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Shaun78
04-01-2011, 08:38 AM
Is it a good choice or TOO much power? Will it fit with no mods?

LarrysDrifter
04-01-2011, 08:57 AM
Too much.

Brushless55
04-01-2011, 02:50 PM
the CC1717 does fit, a little snug with the water jacket
almost the same kv as the CC1520 1600kv

wilsta67
04-01-2011, 03:30 PM
im fairly sure the shaft will need to be shortened and the collet will need to be drilled out to fit the 6mm shaft the stock motor has a 5mm shaft.
so not a direct fit.

LarrysDrifter
04-01-2011, 04:57 PM
The 1717 has a 5mm shaft.

Diesel6401
04-01-2011, 05:24 PM
The 1580kv car version has 5mm shaft
The 1500kv air version has 6mm shaft

Brushless55
04-01-2011, 06:51 PM
im fairly sure the shaft will need to be shortened and the collet will need to be drilled out to fit the 6mm shaft the stock motor has a 5mm shaft.
so not a direct fit.

:lol:


The 1580kv car version has 5mm shaft
The 1500kv air version has 6mm shaft

YES, and I have two of the air motors and thinking I may try them in a twin something :confused2:

Diesel6401
04-01-2011, 07:59 PM
YES, and I have two of the air motors and thinking I may try them in a twin something :confused2:

Here's something I have been working on. I wanted to use the car verison with a waterjacket on my vanquish hull but quickly found out jackets are very hard to find right now, so I decided to air cool a 1717 car verison.

I removed the rear endbell and drilled cooling holes into the endbell, i replaced the stock CC endbell screws with leopard ones (i like them better, easier to install and remove) I then drilled holes in the front cap of the motor. I made a gasket around the endbell and installed a 12v brushless 40x40x20 computer fan that runs off of a 3s 2200 3c lipo. I attached the fan to the motor and the fan will draw heat away from the motor. I then modded the stock motor mount and allowed a gap between the motor and the motor mount to allow air to be allowed to be pulled threw the motor. I will be using a sr3300t rx with telemetry so I can get live motor temps on my dx3s radio. Haven't tried it yet but hell it's worth a try. If it doesn't work I slap a different motor into it and consider it a $70 learning lesson. So with that being said, a twin 1717 air cooled would be sick! JMO

Here's the thread on everything more in detail: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1405388&page=7

Diesel6401
04-01-2011, 08:05 PM
Final pic:

CHUD
04-01-2011, 08:18 PM
Final pic:

NICE// D //NICE:popcorn2:

Brushless55
04-01-2011, 08:28 PM
Here's something I have been working on. I wanted to use the car verison with a waterjacket on my vanquish hull but quickly found out jackets are very hard to find right now, so I decided to air cool a 1717 car verison.

I removed the rear endbell and drilled cooling holes into the endbell, i replaced the stock CC endbell screws with leopard ones (i like them better, easier to install and remove) I then drilled holes in the front cap of the motor. I made a gasket around the endbell and installed a 12v brushless 40x40x20 computer fan that runs off of a 3s 2200 3c lipo. I attached the fan to the motor and the fan will draw heat away from the motor. I then modded the stock motor mount and allowed a gap between the motor and the motor mount to allow air to be allowed to be pulled threw the motor. I will be using a sr3300t rx with telemetry so I can get live motor temps on my dx3s radio. Haven't tried it yet but hell it's worth a try. If it doesn't work I slap a different motor into it and consider it a $70 learning lesson. So with that being said, a twin 1717 air cooled would be sick! JMO

Here's the thread on everything more in detail: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1405388&page=7

Very cool idea D!:rockon2:

I'm thinking of trying water injection on a outboard setup :huh:
let the can fill with a constant flow of cool water

wilsta67
04-01-2011, 11:49 PM
Too much.

NEVER TO MUCH:thumbup:

Brushless55
04-01-2011, 11:50 PM
NEVER TO MUCH:thumbup:

should be just about perfect!:rockon2:

wilsta67
04-01-2011, 11:53 PM
:lol:



YES, and I have two of the air motors and thinking I may try them in a twin something :confused2:
he never said which one he was asking about i assumed it was the aircraft as you cant buy the car one anymore, and they have the aircraft motors on sale.:hug1:

Make-a-Wake
04-02-2011, 12:55 AM
he never said which one he was asking about i assumed it was the aircraft as you cant buy the car one anymore, and they have the aircraft motors on sale.:hug1:

Load up on the 1580kv car version here.............

http://www.kershawdesigns.com/

dag-nabit
04-02-2011, 08:55 AM
Load up on the 1580kv car version here.............

http://www.kershawdesigns.com/

Looks like they have the Leopard 4082 1500kv in stock as well.

Kevin

mavdriver
04-09-2011, 01:34 AM
Thanks Kevin I `ve been trying to get this motor for a while I just order and paid for a leopard 4082 / 1500 from kershaw , now just need to wait for it to get here , so i can play with my Spartan . :Praying:

mavdriver
04-09-2011, 09:55 AM
the CC1717 does fit, a little snug with the water jacket
almost the same kv as the CC1520 1600kv

Brushless I got the air CC1717 1500 KV what size prop are you running on yours ? Im also got a T180 , 40c 6s 5000 lipos that i willl be using . :help:

Brushless55
04-09-2011, 10:35 AM
Brushless I got the air CC1717 1500 KV what size prop are you running on yours ? Im also got a T180 , 40c 6s 5000 lipos that i willl be using . :help:

with that motor I would start with a 45mm prop and work your way up to 50mm
and it looks like your going to run 6s2p 10,000mah
lots of amps man :rockon2:
good job!

mavdriver
04-09-2011, 10:43 AM
I meant two 3s 5000 in series :doh: oh well i might go with two 6s in parallel but i would need a bigger esc like a hydra 240 or swordfish :laugh:

Brushless55
04-09-2011, 10:46 AM
I meant two 3s 5000 in series :doh: oh well i might go with two 6s in parallel but i would need a bigger esc like a hydra 240 or swordfish :laugh:

Oh ok, so two 3s 5000mah 40c in series..

running parallel has nothing to do with needing a bigger esc :Peace_Sign:

mavdriver
04-09-2011, 10:52 AM
Got it was thinking if i go bigger prop :biggrin:

Brushless55
04-09-2011, 11:31 AM
Go can go upto a 50mm prop with this motor on with two 6s 6000mah 40c packs if you want on that esc
But do run a external bec os some sort just for more insurance on the esc..

mavdriver
04-09-2011, 11:33 AM
Sounds good will run external bec .

Diesel6401
04-09-2011, 01:33 PM
with that motor I would start with a 45mm prop and work your way up to 50mm


Do you think Torque roll would be an issue with that size prop?

Brushless55
04-09-2011, 01:36 PM
Do you think Torque roll would be an issue with that size prop?

not much at all with a 45mm but getting to 50mm there could be some?

mavdriver
04-09-2011, 01:45 PM
Looks like the hampton 1717 waterjacket doesnt fit correctly on the CC1717 air motor way to loose maybe it needs bigger O rings i also notice the air motor has the each side of can flat not completely round :confused1: is the car motor has fins that are round around the motor ?

Brushless55
04-09-2011, 01:54 PM
yeah, the air motor is made for the T-Rex 600
and needs to fit in the chassis

mavdriver
04-09-2011, 01:56 PM
so my guess would be is that i need fatter O rings if i want to use the water jacket .

Brushless55
04-09-2011, 02:01 PM
yes, give it a shot :thumbup1: