Decided to get a spartan

[roadrashracing]

After drivning both of my boats for a few packs I decided to get a spartaon mostly because of the size. I've been running on the local river a lot, and even on a calm day its kind of choppy. I picked it from the hobby shop and went right to the water, I had a charged set of batteries and had fun. It was a blast to drive and can't wait to get it back out this weekend.

[wilsta67]

After drivning both of my boats for a few packs I decided to get a spartaon mostly because of the size. I've been running on the local river a lot, and even on a calm day its kind of choppy. I picked it from the hobby shop and went right to the water, I had a charged set of batteries and had fun. It was a blast to drive and can't wait to get it back out this weekend.

il be the first to say it lol
dont expect the fun to last with this boat before you have to send it back or pour money into it.:sorry:

[bbosncali]

15-20 runs max and that's pushing it

[roadrashracing]

I know the esc failures, I don't plan on running more than 2s lipos in the thing. I guess time will tell.

[bbosncali]

Then I hope your happy with 30mph because that's all she'll do

[wilsta67]

I know the esc failures, I don't plan on running more than 2s lipos in the thing. I guess time will tell.
there burning up with the stock batteries lol

[Checkmateguy01]

I know the esc failures, I don't plan on running more than 2s lipos in the thing. I guess time will tell.

How'd she run on the 4s? I plan on running it just on 4s also (and the 7 cell Nimh's that i have, DTX5000's, ocassionally). I have nothing but choppy water to contend with, 35mph with a decent prop is ok with me!

[roadrashracing]

How'd she run on the 4s? I plan on running it just on 4s also (and the 7 cell Nimh's that i have, DTX5000's, ocassionally). I have nothing but choppy water to contend with, 35mph with a decent prop is ok with me!

have not tried 4s yet, but thats kind of how I feel.

[Make-a-Wake]

If you ran it with two 2s lipos in series, then you have tried 4s...........

[roadrashracing]

I have not tried lipo at all.

[roadrashracing]

what are the mods thats should be done with out replacing stuff? How would a 40x52/3 prop work?

[roadrashracing]

The above prop did not work well with the stock batteries. I have not had an issuce with cooling, but I did change all the line, instead of drilling out the rudder, I nabbed one from another boat, it has a lot bigger inlet.

[Brushless55]

have not tried 4s yet, but thats kind of how I feel.

4s with stock prop will get you about 30mph :huh:

[roadrashracing]

Well not to impressed with this boat, I tried five sets of battereis including lipos and could not get over 26 mph everything stock, even tried another set of lipos and could not get any faster, the hull cracked in the back on the top and I did not even hit anything. The batterises where coming off warm, around 150 after 5 min, motor and esc are really cool, never got above 80 deg. no bind and shaft is greased, lipos where even warm.

[Brushless55]

:popcorn2:

[bbosncali]

Well not to impressed with this boat, I tried five sets of battereis including lipos and could not get over 26 mph everything stock, even tried another set of lipos and could not get any faster, the hull cracked in the back on the top and I did not even hit anything. The batterises where coming off warm, around 150 after 5 min, motor and esc are really cool, never got above 80 deg. no bind and shaft is greased, lipos where even warm.

Wow that suck.. I know my buddies hit 31mph on 4s then was hitting around 43~45mph played around with the strut and bateeries hit 48.1 then 50.7 then blew either the esc for the 2nd time or motor. Those boats like a little chop they seem to go faster with chop but its a lot of frustrating trual and error settings to get it right. Also his was all stock so it is possible but the electronics just don't hold up to high voltage as claimed. Call traxxas they will issue you a new hull just sucks you gotta wait ffor it

[roadrashracing]

Hull is not bad nothing a little epoxy, would fix it, it just the point its a new boat, how do you think a proboat brushless system would work? I guess I'll just try What is the best thing to change to the stock setup?

[Diesel6401]

Hull is not bad nothing a little epoxy, would fix it, it just the point its a new boat, how do you think a proboat brushless system would work? I guess I'll just try What is the best thing to change to the stock setup?

It wouldn't. Hull is simply too big for a 36-56 size can.

