Dissapointed with Motley crew

[davey]

Well just got my Motley crew...A few of us went to the pond to do some running...well some of us .the person who bought the crew ,,,just got to watch...because I put mine in the water,,,went about 30 feet ,,,motor reved up and boat came a scretching halt,,,,,,..after retreiving the boat ...one look and ...guess .................... no prop shaft or nothing,,,pretty @%$^ sad,,,,someone shoulg learn how to solder....I lost everything..... $30.00 prop etc........

Who can I call to give them a piece of my mind...I've never had a boat break so fast !!!!!!!!!!!!!!.....very poor build,,,dissapointed

[Rumdog]

So, it's a poor build because the flex was poorly soldered? I'm sure they will take care of you, man.

I lost a VERY nice prop the other day and it was due to a worn prop nut. Doesn't mean the build is junk.

[davey]

also the motor dosen't looked aligned propley...once I run it for any length of time...I'm possitive there will be an issue here too...,the hull looks entirely scratched...maybe thats a new look ...not sure on that one.?

[Rumdog]

There is a thread about the alignment.
Post up a pic of the scratches if you could.

[davey]

ok heres a couples pics...taken with iphone,,,may not be to great...the whole boat is like this....pretty sad...:(

[davey]

http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff437/davey661/scratches2.jpg

[davey]

http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff437/davey661/scratches.jpg

[davey]

this is a hurting boat

[martin]

Im afraid to say all the boats that come out of China irrispective of make have to really have every thing removed checked, sealed, tightened, re bonded etc. Dosnt help with a badly soldered shaft though. I see so many club members buy a boat & literaly do nothing but fit radio & lipo & then run it usually with dire results in some way whether it be some sort of failure or water leaking every where through water lines leaking or hardware bolts not sealed in any way. I dont think it would take much more effect for the manufacturers of all boats to get these boats built to a better standard first time. Martin.

[davey]

I did go over this boat...I greased and tightened the shaft...realigned the motor...it looked ok...except for the part where someone sanded it with 80 grit.....I'm 45 years old and take extreme care of all my stuff,,,the boat look ok!!...I normally build my boats and I'm glad I brought my gaser.or I'd be watching everyone today...my gaser never broke ...hmmmmm...oh ya I built....I did buy the 34.5 toyport catamaran from Steve as well as the rest of the boat parts,,,and when its ready for water ...it will fly...I am sorry I wasted 350.00,,the motley crew,,,will be a work in progress...never ending,,,,but hay !!!its all fun ,,,and most of all,,,its only money..................

[ron1950]

one good thing about it is right now u can sell it for almost what u have in it i am sure....

[dana]

So, what was the last successful rtr put out? Any of them? I build my own these days

[davey]

the only great RTR's are called DIY's....but when I'm done with Crew,,,she will be worthy and ready to rock like Vince

[davey]

don't tell anyone ...but my Sparton went further on the first run.....bahahahahah

[Brushless55]

So, what was the last successful rtr put out? Any of them? I build my own these days

I don't think I've read one negative thing about the SV27R :thumbup1:

[martin]

Ive found on most rtr boats you not only have to check the obvious like tightening couplings or rudder rods are tight but i allways remove every piece of hardware incase transome might need strengthening but i found they very rarelly seal any bolts or loctite any thing at all, On past experiences you simply cant trust them to do any of these things. I even go through all the things bonded inside the hull like battery trays,servo mounts, stuffing tubes & give them a good pull as ive had battery trays very easily pull out with very little pressure & also very little glue on them as well. Ive seen & had to many of these things simply fall apart on the first run or two just with vibration. Martin.

[LarrysDrifter]

Never a problem with an out of the box UL1.

[davey]

I've already ordered the new cable from Steve,,,bushing and a prop...thats how I deal with customer service.....

[LarrysDrifter]

Could have gotten replacements for free if you call them and not be hot headed. Maybe a new bare hull too without sanding marks.

[davey]

ohhhhh...I am calling...theres no holiday for americans on Monday is there

[BLAZE WON]

davey' my boat did the exact thing yours did. when i called hobby services they couldnt have been nicer.they are replacing everything including a prop that they dont sell. just dont yell and scream youll only screw yourself. remember, they didnt make the boat but i believe they will do anything possible to make it right. again be nice. the beauty of their customer service is that when they answer the phone the guy speaks and understands english.

[Rumdog]

I don't think I've read one negative thing about the SV27R :thumbup1:

Except that there is no transom doubler and it splits on almost all of them..

[dana]

This is true rum, but at least it's nothing that kept the boat from running. Lately the rtr's have had problems that are more severe and need replacing or upgrades. At least the sv27r can be run all day with the cracked transom

[Brushless55]

Except that there is no transom doubler and it splits on almost all of them..

That's the first I've heard on the new 27R

[Grimracer]

Davey,

Sorry about the issue with the shaft. I can tell you we are looking into what might be going on.

Here is what I suspect.. We have a measuring system “a gauge” if you will that determines the quality of the flex shaft. I’m not sure but I suspect some of the shafts might not have met that standard “OR” I need to reevaluate that standard. So far its been working for the other boats so im not sure..

To be dead straight here is what happens.. If the cable does not meet the standard, it will “buckle and shrink” for lack of a better set of words under the solder joint. The cable “pulls” away from the solder and… it comes apart.

