host hotel and I will have information posted shortly. Working on the banquet and room rate details.

[Todd Fleury]

I spoke with Randy over the weekend, and he says he is in. I'm now running LSH and 1/8th.

[raptor347]

I got word that Kim Grim is in for BBQ lunch assistance! I have often heard about it, but never tasted it.

Just when I manage to lose a little weight! You guys will not be disappointing. I've never had a meal that Kim made that wasn't fantastic.

At the last SAWs, the pulled pork was so good we couldn't get anyone to put a boat in the water during lunch (and the lake was glass smooth).

[D. Newland]

OP updated with host hotel information.

[egneg]

Will t-shirts be available. I had one sent to me from the 2011 FE nats and would like a 2012 if they are making them.

[properchopper]

Will t-shirts be available. I had one sent to me from the 2011 FE nats and would like a 2012 if they are making them.

Being worked on as we speak. Will hold one for you for sure :smile:

[D. Newland]

Thank you MMEU for stepping up to the sponsorship plate!

[Todd Fleury]

Went to make my reservation for the hotel, and the code is not working yet - Rate NAMBA is not available for the dates you requested. Do we need to call it in to make the reservation?

[D. Newland]

Please call them directly. (626)350-9588. NAMBA may not be logged into their website. Also, I just set this deal up yesterday, but I bet if you call the front desk, they will get it done. If not, PM me and I'll get is square.

Thank you for your commitment! I will open class sign-ups Feb 1st.

[Todd Fleury]

Thanks, I tried the website and it did not work. I'll be sure to give them a call and let you know.

[D. Newland]

Thank you Aquacraft (http://aquacraftmodels.com/) for stepping up to the plate with a very, very nice raffle donation!

[egneg]

Being worked on as we speak. Will hold one for you for sure :smile:

Thanks Tony!

[D. Newland]

Race signups are open.

$25 first class, $10 each additional class. Payment deadline, as well as class cut off date (4 min to run) is May 19th. This also includes the banquet cost so I have an accurate head-count for the host hotel.

Banquet and shirt costs are still being finalized, but I'm shooting for $35 and $25 respectively.

OK to list post your classes here and also please PM me your email address and cell phone # if I don't have it already. If you have posted already, please re-post it after this thread.

Thank you for your consideration, gentlemen! I promise you this will be an event worth attending. If you're on the fence, make the commitment. You won't be sorry.

[Darin Jordan]

Race signups are open.



David... have you posted a link to the "Official" Nats site yet??

[D. Newland]

OSE is the official Nat's site...Are you talking about NAMBA's site? If so...yes, I'm working on that. I didn't realize it was missing until Jim called me over the weekend.

[Darin Jordan]

OSE is the official Nat's site...Are you talking about NAMBA's site? If so...yes, I'm working on that. I didn't realize it was missing until Jim called me over the weekend.

Just looking for wherever we need to go to sign up... :patriot:

[D. Newland]

Right here. You'll then receive an email with some more race info!

[Todd Fleury]

I am running LSH and 1/8th Scale. Namba 9 - #495

[D. Newland]

Received, Todd. Thank you.

The OP will be built with racer info as we get closer to June 19th! It will be here before you know it.

[Darin Jordan]

David,

Here is my entry list as of today. I may adjust it slightly over the coming month, but I think it's pretty close to solid.

Darin E. Jordan - NAMBA #1216

Wednesday, June 20th:

P Sport Hydro
N-1 Mono


Thursday, June 21st:

P Ltd Offshore
P Offshore


Friday, June 22nd:

N-2 Sport Hydro
P-Ltd Mono
P-Ltd OPC
P Mono


Saturday, June 23rd:

P-Ltd Hydro
P-Ltd Sport Hydro

[D. Newland]

Thanks, D! OP updated and email coming your way.

[D. Newland]

Thank you Puget Sound Fast Electrics Model Boat Club (http://psfastelectrics5.com/) for picking up P-Ltd Hydro sponsorship!

[raptor347]

So, I couldn't quite hit my target of 3 class's per day. Here's my entries:

Wed. 6/20
1/10 modern
P Sport Hydro
P Hydro
T Hydro

Thurs. 6/21
P Ltd. O/S
P O/S

Fri. 6/22
P Ltd. OPC
P Ltd. Mono
N-2 Sport Hydro
Q Hydro

Sat. 6/23
1/10 Vintage
1/8 Scale
P Ltd. Sport Hydro
P Ltd. Hydro

I'm going back to my building frenzy. The trailer is going to be stuffed to the roof!

[D. Newland]

Got it!

[Flyguy55]

N2 Mono

10th scale Modern

Q Mono

N 2 Offshore

p LTD Offshore

P LTD Mono

1/6th Crackerbox

P Mono

P Limited Hydro

1/10th Scale Vintage

1/8th Scale


P Ltd Mono

Dick Roberts

[G.Rose]

1/10 Scale Modern
P Sport Hydro
P Ltd Offshore
P Ltd Mono
P Ltd OPC
1/6 Cracker
P Ltd Sport Hydro
1/10 Scale Vintage
1/8 Scale

Gary

[D. Newland]

Got it! Holy crap...1/8th Scale already made it! Who said 1/8th scale probably won't make it?? (it was me).

[namba688]

Ted McKay #688

P Spt Hydro
P Ltd Offshore
P Offshore
P Mono
1/10 Scale Vintage

Kim McKay #1688
P Ltd Mono
1/6 Cracker
1/10 Scale Vintage

Let me know if I missed anything Dave!

[Darin Jordan]

Got it! Holy crap...1/8th Scale already made it! Who said 1/8th scale probably won't make it?? (it was me).

I don't know if he's signed up yet, but I know that Lohring is planning on running 1/8th also... ;)

[properchopper]

If everyone promises not to point and laugh, I'm in for :

P-Sport Hydro
P Ltd Offshore
P-Ltd Mono
P-Mono
LSH
Belly Dance competition

[D. Newland]

Got 'em! Ted-you missed P-Ltd Sport Hydro.

P-Sport Hydro is on Wednesday and you can run your Insane and if you want a hotter motor, we'll make it happen.

[namba688]

Got 'em! Ted-you missed P-Ltd Sport Hydro.

P-Sport Hydro is on Wednesday and you can run your Insane and if you want a hotter motor, we'll make it happen.

I knew I'd miss one. That's what happens when a gas guy tries electric!

Put me in.

Ted

[JIM MARCUM]

tony, point point point - ha ha ha!! JIM:bowdown:

[D. Newland]

Thank you members of NAMBA District 1 (http://namba-1.com/) for picking up a sponsorship!

[D. Newland]

Thank you Pat @ RC Lipos (http://rclipos.com/) for helping with our raffle!

[DPeterson]

I am working real hard on making this trip. My goal has been to go to all the NAMBA Nats and I already have missed a couple. I have got to see Legg Lake and I have got to meet in person some of the guy's that will be there. Especially Darin. I will be bringing my little hatchet so I can bury it.

Got some important questions though - I do not want to come unprepared:
1. I take it, it will be 3 heat classes?
2. 3 bouy turns or 5?
3. Start clock starts when - 30 seconds, 60 seconds,??
4. 1/6 mile course correct?
5. How far out is the course from the shore? Distance from shore to lane one?
6. Drivers stand right? Is the stand in the center of the front straight?
7. What would be your best guess as to the height of the driver stand over the course?
8. What direction does the driver stand face? East West North or South? Sun glare?
9. What is the anticipated temperature of the water at Legg Lake during June?
10. Can anybody tell me the pH and Hardeness of the water at Legg Lake?

Now the really important questions:
1. How far is the Hotel Ramada from Legg Lake?
2. How far is the Liquor store?
3. How far is the nearest establishment where scenery can be viewed? And I don't mean geographical.

It won't be long and I will have myself talked into this. :)

Doug

[LuckyDuc]

I heard that the liquor store is right next to the gay bar. You can kill two bids with one stone :-)

[DPeterson]

Gosh-darnit Sean.

You promised me you would not tell!

[properchopper]

I am working real hard on making this trip. My goal has been to go to all the NAMBA Nats and I already have missed a couple. I have got to see Legg Lake and I have got to meet in person some of the guy's that will be there. Especially Darin. I will be bringing my little hatchet so I can bury it.