[roadrashracing]

well I'm in the boat now, unless I wan tto take a huge loss, it can't hurt nothing I really just want to see now.

[Diesel6401]

well I'm in the boat now, unless I wan tto take a huge loss, it can't hurt nothing I really just want to see now.

See how the PB motor/esc work? :confused2:

[Brushless55]

Hull is not bad nothing a little epoxy, would fix it, it just the point its a new boat, how do you think a proboat brushless system would work? I guess I'll just try What is the best thing to change to the stock setup?

I would not! :huh:

[roadrashracing]

the proboat is a 1500 and the traxxas is 1600 and both are close in weight?

[Brushless55]

the proboat is a 1500 and the traxxas is 1600 and both are close in weight?

bro, the PB motor is much smaller than the VXL
the PB is considered a S can and the VXL is a XL can :Peace_Sign:

the PB motor hands down is a much better built motor vs the VXL motor though
I would not put the stress on the PB motor by putting it in this big hull :olleyes:

but there is a chance it would outperform the traxxas motor when running it on 4s

[Brushless55]

you need a motor that is better built than the VXL motor and of the same size or bigger
that's why the CC1520 is such a good motor for this hull

[roadrashracing]

How would that motor run with say 7 cells or 4s, I really don't want to get new battereis, I'm sure I can get some more speed with setup or prop just don't know how.

[Diesel6401]

the proboat is a 1500 and the traxxas is 1600 and both are close in weight?


How would that motor run with say 7 cells or 4s, I really don't want to get new battereis, I'm sure I can get some more speed with setup or prop just don't know how.

MMMM not so much. Like BL55 said ones a 3656 can the other a XL 3674 can the extra rotor size means a lot. To be honest with a 3674 motor (the vxl motor) is actually already kinda small for the hull and 2 pole (which leads to most of the issues), plus the PB motor is a little less kv. So your putting a smaller motor with less kv and gonna run it on the same voltage. The results are gonna be veerrrrrrry slow. The PB is actually A MUCH MUCH better motor then the vxl motor, just not the right size for the job. A 3674 motor CAN work great in the hull. It just has a be a decent motor like the leopard 4 pole 3674s with low 1500-1600 kv (torque/amp reasons).

[Brushless55]

it would be killer D if PB made a XL version of there motor :banana:

[Diesel6401]

it would be killer D if PB made a XL version of there motor :banana:

That would be sick. I would hate to see the price though, you ever see the price on a freaking Stiletto motor... :ThumbsDown01:

Imagine a XL UL-1 motor :w00t:

[roadrashracing]

I guess is there anyway to get more speed out of stock form? I ran a 3 blade grim racer prop and it was slower. Does strut and and battery placement play that much in a speed factor?

[Brushless55]

That would be sick. I would hate to see the price though, you ever see the price on a freaking Stiletto motor... :ThumbsDown01:

Imagine a XL UL-1 motor :w00t:

yeah, that Stiletto motor is damn high priced...
oh man, a XL UL-1 motor could be used in a 40size Hydro :banana:


I guess is there anyway to get more speed out of stock form? I ran a 3 blade grim racer prop and it was slower. Does strut and and battery placement play that much in a speed factor?

Are you still running the stock motor and esc?
if so, 30mph is about max on 4s with the stock prop
you can run a little bigger prop on 4s and get upper 30's
and on 6s your only going to get mid low to mid 40's

[roadrashracing]

boat was running good, battereis coming off warm, but the rx lost bind, and will not reconnect.

[roadrashracing]

I am trying a proboat cooling jacket, it was lose so I siliconed around it.

[dana]

:doh:

[Brushless55]

:doh:

:lol:

[spartanonfire]

boat was running good, battereis coming off warm, but the rx lost bind, and will not reconnect.


Yeah, I had that happen after my first use. Traxxas can talk you through reconnecting them, but they will not address the issue of why it lost bind in the first place.

[roadrashracing]

I had a servo go bad, traxxas sent me the nice 2075 servo as a replacement.:rockon2:

[trevorla]

I upgraded mine to that one also.I found a watery sludge in side my 2056? after it stopped working