One thing that is very tricky about china cables is the lay is just not as tight as we have in the states. Also “or at least” so far, I have not been able to find good stainless cable in a price point that works for us… Its all a balance for sure.

But.. I know those words don’t help much and for sure are not going to bring up that prop from Davey” Jones Locker.

Just be sure we are listening and do what we can to chase this down so our issue that become your issue does not become someone else’s.. yep.. issue..


Again.. sorry for the trouble and remember please always contact Hobby Services “listed in the manual” First”.. that’s your best “First” recourse.

Take care

Grimracer

[skellyo]

Maybe Steve can offer a direct replacement cable the way Kintec does for some of the RTR boats...might save a lost prop...

You mean this one?
http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/proddetail.php?prod=ose-cable-mcrew&cat=156

[davey]

thanx Mike for the feed back...the lady ,,,Lisa M was very helpfull and she was sending new parts,,,she listed them off , but didn't mention a bushing,,,is there one in the strut ? or does come with the shaft..?

[Grimracer]

Davey

Lisa is great.. always fun to chat with! I only get to see her a few times a year but she is aways positive!

Chances are the bushing is in the stuffing tube that is in the strut.

Take a look at the back of the strut.. we do our bushings just like my race boats. Its a brass bushing that has a flange on it.

Take a look at the attached pics. In the back of the strut it looks like just a chunk of brass tubing BUT.. you can see when you pull it out its the bushing.

Take a close look at the pictures.

Grim

[davey]

http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff437/davey661/bushing.jpg

I believe the bushing is watching the submarine races beside my prop with a bag of popcorn

[Grimracer]

yep.. she is in the LOCKER!

Call Lisa and have her get you a new bushing.. Let here know we chatted about it and its GONE GONE GONE like that old dog you grew up with!

Grim

[davey]

I just e-mailed her ,,,hopes its not late

[Jeff Wohlt]

My guess is it broke do to a very wobbly shaft and flex joint not being true. Which beat around in there until it broke the bushing.

[Grimracer]

Jeff,

yea its a bummer when the darn things dont run true but in our findings the lack of alignment has less to do with the falure then the very cable itsself..

Of cource soldering and or "teaching" somebody to solder can be tricky.. My FE boats.. ALL OF THEM.. have our cables in them.. I just check em over real close and re-solder if in need. Even my S spec rigger (raptor)

take care man

Grim

[Jeff Wohlt]

I hear ya, Mike.

I think most should just remove the cable and check for true and lube them up. I would also put them in a clamp and pull on the cable hard to see if she lets go before I dump a prop on the bottom.

Good soldering is easy to some but many it will not hold up because of the method. I now silver braze all mine like Hughey does. I even had one of those let go which tells me it was my error. I still like the loctite on many. Easy, clean and holds great.

Always going to have a few issues when dealing with overseas vendors. AQ can lay the law down to them for finish but cables are a different story.

Looks like a fun rig!

[martin]

I hear ya, Mike.

I think most should just remove the cable and check for true and lube them up. I would also put them in a clamp and pull on the cable hard to see if she lets go before I dump a prop on the bottom.

Good soldering is easy to some but many it will not hold up because of the method. I now silver braze all mine like Hughey does. I even had one of those let go which tells me it was my error. I still like the loctite on many. Easy, clean and holds great.

Always going to have a few issues when dealing with overseas vendors. AQ can lay the law down to them for finish but cables are a different story.

Looks like a fun rig!
Jeff do you use Loctite 603 or 638 on flexes & do you drill them deep into the stub shaft. Thanks Martin.

[shannon87]

hi all im glad i waited to see what happened and its a bummer pity coz its such a nice looking boat but since i have to get one from america its gunna cost me twice in shipping if somethings wrong which is a good possibility thats the only thing putting me off.

Because i have not found one for sale in aus i have found the geico but there asking 500 bucks so its cheaper getting it from you guys for 320 and 50 for shipping its hard when you want both pretty much equally.

Maybe the MC a little bit more but with some problems its the only thing putting me off but if i can find someone who can get one then do some fixes before he sends it to me such as a new shaft 5.5 bullets and a safety loop as its going to be a race boat.

But if i cant its probably going to get a geico less mucking about gotta live being a newbie i just dont really wanna pay shipping twice and waiting extra weeks lol anyways hope it all works out for you guys and a nice job otherwise i cant wait for a vid not only that near 50 on a prop change sounds unreal.

[Shooter]

Great support Mike! I'm considering adding a Crue to the fleet over here.

[Jeff Wohlt]

Martin...neither of those numbers. Yes i lathe drill all my stubs much deeper.

[PIGSTI13]

I just picked up my new MC on Friday... Saturday took it out for it's maiden run and guess what!?!?? It went no further than 20 feet! Recovered the boat and found my GR 42-55 prop gone along with the brass bushing. The cable was broke off just inside the tube! Wow.. Bummer.... So far I'm Liking my gasser!

[PIGSTI13]

Oh, I forgot to mention... My buddy who has one loves it! I just need to get mine up and running. No regrets so far!

[Greg]

Received my MC Thursday just gone (Aussie time), thanks Steven for the fantastic service as usual. I havent had a chance to check it over fully as i flew out of country on vacation on Friday. I did however note the rough sandpaper finish but I'm ok with that, no big deal. I've also put myself on the watch list for OSE's replacement cable. This boat makes a great addition to my SV27 and UL1. Hopefully i can get hold of a replacement cable in time for my return from vacation in 3 weeks.