Got some important questions though - I do not want to come unprepared:
1. I take it, it will be 3 heat classes?
2. 3 bouy turns or 5?
3. Start clock starts when - 30 seconds, 60 seconds,??
4. 1/6 mile course correct?
5. How far out is the course from the shore? Distance from shore to lane one?
6. Drivers stand right? Is the stand in the center of the front straight?
7. What would be your best guess as to the height of the driver stand over the course?
8. What direction does the driver stand face? East West North or South? Sun glare?
9. What is the anticipated temperature of the water at Legg Lake during June?
10. Can anybody tell me the pH and Hardeness of the water at Legg Lake?

Now the really important questions:
1. How far is the Hotel Ramada from Legg Lake?
2. How far is the Liquor store?
3. How far is the nearest establishment where scenery can be viewed? And I don't mean geographical.



It won't be long and I will have myself talked into this. :)

Doug

Doug, a quick look at the driver's stand :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVENEnlwSaY

Don't have an answer to most of your questions, but in answer to question 9, water temps have gone down since they banned peeing in the lake.

[Flyguy55]

Hi Doug
I haven't raced at Legg Lk in over 30 yrs . Its set up for gas . I believe 70 ft dia 5 bouy turns, measured 1/6th mile . Right out of the rule book offical course . You can race side by side around the turns if you can trust the guy next to you to stay in their lane .
Lots of 2 lap records set there .I'm going to the Dist 19 race March 17 - 18 just to get reaquainted . The front straight is not as close as I'd like , but plenty of room for 7 boat gas heats . I'ts always been one of the premier race courses in the country .

Dick Roberts

[properchopper]

Doug,

Here's a good vid of what the course looks like; this was a P-Ltd Sport Hydro/Soccer match. Note; plenty of water all around the course

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GecgY2Mu-Ac

[stonerracing]

I had hoped to have a nice new shiny p-spec rigger to race. Just signed up for summer school after all today. :(

However, Dave, I'll contact you tomorrow about sponsoring a class. Count me in for 1.

[D. Newland]

...
I am working real hard on making this trip. My goal has been to go to all the NAMBA Nats and I already have missed a couple. I have got to see Legg Lake and I have got to meet in person some of the guy's that will be there. Especially Darin. I will be bringing my little hatchet so I can bury it.

Got some important questions though - I do not want to come unprepared:
1. I take it, it will be 3 heat classes? 4 Rounds, 4 boats make the class
2. 3 bouy turns or 5? 5 nice, shiny, red slalom balls.
3. Start clock starts when - 30 seconds, 60 seconds,?? 30 second FE start
4. 1/6 mile course correct? Yes-but it's not a legal FE course. No records can be applied for.
5. How far out is the course from the shore? Distance from shore to lane one? My guess...60 feet?
6. Drivers stand right? Is the stand in the center of the front straight? Absolutely. It's a shaded, concrete structure.
7. What would be your best guess as to the height of the driver stand over the course? 6.5 feet above the water.
8. What direction does the driver stand face? East West North or South? Sun glare? I think Northeast...but Brian answered in another thread
9. What is the anticipated temperature of the water at Legg Lake during June? You'll know when you're thrown in it for a class win.
10. Can anybody tell me the pH and Hardeness of the water at Legg Lake? Now that's a secret.

Now the really important questions:
1. How far is the Hotel Ramada from Legg Lake? 1.2 miles
2. How far is the Liquor store? Every corner.
3. How far is the nearest establishment where scenery can be viewed? And I don't mean geographical. Hmmm...Lohan is about 12 miles away. She's clean now, too. Also the Columbian chick from Modern Family is 14.2 miles away. I'm planning on doing the Belushi ladder trick like in Animal House on Wednesday night. Who's with me?

It won't be long and I will have myself talked into this. :) The trailer is purchased.

Doug

[D. Newland]

Jay-Thanks for your support! Wish you could be there, though. Your teacher will be OK with it. I'll write a note for you.

[longballlumber]

Peterson, you could turn this into a business trip. I keep seeing that commercial about "great cheese comes from happy cows, and happy cows are in California!"

Maybe you could have a “cheese-off” inbetween heats

Later,
Ball

[DPeterson]

Ball - funny you should mention the business trip. Thats exactly what I am working on. I took on a new client that has a cheese manufacturing Plant in Tempe AZ. They want to send me out there. I am working on tieing the trip together. Gets alot of my travel expenses covered. Yes California has happy cows - they feed them that happy tobacco. But Wisconsin has happy cheese makers. Not going to tell you what we eat/smoke.

Dave - thanks for the info. However I am going to need the pH and Hardness readings as my boats are dialed in for 6.98 pH and 13.45 hardeness. :laugh:

[longballlumber]

Ball - funny you should mention the business trip. Thats exactly what I am working on. I took on a new client that has a cheese manufacturing Plant in Tempe AZ. They want to send me out there. I am working on tieing the trip together. Gets alot of my travel expenses covered. Yes California has happy cows - they feed them that happy tobacco. But Wisconsin has happy cheese makers. Not going to tell you what we eat/smoke.

Dave - thanks for the info. However I am going to need the pH and Hardness readings as my boats are dialed in for 6.98 pH and 13.45 hardeness. :laugh:

You guys crack me up! I knew you had an ulterior motive... I am looking forward to this summer, as long as Peterson isn't burnt out before June.

Good Luck, and have fun!

Later,
Ball

[RaceMechaniX]

Tyler Garrard NAMBA #639
All boats on 2.4GHz

N2 mono
P Hydro
Q mono
T Hydro

N2 Offshore
T Offshore

P-Ltd Mono
P Mono

P-Ltd Hydro
P-Ltd Sport Hydro
T mono

I may add or subtract a class depending on how many boats are built and/or batteries available.

Also are the rules for 1/6 crackerbox posted?

Tyler

[D. Newland]

Got it, T! CB rules will be posted this week.

[properchopper]

NEVER MIND, I already did this (damn memory)




I'm in for (a good spanking) :

P-Sport Hydro
P Ltd Offshore
P-Ltd Mono
P-Mono
LSH
Wet T-Shirt competition

2.4
NAMBA 678

[D. Newland]

No worries!

Banquet has been finalized at the Ramada Saturday evening. Price is $35. And, please, attend this event! It is a "must do" as it wraps up an event like this with a nice little bow. It will cap off this event beautifully as we get to award our racers, have a nice meal, maybe a few drinks and we'll see how I do on the mic. My kids think I'm funny.

[D. Newland]

We are going to add an exhibition P-Ltd Cat class on Wednesday. 6 lap sprint.

If you are interested, let me know and I'll get you loggin in!

[Darin Jordan]

We are going to add an exhibition P-Ltd Cat class on Wednesday. 6 lap sprint.

If you are interested, let me know and I'll get you loggin in!

David... Count me in! Good Call! This should be popular....

[properchopper]

Me in Too (crap, I'm up to eight classes again :unsure:) Got batteries ? :ohmy:

[RandyatBBY]

Put me down for these classes.

P Sport Hydro, P Hydro, P Ltd Cat,

N-2 Offshore, P Offshore,T Offshore,

N-2 Sport Hydro, P-Ltd OPC, T Sport Hydro,

P-Ltd Hydro, P-Ltd Sport Hydro, 1/8th Scale.

[D. Newland]

P-Ltd Cat already made it! that was, like, 6 hours.

[properchopper]

P-Ltd Cat already made it! that was, like, 6 hours.

Heck, there's one more SoCalFE guy and maybe another one in as well. Fun !!

[D. Newland]

Exhibition P-Ltd 1/6th Crackerbox rules have been added to the OP. If there are any questions, please PM me or start another thread. No discussions on this thread, please.

[DPeterson]

Crap - I got no cats. One got ran over by a car and the other just plain ran away. Got plenty of mice now. Thought about getting a dog. Hows about a P-Limited dog class?

[properchopper]

Crap - I got no cats. One got ran over by a car and the other just plain ran away. Got plenty of mice now. Thought about getting a dog. Hows about a P-Limited dog class?

:rofl:

[Darin Jordan]

Hows about a P-Limited dog class?

I'm pretty sure that mine will be a "dog"..., but I'll race it anyway... :banana:

[TheShaughnessy]

I would like to run P sport hydro, p spec hydro, LS0 (limited spec offshore?) p sport offshore, and the p limited cat class that just opened up. I'll get my namba membership taken care of ASAP, Had it last year just have to renew. I think that is about all i can run with the boats i have. Batts shouldn't be a problem.

Is there anyone that is going to have a generator i can plug into, I'll bring 100 ft of 10 gauge extension cord. Just need a few chargers, shouldn't be pulling more then 10 amps maybe 15 if I was going hard on 3 batts, but that shouldn't be necessarily. Willing to make any needed donations towards fuel.

[properchopper]

I would like to run P sport hydro, p spec hydro, LS0 (limited spec offshore?) p sport offshore, and the p limited cat class that just opened up. I'll get my namba membership taken care of ASAP, Had it last year just have to renew. I think that is about all i can run with the boats i have. Batts shouldn't be a problem.

Is there anyone that is going to have a generator i can plug into, I'll bring 100 ft of 10 gauge extension cord. Just need a few chargers, shouldn't be pulling more then 10 amps maybe 15 if I was going hard on 3 batts, but that shouldn't be necessarily. Willing to make any needed donations towards fuel.

Mike, p spec hydro is a rigger class- did you mean P-Limited Sport Hydro (LSH)?


p sport offshore isn't a class - did you mean P-Offshore ?

[properchopper]

If Mark and Kim agree, I'll be entering Buddy in the P-Ltd Dog class.

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[DPeterson]

Tony
Buddy looks great. But I think he may be over the length limit. Maybe if you cut back his... :)

Darin
Good one. Running my old Graupner Cat crossed my mind. Pretty sure it would be a dog also.

[chris reed]

Dave I would like to enter in the P speck limited sport hydro on freq.72 chris reed

[D. Newland]

Mike-clarify your classes per Tony's post. Feel free to send me an email if needed. We'll have power for you.

Chris-Got it and an email is coming with a "Welcome Letter" attachment that has details about registration.

I've got a pair for P-Ltd Dog. Jack on the right goes into hunt mode at the mere blip of an FE throttle and will dive in after boats. No joke.
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[TheShaughnessy]

Mike, p spec hydro is a rigger class- did you mean P-Limited Sport Hydro (LSH)?


p sport offshore isn't a class - did you mean P-Offshore ?. Yes LSH and p offshore

[D. Newland]

Mike-Got it. Is your last name Shaughnessy...?? I'll correct it if it's wrong. I'm off on vacation for a few days. Also PM me your email address, cell # and NAMBA # when you re-apply.

I have you for:

P-Sport Hydro
P-Ltd Cat
P-Ltd Offshore
P-Offshore
P-Ltd Sport Hydro (LSH)

[stonerracing]

Dave,

Check for class sponsorship is in the mail. Should see it Monday or maybe sooner.

[D. Newland]

Jay-got it! Thank you for your support. And, yes...if you get the design right on your project, our raffle would welcome it!

[D. Newland]

Thank you Andy Brown from CMDRacing (http://www.cmdracing.com/updated/main.htm) for helping sponsor a class and support our raffle! He has some of the best props in the business.

[D. Newland]

Thank you Harry @ RSF Speedmaster/Rossi Sales (http://rossisales.com/) for supporting our raffle!

[Todd Fleury]

Sent payment for LSH and 1/8th scale and bought my flights!

[CHIEFY_44]

Hi Dave, I would like to enter P sport hydro, P Ltd cat (sprint), P Ltd offshore, P mono, P Ltd sport hydro, I may enter 2 more classes I will let you know for def asap.
Stephen Williamson,
Namba #1254
Freq 2.4
Phone # 3107020780
email is CHIEFY_44@hotmail.co.uk
If you need more info pls ring or email me thxs.

[Ken Haines]

Hi Dave,
Here is the small list of classes I plan to race this year.
Jason Sims and I are definite after we spoke yesterday.
Let me know by email where to send the check.
I have a lot of boats to get ready...I better get busy !
Can't wait to see everyone again,
Thanks,
Ken Haines :bounce:

Wednesday, June 20th:
N-2 Mono
P Sport Hydro
Q Mono
T Hydro

Thursday, June 21st:
N-2 Offshore
P Ltd Offshore
P Offshore
Q Offshore
T Offshore

Friday, June 22nd:
N-2 Sport Hydro
P-Ltd Mono
P-Ltd OPC
P Mono
Q Hydro

Saturday, June 23rd:
N-2 Hydro
P-Ltd Hydro
P-Ltd Sport Hydro
T Mono
Q Sport Hydro

[DPeterson]

Well after being 99% committed and begining to make arrangements to attend the Nats, I run into a home challenge that is going to cause me to reschedule mu time and redirect my attention.

Came home on Wednesday 4/4 to fire in my shop and shed. I did a post in the Off topic to show pics and explain.

I was feeling real good about this years Nats. I had confidence in my boats and my driving and was looking forward to seeing what I could do against the best.

Good luck to you all. I will will regroup and be looking to race you another time. Doug

[TheShaughnessy]

I was planning to use the same boat for pspec offshore and p offshore. Am I going to have time between heats to do it? I have a spare hull but it needs lots of tlc and it has no hardware. In the same situation with the hydro.

[CHIEFY_44]

The hydro classes are different days so you will be ok there, as to the offshore classes it will be hard going but with enuff chargers and bats it could be done maybe.:-/

[D. Newland]

Mike-Technically you can race the P-Ltd Offshore boat as-is in P-Offshore. But, it's a task I wouldn't even think the top FE guys could pull off with any amount of success. There will be a 2 lap difference each round between a good P-Ltd boat and full P boat. 8 laps for the day will separate the top P-Ltd boat and the P boat. Plus, there is a great chance you'll be back-to-back at least 1 time. Maybe 2 or 3. That means, you pull your P-ltd boat out of the water, go to the pits, put in fresh batteries and go race it again. You've got 5 minutes to do that turn-around if you're back-to-back.

My suggestion-Give your full attention to P-Ltd. It will be a highly competitive class and it typically comes down to less than 1 lap at the end of the day between 1st and 2nd. However-it's your call.

Thanks for signing up! Welcome letters will be emailed to you on Monday.

Doug-I'm going to go ahead and believe that you will make so much progress on your shop in the next 30 days that you'll actually feel comfortable committing to the Nat's again. You'll have this overwhelming feeling that your brain will need a break sometime around the 3rd week in June. Sorry again about the loss!

Ken-What's wrong? Only 4 classes on Wednesday? You'll be bored.

[properchopper]

Mike-Technically you can race the P-Ltd Offshore boat as-is in P-Offshore. But, it's a task I wouldn't even think the top FE guys could pull off with any amount of success. There will be a 2 lap difference each round between a good P-Ltd boat and full P boat. 8 laps for the day will separate the top P-Ltd boat and the P boat. Plus, there is a great chance you'll be back-to-back at least 1 time. Maybe 2 or 3. That means, you pull your P-ltd boat out of the water, go to the pits, put in fresh batteries and go race it again. You've got 5 minutes to do that turn-around if you're back-to-back.

My suggestion-Give your full attention to P-Ltd. It will be a highly competitive class and it typically comes down to less than 1 lap at the end of the day between 1st and 2nd. However-it's your call.

Thanks for signing up! Welcome letters will be emailed to you on Monday.

Doug-I'm going to go ahead and believe that you will make so much progress on your shop in the next 30 days that you'll actually feel comfortable committing to the Nat's again. You'll have this overwhelming feeling that your brain will need a break sometime around the 3rd week in June. Sorry again about the loss!Ken-What's wrong? Only 4 classes on Wednesday? You'll be bored.

I talked to Doug this morning and reminded him of our planned cultural field trip to the Hermosa Beach Female Tap-Dancing Trombone Players Pole Dancers Review. He was not tempted, but who knows ?

[TheShaughnessy]

'll be right there with you. Plan on running a Mystic or Miss Geico in Offshore, and will likely use it for dual-duty in both P-Ltd and P Offshore (with a motor swap, of course...)

that is a quote from Darin in another thread. This is why I thought I'd have time between heats to put a larger motor in for P.

I would like to propose that P offshore be switched with Q offshore on Thursday the 21st to allow my self and any other racer that so chooses time to do a motor swap. I really don't want to have to get hardware for another boat, I have 5 good sets of 4s2p, but wouldn't mind having more and not having to set up a completely different hull would save me enough money to get some more batts.

[properchopper]

'll be right there with you. Plan on running a Mystic or Miss Geico in Offshore, and will likely use it for dual-duty in both P-Ltd and P Offshore (with a motor swap, of course...)

that is a quote from Darin in another thread. This is why I thought I'd have time between heats to put a larger motor in for P.

I would like to propose that P offshore be switched with Q offshore on Thursday the 21st to allow my self and any other racer that so chooses time to do a motor swap. I really don't want to have to get hardware for another boat, I have 5 good sets of 4s2p, but wouldn't mind having more and not having to set up a completely different hull would save me enough money to get some more batts.

Mike,

It's a ballbuster for the organizers to schedule classes that work for the majority. Lots goes into it and it's hard to change once set in cement. It's a cross we all have to bear if we want to run multiple classes.

[Darin Jordan]

'll be right there with you. Plan on running a Mystic or Miss Geico in Offshore, and will likely use it for dual-duty in both P-Ltd and P Offshore (with a motor swap, of course...)

that is a quote from Darin in another thread. This is why I thought I'd have time between heats to put a larger motor in for P.



Yeah... I wasn't meaning that I'd swap motors in the same boat... I was going to bring one setup for one class, and one for the other, and I don't really expect to be highly competitive in the Open P classes...

[TheShaughnessy]

Ok well i can probably swap power plants in 5 min. I understand the difficulties of scheduling the heats to best suit the majority of racers, but since newland and Hains will be the only ones affected as of yet and since they are racing p spec offshore, p off shore and q offshore i didn't think it would affect much of anything. Just a thought and understand if it isn't a possibility, but it seems feasible.

I don't really expect to be highly competitive in any of the classes, but that isn't gonna stop me from trying. It gets boring only running one class, but a break between classes would be nice.

[D. Newland]

Post #1 has been edited to include race day schedules. Post #2 has the National event information.

Please get signed up! Do so right here, then I will send you a Welcome Letter with more information about the race and when to send your race fees.

Remember, May 19th is the paid entry cut off date to finalize the classes that will run at the event.

We are still looking for class sponsorships @ $50 per class. As many of you know, it takes quite a bit of funding to run an event like this. So, if you, your club, your district or your business are in a position to help, it would be greatly appreciated.

[Darin Jordan]

Ok well i can probably swap power plants in 5 min. I understand the difficulties of scheduling the heats to best suit the majority of racers, but since newland and Hains will be the only ones affected as of yet and since they are racing p spec offshore, p off shore and q offshore i didn't think it would affect much of anything. Just a thought and understand if it isn't a possibility, but it seems feasible.

I don't really expect to be highly competitive in any of the classes, but that isn't gonna stop me from trying. It gets boring only running one class, but a break between classes would be nice.

I didn't go back up the thread to see what you were signed up for, but note also that the Miss G/Mystics will be perfect contenders for the now viable "exhibition" class, P-Ltd Cat... :D

[D. Newland]

...It gets boring only running one class, but a break between classes would be nice.

Mike-I will take personal responsibility to make sure your day is not boring! If you know what PWN'd means, you just got PWN'd. :laugh:

[TheShaughnessy]

I didn't go back up the thread to see what you were signed up for, but note also that the Miss G/Mystics will be perfect contenders for the now viable "exhibition" class, P-Ltd Cat... :D

Jumped on that one a few post back. I'll be running the class.

[knightmoto]

Ok guys, where do I sign up to get into this upcoming meet at L.L? A.K.A. F.E. Nats

[CHIEFY_44]

Ok guys, where do I sign up to get into this upcoming meet at L.L? A.K.A. F.E. Nats
Right here knightmoto put down what class or classes you would like to run in, Dave will see it and reply to you, make sure u pm him ur email and phone number.

[D. Newland]

Got your PM. Responded.

[RaceMechaniX]

Dave,

Can you remove me from P-ltd mono and place me in T sport hydro please.

Thx

[properchopper]

So Tyler, may I put in my application for your pit/spot/driving instruction services (when you're not otherwise occupied and available) ? :Praying::Praying:

[RaceMechaniX]

Yes in exchange for my usual counseling needs.

[properchopper]

Yes in exchange for my usual counseling needs.

No problemo:wink:

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[D. Newland]

Will do, Tyler.

[PatrickM]

T.....

SD State?...... So-cal social persona and Hessian as well? Damn, you continue to impress me!:tongue:

Love,
Pat

[RandyatBBY]

T.....

SD State?...... So-cal social persona and Hessian as well? Damn, you continue to impress me!:tongue:

Love,
Pat

Relax and breath threw your nose, the gitters from the DMWB and the Nomads will soon pass.:tongue:

[PatrickM]

No jitters involved Randy.... are you going to represent the DMWB so that you, Tony and myself can make 1/6th scale Jersey Skiff a class? :tt2:

Pat

[RandyatBBY]

Yup allways has been. It is mostly Will and me now. Joe came by. Wish, I still had Dans help.

[knightmoto]

test

[knightmoto]

Ahhh, Hello dave, ok P mono class and p offshore, still trying to figure out how to navigate this site, Ya gotta brake this green horn feeling...

[D. Newland]

Just added some more fun to the event. Mark Grim will be putting up the 2 lap equipment for Sunday!

So, if anyone wants to hang around 1 more day, they can run the 2 lap course.

Any questions, let me know.

[D. Newland]

1/10th Scale Modern has been moved to Friday. In hindsight, I should have given more consideration to scale-only drivers regarding the class schedule and thanks to Jim Bickford for planting the seed, so to speak. This way, Modern runs Friday, and Vintage and 1/8th runs on Saturday. Those involved have already been contacted personally, and anyone that was on the fence to sign up for the scale classes, please do so!

[Darin Jordan]

David,

Silly question I suppose, but just thought I'd check:

1) Are tents provided, or do we bring our own?

2) Are tables being provided?

3) Will we be tearing everything down at the end of each day, or can we leave things relatively setup??

[D. Newland]

For those driving, I am working on the assumption that they will be self-sufficient with shelter, tables and power. If anything is needed, just ask...we'll provide it.

Ted McKay is staying on site each night, the park is locked and also police patrolled. Typically at the gas events, tables/tents stay up, and equipment gets locked in pit trailers.

[Darin Jordan]

For those driving, I am working on the assumption that they will be self-sufficient with shelter, tables and power. If anything is needed, just ask...we'll provide it.

Ted McKay is staying on site each night, the park is locked and also police patrolled. Typically at the gas events, tables/tents stay up, and equipment gets locked in pit trailers.

Thanks, David... I'll plan on bringing all my stuff. Was just trying to plain on what I had to cram into the car I'm going to rent for the trip! ;)

[Bullwink]

Dave,

Sign me up for P-Ltd Sport Hydro.

Kerry

[JIM MARCUM]

David, Section 28, page 3 of the NAMBA Rule book shows both an "M" & "Offset" course. Exactly what will the Nationals Offshore FE class course look like? JIM:confused1:

[D. Newland]

It will be the offset course and the plan at this point is to put the offset pin off of turn 3, just like in the diagram.

[JIM MARCUM]

That helps David. A few more questions, please:
1. Is the course going to be 1/10th mile, 1/8th or 1/6th mile?
2. How many laps will we be running?
3. Is the start going to be "Flying Clock" or "LeMans?
4. If a boat sinks, when do I do my retrieval diving thing?:sinking-guy:

THX, JIM

[D. Newland]

Check out Brian's 2 lap video on the main forum that Tony posted. 2-Lap record post. That's the course. 1/6th mi legal gas course. 6 lap sprint heats and Offshore is a timed 4 minute race. All on a flying clock start.

And, if a boat sinks, you'll be doing your thing at the close of racing for that day.

[Darin Jordan]

That helps David. A few more questions, please:
1. Is the course going to be 1/10th mile, 1/8th or 1/6th mile?
2. How many laps will we be running?
3. Is the start going to be "Flying Clock" or "LeMans?
4. If a boat sinks, when do I do my retrieval diving thing?:sinking-guy:

THX, JIM

Jim,

I know, I know!! ;)

1 -> 1/6th Mile Course
2 -> 1-Mile heats for sprint classes, 4-Minute Timed heats for Offshore
3 -> Ummm... That one I'm not sure of... David??

LeMans Starts are fun, but seem to be inherently unfair. That being said, they are FUN! :D

[Darin Jordan]

Check out Brian's 2 lap video on the main forum that Tony posted. 2-Lap record post. That's the course. 1/6th mi legal gas course. 6 lap sprint heats and Offshore is a timed 4 minute race. All on a flying clock start.

And, if a boat sinks, you'll be doing your thing at the close of racing for that day.

Damn... He's FAST on the "<ENTER>" key! ;)

[line6]

Dave. Full mill I presume.


Jason Sims

[D. Newland]

Yes. You getting ready to sign up?

[line6]

Ya man, I will pm u my defendant classes in a few. So u can get it on the board. Might add some?



Jason Sims

[JIM MARCUM]

Jim,

I know, I know!! ;)

1 -> 1/6th Mile Course
2 -> 1-Mile heats for sprint classes, 4-Minute Timed heats for Offshore
3 -> Ummm... That one I'm not sure of... David??

LeMans Starts are fun, but seem to be inherently unfair. That being said, they are FUN! :D

Thanks Darin. Reason for the question - I was trying to figure out what the average SPEED is. Can you help my math challenged self out? JIM:doh:

[D. Newland]

Race fees are starting to show up. Thanks, guys! OP has been updated and those that are paid will be in green.

[RaceMechaniX]

Dave,

If we enter and pay for a class, but the class does not make it do we get reinbursed?

Tyler

[Darin Jordan]

Dave,

If we enter and pay for a class, but the class does not make it do we get reinbursed?

Tyler

Hell no! That goes for paying for the beer to drink during the time-slot when the class WOULD have been held!! ;)

[D. Newland]

T-Absolutely.

[properchopper]

Hell no! That goes for paying for the beer to drink during the time-slot when the class WOULD have been held!! ;)

Correction : Unused entry fees will be diverted to SoCal FE's judging expenses for the Driver's Wet Jockey Shorts Competition.

[D. Newland]

The "no refund" deadline has been set for May 19th, but we will be flexible with this date as we know things happen as hulls start to get tuned for this event.

All money will be immediately refunded for a class that doesn't "make".

What we do ask is that by May 19th, your class list is firm. And paid. In some cases, other racers are counting on your entry. If you need more time, please contact me.

Also, there will be a point in time when the "no refund" date is firm as well. It's necessary for proper financial planning of an event like this, and the date will be communicated in advance.

[RandyatBBY]

I am trying to get Mark Miller a new guy in the DMWB to come to the race. One of the classes I am helping him to possably run is N1 Mono. I am waiting for his answer. I am trying to help the class run. (Bill and Darin)

[D. Newland]

Sounds good, Randy. I also have been emailing with Bestpitch...says he's trying to get down for the event, but I don't know if that was just to spectate or race.

[RandyatBBY]

We have been racing the P LTD classes in the district. He has two riggers a one I made and one that Brian made possably to race them. He likes to help with the running of the races.

[RaceMechaniX]

Just a reminder for you guys with P-Ltd hydro's you can also run in P-hydro too. I would love to see a couple double entries so we can make sure there is a class.

Tyler

[RandyatBBY]

I am also trying to help Tommy Levesi to make it to the race he will help some of the classes I have boats for but can not race becuse of too many classes on one day for me to run. I think I will have help Help from Tommy will run N2 Hydro and N2 mono for me. Wilmer will be in N2 Hydro, N2 Mono, N1 Mono and some other classes

[Namba328]

I am also trying to help Tommy Levesi to make it to the race he will help some of the classes I have boats for but can not race becuse of too many classes on one day for me to run. I think I will have help Help from Tommy will run N2 Hydro and N2 mono for me. Wilmer will be in N2 Hydro, N2 Mono, N1 Mono and some other classes
Randy i may bring the sport down for lsh. Depends on how things go and if i get to come.

[BILL OXIDEAN]

I'll have a hand in a lot of classes as usual.
Don't have a full inventory on my boats but I can promise

Crackerbox
N-1 mono
N-2 mono
N-2 offshore
N-2 Hydro
N-2 sport Hydro
P-spec Everything
S/T Offshore
P-Hydro
P-sport Hydro

Unfortunately I don't have my full inventory yet:

Just assume I'm racing EVERYTHING :smile:

[D. Newland]

Got some big hitters signed up now! the OP is changing almost daily with entries, so keep tabs on it. Tyler- P-Hydro made it with sign ups.

Wil, your money is due May 18th. Everyone else, the 19th.

Thank you Dougie Twaits and Rumrunner Hobbies (http://www.rumrunnerhobbies.com) for picking up 2 class sponsorships!

[MarkF]

Hi Dave,
sign me up for:

P - mono
P - offshore
Q - mono
Q - offshore
P - LMT sport hydro
P - LMT mono
P - LMT mono offshore.
Mark

[Darin Jordan]

Hi Dave,
sign me up for:

P - mono
P - offshore
Q - mono
Q - offshore
P - LMT hydro
P - LMT mono
P - LMT mono offshore.
Mark

Mark... don't forget that they added a P-Ltd Cat heat racing class as well... ;)

[properchopper]

Hi Dave,
sign me up for:

P - mono
P - offshore
Q - mono
Q - offshore
P - LMT hydro
P - LMT mono
P - LMT mono offshore.
Mark

Mark, that would be P-Ltd Sport Hydro, right ?

[RaceMechaniX]

Enter him in both that we can make P hydro too!

[MarkF]

Right and fixed.
Mark

[MarkF]

I need a different boat for P sport hydro. I already have a P sport sitting at the bottom of the lake. I will try to add more classes as boats present themselves to me from friends of mine.

Mark

[namba688]

David,
Please enter Leonard Feeback in Classic 1/10 scale on #2 and LSH on #2.
He will pay at Legg next week including Sponsership.

Ted

[D. Newland]

Got it.

Everyone-if you haven't done so already, go over the 1st 2 posts and make sure you are entered in the right classes and that I have your names spelled correctly.

[D. Newland]

Signups are looking fantastic! Mr Offshore Award is going to be interesting...both Haines and Pags have signed up for all 5 offshore classes. I may have to ask the Power Company to rig them their own power line. I put the over/under for the winner at 185 laps.

There's only a few classes that don't have the magic 4. If you want those classes to make, you better start shaking some trees!

[Darin Jordan]

David,

I have my entry papers filled out and will have them in the mail tomorrow...

[Darin Jordan]

David,

Dropped my entries and check in the mail this morning. There are some adjustments in the classes I'm signing up for. Won't confuse the issue by posting here and will let you update when you receive the entry.

If one of the classes I'm signed up for doesn't make it, I may switch the entry to another class, but we'll see what happens.

Thanks for managing all of this. I know it's a LOT of work! I'll do whatever I can do when I get there to help out with the setup and running of the event...

[Darin Jordan]

David,

I need to ask for some clarification and figured I'd do it here so others could benefit from the answer. My question is in regards to keeping P-Ltd motors legal, and/or MAKING them legal again.

1) Is it legal to remove the larger black heat-shrink from around the existing wires? The UL-1 motors, for example, the black piece doesn't even stay in the can (keeps sliding out). Can it be removed?

2) If I have a motor that has had the original factory wire covering/heat-shrink damaged, can I replace it, or is the motor junk for this event??

3) Can I put new heat shrink over the top of the factory wire covering/heat-shrink?


In regards to making a motor "legal":

4) I have a couple of older BJ26 motors that had the short motor leads cut back short, and I needed to extend them back out again. The original wires come out of the can the required 5mm (at least that), and I extended them from there and had to re-shrink. Are these legal?

5) I suppose this goes with #1... When making a motor "legal" again, does this require putting a piece of shrink over all three wires together?? (Black piece at the endbell??).



Concerning KV Checking:

6) When KV Checking, Are the "known samples" for each motor type, or are we just looking to make sure nothing is over the UL-1 Motors KV??

Thanks.

Not trying to cause a stir, but I need to understand this stuff prior to making the trip so I can make sure and NOT cause a stir when I get there... ;)

[D. Newland]

David,

I need to ask for some clarification and figured I'd do it here so others could benefit from the answer. My question is in regards to keeping P-Ltd motors legal, and/or MAKING them legal again.

1) Is it legal to remove the larger black heat-shrink from around the existing wires? The UL-1 motors, for example, the black piece doesn't even stay in the can (keeps sliding out). Can it be removed?

It can be removed, as long as it's replaced.

2) If I have a motor that has had the original factory wire covering/heat-shrink damaged, can I replace it, or is the motor junk for this event??

Original shrink can be cut off and replaced, but keep in mind that you need to replace it with shrink that is similar to what is on there (i.e. thickness and heat rating...don't worry about color).

3) Can I put new heat shrink over the top of the factory wire covering/heat-shrink?

Only from the end of the wire to 5 mm outside from the endbell. From 5 mm outside the endbell to inside the endbell, it needs to remain stock, or put back in stock form. Consider this area the Holy Land of P-Ltd Motors.


In regards to making a motor "legal":

4) I have a couple of older BJ26 motors that had the short motor leads cut back short, and I needed to extend them back out again. The original wires come out of the can the required 5mm (at least that), and I extended them from there and had to re-shrink. Are these legal?

I recommend not running these motors. My interpretation of "to be run as shipped from the manufacturer" includes keeping the OE wire length intact...and not adding wire.

5) I suppose this goes with #1... When making a motor "legal" again, does this require putting a piece of shrink over all three wires together?? (Black piece at the endbell??).

If it had it that way when it was shipped to you, then yes.

Concerning KV Checking:

6) When KV Checking, Are the "known samples" for each motor type, or are we just looking to make sure nothing is over the UL-1 Motors KV??

With the exception of the 1/10th scale classes, the sample will consist of just UL-1 motors to set a Kv ceiling.

Thanks.

Not trying to cause a stir, but I need to understand this stuff prior to making the trip so I can make sure and NOT cause a stir when I get there... ;)


To all: I will have SOME shrink product on site to help get P-Ltd motors "back to stock". If you need help with this, please see me during open water.

This topic is also not open for discussion. We have a rule in place (good, bad or indifferent) that states that these motors are to be run "as shipped from the manufacturer" with the exception of 3 allowable modifications. Any connectors, adding water cooling and grinding a flat spot. My attempt to answer Darin's questions comes from my authority, as Contest Director, to clear up any rule interpretations for the 2012 Nationals, at the same time try to allow some flexibility to get motors legally running again with some clarification on how to "unmodify" modifications.

If you have any questions, please let me know. But, again, I'm not up for an "opinion" discussion. I have more important things to do with my time right now, one of which is putting on the best FE Nat's NAMBA has ever seen.

[Darin Jordan]

If you have any questions, please let me know. But, again, I'm not up for an "opinion" discussion. I have more important things to do with my time right now, one of which is putting on the best FE Nat's NAMBA has ever seen.

Perfect answers, David. Thank you for taking that time to clarify.

[D. Newland]

Thank you Eagletree Systems (http://www.eagletreesystems.com/) for adding to our raffle and thank you Delta Force (http://www.deltaforce-hk.com/df/index.html) for picking up a class sponsorship!

[RandyatBBY]

OK I am helping Tommy Levesy and Mark Miller sign up.


Tommy Levesy will be in these classes.
N2 Mono
N1 Mono
N2 Hydro
P Ltd Sport Hydro



Mark Miller will be in these classes
N1 mono
P Ltd offshore
P Ltd Mono
1/8 scale

[TheShaughnessy]

I'm gonna need the back to stock service... I added some after the stock stuff started tearing

[D. Newland]

Signup cutoff is being extended until tonight, because I was out of town all weekend. Randy-I emailed you about Tommy and Mark. They need to contact me directly. Email, phone or post here.

[Darin Jordan]

Just a note to those racing at the Nats...

Per the NAMBA rules, you are required to have your NAMBA ID number on each boat that enters the water. You can find the rule in Section 8.A.1 of the NAMBA Rule book:



A. GENERAL SAFETY REGULATIONS
1. NAMBA members must have their NAMBA numbers on their boats and their backs
for easy identification. Minimum number sizes will be 1-1/2” on the back and 1” on
the boat, except where noted in specific class rules.


I could have sworn that there was wording somewhere that indicated that the number on the boat was to be 1/4" minimum, but I can't find it now.

Anyhow, just thought people should be aware. It's the first rule in the Safety section, so it's going to be hard to explain why your boat doesn't have the appropriate numbers on it... ;)

[properchopper]

Section #28 - Page #8 - Revised 5/15/11 (Sport Hydro Rules)

vii) the boat must have the driver's NAMBA membership number displayed above the at-rest waterline on the hull in numbers a minimum of 1/4" tall in a manner visible to an onlooker.


Section #28 Page #9 Revised 5/15/11 (Offshore Rules)

iv) All boats must have numbers printed or painted on the hulls above the waterline. They can either be fictitious race numbers or NAMBA membership numbers. They should be clearly visible in relation to the size of the hull as they would be on a full-size race boat.

[Darin Jordan]

Section #28 - Page #8 - Revised 5/15/11 (Sport Hydro Rules)

vii) the boat must have the driver's NAMBA membership number displayed above the at-rest waterline on the hull in numbers a minimum of 1/4" tall in a manner visible to an onlooker.


Section #28 Page #9 Revised 5/15/11 (Offshore Rules)

iv) All boats must have numbers printed or painted on the hulls above the waterline. They can either be fictitious race numbers or NAMBA membership numbers. They should be clearly visible in relation to the size of the hull as they would be on a full-size race boat.

Good, Tony... I knew it was there somewhere.

Now, what it appears is that for Sport Hydros, 1/4" numbers are fine... but it would appear that, for all else, 1" would be required?

All my boats have printed decals with my number on them in 1/4" or so, but I'm thinking I'll be carrying a Sharpie and some white electrical tape, just in case...

[Darin Jordan]

So... I'm thinking that today we ought to find out (When David has the time, of course) what the final entry list is and which classes are on the schedule...

Looking forward to knowing, as this will help to direct my final push for prepping over the next three weeks! Still a LOT of work to do...

[D. Newland]

Final class list has been updated. The following classes have been cut:

T Hydro

N-1 Mono

Jersey Skiff

Q Sport

Refunds will be sent to those that have paid for these classes (Garrard, Jordan, Buaas). I'll wait a few days to see if you want to make changes before sending it out.

June 1st is the firm "no refund" cut off date. Final race fees will be tabulated on this date, according to the sign ups on the first 2 posts of this thread. Any drops after this date will not be refunded, with the exception of non-attendance due to an emergency.

Sign ups are still open for those classes that have made it.


Just a few random comments regarding some questions I have fielded the past few weeks (and the post above):

Not sure what brought up the questions about NAMBA #'s on boats...but, yes, boats need to be identified. Don't get hung up on the precise measurement of the numbers.

Legg Lake is a 1/6th mile course and we will be using the full mill. More information will be shared at the Drivers Meeting.

We will be using a computer-aided lap counter that your pitman controls. It is a trigger button that is pushed at the finish of each legal lap. It keeps track of lap and heat times. Remember this: EACH LEGAL LAP. More will be discussed at the Drivers Meeting.

Lunch and drinks will be provided for a nominal fee each race day. Tuesday's Open Water: Racers are on their own. Kim Grim will be doing 2 days worth of her famous race cooking on Thursday and Friday, and Jeff Michaud will be doing something scrumptious on Saturday.

Please email me if you require power, a table, chair, or an EZ UP. I will send out a specific email to those racers signed up about this as well. FYI: The pit area is fully shaded with pine trees and the Drivers Stand is shaded as well. I am working on the assumption that those driving are self-sufficient in this regard, unless they have notified me of their specific needs.

If there are any questions, please let me know! I was at Legg Lake last weekend at a district race and the course and site are in fantastic shape.

[Darin Jordan]

Final class list has been updated. The following classes have been cut:

T Hydro

N-1 Mono

Jersey Skiff

Q Sport

Refunds will be sent to those that have paid for these classes (Garrard, Jordan, Buaas). I'll wait a few days to see if you want to make changes before sending it out.

David,

Excellent. Thanks for the update. Please don't worry about sending me a refund... I may sign up for a different class later in the week, and otherwise, don't mind donating to the event.

Thank You,

[BILL OXIDEAN]

We will be using a computer-aided lap counter that your pitman controls. It is a trigger button that is pushed at the finish of each legal lap. It keeps track of lap and heat times.

Really?? Now that's SERIOUSLY trick..

[D. Newland]

It's been a busy day! Thanks to Benjamin @ Fightercat Racing (http://fightercatracing.com/) for sponsoring P-Ltd Cat, and also sponsoring one of Kim Grim's famous Model Boat Race Lunches!

Also, thanks to our CD, Lenny Blake from Rumracing Products (http://www.rumracingproducts.com/) for sponsoring the second Kim Grim famous Model Boat Race lunch!

[Darin Jordan]

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[D. Newland]

For those classes that made it by the skin of their teeth, 3 boats are required to enter the water on race day in order for the class to run.

At this point in time, any drops that pull down a class to 2 entrants, the class will need to be scratched and the remaining racers will be refunded their race fees.

[Todd Fleury]

OK guys,
Sorry to bring this up, but will there be a gentleman's agreement for 1/8th scale this year at nationals? Or is it run with what you want? Was asked to bring this up.

[G.Rose]

Not sure what you are asking. Please be specific

[Todd Fleury]

I was asking about the gentleman's agreement regarding motor size. I know you can have up to 12000mah I think off the top of my head.

[Darin Jordan]

Not sure what you are asking. Please be specific

I would guess he's asking about the "Gentleman's Agreement" that has been used in the past for 1/8th scale competition by some clubs that limits the motor sizes to 1527 Neus, certain sized Lehner's, etc...

Just guessing here, but I haven't heard anything about such an agreement and I believe that the class is being run under straight-forward NAMBA rules... Just my hunch...

[Todd Fleury]

Darin,
That would be the one. I was told to ask by Randy Naylor since we are completing my boat today! From what I understand, you are really going to like this one.

[Darin Jordan]

Darin,
That would be the one. I was told to ask by Randy Naylor since we are completing my boat today! From what I understand, you are really going to like this one.

"Oh-Boy"... :cool2: :buttrock:

[G.Rose]

I guess David will make the rule if it is not already WRITTEN. David, "SO LET IT BE WRITTEN SO LET IT BE DONE"

[D. Newland]

1/8th scale rules are in the book, and that's how we're running it.

[Todd Fleury]

Thanks David. Just wanted to be sure.
1/8th scale power - "T"

[D. Newland]

That is correct, and "T" includes 5S to 10S Lipo voltages, up to 12,000 mAh capacity.

[RaceMechaniX]

Dave,

For my dropped T-Hydro class can move my entry to Q Offshore.

Thx,

Tyler

[D. Newland]

got it!

[MarkF]

Dave can you add me to N2 mono and T offshore.
Mark

[BILL OXIDEAN]

This race looks tasty! I know who's behind a lot of the entries in difernent classes and I like it!
My favorite thing is gonna be give me your prop that so and so gave you and see if you can lash me : )


I can't wait until our motors are spec legal..

I'm entering this race in all relaxation : )

Not gonna speculate on the outcome, but just know that no one intimidates me.
I know most every driver's weakness and quite frankly I'm impressed..

I hope Randy makes it, he throws a whole different realm of speed out there..

[Darin Jordan]

David,

Please add me to N2-Mono... I'll be there in "also-run" status, but I'll be there... Maybe I'll mount a Go-Pro on the bow and act as the official camera boat!

[T.S.Davis]

Wilmer, as much smack as you talk you better win every class you enter.

[D. Newland]

Wilmer, I have no idea what you just said, but I'm glad that you're jazzed about the event! Me, too.

No need to clarify...we'll do it in person in a week. And, I'm holding you to your "relaxation" comment.

[JimClark]

Is there no website for the nats?

[BILL OXIDEAN]

Wilmer, I have no idea what you just said, but I'm glad that you're jazzed about the event! Me, too.

No need to clarify...we'll do it in person in a week. And, I'm holding you to your "relaxation" comment.

David, you deciphered that correct I'm Stoked to be there! Best part is that since I'll be there a week my cousins from South Central LA and Long Beach get to come see me!
They've heard so many great things about how I've been treated down there at Legg Lake they wanna' come see it in action!!!

This is gonna' be a FUN race!!! :banana:

[Darin Jordan]

They've heard so many great things about how I've been treated down there at Legg Lake they wanna' come see it in action!!!

Bill... You are kind of setting yourself up here... The meaning behind these comments isn't lost on people. Let's not turn this into a sink-hole of bitter feelings... Please...

[BILL OXIDEAN]

Bill... You are kind of setting yourself up here... The meaning behind these comments isn't lost on people. Let's not turn this into a sink-hole of bitter feelings... Please...

LoL! You must be misinterpreting me.
My cousins from Long Beach came and saw me at RCX and LOVED watching the boats.
I told them I would be racing at Legg, and they want to see it in action..

[PatrickM]

Here's the class results from the Nats:


Wednesday
N-2 Mono
1st Dave Newland 1600
2nd Jason Sims 1300
3rd Dougie Twaits 1250

P Sport Hydro
1st Jason Sims 1600
2nd Jim Osborne 1325
3rd Ken Haines 950

P Hydro
1st Dougie Twaits 1225
2nd Dave Newland 1169
3rd Mike Paganelli 1000

P-Ltd Cat
1st Brian Buaas 1500
2nd Tony Heller 1400
3rd Ted Mckay 1225

Q Mono
1st Dave Newland 1200
2nd Ken Haines 700
3rd Tyler Garrard 675

Thursday
N-2 Offshore
1st Jason Sims 40 1/4
2nd Dave Newland 40
3rd Dougie Twaits 38 3/4

P-Ltd Offshore
1st Jason Sims 40
2nd Lenny Blake 39 3/4
3rd Jim Osborne 39 1/2

P Offshore
1st Dave Newland 45
2nd Mike Paganelli 43
3rd Ted Mckay 43

Q Offshore
1st Dave Newland 44 1/4
2nd Tyler Garrard 42
3rd Mike Paganelli 38

T Offshore
1st Tyler Garrard 44 1/2
2nd Mike Paganelli 33 1/2
3rd Ken Haines 18 1/4

Friday
N-2 Sport Hydro
1st Jason Sims 1100
2nd Ken Haines 950
3rd Wilmer Oxidean 894

P-Ltd Mono
1st Dave Newland 1600
2nd Ken Haines 1225
3rd Darin Jordan 1150

P-Ltd OPC
1st Kylie Morana 1250
2nd Brian Buaas 1100
3rd Darin Jordan 969

1/6 Crackerbox
1st Dick Roberts 994
2nd Kim McKay 725
3rd Wilmer Oxidean 700

P Mono
1st Mike Paganelli 1369
2nd Dave Newland 1225
3rd Ken Haines 1150

Q Hydro
1st Mike Paganelli 1500
2nd Ken Haines 575
3rd Dougie Twaits 425

T Sport Hydro
1st Brian Buaas 1100
2nd Tyler Garrard 725
3rd Randy Naylor 75

1/10 Modern Hydro
1st Ted Mckay 1138
2nd Ron Daum 850
3rd Dick Roberts 850

Saturday
N-2 Hydro
1st Darin Jordan 1300
2nd Ken Haines 1225
3rd Tom Lavescy 275

P-Ltd Hydro
1st Dave Newland 1325
2nd Jason Sims 1300
3rd Dougie Twaits 1296

P-Ltd Sport
1st Jason Sims 1500
2nd Tyler Garrard 1325
3rd Brian Buaas 1225

1/10 Vintage Hydro
1st Leonard Feeback 1325
2nd Ron Daum 1300
3rd Ted McKay 650

T Mono
1st Dave Newland 1400
2nd Ken Haines 1125
3rd Mark Frerriera 775

1/8 Scale Hydro
1st Brian Buaas 1600
2nd Dick Roberts 750
3rd Gary Rose 350

[PatrickM]

Concourse
1st John Morana Oh Boy Oberto
2nd Dick Roberts Blue Chip
3rd Ron Daum Wildroot Charlie


High Points Champion Jason Sims


Team Points Champions

Team AZ 2602 points
Dave Newland
Jim Osborne
Ted McKay

Team Wave Blasters 2169 points
Ken Haines
Jason Sims
Wilmer Oxidean

Team ?? #1 2101 points
Mike Paganelli
Dougie Twaits
John Morana

Team ?? #2 1784 points
Brian Buaas
Darin Jordan
Tyler Garrard

[Steven Vaccaro]

I heard Darin ran this class with not your typical hull!

N-2 Hydro 1st Darin Jordan 1300

[PatrickM]

I heard Darin ran this class with not your typical hull!

N-2 Hydro 1st Darin Jordan 1300
Yep.... with a cat!

[Doug Smock]

Congratulations fellas!!!:thumbup1:

[Grimracer]

24 classes.. holycow

What was the boat and driver count?

Grim

[D. Newland]

I'm still getting caught up at work, but I'll feed some info about our event throughout the week.

First off, hats off to Jason Sims for taking High Points again this year. If he wasn't winning the class, he was typically second. His consistency, and a top performing LSH Whip is what got him past my point total. We were literally within a few points of each other at the end of each day.

Team Points went to The Scottsdale Model Boaters, with me, Jim Osborne and Ted McKay making up the team. Both Jim and Ted come from the nitro/gas world and have aquired a few FE boats during the past year or so and they are right up there with the best of us. In fact, Jim only signed up for 4 classes and we had to pick 3 of them for Team Points. He finished strong in all 4 of his classes.

N-2 Mono started off the event and it was dominated by the Delta Force 26's. Legg Lake has great water and these boats really sang that high RPM tune with every heat.

P Sport Hydro-It was hard to get past Jason's Whip with full P Power, but congratulations to Jim Osborne for taking 2nd place with a UL-1 powered Insane hull.

P Hydro. What can I say. Twaits in action. Pure and simple.

P-Ltd Cat was a very competitive class as well and congratulations to Buaas for almost sweeping it, and for Tony collecting 1400 points as well. Ted McKay dusted off his box-stock Geico (ok-not stock prop), complete with inline rudder, and gave chase to the field. He pulled off 3rd place, too.

Q Mono was a great class and I thought I shot myself in the foot in the first round as my boat barely left the pits. Didn't tighten the collet. But, I was able to win the next 3 rounds to take the win.

N-2 Offshore. Talk about evenly tuned boats. Sims and I were only 1/4 lap apart at the end of the 4th round, with Sims taking the win.

P-Ltd Offshore. The top 4 drivers were only separated by 1 lap. Jason took the win, but congratulations to Lenny Blake for taking 2nd place with a newly built Titan 29. Also, Osborne was right there in 3rd place with a Cyberstorm.

P-Offshore. My Titan was running very well all weekend. I finished with 45 laps total over 4 rounds, and that was the top lap count for any offshore class that ran that day. Mike Pags and Ted McKay were tied going into the 4th round and were also in the same heat. Ted and I spilled that secret to Pags on the drivers stand because he wasn't sure of the standings, and those two did battle for the next 4 minutes. Mike got the start, and never let his lead over Ted go. They were never more than 6 or so boat lengths apart for the entire race, with Pags being the lead boat at the end of the race, and we used that to break the tie as they did finish on the same exact lap count.

One fantastic moment during the 3rd round was between me, Ted and Mike Shaunnessy. All three of us started and rounded turn 1 and it seemed that I had lane 1, Ted had lane 2, and Mike had lane 1 1/2. All three of us blasted down the 400 foot backstretch and all 3 of us knew that Shaunnessy's green cat was between me and Ted somewhere, but nobody could see it...including Mike. I actually thought he backed off or that I would pull away from him. Nope. All 3 boats maintained the most perfect lane direction and we just couldn't see his cat behind my boat and rooster for what seemed like 4 seconds. I got scared and dived for the offshore pin early, cutting it, and then exposing Mike's cat so he could them steer it around the pin!

Q Offshore. Pags has had a good run winning Q Offshore for many, many years, but I de-throned him this year. He's pissed. Not really. But kind of.

T Offshore. Mike had a driveline explode in his cat, tearing a section of the hull and all. I thought he was done. After all, he was running all 5 classes that day. Nope, somehow he managed to find time to rebuild it and get the cat back on the water. However, the lost laps cost him and Tyler had a very good running hull. Ken was running a new full on 10S build and it still needs a little more setup time.

N-2 Sport. More Jason Sims and his Whiplash in action. It's a combo that's really hard to beat.

P-Ltd Mono. I braved the smaller hull choice with this class, using a Delta Force 26, because Legg Lake lays down nicely. Congratluations to Darin for taking 3rd place with the RTR Impulse 31, too.

OPC-The highlight of the event, hands down. We had all chunked heat before the 4th round, except for Kylie Morana. Her consistent driving helped her pull off 4 very strong finishes for the over all win. On the last lap of the 4th round, she was getting chased by some lunatic driving a purple Cobra and it was a drag race to the finish, with Kylie edging out the Cobra by 2 boat lengths. She got to take the celabratory swim in Legg Lake!

Crackerbox. Congratulations to Dick Roberts. Also, Kim McKay took 2nd place at her very first FE Nationals!

P Mono. Pags was so upset at me for taking Q Offshore, that his main goal in life that day was to keep P Mono away from me. I've never won P Mono and I thought this was my year. I finished the first 3 rounds with a perfect 1200 points, and Mike wasn't far behind. Going into the 4th round, I had a commanding lead after 3 laps, but got caught up in some kind of cross wake or something and as my boat rounded turn 1 it took flight, submarined, then came up upside down, all I could hear was Pags yelling in the pits! He got me. But I know he's losing sleep over the thought of the Q Offshore award hanging on my wall.

Q Hydro. It was all Pags. 1500 points. I will have one of these next year, too.

T Sport Hydro. Buaas has a great running T boat and dominated this class and 1/8th Scale as well.

1/10th Modern. Congratulations to Ted McKay for his first FE title! Yes-he got to swim in Legg Lake, too.

N-2 Hydro. Darin said to me early in the morning that he was going to throw in his cat just to get some racing in. Turns out he scored 1300 points and got the class win!

P-Ltd Hydro. I think I will frame the heat sheet that had me, Buaas, Grim, Twaits, Stark and Morana. The amount of talent on the drivers stand was impressive. 29 points separated 1st through 3rd place.

P-LSH. Again, the Sims/whiplash combo is a tough one to crack! As always, this was the most attended class of the entire event.

1/10th Vintage went to Leonard Feeback, who has gone nearly 40 years since his last National Championship! Congratulations!

T Mono. I don't remember what Tyler was running here, but I think it was his 6S Q boat. That's what I was running, and Mark and Ken had monster 10S monos on the water. Ken had the boat to beat, but he had a charging issue during round 2 and he needed to pull his boat into the infield for a DNF. I locked down 1400 points for the win.

1/8th Scale. Buaas ripped off a 1600 pt day with his Executone. It's a very good running hull.

SoCal FE and the Scottsdale Model Boaters offer our special thanks to Lenny Blake for calling the race, Ted McKay for pulling his travel trailer from Az to provide pit security, Jim Osborne for being my go-to guy for just about everything, Tracy Osborne for handling the sign ups, raffle and post-race data for the NAMBA website, Pat McDonald for meticulously keeping the heat sheets and scoring updated, revised and posted, Mark Grim for handling the Whittier Narrows/Legg Lake Park items, keeping the course set, doing some retrieval boat motor tuning and providing me a socket set to change my truck battery mid-race on Saturday, Kim Grim for busting her butt on Sunday getting the Drivers Stand cleaned, then spending 2 days cooking us a most fabulous lunch, Jeff Michaud for helping us with lunch on Saturday and for having a happy hour party/taco feed at his home on Thursday, and Mike Pags for throwing down his credit card for the alcohol at the banquet.

And lastly, a special thank you to my roommate, Dougie Twaits, for hanging in there with a positive attitude for this event, knowing that 84 pounds of his FE gear is (still) lost at UPS. He had enough gear and loaner equipment to get boats on the water, but it's just not the same as if he had his own equipment.

[PatrickM]

24 classes.. holycow

What was the boat and driver count?

Grim35 racers not counting the 4 no-shows, with 212 boats. Some boats pulled double and triple duty running more than 1 class.

[Jim Osborne]

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[Jim Osborne]

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[Jim Osborne]

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[Jim Osborne]

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[Jeff]

How did old fireball Haines do?

[Fluid]

How did old fireball Haines do? See post #216...




















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[Doug Smock]

Great pics! Thanks for posting!
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[ron1950]

does kim or ted mckay ever visit this fourm? they have a cracker box that runs well and i need some help with one..... just need a few questions answered thanks

[namba688]

does kim or ted mckay ever visit this fourm? they have a cracker box that runs well and i need some help with one..... just need a few questions answered thanks
This Ted. Let me know what you need.

[ron1950]

pm sent ted thanks